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Premiership 2013/14

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Here we go, men. The start of the Premier League season is days away.

I will be at Anfield for the early kick off; beer first half, bovril second half. Always. Probably play out a draw against Mark Hughes' free flowing Stoke outfit.

What are you fine gents saying about the ensung season then? Chelsea will win it says I. United, Citeh, Arsenal completing the top four. Spurs will lose Bale to Madrid shortly but still beat Liverpool to 5th in another forgetful season for us.

Cardiff, Hull and Palace straight back down I reckon. Though I would more so enjoy it if Villa, West Ham or Stoke were to in fact fall.

Hurrah. Football.
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A rule designed to single out the richest clubs spending the most? Im sure how much they would be prepared to bribe never came into the creation of it.

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I detect your sarcasm sir. City will appeal just like Uefalona did.

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CITY WON! first to post that and I'm sooo not a fan of them.

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Majority of fans joined in the 2012 season mostly there's a handful hundred and who probably live in Manchester who supported them the whole way long.

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Yep, lots of bandwagoners.

They were the best team all season but after spending 500 million or whatever spent you would hope so.

Should be winning the Champions League too to be honest but nowhere near that.

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majority of fans didn't join in 2012. They don't have nearly as many bandwagoners as United and Liverpool. The CL will be there next season to win if Pellegrini doesn't play safe at home. A treble is in the making.

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Real Madrid and Liverpool would be interesting and Dortmund vs City or bayern vs city.

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in the CL of course.

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Real are the team to beat atm, anyone will be lucky to knock them off for the next couple of years, even harder if they sign Suarez from Liverpool, which would be suicide for the Reds. No amount of money should be enough to get him to leave atm, every successful team MUST have a player with real spark, and for Liverpool, hes that man. If he goes then they will struggle for Champs leagues next year as Spurs, Chelsea and Man Utd will be a much stronger force next season.

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rockstarroberts wrote:
majority of fans didn't join in 2012. They don't have nearly as many bandwagoners as United and Liverpool. The CL will be there next season to win if Pellegrini doesn't play safe at home. A treble is in the making.


You know as well as anyone (as I'm sure you're one of them)... Sheikh Mansour didn't just get overpaid players for his money, he also got glory hunting fans.

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tosspot wrote:
You know as well as anyone (as I'm sure you're one of them)... Sheikh Mansour didn't just get overpaid players for his money, he also got glory hunting fans.


I'm sure there are many tossposts on Liverpool's bandwagon. Out of all the premier league clubs, we've the highest attendance for all competitions for the last 25 years. Blue Moon Rising, kid.

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rockstarroberts wrote:
we've the highest attendance for all competitions for the last 25 years. Blue Moon Rising, kid.


Can you just break this down for us? The sentence itself makes no sense and if you are trying to say what I think you are trying to say then it's total nonsense.

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mjeezy wrote:
Can you just break this down for us? The sentence itself makes no sense and if you are trying to say what I think you are trying to say then it's total nonsense.


I'll break it down for the incompetent. City fans have attended more games in the past 25 years than any other premier league club. This includes all competitions.

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No incompetence here, amigo. Your sentence didn't make any sense at all. Fortunately for the incompetent I got the jist of what you were trying to say.

With that in mind, I simply do not believe it. Relatively VERY few seasons of Champions League football (what is it 3?) and not including the Community Shield only 2 domestic cup trophies in that time, not to mention a relegation to the third tier of English football. Factoring in the fact Maine Road was restricted to to about 32,000 for 19 of those 25 years I cannot believe for one moment Manchester United have not had a far far greater attendance record over that time, as well as a few other teams.

Please provide a reference to substantiate your claim or I'm afraid you are talking bologna (to use a term you Americans are familiar with).

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mjeezy wrote:
No incompetence here, amigo. Your sentence didn't make any sense at all. Fortunately for the incompetent I got the jist of what you were trying to say.

With that in mind, I simply do not believe it. Relatively VERY few seasons of Champions League football (what is it 3?) and not including the Community Shield only 2 domestic cup trophies in that time, not to mention a relegation to the third tier of English football. Factoring in the fact Maine Road was restricted to to about 32,000 for 19 of those 25 years I cannot believe for one moment Manchester United have not had a far far greater attendance record over that time, as well as a few other teams.

Please provide a reference to substantiate your claim or I'm afraid you are talking bologna (to use a term you Americans are familiar with).


Give this man a cookie.

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you can go to the barclays premier league site and find it yourself

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Gratz Manchester City :-)

Gratz for Liverpool for a nice & hopefull season :-)

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rockstarroberts wrote:
you can go to the barclays premier league site and find it yourself


So wait, why would it be there if your statistic is "for all competitions". Why would the Premier League hold information about European competition or FA domestic competitions? Let me think...

...I have it! No such statistic exists and is absolute fabrication on your part. Thanks for clearing that up, buddy.

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because Manchester City are a premier league club, duhhhhhh

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rockstarroberts wrote:
because Manchester City are a premier league club, duhhhhhh


That has not answered my question at all. Why would they hold statistics on competitions outside of their control? Do UEFA tell you Jack Rodwell's total season passes on their website? Granted, it can be counted on a single hand but the answer is still no.

Joking aside, I have been on the website and it isn't there. Furthermore, my good pal Google cannot come up with the answer to back up your ascertain. Now he has never let me down before. Unfortunately, I have no choice but to call male cow faeces originating from your gob (to use a term you Americans are not familiar with) on this occasion.

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well, I accept that you're wrong

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rockstarroberts wrote:
well, I accept that you're wrong


Despite being undeniably right. Exceptional.

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Delusions are bad

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rockstarroberts wrote:
Delusions are bad


Mkay, Mr Mackee mykay.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_United_F.C._seasons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manchester_City_F.C._seasons

If we look there, you will notice City was not in the premier league (LOL) for a few seasons and hence played 8 more league matches for 5 seasons. However, they didn't make Europe 16 times whereas Manchester United have never failed to make Europe since the inception of the PL. That's 16 * at least 6 (for group stages of Europe) and in most of those, United played many more matches.

So using basic arithmetic... I can work out that Manchester United played a SHITLOAD more matches than City, add the fact that they had a bigger stadium for much of that time and the gap only widens.

What does all this mean? rockstarroberts is as we already knew, wrong and stupid.

Manufactured City are not a club. I commend them on their youth set up etc, but considering the results of this little experiment... they are still a stain on English football so far.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/05/11/upshot/up-soccer-table.html?smid=tw-share&smv2

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You're as overrated and inept of a manager as Pep Guardiola

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I love excuses tables like that.

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rockstarroberts wrote:
You're as overrated and inept of a manager as Pep Guardiola

Totally agree.

3 La Liga titles
1 Tercera Liga
1 Bundesliga
2 Copa del Rey
3 Spanish Super Cup
2 Champions League
3 UEFA Super Cup
3 FIFA Club World Cup

What a crap manager.

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5-0 beatdown as well

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rockstarroberts wrote:
5-0 beatdown as well


Would prefer 5-0 in the semi final than 4-1 in the round of 16... wouldn't you?

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If you're not first, you're last, so no.

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rockstarroberts wrote:
If you're not first, you're last, so no.


Guess City have been last in all of the few Champions League's they've been in. Pep has won 2, would you rather no titles or 2 titles?

United, Liverpool and Chelsea have all won the Champions League in the last 10 years. Where's City on that list?

Stats are wonderful aren't they?

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Guess City have been last in all of the few Champions League's they've been in. Pep has won 2, would you rather no titles or 2 titles?

United, Liverpool and Chelsea have all won the Champions League in the last 10 years. Where's City on that list?

Stats are wonderful aren't they?


good for Pep. He'll never win another one while at Bayern, He'll be out coached by Ancelotti again. Past Glory is also wonderful.

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Why do youse type back though :(

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Um........... because this conversation is hilarious? I want this to continue. RSR- "two plus two equals five, ha!"....
everyone else, "where did you get your information?"
RSR "a book"
Everyone else "which book? all math and science books prove that two plus two is four. you're dumb!"
RSR "newton was overrated and so are all of you!"

Hahahaha, classic!

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classic, annoying adv. Your sarcasm amuses none.

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the truth hurts, i am sorry. oh yeah, it amuses me and really between the two us, i am the only one who matters.

annoying? the mere fact you are able to spew forth stupidity and incorrect 'facts' over and over again without someone smacking you is the real annoyance. however, in this case, i truly want you to continue your ridiculous illogical arguments, lack of any real facts and inability to do simple math because it is down right hilarious.

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there's no truth in your statements. google must be hard for an inept person like you.

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what the heck are you talking about? uh, you want truth just look at all of your previous posts on this page. oh please stop... i am laughing so much my sides are beginning to hurt! you do realize every text book argument fallacy can be found in all of our 'logical' arguments?

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Yes, please continue to be a waste of space in the forums while others will actually be productive. You're the American version of tosspot and one tosspot can only be tolerated for so long.

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Please tell me you are not that...less smart. You have just done it again. Just stop trying to make any sense of an argument. Seriously, you actually represent America on these boards and you are very, very bad at it (arguing).

Plus I seriously hope you were trying to be ironic. Actually, do you even see the irony in your post, (I doubt it)?

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I don't think you understand what irony means. I represent America on these threads. They're threads, not boards, so you fail again. If you're not going to talk about the premier league, then just leave. And troll somewhere else.

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rockstarroberts wrote:
You're the American version of tosspot and one tosspot can only be tolerated for so long.

Wow, that's quite a compliment.

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They're threads, not boards, so you fail again.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA, you pull him up for that, yet you haven't said anything correct on this forum (yes, the entire forum).

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sure toss, your english goals table was so brilliant and correct. I love proper excuses. So, why did you lads blow a 3-0 lead against Crystal Palace. And why did your inept manager bring on a striker instead of a defender to tighten things up?

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rockstarroberts wrote:
sure toss, your english goals table was so brilliant and correct. I love proper excuses. So, why did you lads blow a 3-0 lead against Crystal Palace. And why did your inept manager bring on a striker instead of a defender to tighten things up?


The goals table was not about excuses, it was explaining how Man City are not supporting English football like you seem to think. They buy mercenaries which wins them titles (not Champions Leagues though LOL), but it doesn't make them a club, it makes them a toy for a rich Arab bloke. Go back and read the shit you write - if you truly believe any of that you probably need to go back and finish school.

That Palace game was irrelevant, 2 more points there would have achieved what? The table would have ended up exactly as it did.

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well, that and poor tactics against Chelsea. City are determined to produce English players. The academy building is under construction so don't be ignorant.

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rockstarroberts wrote:
well, that and poor tactics against Chelsea. City are determined to produce English players. The academy building is under construction so don't be ignorant.


Same Chelsea team that beat City twice. City used similar tactics to Liverpool (ie have the ball 70% of the time and try break down 10 defenders).

So you're admitting that City have done nothing for English football? But they might in the future?

Sounds a lot like their Champions League wins - never done it, but might if they keep breaking spending rules. All the other teams you claim are crap... United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, Barca. All of those adhere to the rules in place too.

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Liverpool spent 90 million just to finish top four. Except Chelsea played us straight up. We've produced plenty of Brits. Giggs, Sturridge and many others. Those rules are for bums. Life isn't fair and neither is FFP.

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lol, yep Sturridge is the last English player to graduate from City and play for England. He graduated 7 years ago.

Even their academy is full of foreigners - again... nothing for England.

Also, Giggs is a bit of a stretch... he wen to United at age 14.

Facts aren't your thing are they?

Starting lineups for the last day of the season cost:
City: 196mil
Liverpool: 106mil
Chelsea: 177mil + William Gallas

So less than 10mil per player vs ~18 and ~16 for City/Chelsea.

There are those facts again.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_City_F.C._Reserves_and_Academy#Current_squad Brits, A lot of brits
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