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MZ Hockey SIM improvement

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Dear CREW,

Gathering together from countries around the world, we would like to unite in one reason and ask you to upgrade hockey SIM. During last years we have been improving our teams, optimizing strategy and tactics to fit into sim but even sharing experience and knowledge we observe growing unbalance and irrational results. The game become very lottery and it is hard to continue develop of players and teams without stabilization of sim engine itself.

The most critical points are:
- The advantage when playing away
- Return from shorthanded game to 5 on 5 play
- Unrealistic one on one play
- Short cross-passing (across ice) by defenders
- Scout games without any correlation into "normal" games
- Balance of players skills

As society we are open for discussion and any support you would need from our side to make next step for ManagerZone Hockey SIM … it is about time

We will ask all manager to sign below voluntary to show how many of us care about hockey and would like to continue compete between each other for next years …

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edit: raffe74
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my jockey party a robbery? how offensive XD

I was really lucky, I also feel that we have grown the Argentine community in general.

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[B&IFF]
President
Came to this post after my last league game. Killer

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Below is my match today in the senior league.

I am just very disgusted! I feel like throwing up! 🤢

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My score today in u21 national. I have the strongest team in the group, this team is way worse! how can score like this happens. It's terrible, disgrase ! You build your team, beat the better teams easily, and lose like this? Jesus Christ...When this will be stopped? I know surprises can happen but not like this !

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There is one thing I wish to see gone with the current sim.
The goalie catches the puck behind the net. It's like it doesn't exist.
A forward can't really attack behind the net with the current sim.
O hope this bug will be eliminated.
Thank you.

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mihairo wrote:
There is one thing I wish to see gone with the current sim.
The goalie catches the puck behind the net. It's like it doesn't exist.
A forward can't really attack behind the net with the current sim.
O hope this bug will be eliminated.
Thank you.


+1

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182567616&tid=31125

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no words for scores like this. And I don't care about the bull ..... that some people say "surprises happense". This is no surprise, this is a joke.

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lukaszsz182 wrote:
no words for scores like this. And I don't care about the bull ..... that some people say "surprises happense". This is no surprise, this is a joke.


It only remains to wait another 70 seasons for them to adjust these details XD

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- Hey Dexter, what the hell is wrong with you??

- My hair is on fire, my hair is on fire, my hair is on fire, my hair is on fire...!!!

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''away advantage gone" :D

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On this day in 2012

Champions league
Celtic - Barcelona

2 goals 1
5 attempts 23
5 on target 14
11% possession 89%
166 total passes 955

Not always better value team is winning ;)

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Hello.

I agree that not always the best team wins, but it doesn't happen to the same team every day.

A game like Celtic - Barcelona is something you don't see 3 times in a lifetime.
You can't make a rule out of it. It happens.
Yesterday I lost to a 7 mil team playing in div.2. My team is valued at 14 mil. The shots were 27-12 and the score 2-3.
A defeat like that is once in a season. If it is a one-timer, I can live with that. But is it? Because at the start of the season I lost 1-4 to a friend of mine who's having U23 squad valued at 9 mil. Also, the shots were mostly from my side.

Maybe it was a tactical issue. I don't want to go in that direction.
The point is that we can't expect to win all the matches. If we win most of them when we are far better than our opponent, then no-one will complain.

I hope the sim will get better in time, but we have to agree that now it is better than more than 3 seasons ago. There's always room for better.

Good luck and enjoy!

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Well this is what happened to Australia in the most recent Seniors World Cup

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182335117
Here I can accept a loss like this, because I feel games like this should be able to go either way

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182335118
In this we were well outclassed and should have lost but at least this margin and probably more.

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182335121
But here we got screw over so badly it was ridiculous. We dominated and yet we couldn't score and lost 0-1. Results like this shouldn't happen.

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185292610&tid=31125

FU sim

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Hey, my friend.

If I may...
In this game you played against a strong opponent, ranked no. 11 in the World.
But in the same time, I saw maybe too many losses like that of your team. Have you considered making some tactical changes or improvements?

In the end, good or bad, the sim is the same for everyone.

Take care.
Best regards,
Mihai.

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Check this match: 185225116
Teams
ScoreChiorasti FCM1 - 1HC Toporu
Value:1 946 435 EUR 13 584 280 EUR
Avg age:23.3328.29
Avg height:183.19180.38
Avg weight:86.3382.24
Avg salary:1 848 EUR13 443 EUR
Players count:2121
generated by www.managerzone.eu .

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luckman wrote:
Check this match: 185225116
Teams
ScoreChiorasti FCM1 - 1HC Toporu
Value:1 946 435 EUR 13 584 280 EUR
Avg age:23.3328.29
Avg height:183.19180.38
Avg weight:86.3382.24
Avg salary:1 848 EUR13 443 EUR
Players count:2121
generated by www.managerzone.eu .


I am absolutely speachless :((

I have no words!

I should have defeated him... :((

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English Premier League team value

1 Liverpool - €1.12bn
2 Manchester City - €1.06bn
3 Chelsea FC - €803.65m
4 Manchester United - €738.35m
5 Tottenham Hotspur - €719.65m
6 Arsenal FC - €554.00m
7 Everton FC - €491.50m
8 Leicester City - €468.50m
9 Wolverhampton Wanderers - €428.20m
10 Aston Villa - €331.30m
11 Newcastle United - €278.70m
12 West Ham United - €271.35m
13 Brighton & Hove Albion - €248.85m
14 Southampton FC - €239.55m
15 Crystal Palace - €222.90m
16 Fulham FC - €211.00m
17 Leeds United - €194.48m
18 Sheffield United - €171.40m
19 Burnley FC - €151.65m
20 West Bromwich Albion - €132.35m

2 weeks ago Liverpool should beat Bruley and Manchester Utd, Sheffield Utd


Liverpool - Burley
0 goals 1
72% Ball Possession 28%
27 Goal Attempts 6

Manchester Utd, - Sheffield Utd
1 goals 2
76% Ball Possession 24%
16 Goal Attempts 5

You can find every day games like this in real sport.
Compare the last matches in your leagues or cups and then see what is happening in real sport. For me, the sim is more realistic than some people think

Don't worry, be happy and enjoy playing sim whatever it is ;)

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sabiutza wrote:
I am absolutely speachless :((

I have no words!

I should have defeated him... :((


This has to be a game BUG. This match should be reported !

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lukaszsz182 wrote:
This has to be a game BUG. This match should be reported !


I thought I have an easy group in National Cup. Now I'm making real worries for the playoff :(

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185225636&tid=79307

Statystyki pomeczowe RTS Ast
Gole 3 4
Strzały 24 6
Wznowienia wygrane 21 9
Procent wznowień 70% 30%
Obrony 2 22
Liczba kar 0 0

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185222853&tid=79307

Statystyki pomeczowe TLN RTS
Gole 3 3
Strzały 5 23
Wznowienia wygrane 10 16
Procent wznowień 38% 62%
Obrony 14 2
Liczba kar 2

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the robbery of every day

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182567649&tid=31125

naturally, the sim an official cup match plays you against

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I noticed that in National Cups and other privat cups (like Face-Off) there are some very strange results

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185226803&tid=43164
Matchfakta BHC MEAN
Mål 4 3
Skott 8 26
Tekningar Vunna 13 19
Tekningsprocent 41% 59%
Räddningar 22 4
Antal Utvisningar 0 0

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=183703080&tid=983

Matchfakta Ljn SSKD
Mål 2 0
Skott 8 22
Tekningar Vunna 15 11
Tekningsprocent 58% 42%
Räddningar 21 5
Antal Utvisningar 0 1

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185121206&tid=983

Matchfakta SSKD Poa
Mål 1 1
Skott 30 6
Tekningar Vunna 15 8
Tekningsprocent 65% 35%
Räddningar 5 29
Antal Utvisningar 0 1
Statistikberäkning pågår

It should represent hockey this but it's embarrassing. Those who have good teams have to endure these random embarrassing results for everyone to think it's fun to play the game? Of course, the best team should not always win, but there are many such matches here. Difficult to circumvent this regardless of team or tactics.

Some games is more like lottery without logic.

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in each post I usually put when "the sim doesn't want me to win".
in this case it was in my favor,

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185277609&tid=31125

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masterinho1986 wrote:
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185225636&tid=79307

Statystyki pomeczowe RTS Ast
Gole 3 4
Strzały 24 6
Wznowienia wygrane 21 9
Procent wznowień 70% 30%
Obrony 2 22
Liczba kar 0 0



zlatan_zlatan wrote:

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185121206&tid=983

Matchfakta SSKD Poa
Mål 1 1
Skott 30 6
Tekningar Vunna 15 8
Tekningsprocent 65% 35%
Räddningar 5 29
Antal Utvisningar 0 1
Statistikberäkning pågår


Nooooooooo that bad

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I'm in agreement as well

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jokes continue, that not even funny any more. scandal !

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185220109&tid=6874

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Yes, later or sooner crew need to take our feedback or they lose on this not comment approach.

This match as like at least 2-3/Day for me.

So maybe we need to do more work and crew use GPA to help.

Also when we test we need more games then 10/week.

Maybe crew take like 10-15 GPA and digg in sim more in test server.

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zlatan_zlatan wrote:
Yes, later or sooner crew need to take our feedback or they lose on this not comment approach.

This match as like at least 2-3/Day for me.

So maybe we need to do more work and crew use GPA to help.

Also when we test we need more games then 10/week.

Maybe crew take like 10-15 GPA and digg in sim more in test server.


If you are looking for gpa I join, I think there are no Argentines

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Simulator in hockey is too old. We need sim update. The away advantage is still there I have a feeling!

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lukaszsz182 wrote:
Simulator in hockey is too old. We need sim update. The away advantage is still there I have a feeling!


Yes in Sweden we have stat and its still more away win then home. And also more away goals etc.. Se this link:

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=forum&sub=topic&topic_id=12767968&forum_id=247&sport=hockey

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185346859&tid=6874

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185382416&tid=79307
semifinal

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185261134&tid=82688

no com...

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defeat against a team with players between 23-28 years old

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185391968&tid=31125

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https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185373130

The last stages for that team were pretty much like that. It feels like the sim let him down at the last hurdle .. not very nice :D , I'd be disappointed .

As the sim improvement is pretty much out of the question, maybe they will improve the other aspect of this game. Fingers crossed :)

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cosminacho wrote:
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185373130

The last stages for that team were pretty much like that. It feels like the sim let him down at the last hurdle .. not very nice :D , I'd be disappointed .

As the sim improvement is pretty much out of the question, maybe they will improve the other aspect of this game. Fingers crossed :)


💪👈🏻✌

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alnarp it's not a bad team.

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it doesn't matter if it's good or bad

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😥

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So you think you should win because you had four more shots om goal? Have you ever watched a real hockeygame?

masterinho1986 wrote:
it doesn't matter if it's good or bad

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dribbel wrote:
So you think you should win because you had four more shots om goal? Have you ever watched a real hockeygame?


Oh ok ... I thought it was soccer. Hockey? What is this?
It is not normal for these results to happen every day

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others from last week

semifinal again
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185487121&tid=79307

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185277446&tid=79307
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185421509&tid=79307
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185322256&tid=79307
https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=185357552&tid=79307

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masterinho1986 wrote:
Oh ok ... I thought it was soccer. Hockey? What is this?
It is not normal for these results to happen every day


But 18-13 in shots and 0-4 isn´t unusually in the game of hockey. It happens a lot and last time I check you dont win games by shooting. Its how many goals you can make that counts. Sometimes I get the feeling here that a lot of managers believe that the team taht fire away most shoots automatically should win the game.

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dribbel wrote:
But 18-13 in shots and 0-4 isn´t unusually in the game of hockey. It happens a lot and last time I check you dont win games by shooting. Its how many goals you can make that counts. Sometimes I get the feeling here that a lot of managers believe that the team taht fire away most shoots automatically should win the game.


if you lose every day like this, you will change your mind

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dribbel wrote:
So you think you should win because you had four more shots om goal? Have you ever watched a real hockeygame?


😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

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Another big problem from the game is the training,since 1-2 months the training is very slow (5star trainer) im sure they program this with these new feature speed training etc. You can forget i buy your package!It’s not enough the membership??If this will happen goodbye auf wiedersehen
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