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2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 11-07-2013 15:19

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It's great to be in Europe and able to watch the whole match. Been a great match so far, mostly dominated by bowlers until Agar came out - breaking all kinds of records.It's great to be in Europe and able to watch the whole match.

Been a great match so far, mostly dominated by bowlers until Agar came out - breaking all kinds of records.

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Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 26-08-2013 03:46

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Not much you can do about the sunset time to be fair. weather was fine (today)

tosspot wrote:

Again, Australia make the game exciting and it's ruined by England's shit weather.

Not much you can do about the sunset time to be fair. weather was fine (today)

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 26-08-2013 07:30

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To bad the rule for extending a test match by a day, if weather conditions prevent more than a days play in the first 5 hasn't been past. It (in my own opinion anyway) would a good addition to the laws of the game, teams wouldn't have to dangle the carrot quite so much to get a result in weather affected games. Though most test these days do finish inside 4 days.To bad the rule for extending a test match by a day, if weather conditions prevent more than a days play in the first 5 hasn't been past. It (in my own opinion anyway) would a good addition to the laws of the game, teams wouldn't have to dangle the carrot quite so much to get a result in weather affected games.

Though most test these days do finish inside 4 days.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 26-08-2013 22:03

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In Australia, the extra time is played in the morning. England always have it at the end of the day. What's the point of 7 hours daylight before the match if you are playing into darkness? The sunset time is part of the weather.

mosmosmos wrote:

Not much you can do about the sunset time to be fair. weather was fine (today)

In Australia, the extra time is played in the morning.

England always have it at the end of the day.

What's the point of 7 hours daylight before the match if you are playing into darkness? The sunset time is part of the weather.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By madmonk - 27-08-2013 00:33

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We have more of a problem with dew earlier in the morning - the domestic one-day finals were notorious for years as being decided by the team winning the toss inserting the other team and getting several early wickets when the pitch had some juice.We have more of a problem with dew earlier in the morning - the domestic one-day finals were notorious for years as being decided by the team winning the toss inserting the other team and getting several early wickets when the pitch had some juice.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 27-08-2013 18:19

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Every test was won by (or dominated by) the toss winning team. Don't know how those pitches compared to normal, but they weren't test quality pitches. The commentators seemed to dislike them as well.

madmonk wrote:

We have more of a problem with dew earlier in the morning - the domestic one-day finals were notorious for years as being decided by the team winning the toss inserting the other team and getting several early wickets when the pitch had some juice.

Every test was won by (or dominated by) the toss winning team. Don't know how those pitches compared to normal, but they weren't test quality pitches. The commentators seemed to dislike them as well.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By madmonk - 28-08-2013 01:06

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I'd scrap the toss and give the decision to the away team in every Test - think you'd see much more even wickets prepared. In general the pitches this series looked to be designed to aid reverse swing and spin - and a conscious effort to avoid some of the traditional green-tops favouring seam & swing. After some better batting wickets for the last few years, they seemed more stacked towards the bowlers this time, my guess is a reaction to the last tour by South AfricaI'd scrap the toss and give the decision to the away team in every Test - think you'd see much more even wickets prepared.

In general the pitches this series looked to be designed to aid reverse swing and spin - and a conscious effort to avoid some of the traditional green-tops favouring seam & swing.

After some better batting wickets for the last few years, they seemed more stacked towards the bowlers this time, my guess is a reaction to the last tour by South Africa

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 20-11-2013 06:36

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Tomorrow we begin again, the Gabba is not a happy hunting ground for the English.Tomorrow we begin again, the Gabba is not a happy hunting ground for the English.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 22-11-2013 22:01

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I thought Australia made a meal of their first innings, but England seemed to do even worse. The wicket is pretty good as well, so no fault thereI thought Australia made a meal of their first innings, but England seemed to do even worse. The wicket is pretty good as well, so no fault there

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 24-11-2013 07:46

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Rain saves the English for the moment, but unless it rains all day tomorrow with only 2 wickets left it looks likely to be over pretty quickly on day 5Rain saves the English for the moment, but unless it rains all day tomorrow with only 2 wickets left it looks likely to be over pretty quickly on day 5

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 25-11-2013 12:37

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It all cleared up and ended inside 4 days. Trott's now going home with a stress related illness. Not the best start to ashes campaign for England, but there is a long way to go yet.It all cleared up and ended inside 4 days. Trott's now going home with a stress related illness. Not the best start to ashes campaign for England, but there is a long way to go yet.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 25-11-2013 12:56

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Lol stress related... What a cop out. Big loss England, all the pressure is now on Cook and maybe Bell to bat for long periods.Lol stress related... What a cop out.

Big loss England, all the pressure is now on Cook and maybe Bell to bat for long periods.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 09-12-2013 04:44

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England are now 2-0 down going into Perth, no large scores from Cook, Bell, Peiterson or Prior. Carberry and Root have shown some fight. Anderson and Broad are doing a good job, but Swann, Panesar, Tremlett and Stokes have all gone the journey. It could be at a long summer on the road, though with 7 back to back tests down England still lead 3-2England are now 2-0 down going into Perth, no large scores from Cook, Bell, Peiterson or Prior. Carberry and Root have shown some fight. Anderson and Broad are doing a good job, but Swann, Panesar, Tremlett and Stokes have all gone the journey.

It could be at a long summer on the road, though with 7 back to back tests down England still lead 3-2

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 17-12-2013 06:54

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And that's 3-0 the ashes return Australia. A good century from Stokes though, England's first for the series. So after 8 back to back test matches it now stands 3-3 who will come out on topAnd that's 3-0 the ashes return Australia. A good century from Stokes though, England's first for the series.

So after 8 back to back test matches it now stands 3-3 who will come out on top

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 05-01-2014 07:55

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5-0 and England get bowled out in 31 overs in their last innings. 2 years until it happens again. The teams may look very different by then5-0 and England get bowled out in 31 overs in their last innings.

2 years until it happens again. The teams may look very different by then

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 05-01-2014 10:34

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I see the English aren't saying much...I see the English aren't saying much...

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 05-01-2014 12:53

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Words cannot describe...Words cannot describe...

Re: 2013 Ashes

By madmonk - 06-01-2014 00:37

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Is there an emoticon for spineless? Credit to Lehmann/Australia for turning things round in short order. Think you're in for a tougher test against South Africa which will provide an interesting perspective on whether you're that good or England were that bad. Can we poach whoever sorted out Mitchell Johnson to work with Finn please? No idea who can sort out our batting though. In hindsight we've been going downhill for a couple of years, and probably need someone new to shake things up a bit. The sad part is this lot are so entitled they're already campaigning for things to stay as they are, or Ashley Giles to succeed Flower to keep the same lot going. The only English positives I can see from the series are Stokes and Broad.Is there an emoticon for spineless?

Credit to Lehmann/Australia for turning things round in short order. Think you're in for a tougher test against South Africa which will provide an interesting perspective on whether you're that good or England were that bad.

Can we poach whoever sorted out Mitchell Johnson to work with Finn please?
No idea who can sort out our batting though.

In hindsight we've been going downhill for a couple of years, and probably need someone new to shake things up a bit. The sad part is this lot are so entitled they're already campaigning for things to stay as they are, or Ashley Giles to succeed Flower to keep the same lot going.

The only English positives I can see from the series are Stokes and Broad.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 06-01-2014 03:00

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Stokes played pretty well, but that's generous to Broad. Only 1 good bowling innings and was nowhere near his best with the bat. If he was on debut, maybe, but he is a senior player and should be doing better (along with most of the team).

madmonk wrote:

The only English positives I can see from the series are Stokes and Broad.

Stokes played pretty well, but that's generous to Broad. Only 1 good bowling innings and was nowhere near his best with the bat. If he was on debut, maybe, but he is a senior player and should be doing better (along with most of the team).

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 06-01-2014 10:42

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This is a quote from an ABC new article I just read Of the two previous 5-0 clean-sweeps in 1920-21 and 2006-07, England scored less runs, lost more wickets at a worse average this summer than ever before. It's stark readingThis is a quote from an ABC new article I just read

Of the two previous 5-0 clean-sweeps in 1920-21 and 2006-07, England scored less runs, lost more wickets at a worse average this summer than ever before.

It's stark reading

Re: 2013 Ashes

By madmonk - 07-01-2014 00:43

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A couple of places I've seen have given out player ratings for England for the series. Think Broad got 7, Stokes got 7.5, nobody else got more than 3. Broad averaged around 27 with the ball, which wasn't too bad considering there was next to no pressure from anyone else. Collectively England only bowled Australia out twice in one of the Tests, so there weren't that many 'cheaper' tailend wickets to help the average. As for the batting, he averaged 19 or to put it another way only 10 less than our best front-line batsman, I'd agree not his best but at least average which is way better than our batsmen managed. I'm not a Broad fan, but he was the one senior player who showed some backbone - and the one who copped the most stick all tour.A couple of places I've seen have given out player ratings for England for the series.

Think Broad got 7, Stokes got 7.5, nobody else got more than 3.

Broad averaged around 27 with the ball, which wasn't too bad considering there was next to no pressure from anyone else. Collectively England only bowled Australia out twice in one of the Tests, so there weren't that many 'cheaper' tailend wickets to help the average. As for the batting, he averaged 19 or to put it another way only 10 less than our best front-line batsman, I'd agree not his best but at least average which is way better than our batsmen managed. I'm not a Broad fan, but he was the one senior player who showed some backbone - and the one who copped the most stick all tour.

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