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Ronaldo Vs Messi

By ka1990 - 07-09-2011 03:29

Who is the best? Lets see how many votes for ronaldo and how many for messi. my vote goes for Ronaldo!!!!!!Who is the best?

Lets see how many votes for ronaldo and how many for messi.

my vote goes for Ronaldo!!!!!!

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Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By felipekd - 11-09-2011 01:45

You're right. Three times Ronaldo.You're right. Three times Ronaldo.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By kingjaime - 11-09-2011 12:23

[BVB]

Brazilian Ronaldo as-in the toothy chap? He was immense up until his first knee injury with Internazionale, but although he came back well, from other surgeries too, he never scaled those heights of performance again. If Brazilians wanted to make a case for one of their own, I'd say Ronaldinho until recently was one of the very greatest of modern times, and Philippe Coutinho one of the most promising.Brazilian Ronaldo as-in the toothy chap? He was immense up until his first knee injury with Internazionale, but although he came back well, from other surgeries too, he never scaled those heights of performance again.

If Brazilians wanted to make a case for one of their own, I'd say Ronaldinho until recently was one of the very greatest of modern times, and Philippe Coutinho one of the most promising.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By ka1990 - 12-09-2011 18:44

Ronaldinho was Great, but he got lazy, i think the money and fame got to him. i know deep inside he still got it in him, but Ronaldo El Fenomeno along with zidane will always be my players because i grew up watching them play. They are true LEgends of this game, And so is Messi and Ronaldo. Messi might tie them this year with three player of the year award each. if real madrid wins la liga , i betting ronaldo gets itRonaldinho was Great, but he got lazy, i think the money and fame got to him. i know deep inside he still got it in him, but Ronaldo El Fenomeno along with zidane will always be my players because i grew up watching them play. They are true LEgends of this game, And so is Messi and Ronaldo.

Messi might tie them this year with three player of the year award each. if real madrid wins la liga , i betting ronaldo gets it

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By mahel11 - 12-09-2011 19:15

So who's winning so far?I voted for Ronaldo.So who's winning so far?I voted for Ronaldo.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By ka1990 - 12-09-2011 19:38

8-6 ROnaldo is leading8-6 ROnaldo is leading

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By kabaddi21 - 13-09-2011 11:03

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3,775 votes http://www.smh.com.au/polls/sport/football/lionel-messi-v-cristiano-ronaldo-20110209-1ambd.html3,775 votes

http://www.smh.com.au/polls/sport/football/lionel-messi-v-cristiano-ronaldo-20110209-1ambd.html

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By kabaddi21 - 13-09-2011 11:14

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I think Ronaldo could have been the best player ever if not for his injuries. World Player of the Year at just 19 years old. He had everything, physically and technically. People will agree he didn't quite achieve as much as he could because of his career threatening injuries that put him out for 4 years and lost a yard of pace not to mention his weight shot up and still he got to 3 world cup finals winning two, thrice player of the year, joint leading world cup top scorer. If he didn't have all those problems he would be considered the best ever in my opinion. Yes id put him higher than even Maradona, Pele and Zidane.I think Ronaldo could have been the best player ever if not for his injuries. World Player of the Year at just 19 years old. He had everything, physically and technically. People will agree he didn't quite achieve as much as he could because of his career threatening injuries that put him out for 4 years and lost a yard of pace not to mention his weight shot up and still he got to 3 world cup finals winning two, thrice player of the year, joint leading world cup top scorer.

If he didn't have all those problems he would be considered the best ever in my opinion. Yes id put him higher than even Maradona, Pele and Zidane.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By bulldogs123 - 13-09-2011 12:55

I think Messi is better, when the time comes for a player to step up and be counted, when the stakes are high, Messi ALWAYS delivers, for a example, Messi in the semi final to get Barca into the final (this was last season) against Manchester united, Messi dribbled 4-5 players to score a goal AT.... the Bernabau, then he scores the finisher to make it 0-2 later on, where was Ronaldo at that point? playing at home failing to step up to the big stage. Another example is Messi in the champions league finals, he scored against Manchester united off a HEADER, and last season scored from outside the box,when stakes are high Messi is the player i would rather have, Ronaldo fails at big games. well at least i think so. Also Messi scores against quality opponents and clubs.I think Messi is better, when the time comes for a player to step up and be counted, when the stakes are high, Messi ALWAYS delivers, for a example, Messi in the semi final to get Barca into the final (this was last season) against Manchester united, Messi dribbled 4-5 players to score a goal AT.... the Bernabau, then he scores the finisher to make it 0-2 later on, where was Ronaldo at that point? playing at home failing to step up to the big stage.

Another example is Messi in the champions league finals, he scored against Manchester united off a HEADER, and last season scored from outside the box,when stakes are high Messi is the player i would rather have, Ronaldo fails at big games. well at least i think so. Also Messi scores against quality opponents and clubs.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By bulldogs123 - 13-09-2011 12:57

Messi scored against Real Madrid at the Bernabau in the semi final sorry, not Manchester united haha.Messi scored against Real Madrid at the Bernabau in the semi final sorry, not Manchester united haha.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By ka1990 - 13-09-2011 19:51

Ronaldo fails at big games, you mean against barcelona, where he scored the winning copa del rey . he scored against ac milan, and bunch of other team.Ronaldo fails at big games, you mean against barcelona, where he scored the winning copa del rey . he scored against ac milan, and bunch of other team.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By ka1990 - 13-09-2011 19:53

8-7 ronaldo leads @kabiddi21 ronaldo from brazil was looked at to become better then pele and maradona, but when he got injured, THREE times. that ended it for him. in my point of view, he is the greastest unluckiest player ever8-7 ronaldo leads

@kabiddi21 ronaldo from brazil was looked at to become better then pele and maradona, but when he got injured, THREE times. that ended it for him. in my point of view, he is the greastest unluckiest player ever

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By richardmbutler - 14-09-2011 13:35

Messi is a far better player than Ronaldo and a gantleman of the game. He does not come across arrogant or big-headed, can the same be said for Ronaldo.. There is no contest and never will be. Messi all the way.. :)Messi is a far better player than Ronaldo and a gantleman of the game. He does not come across arrogant or big-headed, can the same be said for Ronaldo.. There is no contest and never will be. Messi all the way.. :)

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By milospalma - 14-09-2011 17:19

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RonaldoRonaldo

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By birginia (NC) - 14-09-2011 19:26

[Greece]
President

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Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By ka1990 - 14-09-2011 20:31

10-8 ronaldo Mourinho has taught Ronaldo to be a team player and if you been watching the real madrid games. you would see that.10-8 ronaldo

Mourinho has taught Ronaldo to be a team player and if you been watching the real madrid games. you would see that.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By emirates06 - 16-09-2011 04:34

Messi no doubt doesnt need stepovers or whatnot to get past playersMessi no doubt doesnt need stepovers or whatnot to get past players

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By lumengoo - 16-09-2011 10:30

zico > pele > romario > maradona > cruyfy > messi > ronaldozico > pele > romario > maradona > cruyfy > messi > ronaldo

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By jesterstear - 16-09-2011 10:36

[BotP]

Messi, definitely!Messi, definitely!

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By steviedee - 16-09-2011 20:54

[BotP]

rooneyrooney

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By ka1990 - 16-09-2011 21:20

10-10 tie between Ronaldo and Messi and 1 vote for Rooney LOL @lumengoo hmmmm so you put zico better then pele and ramario better then maradona. good to now10-10 tie between Ronaldo and Messi and 1 vote for Rooney LOL

@lumengoo hmmmm so you put zico better then pele and ramario better then maradona. good to now

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By ghettonet - 19-09-2011 18:09

messi is the best , but let me ask why people say ronaldo is the one bcoz his not up to the game of messi and compared to the style of play messi does not mind skill n skill is not his weapon by far of ronaldo the portugees player he likes entertainment too much but for me its a nooooooo!!!! its better this messi and ronaldo of brazillll pliz it may stay that way.messi is the best , but let me ask why people say ronaldo is the one bcoz his not up to the game of messi and compared to the style of play messi does not mind skill n skill is not his weapon by far of ronaldo the portugees player he likes entertainment too much but for me its a nooooooo!!!! its better this messi and ronaldo of brazillll pliz it may stay that way.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By rivercampion - 25-09-2011 02:10

[MZUSA]

Messi his 11th hattrick today at Barcelona , but a real hat trick not like Ronaldo's also today in which 2 of his goals were p.ksMessi his 11th hattrick today at Barcelona , but a real hat trick not like Ronaldo's also today in which 2 of his goals were p.ks

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By kabaddi21 - 25-09-2011 17:21

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so far Messi ......- 5 games, 8 goals (0 penalties), 5 assists, 26 shots Ronaldo..- 5 games, 7 goals (3 penalties), 1 assists, 41 shots also Rooney....-5 games, 9 goals (1 penalties), 1 assists, 28 shots Aguero.....-6 games, 8 goals (0 penalties), 2 assists, 25 shotsso far

Messi ......- 5 games, 8 goals (0 penalties), 5 assists, 26 shots
Ronaldo..- 5 games, 7 goals (3 penalties), 1 assists, 41 shots

also

Rooney....-5 games, 9 goals (1 penalties), 1 assists, 28 shots
Aguero.....-6 games, 8 goals (0 penalties), 2 assists, 25 shots

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By ka1990 - 25-09-2011 18:46

this will go on all year long. its too early to tell how things will end. the season has just started, at the end , we will talk who is the best.this will go on all year long. its too early to tell how things will end. the season has just started, at the end , we will talk who is the best.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By gregorrozman - 26-09-2011 12:39

the best player to ever walk the earth is messi. he's like jordan in basketball. i can't believe people put that metrosexual model lipstick ronaldo in front of a football god. they don't have the eyes i suppose. and in tough times for both economy and football we do not compare internationals. and even if we would - both ronaldo and messi do not play well for their countries. the best players in club football do not play well for their nation because they are tired and because of lack of stimulation. just look england and compare it to germany. also check argentine and compare it to uruguay. the focus of world football is on champions league and that is the first competition in history of football that managed to overtake world cup. imho.the best player to ever walk the earth is messi. he's like jordan in basketball. i can't believe people put that metrosexual model lipstick ronaldo in front of a football god. they don't have the eyes i suppose.

and in tough times for both economy and football we do not compare internationals. and even if we would - both ronaldo and messi do not play well for their countries. the best players in club football do not play well for their nation because they are tired and because of lack of stimulation. just look england and compare it to germany. also check argentine and compare it to uruguay.

the focus of world football is on champions league and that is the first competition in history of football that managed to overtake world cup. imho.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By chris270289 - 01-10-2011 22:22

I'm gonna say Nani, just to disagree :-)I'm gonna say Nani, just to disagree :-)

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By kaboda - 03-10-2011 23:00

Ronaldo! No doubts about this ...if he didn't injure , he would be better than pele; kekekkekekekRonaldo! No doubts about this ...if he didn't injure , he would be better than pele; kekekkekekek

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By rivercampion - 04-10-2011 03:42

[MZUSA]

@ the brazilian crowd ...kaboda et al....We are not talking about Ronaldo do Brazil We are talking about Christiano Ronaldo....@ the brazilian crowd ...kaboda et al....We are not talking about Ronaldo do Brazil
We are talking about Christiano Ronaldo....

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By blaisehayes - 04-10-2011 07:15

MessiMessi

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By ka1990 - 05-10-2011 01:43

LOL at river champion. ya we are talking about C.Ronaldo. the best player on earth at this MOMENT. F MESSI AND F BARCELONA lolLOL at river champion. ya we are talking about C.Ronaldo. the best player on earth at this MOMENT. F MESSI AND F BARCELONA lol

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By bestplaymaker2134 - 05-10-2011 03:29

[AUSNZ]

there is no best better player!!!there is no best better player!!!

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By tommylee81 - 09-10-2011 08:08

[CAVS]

The best player of the moment is Messi and the king of all time is [b]MARADONA.[/b]The best player of the moment is Messi and the king of all time is MARADONA.

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By overthetop3 - 09-10-2011 13:14

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My vote is still for Messi by some distance and will remain that way until CR starts winning trophies again. 40 goals and a domestic cup mean nothing if you fall short in the league and lose in the Champions League Semi-Final.My vote is still for Messi by some distance and will remain that way until CR starts winning trophies again. 40 goals and a domestic cup mean nothing if you fall short in the league and lose in the Champions League Semi-Final.

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By ratiarakhamia - 10-10-2011 21:11

[Milan]

messi is bettermessi is better

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By kabaddi21 - 11-10-2011 12:05

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10-16 Messi leads.. funny how he only counts when Ronaldo is ahead ;)10-16 Messi leads..



funny how he only counts when Ronaldo is ahead ;)

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By steviedee - 11-10-2011 17:56

[BotP]

@tommylee81 Maradona the best of all time he was good but a cheating twat@tommylee81 Maradona the best of all time he was good but a cheating twat

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By chris925 - 11-10-2011 22:00

My vote goes to Ali Dia =oDMy vote goes to Ali Dia =oD

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By kyle-11 - 11-10-2011 23:07

Ronaldo. He doesn't need a Xavi or Iniesta.Ronaldo. He doesn't need a Xavi or Iniesta.

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By macanudo - 27-10-2011 12:45

messi...messi...

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By andres_iniesta - 01-11-2011 05:19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQbzhLQ0l6Y 1, 2, 3 MESSI!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQbzhLQ0l6Y

1, 2, 3 MESSI!!!

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By jamiescfc2010 - 02-11-2011 00:38

[World]

Messi for me Fun fact: He scored his 200th goal for Barcelona tonight or is it 203 wow :oMessi for me

Fun fact: He scored his 200th goal for Barcelona tonight or is it 203 wow :o

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By rivercampion - 02-11-2011 07:07

[MZUSA]

@kyle-11 Messi two hattricks in 4 days without Xavi and Iniesta! On Saturday 3 goals in the span of 18 minutes! against Zaragoza Tuesday 3 goals against Viktoria Pilsen for the Champions League In none of this games Xavi or Iniesta played...so please give me a break. 202 goals total with Barcelona's jersey@kyle-11

Messi two hattricks in 4 days without Xavi and Iniesta!

On Saturday 3 goals in the span of 18 minutes! against Zaragoza

Tuesday 3 goals against Viktoria Pilsen for the Champions League

In none of this games Xavi or Iniesta played...so please give me a break.

202 goals total with Barcelona's jersey

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By rivercampion - 02-11-2011 07:07

[MZUSA]

oh...and forgot to mention ...he is just 24 yrs oldoh...and forgot to mention ...he is just 24 yrs old

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By xellu - 02-11-2011 12:04

@ river I don't think I need to mention that he scored hat-tricks against teams that are as good as a bunch of chickens. Even a 10 year old kid would be able to score 3 goals against the 2 teams mentioned.@ river

I don't think I need to mention that he scored hat-tricks against teams that are as good as a bunch of chickens.

Even a 10 year old kid would be able to score 3 goals against the 2 teams mentioned.

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By rivercampion - 02-11-2011 21:17

[MZUSA]

@xeilu sorry mate that is a ridiculous comment... and against who does Ronaldo score hattricks? Probably the people of the Czech Republic won't like your comment... Previous Champions Messi scored not 3 but 4 goals against Arsenal ...that is another bunch of chickens .... as well as Stuttgart?@xeilu

sorry mate that is a ridiculous comment... and against who does Ronaldo score hattricks? Probably the people of the Czech Republic won't like your comment...


Previous Champions Messi scored not 3 but 4 goals against Arsenal ...that is another bunch of chickens .... as well as Stuttgart?

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By rivercampion - 02-11-2011 21:37

[MZUSA]

Honestly such a comment can only be understood from a person that either doesn't follow much of football or understands little about the sport... Why didn't anyone from Milan scored a hattrick against V. Pilsen? All time Top Scorers in Champions League (Goals, games, ratio) 1 Raúl 71 144 0.49 2 Ruud van Nistelrooy 56 81 0.69 3 Thierry Henry 50 114 0.44 4 Andriy Shevchenko 48 115 0.41 5 Filippo Inzaghi 46 83 0.55 6 Lionel Messi 42 62 0.69 7 Alessandro Del Piero 42 96 0.43 8 Fernando Morientes 33 93 0.35 9 Didier Drogba 33 62 0.51 10 Cristiano Ronaldo 29 78 0.39 11 David Trezeguet 29 58 0.5 12 Ryan Giggs 29 137 0.21 Just look at who of all these top players has the highest ratio of goals per game.. only two players tying at 0.69 Messi and van Nistelrooy Ronaldo is way below at 0.39 and in 10th place...with 29 goals vs Messi with 42 and he is just a 24 yrs old!!Honestly such a comment can only be understood from a person that either doesn't follow much of football or understands little about the sport...

Why didn't anyone from Milan scored a hattrick against V. Pilsen?

All time Top Scorers in Champions League (Goals, games, ratio)

1 Raúl 71 144 0.49
2 Ruud van Nistelrooy 56 81 0.69
3 Thierry Henry 50 114 0.44
4 Andriy Shevchenko 48 115 0.41
5 Filippo Inzaghi 46 83 0.55
6 Lionel Messi 42 62 0.69
7 Alessandro Del Piero 42 96 0.43
8 Fernando Morientes 33 93 0.35
9 Didier Drogba 33 62 0.51
10 Cristiano Ronaldo 29 78 0.39
11 David Trezeguet 29 58 0.5
12 Ryan Giggs 29 137 0.21

Just look at who of all these top players has the highest ratio of goals per game.. only two players tying at 0.69 Messi and van Nistelrooy
Ronaldo is way below at 0.39 and in 10th place...with 29 goals vs Messi with 42 and he is just a 24 yrs old!!

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By rivercampion - 02-11-2011 21:54

[MZUSA]

Nice interactive feature on this Spanish newspaper (Marca actually a Real Madrid newspaper) http://www.marca.com/2011/11/02/multimedia/graficos/1320233041.html in the tab (Goles por Competicion) You can see how he progressed season after season. In bright red = games played, middle red bar = goles scored and light pink (right bar )= number of assists . Noticed how the number of assists has increased dramatically.Nice interactive feature on this Spanish newspaper (Marca actually a Real Madrid newspaper)

http://www.marca.com/2011/11/02/multimedia/graficos/1320233041.html

in the tab (Goles por Competicion) You can see how he progressed season after season. In bright red = games played, middle red bar = goles scored and light pink (right bar )= number of assists . Noticed how the number of assists has increased dramatically.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By tenebralis - 04-11-2011 20:54

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You can't compare what is not comparable. Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are different players. Both are legendary players. However if I must choose... Cristiano Ronaldo. Why? For various analyzable reasons: Because Ronaldo has proven his worth in very different football atmospheres. Messi has not, his is limited to an ambiance that is solely constructed for him, Barcelona's play style. . Rationally speaking, Ronaldo having the "working class" talents of Xavi and Iniesta behind him at Barça would be "god like". Messi in Real Madrid would not... You can't compare Real Madrid's overall team contribution to Ronaldo, with Barça's contribution to Messi (you might perhaps compare it to Manchester United's team collective contribution to Ronaldo... but that would also still be a point in favour for Ronaldo's performance in different ambiances...) (I might use the same reason in a "Mourinho versus Guardiola" theme...) Additionally, I would really like to see Messi perform with "anti-Messi" football environments, such as Ronaldo is able to perform with constant "anti-Ronaldos" environments at almost all times... Others speak of Ronaldo's lack of humbleness... The lad is not the most modest guy in the world surely not, but that is a long distance in saying he is a "prima dona"... Ronaldo in spite of the fact he's world famous is still the most hard working footballer I remember seeing, he is the last player to leave the training practices at all times. I f that is not a sort of humbleness... Messi is? Well Messi is not harassed by paparazzos as Ronaldo is (Messi doesn't put himself in such scenarios such as Ronaldo, I concur with that tough...) (if you want good examples of the opposite mention the likes of Ronaldinhos and Romarios that the Brazilians always love to quote...) Your forgiveness for the quite extensive post... Cristiano Ronaldo gets my vote.You can't compare what is not comparable.
Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are different players.
Both are legendary players.

However if I must choose... Cristiano Ronaldo.

Why?
For various analyzable reasons:

Because Ronaldo has proven his worth in very different football atmospheres. Messi has not, his is limited to an ambiance that is solely constructed for him, Barcelona's play style.
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Rationally speaking, Ronaldo having the "working class" talents of Xavi and Iniesta behind him at Barça would be "god like".
Messi in Real Madrid would not... You can't compare Real Madrid's overall team contribution to Ronaldo, with Barça's contribution to Messi (you might perhaps compare it to Manchester United's team collective contribution to Ronaldo... but that would also still be a point in favour for Ronaldo's performance in different ambiances...)
(I might use the same reason in a "Mourinho versus Guardiola" theme...)

Additionally, I would really like to see Messi perform with "anti-Messi" football environments, such as Ronaldo is able to perform with constant "anti-Ronaldos" environments at almost all times...

Others speak of Ronaldo's lack of humbleness...
The lad is not the most modest guy in the world surely not, but that is a long distance in saying he is a "prima dona"... Ronaldo in spite of the fact he's world famous is still the most hard working footballer I remember seeing, he is the last player to leave the training practices at all times. I f that is not a sort of humbleness... Messi is? Well Messi is not harassed by paparazzos as Ronaldo is (Messi doesn't put himself in such scenarios such as Ronaldo, I concur with that tough...)
(if you want good examples of the opposite mention the likes of Ronaldinhos and Romarios that the Brazilians always love to quote...)

Your forgiveness for the quite extensive post...
Cristiano Ronaldo gets my vote.

Re: Ronaldo Vs Messi

By xbiimalx3 - 09-11-2011 22:29

[BNL]

@tenebralis That. i was about tell that haha :) Both Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi are different players, they have different personalities. But ye i got for RONALDO@tenebralis

That. i was about tell that haha :)


Both Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi are different players, they have different personalities.

But ye i got for RONALDO

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By tenebralis - 11-11-2011 20:04

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;);)

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