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Hi , we all know that these days there is so much greed and exuberance , we also know that there is so much poverty , but , when our banks and governments tell us that they are broke or overspent , and, we, as working people, need to make sacrifices, and take the heat, losing jobs, and going into financial worry, etc. well I can see in the blink of an eye how things could make a difference, well ,there are huge money making companies who avoid paying tax , there are bankers , who still get ridiculous bonuses , and there are the lazy ass class, like my new neighbours, they get a 13 week benefits cheque, for doing absolutely nothing, but making low life nuisances of themselves, am I being inhumane or a Nazi for thinking that any of the above is wrong , and what annoys you the most about the headline, do you have any solutions , many thanks for your time and input, its ok to mention space travel , if you feel the need..
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Donald Trump will make America great again don't worry.

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world wide debt haircut
otherwise, stand in the queue to become the next greece

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coconut_wolf_bandit wrote:
Donald Trump will make America great again don't worry.


Gotta agree with the Aussies on this one.

Coconut, are you sure you don't have some Canadian blood?

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aemi wrote:
Gotta agree with the Aussies on this one.

Coconut, are you sure you don't have some Canadian blood?


I have Canadian blood. I stabbed a bloke with my kangaroo tail and he apologised.

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bestplaymaker2134 wrote:
I have Canadian blood. I stabbed a bloke with my kangaroo tail and he apologised.


Give the man the blood back, however it's worth a lot on the black market. And trim your tail too.

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you can sell your blood if you are broke , you can possibly also sell kangaroo tails, which gets us back to the original topic, which I do think is more important to this thread, than the playground antics posted above..

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you do not cure the worlds ills by pulling faces at each other, but Trump and Clinton are having a darn good attempt at it.. up to now you have failed to recoup any of the worlds losses, have a serious look at yourselves.. whilst you are standing in the corner, with your hands on your heads.

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aemi wrote:
Gotta agree with the Aussies on this one.

Coconut, are you sure you don't have some Canadian blood?


I did actually live in Canada for year and bedded some gorgeous Canucks. One may have been a sasquatch. So much hair. Argh my eyes!!!

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coconut_wolf_bandit wrote:
.... bedded some gorgeous Canucks. One may have been a sasquatch. So much hair.


she was probably growing out her winter coat!

or maybe it really was a samsquanch. it can be hard to decipher.
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unfornetelty this is the world we live in where the minority (Poor People and A##h&&&&) have been given a free pass at life i have seen such idiots to do anything they want. there is no way to get out of this mess because there is always going to be people like that and also people like coconut.

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gerrad_08 wrote:
because there is always going to be people like that and also people like coconut.


I feel like I should be taking offence at that... what exactly do you mean?

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coconut_wolf_bandit wrote:
I feel like I should be taking offence at that... what exactly do you mean?


some people actually enjoy there life no matter what

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gerrad_08 wrote:
there is no way to get out of this mess because there is always going to be people... like coconut.


Exactly, Aussies are obsesive about their kangaroos and forget to pay attention to world events. They also change their prime ministers like socks. It's all their fault.

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aemi wrote:
Exactly, Aussies are obsesive about their kangaroos and forget to pay attention to world events. They also change their prime ministers like socks. It's all their fault.




We are just trying to find someone with such a beautiful set of eyes. Oh wait, his are blurred out... thats odd...

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coconut_wolf_bandit wrote:
We are just trying to find someone with such a beautiful set of eyes. Oh wait, his are blurred out... thats odd...


Is not eyes we are looking for in that picture, but why is not his hair blurred too?

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the above question is constructed really awkward, I must have been drunk or something.

anyways, wanted to share with you all this important article related to "infrastructures failing" here is why:

Budgie 9’ Australians who partied in ‘budgie smuggler’ to appear in Malaysian court:

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/budgie-9-australians-who-partied-in-budgie-smuggler-swimsuits-let-off-by-malaysian-court-after-apology

Trump has it wrong, we have to build a big beautiful, tremendous wall around Australia, to keep them in there.

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The Budgie 9 are our national icons.

The hair is identifiable!

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aemi wrote:


Budgie 9’ Australians who partied in ‘budgie smuggler’ to appear in Malaysian court:

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/budgie-9-australians-who-partied-in-budgie-smuggler-swimsuits-let-off-by-malaysian-court-after-apology

Trump has it wrong, we have to build a big beautiful, tremendous wall around Australia, to keep them in there.


Hahaha, I was laughing so hard when I read about them the other day. They somehow got lucky to get away without any conviction. If we as a local people do that, we might go to prison. ;(

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aemi wrote:
Trump has it wrong, we have to build a big beautiful, tremendous wall around Australia, to keep them in there.


... bunch of criminals....

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smiller29 wrote:
... bunch of criminals....


Gold, hahahaha

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You guys are so out of touch

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albeagle wrote:
You guys are so out of touch


They are. Going to other countries and behaving like kangaroos.

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i was just making reference to the fact the British kept dumping all their convicts there in the 1800's. it was colonized as a type of prison. why wouldn't there be walls?

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smiller29 wrote:
i was just making reference to the fact the British kept dumping all their convicts there in the 1800's. it was colonized as a type of prison. why wouldn't there be walls?


That never happened. Nothing but propaganda. I know because I was there.

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smiller29 wrote:
i was just making reference to the fact the British kept dumping all their convicts there in the 1800's. it was colonized as a type of prison. why wouldn't there be walls?


I was researching my family tree and one 3rd or 4th great grandmother came over on a ship holding 85 people, 51 were killed through disease on board during the trip. Both her parent died to said disease so she steps off the boat in a foreign country as an 8 year old orphan. Lacking any real life choices, at the age of 14 she is pregnant and married to a man 20 years older than her and spends the rest of her life with him.

Another 3rd great grandmother we now nothing about other than an 1869 marriage certificate, which says she was married in Victoria at the age 27 in 1869 (putting her birth around 1842 if the age is correct), and a birth certificate for her 3rd child. No known place of birth or death. She never voted and the person she was married to remarried to have 7 kids with another woman. So this leads me to three different conclusions, all of which could be true.

1 - she was indigenous as the only records of indigenous people at the time would have referred to them through their relations with settlers.

2 - she died in childbirth for her third child or soon afterward, as back then you most people married for life and only remarried if their partner died.

3 - she and my 3rd great grandfather divorced (rare at the time, but a few did) and lived a quiet life in which nothing else important happened so no one cared where or when she died. Which given the time period was when the frontier war between settlers and the indigenous population occurred in Victoria, a lot of war crimes were never reported and local government administration was ineffective at best.

Another 2nd or 3rd great grandmother died age 39 in a bar after she appears to have fallen asleep and her liver gave out while she was asleep, as she had been a chronic alcoholic for 14-15 years leading up to that moment. The cause of death is stated as being 'stress'.

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@scruttino, pretty cool though. Sad in a way, of course, but thats how life was back then I presume.

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aemi wrote:
@scruttino, pretty cool though. Sad in a way, of course, but thats how life was back then I presume.


There are some better stories, as the Scrutton line are free folk who migrated to Adelaide from England in the 19th century. Our common Australian Apical ancestor had 15 kids. The line I'm descended from moved to Melbourne from Adelaide in the early 20th century.

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again , why have you drifted away from the point , start your own thread on family trees , start a knitting class , do what you want , but away from this thread, and away from the topic , you bunch of tossers.. should nt the FA s be editing edit that is not related to the thread, to avoid any obvious clashes , this tosser aemi should be banned, or edited off , it is a waste of time trying to hold any kind of open discussion, if you have people coming on and behaving like three year olds , what makes it even worse, is that behaving like a three year old is ok , because three year olds don't edit swear, so open discussion should by changed to ,kiddies corner , total bollocks..

edit - swearing - maria171
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so to get back on topic, I offer you a solution to the problem....

perhaps governments could save money by going back to the method of marooning their convicts as opposed to housing their prisoners in jails for 10 years, 15 years, 25 years or life sentences. think of all the money that could be saved on staff, maintenance and meals. that money could be better served providing massive company bailouts and tiny welfare cheques.

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@smiller23 there are solutions to everything, its not too hard but the powers that be don't want to fix anything. Example a car engine has been invented that runs on water. It had a device that separated oxygen from hydrogen. The car used the hydrogen in water to run. But have you heard of such an invention. No why do you think? Imagine the clean energy they are suppressing. All the money spent in wars that interest only a few could be spent on infrastructure. Its not hard to fix the world. You got families that own half of the words wealth imagine it was evenly shared

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altruism < - - - - > egoism

and since we all love and follow capitalism (one way or another), we can kiss altruism goodbye

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@heddo & albeagle: Have you ever heard of Jacque Fresco's The Venus Project?

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albeagle wrote:
@smiller23 there are solutions to everything, its not too hard but the powers that be don't want to fix anything. Example a car engine has been invented that runs on water. It had a device that separated oxygen from hydrogen. The car used the hydrogen in water to run. But have you heard of such an invention. No why do you think? Imagine the clean energy they are suppressing. All the money spent in wars that interest only a few could be spent on infrastructure. Its not hard to fix the world. You got families that own half of the words wealth imagine it was evenly shared


a lot of money has already been dropped on hydrogen cars and the technology is simply not there.

the cars that split water still operate on a combustion engine and they have not come close to reaching their theoretical efficiencies. as a result they are neither cost efficient nor energy efficient and they are still creating emissions.

hydrogen fuel cell cars are energy efficient but they are so bloody expensive that they are unlikely to ever be available to the public on a mass scale.

hydrogen cars are a better example of governments wasting their money as opposed to government suppressing technology for long term financial gain.

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smiller29 what youre mentioning are just bs they tell you on tv and magazines. Im telling you that a car running on water like just taking a bottle of water as fuel for the car has been invented. But would it benefit the big oil companies? No. I don't think youre getting my point. But all Im saying is that if the powers that be wanted to, you would not have wars, you would not have disease you would not have to work like a slave. No starving people, no poverty. There would be no drugs, and any sick thing you see in the world today. Just take disease. There are actually no cures for any diseases. Is it a coincidence. Big pharma wants you depended on medication because is money for them if you keep paying for medications. How hard is that to understand.

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@micca I have not heard of the Venus Project. Whats about?

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smiller29 what youre mentioning are just bs they tell you on tv and magazines. Im telling you that a car running on water like just taking a bottle of water as fuel for the car has been invented. But would it benefit the big oil companies? No. I don't think youre getting my point. But all Im saying is that if the powers that be wanted to, you would not have wars, you would not have disease you would not have to work like a slave. No starving people, no poverty. There would be no drugs, and any sick thing you see in the world today. Just take disease. There are actually no cures for any diseases. Is it a coincidence. Big pharma wants you depended on medication because is money for them if you keep paying for medications. How hard is that to understand.


cars that operate on solar panels exist too. I personally worked on a solar car team while doing my engineering degree in university. that doesn't mean it's energy efficient or cost efficient. and if those 2 things don't exist, then neither does a mass produced version of the car.

there's no cures for any diseases? have you not had any vaccinations? I get them for free (government funded) all the time. don't really worry about getting polio or TB anymore. that's a good feeling!

and I agree that war is profitable for many companies (many government friendly companies), it's not realistic to think that we could live in a war free world. how is every country, every religion, every person's way of thinking going to suddenly line up in a parallel, forward thinking blissful utopia? that's not a realistic expectation. if regular human greed doesn't break the peace, certainly some form of mental illness or prejudice will.

hey, we all LOVE the idea of everybody working for similar wages towards a common goal. the problem is, communism only works in theory!

and just a quick fyi as far as war spending - America's military budget puts the rest of the world's to shame. in fact, it's pretty much the rest of the world's military budget combined.
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and just to clarify a few things:

1) I am aware that a vaccine is not a "cure" but giving a person a single injection (possibly with the need of a booster) and allowing their own body to build it's own antibodies is about as close to a cure as you can get. you can't eliminate the disease entirely because you'll never get 100% of people (and animals) vaccinated, but vaccines are about as close to a 1 shot deal as you're going to get? what more could you realistically ask for?

2) My point about the US's Military spending is only meant to show that what is considered a problem in America (overspending on "homeland defense") is not necessarily considered a problem in other countries.
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albeagle wrote:
Im telling you that a car running on water like just taking a bottle of water as fuel for the car has been invented.


ok, so I have my bottle of water - how do I make it go?

how does the water start splitting back into it's component elements?

does the car do this on it's own or does it require power from some other source? say a fuel cell or a combustion engine or possibly from an electric battery which requires power made from an alternate source..... a source that is still going to generate emissions.

the only way that water is taking me from point A to point B is if I use it on a water slide.
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smiller29 wrote:
the cars that split water still operate on a combustion engine and they have not come close to reaching their theoretical efficiencies. as a result they are neither cost efficient nor energy efficient and they are still creating emissions.


Don't touch the water supply, is like touching a kangaroo in his private area. Water is life and should be used to grow food and for people to drink.

As smiller29 has said, you need to start the car on gas, drive around on gas and when you have reached optimal speed then the car can operate on water under conditions. The electric car is the way to go, IMO. Much more practical.

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that money could be better served providing massive company bailouts and tiny welfare cheques.


Hahaha!

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i agree that electric cars will eventually win out.

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vaccines don't cure anything they actually do you harm.

smiller29 wrote:
ok, so I have
my bottle of water - how do I make it go?

how does the water start splitting back into it's component elements?

does the car do this on it's own or does it require power from some other source? say a fuel cell or a combustion engine or possibly from an electric battery which requires power made from an alternate source..... a source that is still going to generate emissions.

the only way that water is taking me from point A to point B is if I use it on a water slide.


Im not an expert all I know is that a vehicle running on water as fuel was invented. It had a device that separated hydrogen from oxygen if you know your chemistry that would make more sense.

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the food industry will kill you before the vaccines do

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the food industry will kill you before the vaccines do


i agree with that too. there's so much crap in our food today that the real "disease" now is cancer and cancer is basically man made. it's a product of our lifestyles. purely preventable if we could go back 100 years or so.

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We are poisoned in many ways. Food, water, air, vaccines, deodorants, hair products, make up and so on. They are killing us slowly.

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albeagle wrote:
We are poisoned in many ways. Food, water, air, vaccines, deodorants, hair products, make up and so on. They are killing us slowly.


Yet life expectancy in 2016 is 81.2 for women and 76.4 for men.
In 1916 it was 49.6 for women and 54.3 for men.

As to how this pertains to failing financial infrastructures???
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Thank god for modern medicine with its vaccines and pills !

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dowopado have you checked the cancer rates?

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aldebaran wrote:
Thank god for modern medicine with its vaccines and pills !


aren't we lucky

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is it right that our governments should actually be paying young couples with only one child , living in a rented property , basically paying them everything , sponsoring their lives , coming from the tax payers coffers, then this couple then saying, ok , we can manage , we do not need to work , then the working taxpayers are told , oh , there needs to be a delay in when you can access your pension from 65 to 67 , this has been happening in the uk since the early 80 s, and in the last ten years the wake up toll for paying for wars, and bailing out irresponsible bankers ,and uk euro countries who went broke, the way of balancing the books is to punish those who have worked the longest , by telling them that they cannot retire , and yet the bankers can still be irresponsible , the young unemployed can still live as normal , they do not even have to leave their homes to go looking for work, then they start banging on about the health service , and how they have painstakingly made it the best in the world , but it still needs to be improved , it is a political pawn , we have seen how European economies have collapsed and fallen and failed , but the uk is not so far away , they are bluffing , it is impossible to exist and survive when the shortfalls, and trips are so clear and easy to see..
 
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