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By rockstarroberts - 04-08-2013 21:46

I keep getting destroyed in faceoffs. I know it's random, but this is ridiculousI keep getting destroyed in faceoffs. I know it's random, but this is ridiculous

 

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Re: faceoff battle

By deleted_5240478 - 04-08-2013 21:57

It's not that random. You need a few skills to win this.It's not that random. You need a few skills to win this.

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By rockstarroberts - 04-08-2013 22:27

like what, I know checking is supposed to do something, but I put someone there with good amount of pucks in checking and he got destroyed, it's randomlike what, I know checking is supposed to do something, but I put someone there with good amount of pucks in checking and he got destroyed, it's random

Re: faceoff battle

By deleted_5240478 - 04-08-2013 23:05

I believe Puck control and PI have a influenceI believe Puck control and PI have a influence

Re: faceoff battle

By rockstarroberts - 04-08-2013 23:12

no, I had a guy with puck control too, and PI does nothingno, I had a guy with puck control too, and PI does nothing

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By underdog74 - 04-08-2013 23:39

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Don't forget quickness.Don't forget quickness.

Re: faceoff battle

By rockstarroberts - 05-08-2013 00:21

quickness does not affect faceoffsquickness does not affect faceoffs

Re: faceoff battle

By omarthesilk - 05-08-2013 02:10

Puck control. I pretty much kill every opponent in faceoffs, even when I am totally outmatched.Puck control. I pretty much kill every opponent in faceoffs, even when I am totally outmatched.

Re: faceoff battle

By rockstarroberts - 05-08-2013 02:46

i'll do it then, I can still finish top 3, it will be difficulti'll do it then, I can still finish top 3, it will be difficult

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By chowders - 05-08-2013 15:33

My players with high PC tend to do better in face offs.My players with high PC tend to do better in face offs.

Re: faceoff battle

By toldan - 06-08-2013 00:37

he is right. with more puck control on your center you will have more chance to win the face offs. is the only skill that matters for this.

omarthesilk wrote:

Puck control. I pretty much kill every opponent in faceoffs, even when I am totally outmatched.

he is right. with more puck control on your center you will have more chance to win the face offs. is the only skill that matters for this.

Re: faceoff battle

By malkin78 - 08-08-2013 07:15

These are the faceoff stats for my four centres during league play this season. W L 1. Ramiro Kelly 36 21 63% (6 Puck Control) 2. Blaine Obrien 28 23 55% (3 PC) 3. Ronald Wiggins 22 16 58% (7 PC) 4. Mieszko Walczak 12 15 44% (2 PC)These are the faceoff stats for my four centres during league play this season.
W L
1. Ramiro Kelly 36 21 63% (6 Puck Control)
2. Blaine Obrien 28 23 55% (3 PC)
3. Ronald Wiggins 22 16 58% (7 PC)
4. Mieszko Walczak 12 15 44% (2 PC)

Re: faceoff battle

By rockstarroberts - 09-08-2013 01:40

your league must be weak or something, 3 PC and 55% doesnt make any sense, the same with Walczakyour league must be weak or something, 3 PC and 55% doesnt make any sense, the same with Walczak

Re: faceoff battle

By oilercountry - 09-08-2013 20:29

I think PC is important, but there's definitely other skills that contribute towards face-off percentage. I'm in your league roberts (as you know), and here is the breakdown of my face-offs. Luis Gustavo Lopez - 59 FW 23 FL 71.95% Cameron McQueen - 46 FW 22 FL 67.64% Valor Mavrogheni - 20 FW 11 FL 64.52% Roosevelt Medrano - 3 FW 6 FL 33.33% LGL, with the highest percentage, only has 3 PC. BUT, he has 9 CHK and 6 PI, the two other skills I believe may have some influence (CHK > PI). McQueen, with a slightly lower percentage, is way different. He has 7 PC, but only 2 CHK (and 2 PI). Mavrogheni has 5 PC (just hit 5, was 4 for most of the current season) and 6 CHK. Medrano has 4 PC and 3 CHK (hit 3 a week ago), and thus, the worst face-off percentage. Maybe Malkin's players with low PC but high face-off percentages have high checking. That's my guess.I think PC is important, but there's definitely other skills that contribute towards face-off percentage.

I'm in your league roberts (as you know), and here is the breakdown of my face-offs.

Luis Gustavo Lopez - 59 FW 23 FL 71.95%
Cameron McQueen - 46 FW 22 FL 67.64%
Valor Mavrogheni - 20 FW 11 FL 64.52%
Roosevelt Medrano - 3 FW 6 FL 33.33%

LGL, with the highest percentage, only has 3 PC. BUT, he has 9 CHK and 6 PI, the two other skills I believe may have some influence (CHK > PI). McQueen, with a slightly lower percentage, is way different. He has 7 PC, but only 2 CHK (and 2 PI). Mavrogheni has 5 PC (just hit 5, was 4 for most of the current season) and 6 CHK. Medrano has 4 PC and 3 CHK (hit 3 a week ago), and thus, the worst face-off percentage.

Maybe Malkin's players with low PC but high face-off percentages have high checking. That's my guess.

Re: faceoff battle

By oilercountry - 09-08-2013 22:08

To the contrary Roberts, I believe his league is much stronger than ours. I just played him, lost, and won 13% of the faceoffs. What I noticed from looking at his record (and the way he pounded me), your players tend to win a majority of faceoffs when you win. If you lose, you're probably not going to get much higher than 50-55%, assuming its a close game.To the contrary Roberts, I believe his league is much stronger than ours. I just played him, lost, and won 13% of the faceoffs. What I noticed from looking at his record (and the way he pounded me), your players tend to win a majority of faceoffs when you win. If you lose, you're probably not going to get much higher than 50-55%, assuming its a close game.

Re: faceoff battle

By rockstarroberts - 09-08-2013 23:32

well it's my turn to take him on, I'll send doubles for the 19th next weekwell it's my turn to take him on, I'll send doubles for the 19th next week

Re: faceoff battle

By malkin78 - 12-08-2013 09:21

I try not to play friendlies on Mondays, challenge me on Tuesday instead. My league is top heavy right now, with myself and one other team being much stronger than anyone else in the division. If you take us out of the way, the strength of the leagues are probably pretty similar I bet. I just played the other top team in my division and got massacred in the faceoff circle. Here are updated stats with Checking and partial pucks gained from training included (all have 1-3 Play Intelligence so didn't check that): 1. Ramiro Kelly 37 26 (59%) 6.2 PC; 8 Che 2. Blaine Obrien 30 28 (52%) 3.9 PC; 6 Che 3. Ronald Wiggins 23 23 (50%) 7.0 PC; 8 Che 4. Mieszko Walczak 14 17 (45%) 2.7 PC; 7 Che I also played 3 Instant Matches with the same team and results in the faceoff dot varied widely, but mostly none of my centres got to 50% against that opponent. Ronald Wiggins went 1 for 8 in the league game but fared much better in the instant matches, just a fluke he did so badly in that game I believe, with 7 PC and 8 checking he should do better.I try not to play friendlies on Mondays, challenge me on Tuesday instead.

My league is top heavy right now, with myself and one other team being much stronger than anyone else in the division. If you take us out of the way, the strength of the leagues are probably pretty similar I bet. I just played the other top team in my division and got massacred in the faceoff circle. Here are updated stats with Checking and partial pucks gained from training included (all have 1-3 Play Intelligence so didn't check that):

1. Ramiro Kelly 37 26 (59%) 6.2 PC; 8 Che
2. Blaine Obrien 30 28 (52%) 3.9 PC; 6 Che
3. Ronald Wiggins 23 23 (50%) 7.0 PC; 8 Che
4. Mieszko Walczak 14 17 (45%) 2.7 PC; 7 Che

I also played 3 Instant Matches with the same team and results in the faceoff dot varied widely, but mostly none of my centres got to 50% against that opponent. Ronald Wiggins went 1 for 8 in the league game but fared much better in the instant matches, just a fluke he did so badly in that game I believe, with 7 PC and 8 checking he should do better.

Re: faceoff battle

By krunkymunky - 12-08-2013 16:13

I too have done some basic analysis on my team's faceoff percentage. I've considered PC to be the least important skill overall to train, so none of my players have very much in it. Here are my team's last 20 or so league game stats: Wayne Gifford: 55 won/97 lost (36.2%) 3 PI, 2 PC, 7 Check Stacy Tillman: 60 won/85 lost (41.4%) 10 PI, 1 PC, 7 Check Clayton Cho: 95 won/86 lost (52.5%) 8 PI, 2 PC, 8 Check Laurence Varner: 54 won/53 lost (50.5%) 7 PI, 3 PC, 9 Check Correlation in Excel gives a value of 0.47 to PI, 0.48 to PC and because malkin included Checking in his stats I get a whopping 0.81 for Checking.I too have done some basic analysis on my team's faceoff percentage. I've considered PC to be the least important skill overall to train, so none of my players have very much in it. Here are my team's last 20 or so league game stats:

Wayne Gifford: 55 won/97 lost (36.2%) 3 PI, 2 PC, 7 Check
Stacy Tillman: 60 won/85 lost (41.4%) 10 PI, 1 PC, 7 Check
Clayton Cho: 95 won/86 lost (52.5%) 8 PI, 2 PC, 8 Check
Laurence Varner: 54 won/53 lost (50.5%) 7 PI, 3 PC, 9 Check

Correlation in Excel gives a value of 0.47 to PI, 0.48 to PC and because malkin included Checking in his stats I get a whopping 0.81 for Checking.

Re: faceoff battle

By joelsaunier - 21-08-2013 15:57

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I would go for Power, Skating, Stamina, in that orderI would go for Power, Skating, Stamina, in that order

 

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