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now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By gatto13 - 04-06-2016 17:28

[FALCO]

hi, the new sim has widened the gap between the two styles of play, it is now impossible to win against the game on the wings ...... with all the claims being made, you only teased the comunity and increased the boredom bug on wings .....This is the reality....I hope that you are not blind and, from next season throw it in the toilet this sim to really balance the game and not let us sleep as we watch the 3d . why in the wing tactic the players pass the ball immediately is impossible fight ... ..why with 2 skills in cross the player passes a perfect ball to the wings ..... how a player with 9 shooting and 7 header and 8 control can score 44 goals in 15 games in 1.div......this is ridiculous not see it ?????????????????? . P.s.: excuse my poor english.hi, the new sim has widened the gap between the two styles of play, it is now impossible to win against the game on the wings ...... with all the claims being made, you only teased the comunity and increased the boredom bug on wings .....This is the reality....I hope that you are not blind and, from next season throw it in the toilet this sim to really balance the game and not let us sleep as we watch the 3d
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why in the wing tactic the players pass the ball immediately is impossible fight ... ..why with 2 skills in cross the player passes a perfect ball to the wings ..... how a player with 9 shooting and 7 header and 8 control can score 44 goals in 15 games in 1.div......this is ridiculous not see it ??????????????????
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P.s.: excuse my poor english.

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Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By ildraco - 06-06-2016 18:43

[BNL3]

Maybe You just don't have good wing players?Maybe You just don't have good wing players?

Ri: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By gatto13 - 06-06-2016 23:18

[FALCO]

I just wanted to point out that had been openly declared that the new sim would have equated the two most used playing styles, but it's the opposite happened, and now the game on the wings is stronger than before ...... now it is impossible to beat the game to wings ..... everyone plays in the same way, it was created a boring yawn ...... can not win the game only who has the strongest wing ..... is so obvious how absurd this sim is...overturns the values in the field. . why the worst team wins every time the game? I stop playing if I have to build the worst team to win the game !!!was openly declared, "" the new sim balance the playing styles "" the opposite has happened !!!!I just wanted to point out that had been openly declared that the new sim would have equated the two most used playing styles, but it's the opposite happened, and now the game on the wings is stronger than before ...... now it is impossible to beat the game to wings ..... everyone plays in the same way, it was created a boring yawn ...... can not win the game only who has the strongest wing ..... is so obvious how absurd this sim is...overturns the values in the field.
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why the worst team wins every time the game? I stop playing if I have to build the worst team to win the game !!!was openly declared, "" the new sim balance the playing styles "" the opposite has happened !!!!

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By smiller29 - 07-06-2016 04:11

[BotP]

I personally don't agree with you based on my own team statistics. Last year I won the Canadian CSL with a record of 18 W - 2 D - 2 L and a +55 goal differential. This year I am 9 W - 2 D - 5 L with only a +8 goal differential I obviously play wings but many of the teams in my division do not. I have the EXACT same team this year as last with no significant deteriorations and have played pretty much the identical tactic. Last season I felt I overachieved but this year has been my worst in about 4-5 seasons. The only thing that has really changed is the sim......I personally don't agree with you based on my own team statistics.

Last year I won the Canadian CSL with a record of 18 W - 2 D - 2 L and a +55 goal differential.

This year I am 9 W - 2 D - 5 L with only a +8 goal differential

I obviously play wings but many of the teams in my division do not. I have the EXACT same team this year as last with no significant deteriorations and have played pretty much the identical tactic.

Last season I felt I overachieved but this year has been my worst in about 4-5 seasons. The only thing that has really changed is the sim......

Ri: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By gatto13 - 08-06-2016 13:15

[FALCO]

hi, I saw that most of the lots have lost to the game on the wings, but for me instead to equalize the playing styles,the new sim have reduced the differences between strong teams and weak teams by flattening the landscape, if the difference between 2 teams was 30 is now 10 .... you can lose any game with even more weak teams .....this is not ""justice"". Sorry but my english is bad, i cannot explaine me exactly!hi, I saw that most of the lots have lost to the game on the wings, but for me instead to equalize the playing styles,the new sim have reduced the differences between strong teams and weak teams by flattening the landscape, if the difference between 2 teams was 30 is now 10 .... you can lose any game with even more weak teams .....this is not ""justice"".
Sorry but my english is bad, i cannot explaine me exactly!

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By nanyc8 - 19-12-2016 19:43

Even with my best defender 10 balls tackling (4 defenders tactic), the winger escapes and center the ball 24 times in a match. This is a lot of boring for both: winner and loser. Whats the point of this? Where is the fun? This is ridiculous.Even with my best defender 10 balls tackling (4 defenders tactic), the winger escapes and center the ball 24 times in a match. This is a lot of boring for both: winner and loser. Whats the point of this? Where is the fun? This is ridiculous.

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By aemi - 20-12-2016 02:52

[Canada]

This is so painful to watch.

nanyc8 wrote:

Even with my best defender 10 balls tackling (4 defenders tactic), the winger escapes and center the ball 24 times in a match.

This is so painful to watch.

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By nanyc8 - 21-12-2016 11:57

The winger tactics has a decisive advantage in a match between two similar teams. That is more than obvious. Fix that please.The winger tactics has a decisive advantage in a match between two similar teams. That is more than obvious. Fix that please.

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By azkaban-za - 01-07-2017 00:25

[ᴀғяιcᴀ]
President

I agree [:S]

aemi wrote:

This is so painful to watch.

I agree :S

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By unknown_st - 22-04-2018 17:48

[MZUSA]

Not asking for a complete nerf, but christ. Funny to see all the stable Top flight teams use the wing tactic. Getting lame. Might as well screw the membership. Boring losses can be had for free.Not asking for a complete nerf, but christ. Funny to see all the stable Top flight teams use the wing tactic. Getting lame. Might as well screw the membership. Boring losses can be had for free.

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By ayoka - 27-04-2018 00:59

[MZ]

yeah the top flight in England has also become boring, no one wants to play real football it's just a 3 man game- 1 passes to the winger, winger runs 50 yards and crosses, striker scores uncontested header past a stationary keeper.

unknown_st wrote:

Not asking for a complete nerf, but christ. Funny to see all the stable Top flight teams use the wing tactic. Getting lame. Might as well screw the membership. Boring losses can be had for free.

yeah the top flight in England has also become boring, no one wants to play real football it's just a 3 man game- 1 passes to the winger, winger runs 50 yards and crosses, striker scores uncontested header past a stationary keeper.

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By foxesrus - 30-06-2018 10:41

[ENG]

It is not impossible to win but it is very boring to watch the INSTANT pass to the winger, little run down the wing,cross then the strikers header coming off the bar into the goalkeepers hands....this happens too often in a single match!!It is not impossible to win but it is very boring to watch the INSTANT pass to the winger, little run down the wing,cross then the strikers header coming off the bar into the goalkeepers hands....this happens too often in a single match!!

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By aemi - 28-08-2018 03:52

[Canada]

Yeah, but now you can watch all of this on 3D.

foxesrus wrote:

It is not impossible to win but it is very boring to watch the INSTANT pass to the winger, little run down the wing,cross then the strikers header coming off the bar into the goalkeepers hands....this happens too often in a single match!!

Yeah, but now you can watch all of this on 3D.

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By akeller93 - 27-09-2018 23:23

[MZ]

I agree! It is very difficult to prevent the pass to the wing ... The whole defense runs just behind the wing and gives the striker a free kick ... The defenders do not intercept the passes for the striker ... And the attackers hit more the goal that penalties ... Something is wrong kkkkkkkkkI agree! It is very difficult to prevent the pass to the wing ...
The whole defense runs just behind the wing and gives the striker a free kick ...
The defenders do not intercept the passes for the striker ...
And the attackers hit more the goal that penalties ...
Something is wrong kkkkkkkkk

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By cahndez0 - 12-02-2019 12:35

[MIC]

Why we lose against wing strategy ? Striker have 9-10 ball in 1.speed 2.stamina 3.intelligence 4.shoot 5.heading 6.ball control. count 70 ball in all attribute. and only need to train from youth 16 yrs to 24-27 yrs all above was maximum. Feeders have 9-10 ball in 1.speed 2.stamina 3.intelligence 4.ball control 5.Aerial Passing count 60 ball in all attribute. and only need to train from youth 16 yrs to 22-25 yrs all above was maximum. But no defender with 9-10 ball in 1. speed, 2. stamina, 3. intelligence, 4. passing, 5. heading 6. ball control, 7. tackle and 8. aerial passing, and need to train from youth 16 yrs to 25-30 yrs all above was maximum. no one defender have 80 ball, for above skill. including keeping and set plays may take 10 ball. once your defender have same amount of striker, chance will be 50:50.Why we lose against wing strategy ?

Striker have 9-10 ball in
1.speed
2.stamina
3.intelligence
4.shoot
5.heading
6.ball control.
count 70 ball in all attribute.
and only need to train from youth 16 yrs to 24-27 yrs all above was maximum.

Feeders have 9-10 ball in
1.speed
2.stamina
3.intelligence
4.ball control
5.Aerial Passing
count 60 ball in all attribute.
and only need to train from youth 16 yrs to 22-25 yrs all above was maximum.

But no defender with 9-10 ball in
1. speed,
2. stamina,
3. intelligence,
4. passing,
5. heading
6. ball control,
7. tackle and
8. aerial passing,
and need to train from youth 16 yrs to 25-30 yrs all above was maximum.

no one defender have 80 ball, for above skill.
including keeping and set plays may take 10 ball.

once your defender have same amount of striker, chance will be 50:50.

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By chucky06 - 13-02-2019 11:07

[AUSNZ]
President

I advise you go and watch some of the top World League matches and top series of particular countries like China and Argentina. Everyone isn’t using wings, there’s good counter-tactics available too. Do some research. Alternative is to play wings yourself. If you believe it’s the best tactic then get on board rather than complain or get left behind.I advise you go and watch some of the top World League matches and top series of particular countries like China and Argentina.

Everyone isn’t using wings, there’s good counter-tactics available too. Do some research.

Alternative is to play wings yourself. If you believe it’s the best tactic then get on board rather than complain or get left behind.

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By deleted_8537346 - 13-02-2019 16:56

Easy logics say: If opponent uses wing tactics, then neutralize the birds so team can't fly neither get support from the sky. Or close the nest, where the eggs hatch. .Easy logics say:

If opponent uses wing tactics, then neutralize the birds so team can't fly neither get support from the sky.
Or close the nest, where the eggs hatch.

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Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By hypnosis - 14-02-2019 13:48

[ᴀғʀɪᴄᴀ]

Hehe

aemi wrote:

This is so painful to watch.

Hehe

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By hypnosis - 14-02-2019 13:49

[ᴀғʀɪᴄᴀ]

Interesting, but it all depends on the quality of your team

raamatupood wrote:

Easy logics say:

If opponent uses wing tactics, then neutralize the birds so team can't fly neither get support from the sky.
Or close the nest, where the eggs hatch.

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Interesting, but it all depends on the quality of your team

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By manhackerjr - 19-02-2019 13:52

[TDF]

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=1062566235https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=1062566235

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By clubismodp - 03-03-2019 13:30

It depends on the quality of your team really. I have seen people in tactics like 3-5-2 playing on Short Passes beating Wing players...It depends on the quality of your team really. I have seen people in tactics like 3-5-2 playing on Short Passes beating Wing players...

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By metalavenger10 - 07-03-2019 22:28

[MZ]

Maybe they should make heading useful for defenders too, so they have a chance to intercept a crossing. Now the only way to counter a wing tactic is trying to stop the winger from crossing. Once he crosses, you can just pray for his header to miss.Maybe they should make heading useful for defenders too, so they have a chance to intercept a crossing. Now the only way to counter a wing tactic is trying to stop the winger from crossing. Once he crosses, you can just pray for his header to miss.

Ce: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By boybads - 25-03-2019 21:41

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Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By wald-ainsebaa - 16-10-2019 13:57

see that match xd https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=1100733862&tid=1099941see that match xd

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=1100733862&tid=1099941

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By chucky06 - 16-10-2019 14:19

[AUSNZ]
President

Why is that result so surprising?

wald-ainsebaa wrote:

see that match xd

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=1100733862&tid=1099941

Why is that result so surprising?

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By wald-ainsebaa - 16-10-2019 20:17

i say look result tackitc

chucky06 wrote:

Why is that result so surprising?

i say look result tackitc

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By chucky06 - 18-10-2019 06:21

[AUSNZ]
President

The result looks fair to me. Besides youth level, a 3-3 defense is terrible. Also not playing a back 4 or 5 against wings is always going to cause your opponent to have lots of shots = lots of goals. Fair result to meThe result looks fair to me. Besides youth level, a 3-3 defense is terrible.

Also not playing a back 4 or 5 against wings is always going to cause your opponent to have lots of shots = lots of goals.

Fair result to me

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By ghazbaran - 21-10-2019 04:54

[BotP]

I agree =/

aemi wrote:

This is so painful to watch.

I agree =/

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By charef (FA) (NC) - 21-10-2019 20:56

[PV]

It's better to play with 4 or 5 defenders on the same line. Otherwise i don't see a solution.It's better to play with 4 or 5 defenders on the same line. Otherwise i don't see a solution.

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By ghazbaran - 27-10-2019 02:54

[BotP]

Yes, that's right!

charef wrote:

It's better to play with 4 or 5 defenders on the same line. Otherwise i don't see a solution.

Yes, that's right!

Re: now is impossible to win against the game on the wings !

By webregas - 01-10-2020 16:21

[ENG]

A clarification on the sim roadmap next 12months would be helpful 👍A clarification on the sim roadmap next 12months would be helpful 👍

 

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