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Dear CREW,

Gathering together from countries around the world, we would like to unite in one reason and ask you to upgrade hockey SIM. During last years we have been improving our teams, optimizing strategy and tactics to fit into sim but even sharing experience and knowledge we observe growing unbalance and irrational results. The game become very lottery and it is hard to continue develop of players and teams without stabilization of sim engine itself.

The most critical points are:
- The advantage when playing away
- Return from shorthanded game to 5 on 5 play
- Unrealistic one on one play
- Short cross-passing (across ice) by defenders
- Scout games without any correlation into "normal" games
- Balance of players skills

As society we are open for discussion and any support you would need from our side to make next step for ManagerZone Hockey SIM … it is about time

We will ask all manager to sign below voluntary to show how many of us care about hockey and would like to continue compete between each other for next years …

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Projektet- 2008 WWF Comarruga= 2-4
Shots: 19-14

Scandal MZ

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Sometimes the opponent's goaltender is better than yours.

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Is it still so that passing is useless skill.
When will it be 3D of hockey why was it removed, it was good.

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I think its like Borat sim in my last 2 div 2 match 🙃

Last 2 match for me is like omg?!


Matchfakta BUC SSKD
Mål 3 0
Skott 10 18
Tekningar Vunna 11 9
Tekningsprocent 55% 45%
Räddningar 15 7
Antal Utvisningar 0 1



Matchfakta SSKD Råa
Mål 0 2
Skott 15 5
Tekningar Vunna 11 10
Tekningsprocent 52% 48%
Räddningar 3 16
Antal Utvisningar 0 0

Do the sim not like Zlatan? 😆😂

We need to take a look whit GPA now and make this more realistik? 🤓

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zanavykas wrote:
Is it still so that passing is useless skill.
When will it be 3D of hockey why was it removed, it was good.

It is not removed mate.

What I do is use Mozzila/Chrome for navigation and..... Internet Explorer for viewing my matches in 3D.

I use v13 of IE, Java is still enabled while using it.

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can you be more specific what should be set? I use win7

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zanavykas wrote:
can you be more specific what should be set? I use win7


Just download a previous version of Internet explorer, for example version 13 like the one I use, which allows Java to be run.

Log in MZ there and try to view 3d match in hockey. If you do not have Java, you will be instructed to install it. When everything setting up Java for IE has finished, if you restart IE you will be able to watch 3d matches there.

Then, if you do not wish to use IE as your browser, just use it only to watch only the 3d games.
I just copy and paste the link of the 3d game to IE from my initial browser (Mozzila) and that's it.

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Hopefully one day 3D in hockey will be re-done like in football, without java.

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😓

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I use IE 11 but cannot see 3D

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Matchfakta DANC MEAN
Mål 5 4
Skott 18 19
Tekningar Vunna 14 17
Tekningsprocent 45% 55%
Räddningar 14 11
Antal Utvisningar 1 0

fuck the simulator!!

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testoman wrote:
Matchfakta DANC MEAN
Mål 5 4
Skott 18 19
Tekningar Vunna 14 17
Tekningsprocent 45% 55%
Räddningar 14 11
Antal Utvisningar 1 0

fuck the simulator!!


😂 It is not at all unusual unfortunately. Happens daily for many of us since the latest patch. Only sad thing is that crew not even want to talk about it.

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another huge punch in my mental stomach!

someone wake me up from this nightmare!

I worked very hard in this cup. I was in group with 4 top teams (HCMIT Craiova, Steel Spiders, The Underdogs and Pakorro Nevado) and I managed to win the group in the end. And now, this match comes and destroys me!😭

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another one bites the dust 😥

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188427607&tid=31125

division 2 and with players 22 years and under

and the figure of the party !!

Oliver Piercy

Age: 33



it's ridiculous.

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Genuinely think both sports is just lucky dip! I’m very close to just walking away!

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brian_mcsnail wrote:
Genuinely think both sports is just lucky dip! I’m very close to just walking away!


Unfortunately true, stats and tactics matter way less than just random sim's mood. Too many of them scores in both sports.

It's killing the healthy competetiveness.

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sabiutza wrote:


another huge punch in my mental stomach!

someone wake me up from this nightmare!

I worked very hard in this cup. I was in group with 4 top teams (HCMIT Craiova, Steel Spiders, The Underdogs and Pakorro Nevado) and I managed to win the group in the end. And now, this match comes and destroys me!😭


I wonder, maybe we should write some kind of petition, paste all them crazy scores and maybe then ''eventually'' crew would fix this crazy simulator? It's very sad, as you said, you work hard, and then get this sick score in the cup, when your rival should lose something like 6-1...

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sabiutza wrote:


full of those results, tire this sim

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Such an unimportant game...

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fci1h wrote:
Such an unimportant game...

Incredible bad luck!

This kind of issues shouldn't happen in such competitions!

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The first playoff match in Team Spirit Cup

I am totally disgusted. I think I'll quit this game soon.

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These are very strange results now. It is usually when the opponents have a smaller number of players, type 10 + 1 that it usually happens but also when the opponents have a full squad. So something must have happened with the last update with the sim that was not really meant. Gone the boost is admittedly gone but now this is happening instead.

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Another crazy match in EC 2021. It happened last night.

We might say that Russia won unfair...

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fci1h wrote:
Such an unimportant game...



but Hungary won unfair here, too.

So, the SIM balances the things in the end...

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sabiutza wrote:
but Hungary won unfair here, too.

So, the SIM balances the things in the end...


Balances for who? for Hungary yes, maybe later for the Russians but not for Poland 😉
I have spoken many times. If we already accept such cases, let's do at least a match and rematch to the cups

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fci1h wrote:
Balances for who? for Hungary yes, maybe later for the Russians but not for Poland 😉
I have spoken many times. If we already accept such cases, let's do at least a match and rematch to the cups


Agree let be more games (like 2 home and ayway) and also best of maybe 2 or more games also in the playoffs.

Sad to se you not in the playoffs. I do not accept this but rather laugh such a results. It would be good if the crew wanted to develop the simulator or increase to several matches 2 or more, so these lottery matches do not affect as much.

In playoff we need like best of 3 maybe?

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zlatan_zlatan wrote:
Agree let be more games (like 2 home and ayway) and also best of maybe 2 or more games also in the playoffs.

Sad to se you not in the playoffs. I do not accept this but rather laugh such a results. It would be good if the crew wanted to develop the simulator or increase to several matches 2 or more, so these lottery matches do not affect as much.

In playoff we need like best of 3 maybe?


Anyone who keeps playing laughs more than gets nervous. That's why we keep playing 😉
Of course, we can dream about the NHL system, but there is nothing to demand. However, twice lucky for a theoretically weaker team could bring more acceptance for their wins.

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Here is another match with strange results where Bad Boys United play with 16-year-olds and with very few players.

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188540075

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188514563&tid=79307
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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185803466&tid=79307

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check this guys:




and the first match in this cup, with the same tactic:




I am just speachless 😭

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188538437&tid=43164

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188327307&tid=43164

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the day I'll give up this game will come for sure

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sim enter real hockey ...

https://www.iihf.com/pdf/748/ihm748a13_74_3_0
https://www.iihf.com/pdf/748/ihm748b04_74_3_0

... or maybe everything is ok with our sim 🤔 ?

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188584423&tid=43164

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188595040&tid=43164

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188595050&tid=43164
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188532412&tid=43164
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=188562742&tid=43164 (U18)

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oh yeah! hit me baby one more time!

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Unfortunately, SIM screwed up in both CE semifinals last night:




Romanian players fell on the ice like bowls, like some flakes in the wind, you name it. Our players don't fall like that! Trust me, I know what I am talking about. I saw 30 matches in the last 7 days. I just can't watch the match again. It is abominable!




Turkey lost in an unfair mode. The goal was scored after 95 seconds! Ever since then, the fate of the match was decided!

I strongly believe that European Championship sabotages the better teams. Slovakia won CE 2020 unexpected, after they beated Turkey twice. In this CE 2021, we defetead Slovakia with 4-1 after 21-12 shots.

So, it is just lottery! Nothing more!

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If the crew only changes to the best of 2 matches, it will be fair?
Apply in qualifiers in the series and playoffs in the cups. Then is OK.

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zlatan_zlatan wrote:
If the crew only changes to the best of 2 matches, it will be fair?
Apply in qualifiers in the series and playoffs in the cups. Then is OK.


In my opinion, this will be a better solution that is easy to do. Luck should stay in the game, but let it happen at least twice in a row.

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sabiutza wrote:


last night with the same tactic:

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sabiutza wrote:
check this guys:



2 days ago, with the same tactic:

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This is how I lost Superliga Nationala in this season 😭

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I totally disagree with this match, too!

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Your home tactic was good with Samara; but, bad away.
Your away tactic was good with Lekparken, but, bad home.
I suspect that a tactic that is good home is not good away.
It was the same tactic with Samara and Lekparken? If yes, than, the result depend on opponent tactic: maybe he plays offensive or defensive; aggressive or passive; and the players on ice could count a little bit; a winger near center could play completely different than a winger near the edge of the field.
Do you have time to consider how the opponent will play? Do you watch his games on analyzer and adjust your tactic accordingly? Do you care about each line setup? Do you play 10-20 scout matches and adjust your tactic until you win most of the time(only the ones with the same setup home/away as the next official games; the others, you should ignore)? I don't have time or will to care about 1 league game every 3 days; you play 16 games a day..... I guess you made a tactic good for all and don't care too much about results. Maybe if it is a final of world cup, you could care more.
In the end... it is a dice game; you try to buy some good players and made a universal tactic good for all and pray the dice will be 6-6 :D

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romanasu wrote:
Your home tactic was good with Samara; but, bad away.
Your away tactic was good with Lekparken, but, bad home.
I suspect that a tactic that is good home is not good away.
It was the same tactic with Samara and Lekparken?

yes, I used the same tactic, I already told that

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If yes, than, the result depend on opponent tactic: maybe he plays offensive or defensive; aggressive or passive; and the players on ice could count a little bit; a winger near center could play completely different than a winger near the edge of the field.

I really don't think he used different tactics!

romanasu wrote:
Do you have time to consider how the opponent will play? Do you watch his games on analyzer and adjust your tactic accordingly? Do you care about each line setup? Do you play 10-20 scout matches and adjust your tactic until you win most of the time(only the ones with the same setup home/away as the next official games; the others, you should ignore)? I don't have time or will to care about 1 league game every 3 days;

Yes, I prepare very well my matches. Including what the opponent is playing and mostly, his players. Yes, I care a lot about each line setup. Scout matches are a totally crap. I used them last season and it was a total failure.

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you play 16 games a day..... I guess you made a tactic good for all and don't care too much about results. .

NO, I don't have an universal tactic. For example, I used 8 different tactics 2 days ago

romanasu wrote:
Maybe if it is a final of world cup, you could care more

When it comes to national team, I care about ALL matches, no matter what the competition or group/playoff matches


romanasu wrote:
In the end... it is a dice game; you try to buy some good players and made a universal tactic good for all and pray the dice will be 6-6 :D

Yeah, some of us use this method and they are happy

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