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Why is set plays still a skill? why?

By civilu - 18-12-2017 01:15

[RAF]
President

I mean, when my best players in set plays, with 5 and 2 with 4, plus 8 or above in inteligence, plus 9/10 in experience, plus 8-10 in shooting... when these three miss penalties like crazy and only seem to score 1/I don't know how many but still too little... One can only wonder: [b]why in the name of the father and mother of MZ is set plays still in the game and called active skill???[/b] Please, Crew, at least have the mercy of saying, officially, that it's just like height and foot, it doesn't freaking matter, at least to know that and get over it. PS: But then again, what does matter? Experience, shooting, inteligence, what? [color=red][i]Community rule 2.6 Also I have removed all capital letters where they do not belong. Typing messages in all caps commonly became closely identified with "shouting" or attention-seeking behavior, and may be considered rude.[/i][/color]I mean, when my best players in set plays, with 5 and 2 with 4, plus 8 or above in inteligence, plus 9/10 in experience, plus 8-10 in shooting... when these three miss penalties like crazy and only seem to score 1/I don't know how many but still too little... One can only wonder: why in the name of the father and mother of MZ is set plays still in the game and called active skill???

Please, Crew, at least have the mercy of saying, officially, that it's just like height and foot, it doesn't freaking matter, at least to know that and get over it.

PS: But then again, what does matter? Experience, shooting, inteligence, what?

Community rule 2.6
Also I have removed all capital letters where they do not belong. Typing messages in all caps commonly became closely identified with "shouting" or attention-seeking behavior, and may be considered rude.

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Re: Why is SET PLAYS still a skill? WHY???

By dowopado - 18-12-2017 06:26

[BotP]

You raise a good question. Same goes for the "once in a blue moon" scores from corners and free kicks. Personally, I believe it is the super powers of the keeper that distorts the necessary skills needed for penalty kickers and strikers to score consistently. Would like to hear from any managers with 8+ balls set plays player...on their efficiency in creating scores from corners, free kicks and penalties.You raise a good question. Same goes for the "once in a blue moon" scores from corners and free kicks.

Personally, I believe it is the super powers of the keeper that distorts the necessary skills needed for penalty kickers and strikers to score consistently.

Would like to hear from any managers with 8+ balls set plays player...on their efficiency in creating scores from corners, free kicks and penalties.

Re: Why is set plays still a skill? why?

By hanzinho - 18-12-2017 13:06

[WCE]
President

It would make absolutely no sense for this skill to be dead. I know just about enough about programming to know it would be "easy" to write code that makes all skill count, to various degrees. It could be something as primitive as the simulator giving players an additional small boost per ball, regardless of which skill this ball is in. I'd go a long way saying this is in place already.. A 80-baller tend to play better than a 70-baller, even if their primaries are identical. Simply leaving a skill for dead, would make absolutely no sense. You wouldn't program the simulator, and then tell your boss "I wasn't able to make set plays count, sorry!". Perhaps it is extra difficult to measure this skill, because it works in conjunction with so many other skills. And the likeliness of scoring a free-kick is very low to begin with. It would be difficult to see the difference between a 0,4% success-rate on free-kicks and a 2% success-rate. One rather flamboyant theory is that set plays works as a "team-skill", where the team with the most of these balls are more likely to win a penalty shoot out than the other. Additionally, one user back in the day claimed he never saw two teams score from a free kick or corner in the same match. The team that did, perhaps had more in set plays. This is a theory I haven't investigated.It would make absolutely no sense for this skill to be dead. I know just about enough about programming to know it would be "easy" to write code that makes all skill count, to various degrees. It could be something as primitive as the simulator giving players an additional small boost per ball, regardless of which skill this ball is in. I'd go a long way saying this is in place already.. A 80-baller tend to play better than a 70-baller, even if their primaries are identical.

Simply leaving a skill for dead, would make absolutely no sense. You wouldn't program the simulator, and then tell your boss "I wasn't able to make set plays count, sorry!".

Perhaps it is extra difficult to measure this skill, because it works in conjunction with so many other skills. And the likeliness of scoring a free-kick is very low to begin with. It would be difficult to see the difference between a 0,4% success-rate on free-kicks and a 2% success-rate.

One rather flamboyant theory is that set plays works as a "team-skill", where the team with the most of these balls are more likely to win a penalty shoot out than the other. Additionally, one user back in the day claimed he never saw two teams score from a free kick or corner in the same match. The team that did, perhaps had more in set plays. This is a theory I haven't investigated.

Re: Why is set plays still a skill? why?

By dowopado - 18-12-2017 20:43

[BotP]

Also, the difficulty in measuring this skill...is because it is normally the last skill to be trained if ever...thus players rarely realize their full potential with the SP skill.

hanzinho wrote:

Perhaps it is extra difficult to measure this skill, because it works in conjunction with so many other skills. And the likeliness of scoring a free-kick is very low to begin with. It would be difficult to see the difference between a 0,4% success-rate on free-kicks and a 2% success-rate.

Also, the difficulty in measuring this skill...is because it is normally the last skill to be trained if ever...thus players rarely realize their full potential with the SP skill.

Re: Why is set plays still a skill? why?

By darkline - 21-12-2017 23:49

[FLUSA]
President

I had once trained a guy to 9 at set plays, put him to take all my penalties and free kicks but I didn't see any benefit, he missed too many PKs and I don't think he was very good at free kicks neither.... it was a few years ago but I don't think the SIM was updated since then.I had once trained a guy to 9 at set plays, put him to take all my penalties and free kicks but I didn't see any benefit, he missed too many PKs and I don't think he was very good at free kicks neither.... it was a few years ago but I don't think the SIM was updated since then.

Re: Why is set plays still a skill? why?

By superdad123 - 22-12-2017 02:03

[ENG]

I think you need to ask yourself,would you buy a striker with 8 balls in shooting and 8 balls in set plays or the striker with 9 balls in shooting and 1 ball in set plays? I see it as 16 balls V 10 balls.I think you need to ask yourself,would you buy a striker with 8 balls in shooting and 8 balls in set plays or the striker with 9 balls in shooting and 1 ball in set plays? I see it as 16 balls V 10 balls.

Re: Why is set plays still a skill? why?

By dowopado - 22-12-2017 05:40

[BotP]

I see the benefit of 16 balls for the team but the question still remains...which would you use to take the pks?

superdad123 wrote:

I think you need to ask yourself,would you buy a striker with 8 balls in shooting and 8 balls in set plays or the striker with 9 balls in shooting and 1 ball in set plays? I see it as 16 balls V 10 balls.

I see the benefit of 16 balls for the team but the question still remains...which would you use to take the pks?

 

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