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2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 11-07-2013 15:19

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It's great to be in Europe and able to watch the whole match. Been a great match so far, mostly dominated by bowlers until Agar came out - breaking all kinds of records.It's great to be in Europe and able to watch the whole match.

Been a great match so far, mostly dominated by bowlers until Agar came out - breaking all kinds of records.

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Re: 2013 Ashes

By damo11 - 27-07-2013 09:15

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Why didn't Clarke bat? He needs just as much practice as the rest of them. Sure, he might need his rest (back issues, mental, etc), but he's not going to get better by sitting on the sidelines.Why didn't Clarke bat? He needs just as much practice as the rest of them. Sure, he might need his rest (back issues, mental, etc), but he's not going to get better by sitting on the sidelines.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 27-07-2013 09:40

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With his back problems he might get better by doing nothing. And if he's not under so much pressure when he comes in he would prob make more runs.With his back problems he might get better by doing nothing.

And if he's not under so much pressure when he comes in he would prob make more runs.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By deleted_5669342 - 28-07-2013 06:40

Bird bowled beautifully. Hard to miss him for the next test. Hard to see why he wasn't picked for the first test ahead of Starc. Because he is a left hander.. he is better..?Bird bowled beautifully. Hard to miss him for the next test.
Hard to see why he wasn't picked for the first test ahead of Starc.
Because he is a left hander.. he is better..?

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 28-07-2013 14:27

[ENG]

See Warner is at it againSee Warner is at it again

Re: 2013 Ashes

By damo11 - 29-07-2013 14:57

[AUSNZ]

He's our new Andrew Symonds.

mosmosmos wrote:

See Warner is at it again

He's our new Andrew Symonds.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By deleted_5669342 - 31-07-2013 13:22

Rumours that there will be a new look opening combination. Interesting. Hopefully it will be Hughes + Warner, see what they can do.Rumours that there will be a new look opening combination. Interesting.
Hopefully it will be Hughes + Warner, see what they can do.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 11:44

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Here we go... I don't agree with the batting lineup, but the selections are decent. Maybe Bird over Starc (particularly because Starc will give Swann some rough to bowl into). Good to win a toss, hopefully it changes the way we play mentally.Here we go...

I don't agree with the batting lineup, but the selections are decent. Maybe Bird over Starc (particularly because Starc will give Swann some rough to bowl into).

Good to win a toss, hopefully it changes the way we play mentally.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 01-08-2013 13:51

[ENG]

There are definitely problems with the review system in regards to overruling caught behinds like this. Of course there won't be evidence if he hasn't hit it. Makes no senseThere are definitely problems with the review system in regards to overruling caught behinds like this.

Of course there won't be evidence if he hasn't hit it. Makes no sense

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 13:51

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Wtf? I'm gonna say it now... Match fixing? That was bullshit.Wtf?

I'm gonna say it now... Match fixing? That was bullshit.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 14:03

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Erasmus did the same in the first test and ends up on field for 2 and 3. Tony Hill did it in 2nd test and ends up on field in 3. Dharmasena does it in the 3rd test... Maybe he wants a spot on field for the next test. Maybe the 3rd umpire should be someone that knows the technology rather than an actual umpire.Erasmus did the same in the first test and ends up on field for 2 and 3.

Tony Hill did it in 2nd test and ends up on field in 3.

Dharmasena does it in the 3rd test... Maybe he wants a spot on field for the next test.

Maybe the 3rd umpire should be someone that knows the technology rather than an actual umpire.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By scruttino - 01-08-2013 15:06

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Apparently snickometer can be ready to view in 5 second, they are planning to use it (or so the ABC Grandstand/BBC Commentary team are saying) in the return Australian leg of the ashesApparently snickometer can be ready to view in 5 second, they are planning to use it (or so the ABC Grandstand/BBC Commentary team are saying) in the return Australian leg of the ashes

Re: 2013 Ashes

By theme_dreamer - 01-08-2013 15:11

Our batting has been pathetic, we decide we need to bring in reinforcement... and our saviour bats at six?!?! You are absolutely spot on with that. Although I agree with the point Michael Vaughan made about 17 times - "it's not a problem with the technology, that's just human error" On the positive side - GO CHRIS ROGERS!!! [:D][:D][:D]

tosspot wrote:

]I don't agree with the batting lineup, but the selections are decent.

Our batting has been pathetic, we decide we need to bring in reinforcement... and our saviour bats at six?!?!

mosmosmos wrote:

There are definitely problems with the review system in regards to overruling caught behinds like this.

Of course there won't be evidence if he hasn't hit it. Makes no sense

You are absolutely spot on with that. Although I agree with the point Michael Vaughan made about 17 times - "it's not a problem with the technology, that's just human error"

On the positive side - GO CHRIS ROGERS!!! :D:D:D

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 15:13

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But hotspot showed nothing and he ignored that. Snicko too often shows noises when there are none because the frame rate of these technologies is too low. Bring in super slow mo... Would be much more useful than any of this stuff.

scruttino wrote:

Apparently snickometer can be ready to view in 5 second, they are planning to use it (or so the ABC Grandstand/BBC Commentary team are saying) in the return Australian leg of the ashes

But hotspot showed nothing and he ignored that. Snicko too often shows noises when there are none because the frame rate of these technologies is too low.

Bring in super slow mo... Would be much more useful than any of this stuff.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By overthetop3 - 01-08-2013 15:30

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The umpiring in this series has been f***ing pathetic... only slightly better than an average association football match.The umpiring in this series has been f***ing pathetic... only slightly better than an average association football match.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By theme_dreamer - 01-08-2013 15:35

Well so much for that... they got that one right, Rogers was plumb.Well so much for that... they got that one right, Rogers was plumb.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 15:40

[AUSNZ]

Well we are 100 runs better off than usual at 3-130.Well we are 100 runs better off than usual at 3-130.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 01-08-2013 16:28

[ENG]

Shis shouldn't be outShis shouldn't be out

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 16:31

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Thank god, I thought he was going to give it there. The noise was 2 or 3 frames later. He's using the technology as if he was an on field umpire. Hotspot should be 90% of a decision like that.Thank god, I thought he was going to give it there.

The noise was 2 or 3 frames later. He's using the technology as if he was an on field umpire.

Hotspot should be 90% of a decision like that.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 01-08-2013 16:34

[ENG]

Agreed. Wonder what the noise actually was though?

tosspot wrote:

Thank god, I thought he was going to give it there.

The noise was 2 or 3 frames later. He's using the technology as if he was an on field umpire.

Hotspot should be 90% of a decision like that.

Agreed. Wonder what the noise actually was though?

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 16:54

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Could be anything... Top of the handle (either just the grip or actual handle) hitting his wrist as the bat swings through Could be his foot sliding over a bump in the ground (the mic is in the stumps). The Khawaja 'decision' proved that snicko picks up sounds in the right frame. When his bat hit his pad, the sound and snicko both had it in the frame 2 or 3 before the ball went past the bat. So if the noise is late/early, it wasn't bat.Could be anything...
Top of the handle (either just the grip or actual handle) hitting his wrist as the bat swings through
Could be his foot sliding over a bump in the ground (the mic is in the stumps).

The Khawaja 'decision' proved that snicko picks up sounds in the right frame. When his bat hit his pad, the sound and snicko both had it in the frame 2 or 3 before the ball went past the bat. So if the noise is late/early, it wasn't bat.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 01-08-2013 17:13

[ENG]

Well that LBW was a shockerWell that LBW was a shocker

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 17:34

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At least he was judging it in real time with no replays. But it seems we're even now. Good to see England the team without any reviews left.At least he was judging it in real time with no replays.

But it seems we're even now.

Good to see England the team without any reviews left.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By damo11 - 01-08-2013 17:55

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Clarke makes his way to 90....and we await his runout at 99.Clarke makes his way to 90....and we await his runout at 99.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 18:59

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I would put our much better start down to winning the toss. Totally different mindset and conditions when you win the toss.I would put our much better start down to winning the toss. Totally different mindset and conditions when you win the toss.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 01-08-2013 20:38

[ENG]

Looks like a bit of a road. Not much in it. Australia to make 400-500. England to drop about 100 short. Plenty of rain forecast for the weekend. Ashes retained by MondayLooks like a bit of a road. Not much in it. Australia to make 400-500. England to drop about 100 short.

Plenty of rain forecast for the weekend.

Ashes retained by Monday

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 01-08-2013 23:00

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England always seem to get rain when they are behind - happened in Australia a few times too. Should we say they haven't deserved an Ashes in 25 years?

mosmosmos wrote:

Looks like a bit of a road. Not much in it. Australia to make 400-500. England to drop about 100 short.

Plenty of rain forecast for the weekend.

Ashes retained by Monday

England always seem to get rain when they are behind - happened in Australia a few times too. Should we say they haven't deserved an Ashes in 25 years?

Re: 2013 Ashes

By deleted_5669342 - 02-08-2013 09:38

the 2005 ashes victory was a good one.. agains ta very strong aussie side. anyone else waiting for warners quickfire century?

tosspot wrote:

England always seem to get rain when they are behind - happened in Australia a few times too. Should we say they haven't deserved an Ashes in 25 years?

the 2005 ashes victory was a good one.. agains ta very strong aussie side.

anyone else waiting for warners quickfire century?

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 02-08-2013 13:27

[ENG]

Warner. LolWarner. Lol

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 02-08-2013 13:36

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Until that last replay I had no idea how he could have though he hadn't hit that. Clarke is at fault there, he should have seen the deviation. I was hoping Warner was going to come out punching like Rocky Balboa when he was booed.Until that last replay I had no idea how he could have though he hadn't hit that. Clarke is at fault there, he should have seen the deviation.

I was hoping Warner was going to come out punching like Rocky Balboa when he was booed.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 02-08-2013 16:26

[ENG]

So, you've made a good score. Now how are you actually going to win the game?So, you've made a good score. Now how are you actually going to win the game?

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 02-08-2013 16:44

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I think there was little chance of 4 innings on this pitch, so best option is to put a heap of runs on the board and try get England out twice. There is no other way to win a test on a pitch like this.I think there was little chance of 4 innings on this pitch, so best option is to put a heap of runs on the board and try get England out twice. There is no other way to win a test on a pitch like this.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By damo11 - 03-08-2013 16:39

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Dunno if that will work if we can't get one of these two out...Dunno if that will work if we can't get one of these two out...

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 03-08-2013 19:10

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Not sure Peterson was out there - but the hotspot appeared as though it was on the back of the bat (which is not possible), so it looked like a reflection.Not sure Peterson was out there - but the hotspot appeared as though it was on the back of the bat (which is not possible), so it looked like a reflection.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 04-08-2013 13:21

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So what is it. 350 for us to chase in 4 sessions?So what is it.

350 for us to chase in 4 sessions?

Re: 2013 Ashes

By damo11 - 04-08-2013 14:54

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1 less review for the Poms :)1 less review for the Poms :)

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 05-08-2013 11:03

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Would love to see Cook sit out the next test for time wasting.Would love to see Cook sit out the next test for time wasting.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 05-08-2013 11:13

[ENG]

Are Aussies always this bitter?

tosspot wrote:

Would love to see Cook sit out the next test for time wasting.

Are Aussies always this bitter?

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 05-08-2013 11:32

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Only when the other team needs to cheat.

mosmosmos wrote:

Are Aussies always this bitter?

Only when the other team needs to cheat.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 05-08-2013 11:37

[ENG]

A bit rich with Austalia's history. What goes around etc...

tosspot wrote:

Only when the other team needs to cheat.

A bit rich with Austalia's history.

What goes around etc...

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 05-08-2013 11:40

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Any specific incidents? Can't recall any that broke rules and avoided punishment.Any specific incidents?

Can't recall any that broke rules and avoided punishment.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 05-08-2013 11:42

[ENG]

England aren't breaking any rules either. Just pushing them to the limit. Something Australians have done for years with great success.

tosspot wrote:

Any specific incidents?

Can't recall any that broke rules and avoided punishment.

England aren't breaking any rules either. Just pushing them to the limit. Something Australians have done for years with great success.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 05-08-2013 11:45

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There is a rule that says slow over rates are punishable by fines and suspension of the captain. I'm just hoping it's the latter. Is it more that England don't think they are good enough to win the Ashes and they need to play for a drawn series?

mosmosmos wrote:

England aren't breaking any rules either. Just pushing them to the limit. Something Australians have done for years with great success.

There is a rule that says slow over rates are punishable by fines and suspension of the captain. I'm just hoping it's the latter.

Is it more that England don't think they are good enough to win the Ashes and they need to play for a drawn series?

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 05-08-2013 11:50

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A drawn series? We're 2-0 up and Aus have had 1 good innings in 5 and haven't genuinely looked like winning a test comfortably. I'd have fancied our chances of chasing down 350 on this. Shame about the rain. 4-0 should still be a formality though weather permitting.

tosspot wrote:

There is a rule that says slow over rates are punishable by fines and suspension of the captain. I'm just hoping it's the latter.

Is it more that England don't think they are good enough to win the Ashes and they need to play for a drawn series?

A drawn series?

We're 2-0 up and Aus have had 1 good innings in 5 and haven't genuinely looked like winning a test comfortably.

I'd have fancied our chances of chasing down 350 on this. Shame about the rain. 4-0 should still be a formality though weather permitting.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 05-08-2013 12:05

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Anything less than 4-0 would be embarrassing for England I would have thought.

mosmosmos wrote:

A drawn series?

We're 2-0 up and Aus have had 1 good innings in 5 and haven't genuinely looked like winning a test comfortably.

I'd have fancied our chances of chasing down 350 on this. Shame about the rain. 4-0 should still be a formality though weather permitting.

Anything less than 4-0 would be embarrassing for England I would have thought.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 05-08-2013 12:40

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Maybe Cook should sit the next test out anyway :)Maybe Cook should sit the next test out anyway :)

Re: 2013 Ashes

By mosmosmos - 05-08-2013 13:50

[ENG]

27-3 is our standard score this series.27-3 is our standard score this series.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By jamie1976 - 05-08-2013 13:59

[ENG]

KP is very unlucky there,KP is very unlucky there,

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 05-08-2013 14:11

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I don't think so actually. Check the seam as it goes past his bat. It's sticking out towards his bat, the string has hit his bat and made the noise which was not enough to show up on England's budget hot spot cameras.

jamie1976 wrote:

KP is very unlucky there,

I don't think so actually. Check the seam as it goes past his bat. It's sticking out towards his bat, the string has hit his bat and made the noise which was not enough to show up on England's budget hot spot cameras.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By tosspot - 05-08-2013 14:11

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Actually, unlucky? Maybe. Though it wasn't unfair.Actually, unlucky? Maybe.

Though it wasn't unfair.

Re: 2013 Ashes

By deleted_5669342 - 05-08-2013 14:29

nah clear sound! Don't think anyone could doubt clarke's captaincy at the moment. Has been sublime..nah clear sound!
Don't think anyone could doubt clarke's captaincy at the moment. Has been sublime..

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