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Steve Keen watch.....

By jamie1976 - 21-12-2011 14:04

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So when do we think he will be fired, today? After Christmas, New Year? My guess is February the 11th 2012 for the bullet to come for him....So when do we think he will be fired, today? After Christmas, New Year?

My guess is February the 11th 2012 for the bullet to come for him....

 

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Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 21-12-2011 17:58

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he will never go the muppet is bulletproof...but its more a case of kean wont quit and lose his compensation and Venkys wont sack him as they wont / cant afford to pay his compensation, they dont care if we go down, they are not interested anymore and I dont care what lies they come out with, they haven't been near the club since September, they said they would pay for fams to go out to India in October, then said fans would have to be and they would reimburse them, they are still waiting for their money, What ever happened to Premier Leagues owners 'fit and proper' test BS! Talk has it Venkys wont pay up to get rid of Kean or for decent transfers and they didnt want Rovers, they wanted a Premier League team and their mummy bought rovers and one son wants to go for it and one doesnt to any funds are locked until either both agree to go forward or get out. Idiots, ruined Rovers - we are Portsmouth part 2. Thanks Walkers trust for selling to the first interested party that came along just so you could cash in and get out. Barclays allegedly want £10million from Rovers, we sold Phil Jones for 16million and bought Scott Dann for 6mill Petrovic, Vukcevic and Yakuba for peanuts so where has this 10million gone? Last January they were going to spend 20million and nothing then 25 million last summer and nothing. Redknapp says the abuse Kean gets is horrific but so is Kean's managerial record at Ewood, 7 wins and 20 defeats out of 38 games that is truly horrific. Kean's record makes him the worst manager in Premier League history even worse than Avram Grant! Kean Out Venkys Outhe will never go the muppet is bulletproof...but its more a case of kean wont quit and lose his compensation and Venkys wont sack him as they wont / cant afford to pay his compensation, they dont care if we go down, they are not interested anymore and I dont care what lies they come out with, they haven't been near the club since September, they said they would pay for fams to go out to India in October, then said fans would have to be and they would reimburse them, they are still waiting for their money, What ever happened to Premier Leagues owners 'fit and proper' test BS! Talk has it Venkys wont pay up to get rid of Kean or for decent transfers and they didnt want Rovers, they wanted a Premier League team and their mummy bought rovers and one son wants to go for it and one doesnt to any funds are locked until either both agree to go forward or get out. Idiots, ruined Rovers - we are Portsmouth part 2. Thanks Walkers trust for selling to the first interested party that came along just so you could cash in and get out. Barclays allegedly want £10million from Rovers, we sold Phil Jones for 16million and bought Scott Dann for 6mill Petrovic, Vukcevic and Yakuba for peanuts so where has this 10million gone? Last January they were going to spend 20million and nothing then 25 million last summer and nothing.

Redknapp says the abuse Kean gets is horrific but so is Kean's managerial record at Ewood, 7 wins and 20 defeats out of 38 games that is truly horrific. Kean's record makes him the worst manager in Premier League history even worse than Avram Grant!

Kean Out Venkys Out

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By jamie1976 - 21-12-2011 18:04

[ENG]

Avram Grant did very well at Chelsea :-) I do feel sorry for Rovers fans I must sayAvram Grant did very well at Chelsea :-)

I do feel sorry for Rovers fans I must say

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By jamiescfc2010 - 21-12-2011 23:01

[World]

I also feel sorry for you nomercurz you don't deserve this record and I hope Venkys smell the coffee and get rid of him soonI also feel sorry for you nomercurz you don't deserve this record and I hope Venkys smell the coffee and get rid of him soon

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By grinner - 21-12-2011 23:50

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It seems like there is no rest for Rovers fans as yet. Reading yesterday the names being thrown around as his replacement, including such wundermanagers as Graeme Souness, Alan Shearer and Avram Grant. Im sure Howard Wilkinson and Joe Kinnear are available for work too. I would be truly terrified if i was a Rovers fan, Venkys are by far one of the worst things to have happened to any football club in the history of the game, and the remaining walker family members should be ashamed of themselves for letting Jacks pride and joy turn into such a joke. The sooner they and any potential buyer like them get the hell out of football, the better. as for when, i reckon they will sack him next week, then refuse to pay him until he drags them into court over it.It seems like there is no rest for Rovers fans as yet. Reading yesterday the names being thrown around as his replacement, including such wundermanagers as Graeme Souness, Alan Shearer and Avram Grant. Im sure Howard Wilkinson and Joe Kinnear are available for work too. I would be truly terrified if i was a Rovers fan, Venkys are by far one of the worst things to have happened to any football club in the history of the game, and the remaining walker family members should be ashamed of themselves for letting Jacks pride and joy turn into such a joke.
The sooner they and any potential buyer like them get the hell out of football, the better.

as for when, i reckon they will sack him next week, then refuse to pay him until he drags them into court over it.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By kingjaime - 22-12-2011 01:39

[BVB]

Gary Megson, Paul Jewell, Gordon Strachan... Sven...? :-D So much talent about. (Although I really would probably prefer one of them to manage a club I like than Steve Kean.) I've never been a fan of Sam Allardyce but I'll always think it very wrong to have removed him, the way they did and the timing but more than anything the basic decision itself. Whatever style of football he'd employ, I have to say I'd have faith in him to never have a full season end in relegation. Steve Kean is a joke. Wormed his way in as part of Allardyce going, with zero experience as frontline manager anywhere and his only previous assistant manager experience alongside Chris Coleman, who is hardly the greatest mentor to be able to cite. My guess is, towards why he got the job and why he's continued in spite of his abject failure thus far... from a quote from Allardyce over choosing Kean as his assistant: "stood out above the rest through his personality, experience and knowledge of football at the highest level". Thus, my guess is that the owners of Venky's be somewhat ignorant about the truths of football and the football world, and somewhat disinterested, so are easily and willingly dazzled, if not duped, by Kean. I don't see Hughes going back without some serious assurances over transfer funds. Tony Parkes and then reassess depending on where they are for next season? Steve Bruce? Dave Jones? Alan Curbishley? If I were a Blackburn fan, I'd be happy to see Jones come in. Footnote: As others have said, and I think many of us said in early threads about Venky's takeover, horrible decision by the Family Trust to sell. This sort of farcical mess, not least on the financial side, is what Jack Walker obviously was seeking to guard against. Perhaps it will take relegation for them to decide to get out, and someone more interested in seeing the club do well can come in.Gary Megson, Paul Jewell, Gordon Strachan... Sven...? :-D

So much talent about. (Although I really would probably prefer one of them to manage a club I like than Steve Kean.)

I've never been a fan of Sam Allardyce but I'll always think it very wrong to have removed him, the way they did and the timing but more than anything the basic decision itself. Whatever style of football he'd employ, I have to say I'd have faith in him to never have a full season end in relegation.

Steve Kean is a joke. Wormed his way in as part of Allardyce going, with zero experience as frontline manager anywhere and his only previous assistant manager experience alongside Chris Coleman, who is hardly the greatest mentor to be able to cite. My guess is, towards why he got the job and why he's continued in spite of his abject failure thus far... from a quote from Allardyce over choosing Kean as his assistant: "stood out above the rest through his personality, experience and knowledge of football at the highest level". Thus, my guess is that the owners of Venky's be somewhat ignorant about the truths of football and the football world, and somewhat disinterested, so are easily and willingly dazzled, if not duped, by Kean.

I don't see Hughes going back without some serious assurances over transfer funds. Tony Parkes and then reassess depending on where they are for next season? Steve Bruce? Dave Jones? Alan Curbishley? If I were a Blackburn fan, I'd be happy to see Jones come in.

Footnote: As others have said, and I think many of us said in early threads about Venky's takeover, horrible decision by the Family Trust to sell. This sort of farcical mess, not least on the financial side, is what Jack Walker obviously was seeking to guard against. Perhaps it will take relegation for them to decide to get out, and someone more interested in seeing the club do well can come in.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 22-12-2011 09:57

[BotP]

All In want for Christmas is my Rovers back, unfortunatly I dont think there is anyone else who wants to takeover Rovers as when Liverpool got rid of Hodgson (he only had 31 games at Anfield and they were still top10...we have had Kean for 38 and are rock bottom 5 pts from safety), Hicks and Gillet?All In want for Christmas is my Rovers back, unfortunatly I dont think there is anyone else who wants to takeover Rovers as when Liverpool got rid of Hodgson (he only had 31 games at Anfield and they were still top10...we have had Kean for 38 and are rock bottom 5 pts from safety), Hicks and Gillet?

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 23-12-2011 13:07

[BotP]

Why does every football manager, man and dog think they can comment on the treatment Kean is getting at Ewood, they would do the same if it was their team that was being destroyed and getting condemned to Championship oblivion. If Kean would clear off it would do everyone a favour, the abuse is only reflective of his managerial ineptitude and incompetence, why aren't other football managers like Redknapp, Moyes, Ferguson commenting on the worst managerial record in Premiership history, on his record of played 38, won 7 lost 20 and all the lies that have come from Venky's over the last 12 months all the hot air, false hopes and empty promises. Count to 10 and breathe...Why does every football manager, man and dog think they can comment on the treatment Kean is getting at Ewood, they would do the same if it was their team that was being destroyed and getting condemned to Championship oblivion. If Kean would clear off it would do everyone a favour, the abuse is only reflective of his managerial ineptitude and incompetence, why aren't other football managers like Redknapp, Moyes, Ferguson commenting on the worst managerial record in Premiership history, on his record of played 38, won 7 lost 20 and all the lies that have come from Venky's over the last 12 months all the hot air, false hopes and empty promises. Count to 10 and breathe...

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By jamiescfc2010 - 23-12-2011 14:00

[World]

hey James you think you got problems, we got hardly a squad together, the financial side of the club is a mess, which we were almost gone into liquidation and we are in the Blue Square Premier.hey James you think you got problems, we got hardly a squad together, the financial side of the club is a mess, which we were almost gone into liquidation and we are in the Blue Square Premier.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 23-12-2011 21:25

[BotP]

yeah jamie admittedly there is always someone worse off. on the other hand to paraphrase Kean..."I am confident I can turn it around...I can get out of the bottom three...starting at Liverpool on Boxing Day", seriously I want some of what Kean is on, either that or he is completely insane. I dont hate Kean, I feel sorry for him, I really wanted it to work out for him, for us to have found the next Alex Ferguson, Bill Shankley, whoever but it hasnt worked, its a shame but he cant go on, we need a new guy in before the January transfer window and for Venkys to finally stand up and get the cheque book out, football fans are fickle, give an experienced manager and about 30 million cos we will have to replace Samba and Hoillet who I am sure will both be off in January and a load more players especially LB/RB and some pace and movement upfront.yeah jamie admittedly there is always someone worse off.

on the other hand to paraphrase Kean..."I am confident I can turn it around...I can get out of the bottom three...starting at Liverpool on Boxing Day", seriously I want some of what Kean is on, either that or he is completely insane.

I dont hate Kean, I feel sorry for him, I really wanted it to work out for him, for us to have found the next Alex Ferguson, Bill Shankley, whoever but it hasnt worked, its a shame but he cant go on, we need a new guy in before the January transfer window and for Venkys to finally stand up and get the cheque book out, football fans are fickle, give an experienced manager and about 30 million cos we will have to replace Samba and Hoillet who I am sure will both be off in January and a load more players especially LB/RB and some pace and movement upfront.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By kingjaime - 24-12-2011 03:39

[BVB]

I think the level of abuse is for one simple reason: Any reasonably selfless, moral man with the best interests of their club at heart would have resigned some time ago. The fact he hasn't is why I won't feel sorry for him and why I too feel nauseated by the indignation of other managers over fans treatment of him.I think the level of abuse is for one simple reason: Any reasonably selfless, moral man with the best interests of their club at heart would have resigned some time ago.

The fact he hasn't is why I won't feel sorry for him and why I too feel nauseated by the indignation of other managers over fans treatment of him.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By heddo - 24-12-2011 07:36

they hit a bit of form prior to the bolton defeat, kean is up for the challenge, was it not Alan Hansen, prior to the bolton defeat, in fact just after yakubu s hat trick, he commented that he fancied them to beat the drop on the current form and level of competitiveness, blackburn almost snatched a point at the death with sambas header, i felt gutted for samba when i saw him walking off the pitch, Hansens comments reflect on the fact that the team are not getting thrashed and have been unlucky, and are also putting on spirited displays, every club that end up in this situation is the same, if you do not have any support to offer the team, then you may as well stay away as the demonstrative atmosphere could be giving the team a ten man vibe instead of the twelfth man cliche. who is to argue that the demonstrative atmosphere gave a negative impact to the teams performance, kean has won me over in recent weeks, he has courage, spirit and honesty, my sympathy vote goes to the constant moaners who think they deserve to have a successfull team with a fashionable owner and top flight manager handed to them on a plate, why dont they just all buy Man City shirts, Wigan are in the same plight season after season, they all have their tin hats on and are trying to dig themselves out of trouble again, maybe some Blackburn fans ought to try and do the same..they hit a bit of form prior to the bolton defeat, kean is up for the challenge, was it not Alan Hansen, prior to the bolton defeat, in fact just after yakubu s hat trick, he commented that he fancied them to beat the drop on the current form and level of competitiveness, blackburn almost snatched a point at the death with sambas header, i felt gutted for samba when i saw him walking off the pitch, Hansens comments reflect on the fact that the team are not getting thrashed and have been unlucky, and are also putting on spirited displays, every club that end up in this situation is the same, if you do not have any support to offer the team, then you may as well stay away as the demonstrative atmosphere could be giving the team a ten man vibe instead of the twelfth man cliche. who is to argue that the demonstrative atmosphere gave a negative impact to the teams performance, kean has won me over in recent weeks, he has courage, spirit and honesty, my sympathy vote goes to the constant moaners who think they deserve to have a successfull team with a fashionable owner and top flight manager handed to them on a plate, why dont they just all buy Man City shirts, Wigan are in the same plight season after season, they all have their tin hats on and are trying to dig themselves out of trouble again, maybe some Blackburn fans ought to try and do the same..

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 24-12-2011 10:52

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not looking for champions league football just to finish 12th ish each season and this wont happen with Kean...he is quoted on the back of the Lancashire Telegraph as believing he is doing a 'marvelous job' really??? muppet. Liverpool got rid of Hodgson, Villa Houllier, Sunderland Bruce far sooner yet Kean keeps clinging on to take us downnot looking for champions league football just to finish 12th ish each season and this wont happen with Kean...he is quoted on the back of the Lancashire Telegraph as believing he is doing a 'marvelous job' really??? muppet. Liverpool got rid of Hodgson, Villa Houllier, Sunderland Bruce far sooner yet Kean keeps clinging on to take us down

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By troyh65 - 24-12-2011 11:59

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Kean is a joke, however, seriously, Blackburn are rubbish. Noone could turn that rabble around.Kean is a joke, however, seriously, Blackburn are rubbish. Noone could turn that rabble around.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By steviedee - 25-12-2011 01:12

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sack him blackburn are a joke at the momene fik off venky and keansack him blackburn are a joke at the momene fik off venky and kean

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 06-01-2012 09:29

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A United Statement By Blackburn Rovers Fans Recently, Blackburn Rovers fans have been the subject of attention in the national media and we as a body feel that our situation has been misrepresented and that our stance has been grossly misunderstood. The major representative websites of Blackburn Rovers fans have combined to clarify our stance with regard to our current plight in the statement below. Blackburn Rovers fans are not an unrealistically ambitious, over-expecting group of supporters and are not noted by any means for their militance. The large majority would generally be content with a mid-table finish and a good cup run and would be delighted with European qualification, as we have been fortunate enough to experience on a number of occasions in our recent history. We understand that the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea, and more recently Manchester City, have budgets that are quite beyond us, and we do not expect to be able to compete with them financially. What we do expect, however, is for our club to live up to its motto, 'Arte et Labore', and by skill and labour do justice to its 136 years of history while respecting its fan base, which has always been the heartbeat of the club. The vast majority of fans are desperately disappointed by the direction that has been shown by the club since the change in ownership a little over twelve months ago when Venky's bought the club from the Walker Trust, who provided stability and modest success for a club of our stature. On the field, we believe Steve Kean has had sufficient time to prove himself capable of managing a Premier League club. During his tenure as manager of Blackburn Rovers, Kean has been in charge of 42 Premier League fixtures and has presided over a record of 8 wins, 13 draws and 21 losses. Over the course of a season, this equates to a dismal 33.5 points. Having taken the club to the brink of relegation last season, a continuation of his record thus far this season will guarantee relegation in May. His predecessor Sam Allardyce, an experienced and highly competent Premier League manager, was dismissed with a far superior points per game ratio, which makes it difficult to understand why the former team coach Steve Kean is still in his position as manager and continues to enjoy the backing of the owners, no matter how ignorant they are of footballing matters. Only one team in Premier League history has survived relegation having been bottom at Christmas and there is no sign that we look like becoming the second to do so. Off the field, Blackburn Rovers supporters are also frustrated by the pitiful lack of communication between club and fans. We feel that it is essential for owners Venky's to build a stronger relationship with the stakeholders, the fans. The club's public relations are sadly lacking. Steve Kean regularly appears in the media, representing the owners' plans, detailing how much funding Rovers have and expounding the current goals of the club. Many fans feel this is beyond the remit of a team manager and believe that a chief executive or chairman should be charged with such a brief and that such information should be conveyed with a degree of discretion that is absent under the current ownership. Regrettably the owners see fit not to employ people capable of discharging such duties quintessential to the running of a modern football club, having dispensed with the services of John Williams and Tom Finn, who were widely regarded as most able administrators among the Premier League fraternity. The fact that they have not been replaced is of considerable concern to Blackburn Rovers fans and should be of concern, we believe, to all football fans who have the welfare of the game at the heart of their thinking. We believe that the owners' apparent attempt to run the club from India while using Steve Kean as their mouthpiece is unacceptable. Bigger clubs than ours have been relegated from the Premier League before and indeed we have suffered that particular fate before, but that is not our issue here. Our club is not only in jeopardy of losing its Premier League status, it is in danger of disappearing into oblivion under the stewardship of an absent and reckless owner whose public front is a manager who shows little sign of possessing the acumen to manage a team at the highest level and who has singlehandedly managed to drive a wedge between club and fans that has never before been witnessed at our football club, where a perfectly well-functioning community is being systematically dismantled before our very eyes. As the first steps in the restitution of our football club, we, as concerned fans of Blackburn Rovers, seek the appointment of a respected manager who has the requisite experience to preside over our proud club and who can rebuild the bonds between club and fans and we further seek the establishment of an administrative structure that is becoming of a modern institution such as a Premier League football club. The Editors of - BRFCS - Vital Blackburn - RoversTalk - RoversFans - RoversMad - BRFC Fans - The Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust - The Norwegian Blackburn Rovers Supporters Club - NYC Rovers - The Wild Blackburn Rover - Rovers RevisitedA United Statement By Blackburn Rovers Fans

Recently, Blackburn Rovers fans have been the subject of attention in the national media and we as a body feel that our situation has been misrepresented and that our stance has been grossly misunderstood. The major representative websites of Blackburn Rovers fans have combined to clarify our stance with regard to our current plight in the statement below.

Blackburn Rovers fans are not an unrealistically ambitious, over-expecting group of supporters and are not noted by any means for their militance. The large majority would generally be content with a mid-table finish and a good cup run and would be delighted with European qualification, as we have been fortunate enough to experience on a number of occasions in our recent history. We understand that the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea, and more recently Manchester City, have budgets that are quite beyond us, and we do not expect to be able to compete with them financially. What we do expect, however, is for our club to live up to its motto, 'Arte et Labore', and by skill and labour do justice to its 136 years of history while respecting its fan base, which has always been the heartbeat of the club.

The vast majority of fans are desperately disappointed by the direction that has been shown by the club since the change in ownership a little over twelve months ago when Venky's bought the club from the Walker Trust, who provided stability and modest success for a club of our stature. On the field, we believe Steve Kean has had sufficient time to prove himself capable of managing a Premier League club. During his tenure as manager of Blackburn Rovers, Kean has been in charge of 42 Premier League fixtures and has presided over a record of 8 wins, 13 draws and 21 losses. Over the course of a season, this equates to a dismal 33.5 points. Having taken the club to the brink of relegation last season, a continuation of his record thus far this season will guarantee relegation in May. His predecessor Sam Allardyce, an experienced and highly competent Premier League manager, was dismissed with a far superior points per game ratio, which makes it difficult to understand why the former team coach Steve Kean is still in his position as manager and continues to enjoy the backing of the owners, no matter how ignorant they are of footballing matters. Only one team in Premier League history has survived relegation having been bottom at Christmas and there is no sign that we look like becoming the second to do so.

Off the field, Blackburn Rovers supporters are also frustrated by the pitiful lack of communication between club and fans. We feel that it is essential for owners Venky's to build a stronger relationship with the stakeholders, the fans. The club's public relations are sadly lacking. Steve Kean regularly appears in the media, representing the owners' plans, detailing how much funding Rovers have and expounding the current goals of the club. Many fans feel this is beyond the remit of a team manager and believe that a chief executive or chairman should be charged with such a brief and that such information should be conveyed with a degree of discretion that is absent under the current ownership. Regrettably the owners see fit not to employ people capable of discharging such duties quintessential to the running of a modern football club, having dispensed with the services of John Williams and Tom Finn, who were widely regarded as most able administrators among the Premier League fraternity. The fact that they have not been replaced is of considerable concern to Blackburn Rovers fans and should be of concern, we believe, to all football fans who have the welfare of the game at the heart of their thinking. We believe that the owners' apparent attempt to run the club from India while using Steve Kean as their mouthpiece is unacceptable.

Bigger clubs than ours have been relegated from the Premier League before and indeed we have suffered that particular fate before, but that is not our issue here. Our club is not only in jeopardy of losing its Premier League status, it is in danger of disappearing into oblivion under the stewardship of an absent and reckless owner whose public front is a manager who shows little sign of possessing the acumen to manage a team at the highest level and who has singlehandedly managed to drive a wedge between club and fans that has never before been witnessed at our football club, where a perfectly well-functioning community is being systematically dismantled before our very eyes.

As the first steps in the restitution of our football club, we, as concerned fans of Blackburn Rovers, seek the appointment of a respected manager who has the requisite experience to preside over our proud club and who can rebuild the bonds between club and fans and we further seek the establishment of an administrative structure that is becoming of a modern institution such as a Premier League football club.

The Editors of

- BRFCS

- Vital Blackburn

- RoversTalk

- RoversFans

- RoversMad

- BRFC Fans

- The Blackburn Rovers Supporters Trust

- The Norwegian Blackburn Rovers Supporters Club

- NYC Rovers

- The Wild Blackburn Rover

- Rovers Revisited

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By heddo - 06-01-2012 15:06

on your current form you may stay up, your team line up is just as good as that of several in the bottom ten, you are a yo yo club and you havent swung down ward for a while, but if you do go down , so what, live with it like all the other clubs have to, it sounds like you will only support the club if certain circumstances befit, would you support blackburn if they were in the 1 st division, you may have to, take it from me, its not that bad, the away trips are loadsa fun, i hope blackburn stay up, only to see you moaning pack of football snobs with egg on your face, and as for the cup run, you are only just about to start it, and yet your moaning before a ball has been kicked.. its simple, you either support the team or you stay away, you certainly are not going to get sympathy from anywhere, as lots of other teams will tell you, been there, done that..on your current form you may stay up, your team line up is just as good as that of several in the bottom ten, you are a yo yo club and you havent swung down ward for a while, but if you do go down , so what, live with it like all the other clubs have to, it sounds like you will only support the club if certain circumstances befit, would you support blackburn if they were in the 1 st division, you may have to, take it from me, its not that bad, the away trips are loadsa fun, i hope blackburn stay up, only to see you moaning pack of football snobs with egg on your face, and as for the cup run, you are only just about to start it, and yet your moaning before a ball has been kicked..
its simple, you either support the team or you stay away, you certainly are not going to get sympathy from anywhere, as lots of other teams will tell you, been there, done that..

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 07-01-2012 11:26

[BotP]

what do you mean football snobs? had a season ticket since 1988 what we are unhappy about is how is the space of 12 months Venkys have turned a safe mid-table team into favourites for relegation, a flukey freak result away at Old Trafford and poor finishing by Liverpool does not paper over the cracks and by far the worst managerial record in history, Venkys have got rid of the board, backroom staff and now are getting rid of the players, talk about asset stripping by the time they are finished we will be left with an empty shell, I remember the slog when Brian Kidd took us down to the Championship in 1999 it is so hard to get back. The fear for everyone at Ewood is once we go down we will go the way of the Nottingham Forest's and Sheffield Wednesday's, and everyone is terrified of what is currently happening and what will happen in the future. Portsmouth mark2 :( If Venkys had done half of what they said they were going to do regarding investment in the team on and off the pitch believe me every Rovers fan would be perfectly happy to finish 12th every season, but they have not done a thing, they have not cleared the debts even though Walkers Trust sold the club on the cheap with the proviso the debts would be cleared, they have made a £10million profit on transfers since taking over sso no player investment and got rid f the Boardroom people who had kept the club ticking over financially stable for the last 10-15 years and not replaced them, I bet there is no board anymore just two Indians in Pune, no wonder players cant be bothered and want to leave. And it only about 15% of fans who dont get behind the team during matches of which I am not one but I will complain and voice my dissatisfaction away from the ground, like on here. Listening to and reading the media its as if we should be happy about what is happening because Kean is a 'nice guy' regardless of his ability as a football manager.what do you mean football snobs? had a season ticket since 1988 what we are unhappy about is how is the space of 12 months Venkys have turned a safe mid-table team into favourites for relegation, a flukey freak result away at Old Trafford and poor finishing by Liverpool does not paper over the cracks and by far the worst managerial record in history, Venkys have got rid of the board, backroom staff and now are getting rid of the players, talk about asset stripping by the time they are finished we will be left with an empty shell, I remember the slog when Brian Kidd took us down to the Championship in 1999 it is so hard to get back. The fear for everyone at Ewood is once we go down we will go the way of the Nottingham Forest's and Sheffield Wednesday's, and everyone is terrified of what is currently happening and what will happen in the future. Portsmouth mark2 :( If Venkys had done half of what they said they were going to do regarding investment in the team on and off the pitch believe me every Rovers fan would be perfectly happy to finish 12th every season, but they have not done a thing, they have not cleared the debts even though Walkers Trust sold the club on the cheap with the proviso the debts would be cleared, they have made a £10million profit on transfers since taking over sso no player investment and got rid f the Boardroom people who had kept the club ticking over financially stable for the last 10-15 years and not replaced them, I bet there is no board anymore just two Indians in Pune, no wonder players cant be bothered and want to leave. And it only about 15% of fans who dont get behind the team during matches of which I am not one but I will complain and voice my dissatisfaction away from the ground, like on here. Listening to and reading the media its as if we should be happy about what is happening because Kean is a 'nice guy' regardless of his ability as a football manager.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By jamie1976 - 08-01-2012 11:23

[ENG]

A club is only as good as it's players and the lack of back up is showing, Nelson and Salgado are big misses. Without Yakubu the club would already be down, if Hoilet and Samba go it will be over completely. Kean has the same problem AVB does (I actually think AVB is the worse manager) in that neither of them can coach a team to defend correctly.A club is only as good as it's players and the lack of back up is showing, Nelson and Salgado are big misses.

Without Yakubu the club would already be down, if Hoilet and Samba go it will be over completely.

Kean has the same problem AVB does (I actually think AVB is the worse manager) in that neither of them can coach a team to defend correctly.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 09-01-2012 08:03

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Steve Bruce sacked by Sunderland, Warnock sacked by QPR both with better records than Kean why? Because the people behind Sunderland and QPR care about their teams and know that relegation must be avoided at all costs as it is a disaster for a football team on and off the pitch, so why is Kean still left to blunder from one defeat to the next, week after week, because Venkys couldnt give a toss about Rovers, if or when Rovers go down they walk away and we are left with the ruins! Venkys Out! Salgado is finished his legs went last season, which is a shame. Kean's problem is his negative tactics of trying to defend a draw from kick-off.Steve Bruce sacked by Sunderland, Warnock sacked by QPR both with better records than Kean why? Because the people behind Sunderland and QPR care about their teams and know that relegation must be avoided at all costs as it is a disaster for a football team on and off the pitch, so why is Kean still left to blunder from one defeat to the next, week after week, because Venkys couldnt give a toss about Rovers, if or when Rovers go down they walk away and we are left with the ruins! Venkys Out!

Salgado is finished his legs went last season, which is a shame.

Kean's problem is his negative tactics of trying to defend a draw from kick-off.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By jamie1976 - 09-01-2012 13:24

[ENG]

Yeah I agree, seems like you are getting a very raw deal. The last thing Rovers want to do is defend.Yeah I agree, seems like you are getting a very raw deal.

The last thing Rovers want to do is defend.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By kingjaime - 10-01-2012 01:53

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I may've already said this but I can only imagine Steve Kean is an absolute master of self-promotion, charm and deception, with Venkys, as a collective, wholly blind to this possibility (if not fact).I may've already said this but I can only imagine Steve Kean is an absolute master of self-promotion, charm and deception, with Venkys, as a collective, wholly blind to this possibility (if not fact).

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 10-01-2012 17:38

[BotP]

Well that was quite a good show wasn't it? Full of bright story telling, passing the buck to other people, verbally attacking others and ignoring the real problems. No, not a lunch time edition of Loose Women... Jerome Anderson's Sky Sports News interview. For those had the great fortune to miss it, a man with a vested interest in Kentaro/SEM Sports Agency sat there for twenty minutes or so and "informed" us all about the situation at Blackburn Rovers and even went to lengths to "clarify" (sorry for all the quotation marks) his own dealings with the boys running things into the ground down at Ewood Park. In a nutshell, Jerome is a lovely man with not a bad bone in his body who only wanted to help people start up their football business venture. Furthermore he even popped along in a bright suit and matching shoes to assist the club in their January transfer activities for free. And for all this help he has been barracked along with his son, current Rovers player Myles "The Next Chris Smalling" Anderson by Rovers fans. This of course is on top of the Steve Kean abuse from the same fans who never gave the bright, positive and wonderful manager a chance. The fans you see are dragging the club down. If only we would be quiet and let Venky's and Kean continue their brave quest to turn us into Lancashire's equivalent of Barcelona. Which is all well and good except for one thing Mr Anderson... you're talking complete and utter bollocks. Trying to question and blame the fans for the current problems on the pitch is akin to an ostrich burying it's head in the sand. The big issues don't go away just because you pretend they don't exist. In their tenure in England the new owners have racked up mountains of debt, caused problems with their credit lender, appointed a manager who has around a 20% win record and stuck by him against all common sense. They've also hidden half way across the globe to avoid any fan communication since the faithful noticed what they're doing to their "baby". Oh and we're bottom of the table. But yeah, it's definitely the fans fault. The situation at Rovers in Jerome Anderson's eyes if he was a fan is as follows - * For a fan to take a lodger into their house. * For the lodger to trash the place and rob the fan blind * Expect the fan to be content with that state of affairs. * All this after promising me nothing but parties, laughs and good times ahead whilst he/she was there upon first moving in. It doesn't work like that no matter how much you sit there, smile, speak in that deep intelligent voice and answer questions that a six year old child could have thought to ask you. Whilst we are covering all the bases it might be worth mentioning Sky Sports News' part in this - they had a golden opportunity to interrogate Jerome Anderson about a very serious footballing matter and yet they took the time they had to basically perform a glorified PR stunt for the SEM agency and all the Kean cheerleaders who know about 25% of the full story. For all we know some of the points that the clean as a whistle agent Anderson was making could have been perfectly correct and valid but when he is coming out with incomprehensible garbage like "I helped Rovers in January and didn't make any money for myself" and "Manchester City fans were appreciative of the work he did during his time there (he almost sent them into administration prior to the Abu Dhabi takeover)" it calls into question everything else he is carting out as the truth. Even the highly successful January window he is so keen to highlight in which we got hold of Jermaine Jones, Mauro Formica and Ruben Rochina is tainted. It is during that period that we racked up a record high in outgoing agent fees and negotiated various existing player contracts successfully as well. Who was involved in pretty much all of these deals? Take a wild stab in the dark. Go on, I bet you'll never get it. Oh and we signed the aforementioned Myles Anderson who has played zero minutes of Premier League football so far in a year at Ewood Park, has never suggested he's got the potential to make it at the level he's playing at and is about as much use as a fart in an elevator. Agents don't work for free and certainly not during a profitable time of year like the January transfer window so please if you are going to try and worm you're way out of any of this nightmare you helped create for us do it by at least telling a plausible account of events. The protesting fans are by no means blameless as there are some side effects to the current demonstrations during the match days but to absolve Kean, Venky's and himself of any blame takes an unbelievable amount of cheek, arrogance and contempt. If I had to use my gut I'd say that Anderson knows Blackburn Rovers are in a lot of trouble that he helped to create and today was a smashing time to get on TV and pass the buck onto everybody but himself. No proof of that just a hunch. Anderson you've already admitted that you were asked to find the Walker Trust a buyer and one of the options you put forward was Venky's. Whether you ended up selecting them or not is neither here nor there or even near your smug face - you found them and they are a dud, even if we are using your version of the story. I think Alex Ferguson said it best. He once remarked that he wouldn't trust Anderson to "pick his nose"... And that's one thing I actually agree with old whisky nose on. Now take a deep breath.Well that was quite a good show wasn't it?
Full of bright story telling, passing the buck to other people, verbally attacking others and ignoring the real problems.
No, not a lunch time edition of Loose Women... Jerome Anderson's Sky Sports News interview.
For those had the great fortune to miss it, a man with a vested interest in Kentaro/SEM Sports Agency sat there for twenty minutes or so and "informed" us all about the situation at Blackburn Rovers and even went to lengths to "clarify" (sorry for all the quotation marks) his own dealings with the boys running things into the ground down at Ewood Park.
In a nutshell, Jerome is a lovely man with not a bad bone in his body who only wanted to help people start up their football business venture. Furthermore he even popped along in a bright suit and matching shoes to assist the club in their January transfer activities for free. And for all this help he has been barracked along with his son, current Rovers player Myles "The Next Chris Smalling" Anderson by Rovers fans.
This of course is on top of the Steve Kean abuse from the same fans who never gave the bright, positive and wonderful manager a chance.
The fans you see are dragging the club down. If only we would be quiet and let Venky's and Kean continue their brave quest to turn us into Lancashire's equivalent of Barcelona.

Which is all well and good except for one thing Mr Anderson... you're talking complete and utter bollocks.
Trying to question and blame the fans for the current problems on the pitch is akin to an ostrich burying it's head in the sand. The big issues don't go away just because you pretend they don't exist.
In their tenure in England the new owners have racked up mountains of debt, caused problems with their credit lender, appointed a manager who has around a 20% win record and stuck by him against all common sense. They've also hidden half way across the globe to avoid any fan communication since the faithful noticed what they're doing to their "baby".
Oh and we're bottom of the table. But yeah, it's definitely the fans fault.
The situation at Rovers in Jerome Anderson's eyes if he was a fan is as follows -
* For a fan to take a lodger into their house.
* For the lodger to trash the place and rob the fan blind
* Expect the fan to be content with that state of affairs.
* All this after promising me nothing but parties, laughs and good times ahead whilst he/she was there upon first moving in.
It doesn't work like that no matter how much you sit there, smile, speak in that deep intelligent voice and answer questions that a six year old child could have thought to ask you.
Whilst we are covering all the bases it might be worth mentioning Sky Sports News' part in this - they had a golden opportunity to interrogate Jerome Anderson about a very serious footballing matter and yet they took the time they had to basically perform a glorified PR stunt for the SEM agency and all the Kean cheerleaders who know about 25% of the full story.
For all we know some of the points that the clean as a whistle agent Anderson was making could have been perfectly correct and valid but when he is coming out with incomprehensible garbage like "I helped Rovers in January and didn't make any money for myself" and "Manchester City fans were appreciative of the work he did during his time there (he almost sent them into administration prior to the Abu Dhabi takeover)" it calls into question everything else he is carting out as the truth.
Even the highly successful January window he is so keen to highlight in which we got hold of Jermaine Jones, Mauro Formica and Ruben Rochina is tainted. It is during that period that we racked up a record high in outgoing agent fees and negotiated various existing player contracts successfully as well.
Who was involved in pretty much all of these deals? Take a wild stab in the dark. Go on, I bet you'll never get it.

Oh and we signed the aforementioned Myles Anderson who has played zero minutes of Premier League football so far in a year at Ewood Park, has never suggested he's got the potential to make it at the level he's playing at and is about as much use as a fart in an elevator.
Agents don't work for free and certainly not during a profitable time of year like the January transfer window so please if you are going to try and worm you're way out of any of this nightmare you helped create for us do it by at least telling a plausible account of events.
The protesting fans are by no means blameless as there are some side effects to the current demonstrations during the match days but to absolve Kean, Venky's and himself of any blame takes an unbelievable amount of cheek, arrogance and contempt.
If I had to use my gut I'd say that Anderson knows Blackburn Rovers are in a lot of trouble that he helped to create and today was a smashing time to get on TV and pass the buck onto everybody but himself. No proof of that just a hunch.
Anderson you've already admitted that you were asked to find the Walker Trust a buyer and one of the options you put forward was Venky's. Whether you ended up selecting them or not is neither here nor there or even near your smug face - you found them and they are a dud, even if we are using your version of the story.
I think Alex Ferguson said it best. He once remarked that he wouldn't trust Anderson to "pick his nose"... And that's one thing I actually agree with old whisky nose on.
Now take a deep breath.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 12-01-2012 09:48

[BotP]

I wondered how long it would be before the (for “dark forces” read) ‘race card’ was played, you are despicable but desperate man in my opinion. Fortunately for the real fans I believe you have made a big mistake in pointing the spotlight at your involvement at Blackburn. Most supporters were prepared to give the Venkys, Kean, Anderson regime a chance initially but you have now been found out and this cannot continue much longer Do you have any professional pride or integrity? I do not think you need answer that. Following your role in bringing the previous corrupt regime to Manchester City and your subsequent dismissal following the inflated agent fees being charged to that club I find it incredible that you have been allowed anywhere near Blackburn Rovers, you must have friends in high (and low places). And you have the audacity to criticise fans for the shambles you have created. Well I think you have been too brazen this time. No amount of influence through your media network of ex-players and flunkies will be able to justify your totally inappropriate intervention. Our club was formed nearly 140 years ago and we are founder members of the oldest football league in the world, current unrest amongst supporters is not short term reaction following poor results but a genuine fear that the very future of our proud club is seriously threatened by the current, potentially asset stripping ownership and possibly corrupt mismanagement. A recent issue of the Mail on Sunday newspaper, reported that Blackburn face a ‘Fire Sale’ “although the confused financial accounts cannot explain £13.8million disappearing” This only touches on the issues at the heart of the whole sorry mess you have helped create. Prior to the Venky/Kean/Anderson era (the three are indivisible in my opinion) Rovers were generally regarded as a well established, usually mid- table, family friendly Premier league club, well run, financially sound, and punching above our weight with respected management via John Williams, chairman of the Premier League and an experienced and trusted infrastructure. Within months, despite previous assurances that all debts would be cleared, subsequent stability and continuity assured, together with promises of substantial ongoing investment, the following happened. • Sam Allardyce was inexplicably replaced by a totally inexperienced coach, who few people had heard of, amidst rumours of backstabbing and the incompatible role played by yourself as Steve Keans agent. A more ‘clear conflict of interests’ is difficult to imagine. None other than Sir Alex Furguson pointed this out and asked for an investigation. I think he also said “ I don’t know how he is being allowed to pick the team I would not trust him to pick his nose” • John Williams also ‘left’ the club along with Tom Finn and other respected members of the management team, deliberately leaving a vacuum and a conveniently unaccountable management infrastructure. • Rovers recruited your son of Jerome along with some other equally inexplicable, (in football terms) signings totally inconsistent with a premiership club. Partly as result of these ‘arrangements’ Blackburn are currently 7th in the premier league (only marginally behind Man.Utd) in terms of payments to agents, one prominent payment being £1.65 million to yourself (via some complicated subsidiary arrangements) for Rochina with less than £400,000 being paid to Barcelona. Normal agents fees were assessed at £150,000. • BRFC local accountants for more than a century have recently been replaced. The new accountancy practices make it impossible (for outsiders)to properly assess the financial position of the club • Phil Jones was given to Man Utd for £16 million, (market value well over £30 million) Kalinic £7million, Samba, Hoillett and Nzonzi combined value around £25million are set to be sold, with £43 million in Sky revenue and additional ongoing parachute payments, there is a total of around £100million potentially available and all obtained with a minimal outlay. Little wonder we are worried for the future when everything we have been told so far has proved to be untrue. • Barclays are now insistent that a substantial repayment of the debts of around £23 million need to be cleared as previously promised. • .Rovers players were obliged to participate (including Jason Roberts, a vegan) in a cringworthy promotional tour for the benefit of Venkys chicken with the Indian red tilaka marks on their foreheads, a truly humiliating spectacle. Steve Kean is the unacceptable face of all this but throughout our fans have attempted to distinguish between supporting our beloved team and showing our anger at what is going on. This has been repeatedly misrepresented (by yourself and the media masonry) as a vendetta against a decent manager, battling against the odds and impatient fans. His management record is awful and some comments from him verge on the comical but that is hardly relevant other than buying time for you to continue. The long term prospects for our club are indeed bleak unless something drastically changes. Your ill chosen comments will hopefully provide the catalyst. I would have hoped that these points would already have prompted some proper investigation regarding amongst other things the use of a Premiership club as a vehicle for third party ownership or agent manipulation .perhaps a full review of the ‘Fit and Proper’ process carried out by the premier league on prospective owners, maybe even searching questions directed at the real villains here, With the obvious malign influence you have I will not hold my breath. I am not a spokesman for anyone, these are my personal views but most fans agree with the T shirt slogan-- 0% Venkys 0% Kean, 100% Rovers. With one important addition” ANDERSON OUT And the sooner the better.I wondered how long it would be before the (for “dark forces” read) ‘race card’ was played, you are despicable but desperate man in my opinion.
Fortunately for the real fans I believe you have made a big mistake in pointing the spotlight at your involvement at Blackburn.
Most supporters were prepared to give the Venkys, Kean, Anderson regime a chance initially but you have now been found out and this cannot continue much longer

Do you have any professional pride or integrity?

I do not think you need answer that.

Following your role in bringing the previous corrupt regime to Manchester City and your subsequent dismissal following the inflated agent fees being charged to that club I find it incredible that you have been allowed anywhere near Blackburn Rovers, you must have friends in high (and low places).

And you have the audacity to criticise fans for the shambles you have created.
Well I think you have been too brazen this time. No amount of influence through your media network of ex-players and flunkies will be able to justify your totally inappropriate intervention.

Our club was formed nearly 140 years ago and we are founder members of the oldest football league in the world, current unrest amongst supporters is not short term reaction following poor results but a genuine fear that the very future of our proud club is seriously threatened by the current, potentially asset stripping ownership and possibly corrupt mismanagement.

A recent issue of the Mail on Sunday newspaper, reported that Blackburn face a ‘Fire Sale’ “although the confused financial accounts cannot explain £13.8million disappearing” This only touches on the issues at the heart of the whole sorry mess you have helped create.

Prior to the Venky/Kean/Anderson era (the three are indivisible in my opinion) Rovers were generally regarded as a well established, usually mid- table, family friendly Premier league club, well run, financially sound, and punching above our weight with respected management via John Williams, chairman of the Premier League and an experienced and trusted infrastructure.

Within months, despite previous assurances that all debts would be cleared, subsequent stability and continuity assured, together with promises of substantial ongoing investment, the following happened.

• Sam Allardyce was inexplicably replaced by a totally inexperienced coach, who few people had heard of, amidst rumours of backstabbing and the incompatible role played by yourself as Steve Keans agent.
A more ‘clear conflict of interests’ is difficult to imagine. None other than Sir Alex Furguson pointed this out and asked for an investigation. I think he also said “ I don’t know how he is being allowed to pick the team I would not trust him to pick his nose”

•
John Williams also ‘left’ the club along with Tom Finn and other respected members of the management team, deliberately leaving a vacuum and a conveniently unaccountable management infrastructure.

• Rovers recruited your son of Jerome along with some other equally inexplicable, (in football terms) signings totally inconsistent with a premiership club.
Partly as result of these ‘arrangements’ Blackburn are currently 7th in the premier league (only marginally behind Man.Utd) in terms of payments to agents, one prominent payment being £1.65 million to yourself (via some complicated subsidiary arrangements) for Rochina with less than £400,000 being paid to Barcelona.
Normal agents fees were assessed at £150,000.

• BRFC local accountants for more than a century have recently been replaced. The new accountancy practices make it impossible (for outsiders)to properly assess the financial position of the club

• Phil Jones was given to Man Utd for £16 million, (market value well over £30 million) Kalinic £7million, Samba, Hoillett and Nzonzi combined value around £25million are set to be sold, with £43 million in Sky revenue and additional ongoing parachute payments, there is a total of around £100million potentially available and all obtained with a minimal outlay.
Little wonder we are worried for the future when everything we have been told so far has proved
to be untrue.

• Barclays are now insistent that a substantial repayment of the debts of around £23 million need to be cleared as previously promised.

• .Rovers players were obliged to participate (including Jason Roberts, a vegan) in a cringworthy promotional tour for the benefit of Venkys chicken with the Indian red tilaka marks on their foreheads, a truly humiliating spectacle.

Steve Kean is the unacceptable face of all this but throughout our fans have attempted to distinguish between supporting our beloved team and showing our anger at what is going on.

This has been repeatedly misrepresented (by yourself and the media masonry) as a vendetta against a decent manager, battling against the odds and impatient fans. His management record is awful and some comments from him verge on the comical but that is hardly relevant other than buying time for you to continue. The long term prospects for our club are indeed bleak unless something drastically changes. Your ill chosen comments will hopefully provide the catalyst.

I would have hoped that these points would already have prompted some proper investigation regarding amongst other things the use of a Premiership club as a vehicle for third party ownership or agent manipulation .perhaps a full review of the ‘Fit and Proper’ process carried out by the premier league on prospective owners, maybe even searching questions directed at the real villains here,

With the obvious malign influence you have I will not hold my breath.

I am not a spokesman for anyone, these are my personal views but most fans agree with the T shirt slogan--

0% Venkys 0% Kean, 100% Rovers. With one important addition” ANDERSON OUT

And the sooner the better.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By steviedee - 13-01-2012 21:05

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on your current form you may stay up, your team line up is just as good as that of several in the bottom ten, you are a yo yo club and you havent swung down ward for a while, but if you do go down , so what, live with it like all the other clubs have to, it sounds like you will only support the club if certain circumstances befit, would you support blackburn if they were in the 1 st division, you may have to, take it from me, its not that bad, the away trips are loadsa fun, i hope blackburn stay up, only to see you moaning pack of football snobs with egg on your face, and as for the cup run, you are only just about to start it, and yet your moaning before a ball has been kicked.. its simple, you either support the team or you stay away, you certainly are not going to get sympathy from anywhere, as lots of other teams will tell you, been there, done that.. fucking bullshit, all of the happenings at roverson your current form you may stay up, your team line up is just as good as that of several in the bottom ten, you are a yo yo club and you havent swung down ward for a while, but if you do go down , so what, live with it like all the other clubs have to, it sounds like you will only support the club if certain circumstances befit, would you support blackburn if they were in the 1 st division, you may have to, take it from me, its not that bad, the away trips are loadsa fun, i hope blackburn stay up, only to see you moaning pack of football snobs with egg on your face, and as for the cup run, you are only just about to start it, and yet your moaning before a ball has been kicked..
its simple, you either support the team or you stay away, you certainly are not going to get sympathy from anywhere, as lots of other teams will tell you, been there, done that..
fucking bullshit, all of the happenings at rovers

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 14-01-2012 11:04

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the steviedee post very similar to the post by Heddo??? Hmmmmm logged into the wrong account Heddo??? Not looking for sympathy, wish the media would keep their nose out. Rovers fans are protesting to fight for our team, why should we just lie down, or bend over and take it, if we go down so be it, but lets go down fighting and not like wimpering softies, the owners of the club dont care, managers and players can walk away with cash filled bank accounts, we will be they / I will be there till I die, I remember the lower divisions from the 80's upto promotion in 1992 and from 1999/2000. It has abosolutely nothing to do with snobbery, why is it wrong to want the best for your team? If you were a real football fan you may understand. What I dont understand is why the press/media is focussing so heavily on the 20% vocal minority of protesters as some evil sect, when Liverpool protested against Hicks and Gillet and manager Hodgson cos they were only 5/6th in the table the media legitimised the protests as they felt Liverpool should be in the top 4, thats snobbery I would give anything to be 12/13th nevermind 5/6th. We are fighting for our Premiership survival not Europe football, because it is plainly obvious those behind the scenes are not bothered. I dont see any criticism of Sunderland or QPR for sacking Bruce and Warnock because they want to maintain premiership football. Its seems its the media that has the hidden agenda not the fans as that greedy money-grabbing weasel Anderson tried to make out. I will say again 0% Venkys 100% Rovers, everyone is 100% behind the team not the owners...so much for the Premier Leagues fit and proper owner tests, once Venkys are gone we may be able to go some way to rebuilding the proud history of Blackburn Rovers in what ever division, but once you have the taste for cavier for the last ten years its is difficult to accept fish fingers. Nobody is saying or has ever said Rovers deserve or expect to be in the Premier League but lets fight to stay there preferrably with a manager who chooses attacking tactics and sends his team out to win and entertains the crowds.the steviedee post very similar to the post by Heddo??? Hmmmmm logged into the wrong account Heddo???

Not looking for sympathy, wish the media would keep their nose out. Rovers fans are protesting to fight for our team, why should we just lie down, or bend over and take it, if we go down so be it, but lets go down fighting and not like wimpering softies, the owners of the club dont care, managers and players can walk away with cash filled bank accounts, we will be they / I will be there till I die, I remember the lower divisions from the 80's upto promotion in 1992 and from 1999/2000.

It has abosolutely nothing to do with snobbery, why is it wrong to want the best for your team? If you were a real football fan you may understand. What I dont understand is why the press/media is focussing so heavily on the 20% vocal minority of protesters as some evil sect, when Liverpool protested against Hicks and Gillet and manager Hodgson cos they were only 5/6th in the table the media legitimised the protests as they felt Liverpool should be in the top 4, thats snobbery I would give anything to be 12/13th nevermind 5/6th. We are fighting for our Premiership survival not Europe football, because it is plainly obvious those behind the scenes are not bothered. I dont see any criticism of Sunderland or QPR for sacking Bruce and Warnock because they want to maintain premiership football. Its seems its the media that has the hidden agenda not the fans as that greedy money-grabbing weasel Anderson tried to make out.

I will say again 0% Venkys 100% Rovers, everyone is 100% behind the team not the owners...so much for the Premier Leagues fit and proper owner tests, once Venkys are gone we may be able to go some way to rebuilding the proud history of Blackburn Rovers in what ever division, but once you have the taste for cavier for the last ten years its is difficult to accept fish fingers. Nobody is saying or has ever said Rovers deserve or expect to be in the Premier League but lets fight to stay there preferrably with a manager who chooses attacking tactics and sends his team out to win and entertains the crowds.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 14-01-2012 13:34

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And its not just the fans that feel disappointed and disillusioned with the current owners and management lack of ambition at Rovers, as Chris Samba is reported to have said "I want to leave...the promises and plans for the future, given last year by the owners and management have not been met"And its not just the fans that feel disappointed and disillusioned with the current owners and management lack of ambition at Rovers, as Chris Samba is reported to have said "I want to leave...the promises and plans for the future, given last year by the owners and management have not been met"

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 19-01-2012 09:25

[BotP]

Blackburn Rovers' Indian owners further dismantled the club yesterday, with the departure of their commercial director diminishing an already emasculated Ewood Park boardroom which evidently lacks any power to find a route out of the current financial calamity. The removal of Simon Williams, son of the former chairman John Williams – who resigned last February – had been planned for some time by owners who have not replaced his father, nor former managing director Tom Finn, who left last May after 15 years at the club. The frustrations felt by both men and former finance director Martin Goodman, who left in August, was revealed earlier this week in a letter from all three, protesting 12 months ago at the way the board was being marginalised. As Williams departed, the club's prime playing asset – captain Christopher Samba – yesterday arrived late for training, 48 hours after putting in a transfer request that the club's owners, Venky's, have rejected. It also emerged yesterday that Venky's have brought in Joao Souza – manager of their Brazilian division, Venky's do Brasil Ltda – who played a role in last year's attempt to buy Ronaldinho, to help land manager Steve Kean some players in the remainder of the transfer window. It is unclear whether Rovers have any money to spend, considering that their bankers, Barclays, told the Indians that they must deposit £10 million in the club's account or risk no extension of credit to pay the players' wages beyond this month. A sense of how the club has collapsed into chaos has been provided by financier Ian Battersby, one of the few people with links to the club to have been granted an audience with Anuradha Desai, the matriarch of the Rao family who control Venky's. Battersby's detailed account to The Independent of his trip to the family base at Pune, 70 miles south-east of Mumbai, reveals that Desai was convinced that an annual working capital injection of £3m to £5m would be enough to run Rovers, while enhancing the Venky's chicken processing brand in the west. "They thought the initial down-payment [£23m] to buy the club was essentially 'job done'," Battersby said. "With an annual working capital injection of £3m to £5m alongside astute player trading, they [thought] they could get on and expand their brand." The £10m demand from Barclays relates to an agreement reached when the club was taken over in 2010, that specific capital sums would be invested at certain times, which still does not appear to have happened. Though Barclays have said they cannot gamble on extending credit, they are also understood to have advised Rovers that cashing in on Samba could transmit the message that the club are a selling outfit, thus causing a reduction in the value of other assets – including players. Battersby, whose three-hour meeting with Desai came at the invitation of co-owner Balaji Rao following an introduction after the 4-3 win over Arsenal on 17 September, rejected the notion that the Raos were deliberately out to asset-strip the club. He has painted a picture of Desai as an individual with a desire to make things work. She demonstrated a detailed awareness, for example, of job losses at BAE Systems in Lancashire and a Blackburn community street project in which midfielder David Dunn had been involved. But that does not make up for the mistaken notion that Rovers could be run on a shoestring virtually from Pune, with the Ewood Park management almost entirely out of the picture. "Balaji said that I should come to India and explain to 'Madam' all that I had articulated to him – at which point we all knew that it was Mrs Desai who was the decision maker," Battersby said. It became clear to the financier, an ardent Rovers supporter, that the club were expected to operate in the same way as all 170 Venky's Group subsidiaries – with one business head (Kean) who reports directly to the Venky's board. This explains the once-monthly trips to Pune that Kean has been willing to undertake – with a 10-hour flight from London to Mumbai and four-hour onward road trip to Pune. "The notion of a board executing the owners' plans on a day-to-day basis is a complete anathema to them and many of our problems flow from that," Battersby added. "To think the owners require the manager to undertake that journey for a meeting and return same day is an absurdity. Apart from his responsibilities being with team preparations, it is both unsustainable and unnecessary. What's wrong with video conferencing?" Battersby and his business partner, Ian Currie, made this point forcefully to Desai and though Vineeth Rao was appointed to the Ewood board as a UK "middle man", the power vacuum at the club has grown. In the circumstances, Battersby believes Kean has taken undue abuse. "The amount of vitriol has alienated the club from the wider football community and it's meant that few are sympathetic of the club's plight," he said. "It's a soap opera which has drowned out the more serious questions needing to be asked about the ruining of a football club." Battersby emailed Desai on Christmas Eve laying out three options – commit £20m to Premier League survival this month, prepare to rebuild from the Championship next season or plan an orderly exit. He has received no response. It is believed that a favourable bid for the club might be considered, though there is no sense that Rovers are up for sale. "Certainly the cash now required to save Blackburn is at a level they never contemplated and you can easily envisage family disunity at having to gamble £20m or more to one subsidiary in a corner of north-west England," Battersby said. "With local opinion so much against them now, would you be rushing to write a cheque?" Why financial plan is unlikely to bridge gap The family behind Venky's hope to run Blackburn Rovers with an annual capital injection of less than £5m, but Blackburn's most recent set of figures suggest that is an unlikely proposition. Blackburn posted a pre-tax loss of £18.6m for the year ending 30 June 2011, nearly 10 times the £1.9m figure of the previous year. The loss was made up of £4.8m before player trading and £13.8m lost from player trading, admittedly before the £16.5m from Manchester United for Phil Jones. Blackburn's wage bill was £49.9m, up from £47.4m the previous season and £46.1m the year before that. This meant that it was a worrying 86.6 per cent of their annual turnover of £57.6m. The club's net debt rose from £21m to £26.3m last season. The Independent 19/01/12Blackburn Rovers' Indian owners further dismantled the club yesterday, with the departure of their commercial director diminishing an already emasculated Ewood Park boardroom which evidently lacks any power to find a route out of the current financial calamity.

The removal of Simon Williams, son of the former chairman John Williams – who resigned last February – had been planned for some time by owners who have not replaced his father, nor former managing director Tom Finn, who left last May after 15 years at the club. The frustrations felt by both men and former finance director Martin Goodman, who left in August, was revealed earlier this week in a letter from all three, protesting 12 months ago at the way the board was being marginalised.

As Williams departed, the club's prime playing asset – captain Christopher Samba – yesterday arrived late for training, 48 hours after putting in a transfer request that the club's owners, Venky's, have rejected. It also emerged yesterday that Venky's have brought in Joao Souza – manager of their Brazilian division, Venky's do Brasil Ltda – who played a role in last year's attempt to buy Ronaldinho, to help land manager Steve Kean some players in the remainder of the transfer window. It is unclear whether Rovers have any money to spend, considering that their bankers, Barclays, told the Indians that they must deposit £10 million in the club's account or risk no extension of credit to pay the players' wages beyond this month.

A sense of how the club has collapsed into chaos has been provided by financier Ian Battersby, one of the few people with links to the club to have been granted an audience with Anuradha Desai, the matriarch of the Rao family who control Venky's. Battersby's detailed account to The Independent of his trip to the family base at Pune, 70 miles south-east of Mumbai, reveals that Desai was convinced that an annual working capital injection of £3m to £5m would be enough to run Rovers, while enhancing the Venky's chicken processing brand in the west. "They thought the initial down-payment [£23m] to buy the club was essentially 'job done'," Battersby said. "With an annual working capital injection of £3m to £5m alongside astute player trading, they [thought] they could get on and expand their brand."

The £10m demand from Barclays relates to an agreement reached when the club was taken over in 2010, that specific capital sums would be invested at certain times, which still does not appear to have happened. Though Barclays have said they cannot gamble on extending credit, they are also understood to have advised Rovers that cashing in on Samba could transmit the message that the club are a selling outfit, thus causing a reduction in the value of other assets – including players.

Battersby, whose three-hour meeting with Desai came at the invitation of co-owner Balaji Rao following an introduction after the 4-3 win over Arsenal on 17 September, rejected the notion that the Raos were deliberately out to asset-strip the club. He has painted a picture of Desai as an individual with a desire to make things work. She demonstrated a detailed awareness, for example, of job losses at BAE Systems in Lancashire and a Blackburn community street project in which midfielder David Dunn had been involved. But that does not make up for the mistaken notion that Rovers could be run on a shoestring virtually from Pune, with the Ewood Park management almost entirely out of the picture.

"Balaji said that I should come to India and explain to 'Madam' all that I had articulated to him – at which point we all knew that it was Mrs Desai who was the decision maker," Battersby said. It became clear to the financier, an ardent Rovers supporter, that the club were expected to operate in the same way as all 170 Venky's Group subsidiaries – with one business head (Kean) who reports directly to the Venky's board. This explains the once-monthly trips to Pune that Kean has been willing to undertake – with a 10-hour flight from London to Mumbai and four-hour onward road trip to Pune.

"The notion of a board executing the owners' plans on a day-to-day basis is a complete anathema to them and many of our problems flow from that," Battersby added. "To think the owners require the manager to undertake that journey for a meeting and return same day is an absurdity. Apart from his responsibilities being with team preparations, it is both unsustainable and unnecessary. What's wrong with video conferencing?"

Battersby and his business partner, Ian Currie, made this point forcefully to Desai and though Vineeth Rao was appointed to the Ewood board as a UK "middle man", the power vacuum at the club has grown.

In the circumstances, Battersby believes Kean has taken undue abuse. "The amount of vitriol has alienated the club from the wider football community and it's meant that few are sympathetic of the club's plight," he said. "It's a soap opera which has drowned out the more serious questions needing to be asked about the ruining of a football club."

Battersby emailed Desai on Christmas Eve laying out three options – commit £20m to Premier League survival this month, prepare to rebuild from the Championship next season or plan an orderly exit. He has received no response. It is believed that a favourable bid for the club might be considered, though there is no sense that Rovers are up for sale. "Certainly the cash now required to save Blackburn is at a level they never contemplated and you can easily envisage family disunity at having to gamble £20m or more to one subsidiary in a corner of north-west England," Battersby said. "With local opinion so much against them now, would you be rushing to write a cheque?"

Why financial plan is unlikely to bridge gap

The family behind Venky's hope to run Blackburn Rovers with an annual capital injection of less than £5m, but Blackburn's most recent set of figures suggest that is an unlikely proposition.

Blackburn posted a pre-tax loss of £18.6m for the year ending 30 June 2011, nearly 10 times the £1.9m figure of the previous year. The loss was made up of £4.8m before player trading and £13.8m lost from player trading, admittedly before the £16.5m from Manchester United for Phil Jones.

Blackburn's wage bill was £49.9m, up from £47.4m the previous season and £46.1m the year before that. This meant that it was a worrying 86.6 per cent of their annual turnover of £57.6m. The club's net debt rose from £21m to £26.3m last season.

The Independent 19/01/12

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By chelseax1 - 19-01-2012 11:39

[INDIA]

Blackburn is done. all gd players will leave n will turn bankrupt soon. feel sry for the fans. i knew this wld happen the day venkys bought the club. stupid owners,they came to earn money n recognition now when things are not working out trying to save what ever they can.Blackburn is done.
all gd players will leave n will turn bankrupt soon.
feel sry for the fans.
i knew this wld happen the day venkys bought the club.
stupid owners,they came to earn money n recognition
now when things are not working out
trying to save what ever they can.

Re: Steve Keen watch.....

By nomercyurz - 27-01-2012 23:56

[BotP]

As I said 14/1 Samba is publicly criticising Venky's, after the recent upturn in results on the pitch (all the fans want) now about 95% behind Kean, fighting spirit, the truth has come out about Venky's finances, backs to the wall get behonf the team and get rid of Venkys (not Kean) and save Rovers, if we go down we must come back stronger!!!As I said 14/1 Samba is publicly criticising Venky's, after the recent upturn in results on the pitch (all the fans want) now about 95% behind Kean, fighting spirit, the truth has come out about Venky's finances, backs to the wall get behonf the team and get rid of Venkys (not Kean) and save Rovers, if we go down we must come back stronger!!!

 

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