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Mr Harry Redknapp

By jamiescfc2010 - 15-04-2012 21:04

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I don't know about you guys but I think Harry Redknapp whatever you say about him about his recent court appearance this, that and the other, I think Harry would be perfect choice for England manager and the FA shouldn't have to wait to get him in and not a bloody foreigner in place of an English manager to take us the Euros. I also know about the players like Terry, Cole ect can be bit of a handful but we need someone who can take charge not like Capello did for us during the last few years since he was manager as a disgrace at the World Cup. DiscussI don't know about you guys but I think Harry Redknapp whatever you say about him about his recent court appearance this, that and the other, I think Harry would be perfect choice for England manager and the FA shouldn't have to wait to get him in and not a bloody foreigner in place of an English manager to take us the Euros. I also know about the players like Terry, Cole ect can be bit of a handful but we need someone who can take charge not like Capello did for us during the last few years since he was manager as a disgrace at the World Cup. Discuss

 

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Re: Mr Harry Redknapp

By xellu - 15-04-2012 22:01

I think Redknapp would be a good coach for England, but you can't say that Capello was bad. Apart from the World Cup, he did quite well in my opinion.I think Redknapp would be a good coach for England, but you can't say that Capello was bad. Apart from the World Cup, he did quite well in my opinion.

Re: Mr Harry Redknapp

By kingjaime - 16-04-2012 21:04

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I don't think Capello failed at discipline, if anything that's always been one of his strengths. He was a poor general man-manager though, and limited on tactics and coaching. It was the same mistake as made with appointing Eriksson; looking at club success without properly understanding what had brought that success. In both cases, fundamental was a lot of activity, and high amounts, in the transfer market. On the subject of Redknapp, I'd find his appointment underwhelming. I dislike his coy reaction to questions about it, with his general unwillingness to commit to the club having harmed Spurs' season I think. But that's a digression from the basic fact I don't especially rate Redknapp as an especially talented coach or, perhaps surprisingly, man-manager. Sure some players will love him and put in top effort but he's got a history of almost inexplicably failing to recognize or utilize talent, most recently perhaps with Pienaar and Dos Santos, perhaps also Pavlyuchenko. The former two had/have 7 league appearances between them for Spurs this season. Dos Santos after being runner-up for best young player at the 2010 World Cup and scoring goal of the tournament at the 2011 CONCACAF Gold Cup and Pienaar having been in awesome form with Everton from match 1 of his loan. Roy Hodgson, Martin O'Neill and, let's really dream, Jose Mourinho, all preferred by me.I don't think Capello failed at discipline, if anything that's always been one of his strengths. He was a poor general man-manager though, and limited on tactics and coaching. It was the same mistake as made with appointing Eriksson; looking at club success without properly understanding what had brought that success. In both cases, fundamental was a lot of activity, and high amounts, in the transfer market.

On the subject of Redknapp, I'd find his appointment underwhelming. I dislike his coy reaction to questions about it, with his general unwillingness to commit to the club having harmed Spurs' season I think. But that's a digression from the basic fact I don't especially rate Redknapp as an especially talented coach or, perhaps surprisingly, man-manager. Sure some players will love him and put in top effort but he's got a history of almost inexplicably failing to recognize or utilize talent, most recently perhaps with Pienaar and Dos Santos, perhaps also Pavlyuchenko. The former two had/have 7 league appearances between them for Spurs this season. Dos Santos after being runner-up for best young player at the 2010 World Cup and scoring goal of the tournament at the 2011 CONCACAF Gold Cup and Pienaar having been in awesome form with Everton from match 1 of his loan.

Roy Hodgson, Martin O'Neill and, let's really dream, Jose Mourinho, all preferred by me.

Odg: Mr Harry Redknapp

By ajant23 - 18-04-2012 00:39

Redknapp is a drunk...Redknapp is a drunk...

Re: Mr Harry Redknapp

By matttombstone - 23-04-2012 18:15

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I wouldn't say Capello was a failure, with a 67% win rate that's rather good. Bu he did flop when it was most important. I reckon Harry will go to England, I can see it. Up until Capello resigned Spurs were on excellent form, on a winning streak, 5 points behind top spot and were looking to have cemented 3rd spot. Since then, it's been 1 win in 9, poor performances and lack of ambition. Bale and Parker have really spear headed anything recently with no one else doing much. As a Spurs fan, I'm a bit mixed about whether to keep Redknapp. In terms of his time with us, he's brought us Champions League football and built the best side I've seen in my life time, whilst having us compete for the title up until Capello's resignation. However, since Capello's resignation it's clear he's not focused and if he really wants the England job, which is pretty obvious now, he should leave now, to give us any hope of catching Newcastle and getting the Champions League spot, I can't see him winning the remaining fixtures, he's managed 1 win in 9 recently, which is extremely poor considering our early form. Problem is, who do we get to replace him? We sacked Jol and brought in Ramos, and that turned into a disaster. I don't want Capello. I can't see someone like Mourhinio or Pep leaving the likes of Real and Barca to come to Spurs, if they're to leave they'd go for Chelsea, City or United. I like O'Neil, but he's recently taken the helm at Sunderland so would he leave after such a little amount of time? Moyes I think is a great manager and deserves credit for what he's done and doing at Everton, but he's been there for a hell of a time, would he leave or would he remain loyal to a club where his future is pretty much secure? I can't see Pardew leaving Newcastle if they are in the champions league next season, only to City, United or Arsenal, he's got a chance in the Champions league which he's earnt himself, why lose that to go to Spurs? Hodgeson, well he didn't do great at Liverpool, but wasn't given the time, would we give him the time given our recent history? I doubt it. The only one I think that would be available and would suit us is Martinez, I think he's done a fantastic job in England. Deserves a massive amount of credit for what Swansea are today, and he's done an excellent job at Wigan on a shoe string budget, if he keeps them up again this season he's beaten all the odds and expectations once again. I think if he's given the chance at a big club with a bigger budget, he could transform Spurs into something special. But again, would you leave a club where your future is seemingly secure having battled relegation for the past few seasons? Di Matteo's done a great job with Chelsea, I think he'll get it full time if he takes them to the Champions League final, but it may take him winning it to get it. Plus the Chelsea past, I can't see him taking the job on. So there's few I can think of. Hodgeson Martinez Jol - Hugely loved by Spurs fan, would he come back after how he was treat? Moyes O'Neil AVB - Available, but although I like him, don't think he's ready for a job where champions league is an aim. Personally, I'd like to see Moyes or O'Neil, failing them I'd be curious to see what Martinez can do, huge respect for him. But I doubt it'll be any I've just named, probably end up being some foreign manager who's done well in a foreign league but won't adapt well to the English game, Ramos style.I wouldn't say Capello was a failure, with a 67% win rate that's rather good. Bu he did flop when it was most important.

I reckon Harry will go to England, I can see it. Up until Capello resigned Spurs were on excellent form, on a winning streak, 5 points behind top spot and were looking to have cemented 3rd spot. Since then, it's been 1 win in 9, poor performances and lack of ambition. Bale and Parker have really spear headed anything recently with no one else doing much.

As a Spurs fan, I'm a bit mixed about whether to keep Redknapp. In terms of his time with us, he's brought us Champions League football and built the best side I've seen in my life time, whilst having us compete for the title up until Capello's resignation. However, since Capello's resignation it's clear he's not focused and if he really wants the England job, which is pretty obvious now, he should leave now, to give us any hope of catching Newcastle and getting the Champions League spot, I can't see him winning the remaining fixtures, he's managed 1 win in 9 recently, which is extremely poor considering our early form.

Problem is, who do we get to replace him? We sacked Jol and brought in Ramos, and that turned into a disaster. I don't want Capello. I can't see someone like Mourhinio or Pep leaving the likes of Real and Barca to come to Spurs, if they're to leave they'd go for Chelsea, City or United. I like O'Neil, but he's recently taken the helm at Sunderland so would he leave after such a little amount of time? Moyes I think is a great manager and deserves credit for what he's done and doing at Everton, but he's been there for a hell of a time, would he leave or would he remain loyal to a club where his future is pretty much secure? I can't see Pardew leaving Newcastle if they are in the champions league next season, only to City, United or Arsenal, he's got a chance in the Champions league which he's earnt himself, why lose that to go to Spurs? Hodgeson, well he didn't do great at Liverpool, but wasn't given the time, would we give him the time given our recent history? I doubt it.

The only one I think that would be available and would suit us is Martinez, I think he's done a fantastic job in England. Deserves a massive amount of credit for what Swansea are today, and he's done an excellent job at Wigan on a shoe string budget, if he keeps them up again this season he's beaten all the odds and expectations once again. I think if he's given the chance at a big club with a bigger budget, he could transform Spurs into something special. But again, would you leave a club where your future is seemingly secure having battled relegation for the past few seasons?

Di Matteo's done a great job with Chelsea, I think he'll get it full time if he takes them to the Champions League final, but it may take him winning it to get it. Plus the Chelsea past, I can't see him taking the job on.

So there's few I can think of.

Hodgeson
Martinez
Jol - Hugely loved by Spurs fan, would he come back after how he was treat?
Moyes
O'Neil
AVB - Available, but although I like him, don't think he's ready for a job where champions league is an aim.

Personally, I'd like to see Moyes or O'Neil, failing them I'd be curious to see what Martinez can do, huge respect for him. But I doubt it'll be any I've just named, probably end up being some foreign manager who's done well in a foreign league but won't adapt well to the English game, Ramos style.

Re: Mr Harry Redknapp

By apwall21 - 24-04-2012 00:50

Sheesh Matt, why aren't you coaching?Sheesh Matt, why aren't you coaching?

Re: Mr Harry Redknapp

By apwall21 - 24-04-2012 00:53

Sorry, that may sound wrong. I mean, knowing what you know about all these coaches, you gotta have a solid idea of what it takes to be good. You should get yourself on with a small club somewhere, see where it goes.Sorry, that may sound wrong. I mean, knowing what you know about all these coaches, you gotta have a solid idea of what it takes to be good. You should get yourself on with a small club somewhere, see where it goes.

Re: Mr Harry Redknapp

By matttombstone - 24-04-2012 01:33

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Haha, I'd love to. Give me the England job, I'd do it right! To be fair, Harry really needs to figure out how he wants to end his career. Does he want to go and manage England? He may get some improvements in performances, but it's still the same England team which fails time and time again. He won't win the World cup with them, nor the Euro's. He may get them to a Quarter Final, but that's probably about it. So long as it's the same faces time and time again, it's not going to work any better, there really needs to be an overhaul. I think AVB would be a good England manager, sure he flopped at Chelsea, but he was trying to do it his way and the player power is just rediculous there. Give him England and he has more control, the future needs to be considered here now. It'll take a drastic change to get any real results, Harry wouldn't bring those kind of changes, I don't think AVB would even bring as big a change. England needs a coach with a fresh view with a good plan. Give it to me, I'd sort it out, even as a Welshman! What I'd do is I'd set up regional trials, I'd have scouts working on these trials and bring the 10 best players of each position (Goal keepers, full back, centre backs, etc) to an expanded regional trial (i.e. Lancashire, Cumbria, etc would become North West) to which I'd go to. They'd be 3 day boot camps open to players of all clubs. Eventually it'd be a National boot camp, 7 days over seas to test them on their abilities on their positions and see what they can offer. Eventually I'd narrow it down to a short list of 22 players, enough for two full starting 11s. They'd get tried out in friendlies to find out the best of the best and to figure out starters. If it came to it and I found the right players to make an excellent team, I could be taking an England team to the world cup without a single premier league player involved, I could have Tomas Thompson of Chester Amatures playing as the striker. I wouldn't allow myself to be bullied to pick the likes of Rooney, I'd pick a team, a solid set of players who I'd have work together to become a solid team, rather than a bunch of over paid names. That's the kind of different thinking England needs. Taking experienced premier league players has failed time and time and time again, try a new initiative, you never know, you could have some college team kid wearing the 2014 world cup medal. That's my perspective anyhow, there's only a few current players who I'd really take at the moment from the PL. I'd take Joe Heart (For the fact he's probably the best keeper in the PL, and arguably one of the best around these days) Kyle Walker (For the fact he's fast, works exceptionally well and has a decent cross on him) and Scott Parker (Excellent work ethnic as a DM, I'd look to make him a Centre Back). Otherwise, I can't really think of many others I'd take. I'm the kind of guy who'd force Gareth Bale to face a fast Left Back rather than my best, I'd drop the defensive abilities just for the pace to give him that pressure, that would work best, someone who can keep up with him and put a block in, rather than someone who can stand in his way and try to tackle him, but once he's round him then the defender may as well stand still.Haha, I'd love to. Give me the England job, I'd do it right!

To be fair, Harry really needs to figure out how he wants to end his career. Does he want to go and manage England? He may get some improvements in performances, but it's still the same England team which fails time and time again. He won't win the World cup with them, nor the Euro's. He may get them to a Quarter Final, but that's probably about it. So long as it's the same faces time and time again, it's not going to work any better, there really needs to be an overhaul.

I think AVB would be a good England manager, sure he flopped at Chelsea, but he was trying to do it his way and the player power is just rediculous there. Give him England and he has more control, the future needs to be considered here now.

It'll take a drastic change to get any real results, Harry wouldn't bring those kind of changes, I don't think AVB would even bring as big a change. England needs a coach with a fresh view with a good plan.

Give it to me, I'd sort it out, even as a Welshman! What I'd do is I'd set up regional trials, I'd have scouts working on these trials and bring the 10 best players of each position (Goal keepers, full back, centre backs, etc) to an expanded regional trial (i.e. Lancashire, Cumbria, etc would become North West) to which I'd go to. They'd be 3 day boot camps open to players of all clubs. Eventually it'd be a National boot camp, 7 days over seas to test them on their abilities on their positions and see what they can offer. Eventually I'd narrow it down to a short list of 22 players, enough for two full starting 11s. They'd get tried out in friendlies to find out the best of the best and to figure out starters.

If it came to it and I found the right players to make an excellent team, I could be taking an England team to the world cup without a single premier league player involved, I could have Tomas Thompson of Chester Amatures playing as the striker. I wouldn't allow myself to be bullied to pick the likes of Rooney, I'd pick a team, a solid set of players who I'd have work together to become a solid team, rather than a bunch of over paid names. That's the kind of different thinking England needs. Taking experienced premier league players has failed time and time and time again, try a new initiative, you never know, you could have some college team kid wearing the 2014 world cup medal.

That's my perspective anyhow, there's only a few current players who I'd really take at the moment from the PL. I'd take Joe Heart (For the fact he's probably the best keeper in the PL, and arguably one of the best around these days) Kyle Walker (For the fact he's fast, works exceptionally well and has a decent cross on him) and Scott Parker (Excellent work ethnic as a DM, I'd look to make him a Centre Back). Otherwise, I can't really think of many others I'd take. I'm the kind of guy who'd force Gareth Bale to face a fast Left Back rather than my best, I'd drop the defensive abilities just for the pace to give him that pressure, that would work best, someone who can keep up with him and put a block in, rather than someone who can stand in his way and try to tackle him, but once he's round him then the defender may as well stand still.

Odg: Mr Harry Redknapp

By ajant23 - 24-04-2012 02:16

apwall what the hell that you did, someone help this man...apwall what the hell that you did, someone help this man...

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By apwall21 - 25-04-2012 00:07

I'm telling ya ajant, the guy has the ideas. He just needs the team. Matt, there has to be a youth club around you where you can start in. Tell them, when you come on, that you're gonna be coaching in the PL w/in 15 years, and expect to be running the National before 20. Who knows, you might even follow some of your youth players there..I'm telling ya ajant, the guy has the ideas. He just needs the team.

Matt, there has to be a youth club around you where you can start in. Tell them, when you come on, that you're gonna be coaching in the PL w/in 15 years, and expect to be running the National before 20. Who knows, you might even follow some of your youth players there..

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By matttombstone - 25-04-2012 01:00

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I'd love to, I've got the qualifications to do it. Problem is the time, I'm in a full time job which has split shift patterns (namely 11:30 - 14:30 then back in at 22:30 till 02:30, normally 4 days on 4 days off), plus I'm looking for a second permanent job in coach driving to fill the gap in those days. I'm also the area manager for Morecambe in the Community First Responders for the NHS and North West Ambulance Service on a voluntary, completely unpaid basis, and I'm also a Coastguard Rescue Officer on a call out system and training every 3rd Tuesday of the month, plus voluntary patrols, etc. Throw in the fact my friend and I today applied to be Army Cadet instructors, I'm a rather busy man =P I do have the ambition though, and would relish the opportunity to become a coach, problem is there's not a great deal of opportunities here, there's Morecambe Football Club or Lancaster Football Club within close proximity, other teams like Kendal Town and Fleetwood and Blackpool are close by but involve a minimum 30 mins commute. Give me half a chance and I'll deliver half a mile, but who's going to take the risk? I can't even progress at work, I'm made to look an idiot, whereas in reality I know my job arguably better than the managers themselves. So motivations low too...I'd love to, I've got the qualifications to do it. Problem is the time, I'm in a full time job which has split shift patterns (namely 11:30 - 14:30 then back in at 22:30 till 02:30, normally 4 days on 4 days off), plus I'm looking for a second permanent job in coach driving to fill the gap in those days. I'm also the area manager for Morecambe in the Community First Responders for the NHS and North West Ambulance Service on a voluntary, completely unpaid basis, and I'm also a Coastguard Rescue Officer on a call out system and training every 3rd Tuesday of the month, plus voluntary patrols, etc. Throw in the fact my friend and I today applied to be Army Cadet instructors, I'm a rather busy man =P

I do have the ambition though, and would relish the opportunity to become a coach, problem is there's not a great deal of opportunities here, there's Morecambe Football Club or Lancaster Football Club within close proximity, other teams like Kendal Town and Fleetwood and Blackpool are close by but involve a minimum 30 mins commute. Give me half a chance and I'll deliver half a mile, but who's going to take the risk? I can't even progress at work, I'm made to look an idiot, whereas in reality I know my job arguably better than the managers themselves. So motivations low too...

Odg: Mr Harry Redknapp

By ajant23 - 25-04-2012 04:04

When do you sleep...When do you sleep...

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By grinner - 25-04-2012 09:25

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Coach - Coach Driver - whats the difference really? ;)Coach - Coach Driver - whats the difference really? ;)

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By matttombstone - 25-04-2012 10:59

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Haha, I grinned at that one....... =PHaha, I grinned at that one....... =P

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By ajant23 - 25-04-2012 13:16

hehehehhehehehehehhehe

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By ajant23 - 25-04-2012 15:28

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00468/harry_redknapp_mod_468508S1.jpg lol lead englend to finalshttp://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00468/harry_redknapp_mod_468508S1.jpg
lol lead englend to finals

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By apwall21 - 27-04-2012 03:22

I solved it. An Army Cadet team. Cheers!I solved it. An Army Cadet team.
Cheers!

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By jamie1976 - 27-04-2012 09:33

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Ian Holloway :-)Ian Holloway :-)

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By potatohead - 28-04-2012 13:40

Don't think Capello flopped, more that fans/media believe the English players are far better than they really are. Redknapp, took Spurs from being relegation threatened, sure, but look at what's happened to Spurs recently.Don't think Capello flopped, more that fans/media believe the English players are far better than they really are.

Redknapp, took Spurs from being relegation threatened, sure, but look at what's happened to Spurs recently.

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By matttombstone - 29-04-2012 12:45

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Mr Potatohead, it's all been since Capello quit England and the talks of Redknapp taking over came. Up until then Spurs were 10 wins out of 11, and 5 points behind United who were 3 behind City. We were 10 clear of Arsenal as well. The minute Capello quit I think is the time Redknapp agreed to become the next England manager and has a silent contract signed and secured, that's what I think anyway. All kept quiet, and he's lost interest in Spurs, the reason I think he's not left yet is because how we stuck by him with the tax evasion claims, the heart op, etc this year. I reckon he stayed back to get us the FA cup as well, but by the time we got to that point, our playes confidence is left in tatters and the belief is gone. Wouldn't be suprised to see Blackburn pull it off today.Mr Potatohead, it's all been since Capello quit England and the talks of Redknapp taking over came. Up until then Spurs were 10 wins out of 11, and 5 points behind United who were 3 behind City. We were 10 clear of Arsenal as well. The minute Capello quit I think is the time Redknapp agreed to become the next England manager and has a silent contract signed and secured, that's what I think anyway. All kept quiet, and he's lost interest in Spurs, the reason I think he's not left yet is because how we stuck by him with the tax evasion claims, the heart op, etc this year. I reckon he stayed back to get us the FA cup as well, but by the time we got to that point, our playes confidence is left in tatters and the belief is gone. Wouldn't be suprised to see Blackburn pull it off today.

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By safctillidie - 30-04-2012 17:41

England arent going anywhere unless we find someone with the bottle to drop the ageing stars and go with the young, i know chelsea tried and failed, but look at germany, they were brilliant. time to let the next generation in i think, most of the current squad are nowhere near what theyre cracked up to be. if scott parker was any other nationality and they babbled on about him like they do here we would laugh our socks off at them..........England arent going anywhere unless we find someone with the bottle to drop the ageing stars and go with the young, i know chelsea tried and failed, but look at germany, they were brilliant. time to let the next generation in i think, most of the current squad are nowhere near what theyre cracked up to be. if scott parker was any other nationality and they babbled on about him like they do here we would laugh our socks off at them..........

 

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