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Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamie1976 - 20-10-2012 07:51

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Last night Leeds fans not only only rioted and delivered offensive chanting but one of them invaded the pitch mid game to seriously assault Sheffield Wednesday goalie Chris Kirkland. If that was not enough the Leeds fans then protected the person that did this and rather than giving him up for arrest he was protected within their group. I would be interested to know what people think their punishment should be? For the record John Terry was fined £220,000 and banned for four games for a racist comment. Surely assault, an imprison-able offense is far worse, and it is an event that the club have not sought to address correctly, the players of Leeds applauding fans after the game is evidence of that. Luton were fined 30 points for financial issues, again I feel this is worse. Therefore I think the minimum penalty for Leeds should be a large financial penalty of at least £500,000 and a points deduction of 60 points. It may sound harsh but this is the worst event I can remember in English football in a long time. Would be good to know what others think.Last night Leeds fans not only only rioted and delivered offensive chanting but one of them invaded the pitch mid game to seriously assault Sheffield Wednesday goalie Chris Kirkland. If that was not enough the Leeds fans then protected the person that did this and rather than giving him up for arrest he was protected within their group.

I would be interested to know what people think their punishment should be? For the record John Terry was fined £220,000 and banned for four games for a racist comment. Surely assault, an imprison-able offense is far worse, and it is an event that the club have not sought to address correctly, the players of Leeds applauding fans after the game is evidence of that.

Luton were fined 30 points for financial issues, again I feel this is worse. Therefore I think the minimum penalty for Leeds should be a large financial penalty of at least £500,000 and a points deduction of 60 points.

It may sound harsh but this is the worst event I can remember in English football in a long time. Would be good to know what others think.

 

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Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By nomercyurz - 20-10-2012 08:40

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Dirty Leeds, the FA should deduct 20-30 points, fine them £1 million (as this will hopefully bankrupt them as Ken Bates is desparate to sell as they are skint) and ban Leeds fans from all away grounds for the rest of the season, and the numpty should be jailed for at least 2-5 years for assault. Knowing the FA though they will probably just give them a suspended sentance and a warning, soft arses!Dirty Leeds, the FA should deduct 20-30 points, fine them £1 million (as this will hopefully bankrupt them as Ken Bates is desparate to sell as they are skint) and ban Leeds fans from all away grounds for the rest of the season, and the numpty should be jailed for at least 2-5 years for assault. Knowing the FA though they will probably just give them a suspended sentance and a warning, soft arses!

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By nomercyurz - 20-10-2012 08:45

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and after prison the idiot should be banned from all football grounds for life as should any of the scum that through bottles and ripped up seatsand after prison the idiot should be banned from all football grounds for life as should any of the scum that through bottles and ripped up seats

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By nomercyurz - 20-10-2012 08:45

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*threw*threw

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamie1976 - 20-10-2012 10:56

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Singing praises for Jimmy Saville was odd as well..Singing praises for Jimmy Saville was odd as well..

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By paul84 - 20-10-2012 14:31

Hi guys, I'm a Leeds supporter and have been all my life and i wear the shirt home and away with pride. The Luton town example above is completely irrelevant in this particular discussion. Leeds have also been deducted 25 points in recent history due to financial mis-management at the club. It's totally different - Anyway... All Leeds united supporters club coaches were stopped and searched by the police going into hillsboro yesterday. This thug is not a Leeds United supporter, nor is he from Leeds - turns out he actually has a banning order already - and shouldn't even be in the city Leeds are playing in on the day of a game. Solution: Bring in photo ID at the turnstile which is validated against a database of banning orders. In terms of punishment - He should be punished NOT Leeds united. Jail him for life, fine Leeds United and Sheffield Wednesday as appropriate for policing costs incurred as well as any costs associated to the investigation to find him and lock him up but i have to draw the line there. More relevant is the example from last season when a hearts fan went onto the field of play and attacked Neil Lennon. The thug in question received an 8 month jail sentance. Were Hearts docked points in that example? I don't believe so but i couldn't confirm nor deny from looking online. Now because of people like Jamie above i do fear that the English FA will use this as an opportunity to give Leeds a kick to keep us down. Banning our fans from away grounds? I don't think thats the solution. Nobody likes Leeds United and thats ok but things are not like they were in the 70's. Leeds United fans have had some great trips on the road this season and we are everybodys highest gate in the football championship. Banning our fans from away grounds is the wrong move in my opinion. I shouldn't have to give up my right to be able to support the football club i love. Additionally, as I'm probably more informed than most of you. I feel there are other questions which should be asked by the FA, such as - Was the referee up to such a big game like that yorkshire derby last night? He was out of his depth from the first kick. Secondly, who plans the fixture list? Who on earth thought a Friday night derby between Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday was a good idea? It's the first time we've played Wednesday in a while and it was always going to be emotional especially with many of our staff ex-Sheffield Utd. Jail him and throw away the key but don't dock Leeds United points - we are co-operating 100% with the authorities investigating. Paul.Hi guys,

I'm a Leeds supporter and have been all my life and i wear the shirt home and away with pride. The Luton town example above is completely irrelevant in this particular discussion. Leeds have also been deducted 25 points in recent history due to financial mis-management at the club. It's totally different - Anyway...

All Leeds united supporters club coaches were stopped and searched by the police going into hillsboro yesterday. This thug is not a Leeds United supporter, nor is he from Leeds - turns out he actually has a banning order already - and shouldn't even be in the city Leeds are playing in on the day of a game. Solution: Bring in photo ID at the turnstile which is validated against a database of banning orders.

In terms of punishment - He should be punished NOT Leeds united. Jail him for life, fine Leeds United and Sheffield Wednesday as appropriate for policing costs incurred as well as any costs associated to the investigation to find him and lock him up but i have to draw the line there.

More relevant is the example from last season when a hearts fan went onto the field of play and attacked Neil Lennon. The thug in question received an 8 month jail sentance. Were Hearts docked points in that example? I don't believe so but i couldn't confirm nor deny from looking online.

Now because of people like Jamie above i do fear that the English FA will use this as an opportunity to give Leeds a kick to keep us down. Banning our fans from away grounds? I don't think thats the solution.

Nobody likes Leeds United and thats ok but things are not like they were in the 70's. Leeds United fans have had some great trips on the road this season and we are everybodys highest gate in the football championship. Banning our fans from away grounds is the wrong move in my opinion. I shouldn't have to give up my right to be able to support the football club i love.

Additionally, as I'm probably more informed than most of you. I feel there are other questions which should be asked by the FA, such as - Was the referee up to such a big game like that yorkshire derby last night? He was out of his depth from the first kick. Secondly, who plans the fixture list? Who on earth thought a Friday night derby between Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday was a good idea? It's the first time we've played Wednesday in a while and it was always going to be emotional especially with many of our staff ex-Sheffield Utd.

Jail him and throw away the key but don't dock Leeds United points - we are co-operating 100% with the authorities investigating.

Paul.

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By paul84 - 20-10-2012 14:41

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/14/hearts-fan-neil-lennonhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/14/hearts-fan-neil-lennon

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamiescfc2010 - 20-10-2012 14:45

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they need banning as they got a reputation as some of the dirtiest thugs apart from Millwall [:$]they need banning as they got a reputation as some of the dirtiest thugs apart from Millwall :$

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By paul84 - 20-10-2012 14:47

All of us? I've never even had a parking ticket. Give me a break.

jamiescfc2010 wrote:

they need banning as they got a reputation as some of the dirtiest thugs apart from Millwall :$

All of us? I've never even had a parking ticket. Give me a break.

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamiescfc2010 - 20-10-2012 14:58

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It doesn't take much to provoke you is it Paul?It doesn't take much to provoke you is it Paul?

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamie1976 - 20-10-2012 15:07

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There were a sizeable group of Leeds fans out of their seats and around the goal, and you can see on the footage a number of them celebrating the guy punching the goalkeeper. Not shopping him to the Police, and so far it appears the Police are still looking for him. If you know who he is Paul, shop him, that simple. Your post implies you do, unless you have more up to date news than the rest of us. Then there is the groups of Leeds fans that were heard by everyone watching the game singing "Jimmy Savile, he f***s who he wants" and so on. So that is the Leeds supporters celebrating child abuse... Not one fan, a large group of fans. It is disgusting. Then Warnock and the players go and applaud them.. endorsing what has been done. That is why the club should be punished, because they are not taking any responsibility for the behavior of their fans. With the rioting and bottle throwing, plus attacking players and celebrating a son of Leeds being a child abuser, I think that something has to be done. I appreciate that there will be plenty of decent Leeds fans, all clubs will have a few twits in the support, but last night was about more than just one bloke.There were a sizeable group of Leeds fans out of their seats and around the goal, and you can see on the footage a number of them celebrating the guy punching the goalkeeper. Not shopping him to the Police, and so far it appears the Police are still looking for him. If you know who he is Paul, shop him, that simple. Your post implies you do, unless you have more up to date news than the rest of us.

Then there is the groups of Leeds fans that were heard by everyone watching the game singing "Jimmy Savile, he f***s who he wants" and so on. So that is the Leeds supporters celebrating child abuse... Not one fan, a large group of fans. It is disgusting.

Then Warnock and the players go and applaud them.. endorsing what has been done.

That is why the club should be punished, because they are not taking any responsibility for the behavior of their fans. With the rioting and bottle throwing, plus attacking players and celebrating a son of Leeds being a child abuser, I think that something has to be done.

I appreciate that there will be plenty of decent Leeds fans, all clubs will have a few twits in the support, but last night was about more than just one bloke.

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamie1976 - 20-10-2012 15:11

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To be fair, this article says some people have named him, however look at the images, he is smiling away and all the Leeds fans behind the goal are celebrating what he did. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-identify-leeds-fan-who-1388907To be fair, this article says some people have named him, however look at the images, he is smiling away and all the Leeds fans behind the goal are celebrating what he did.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-identify-leeds-fan-who-1388907

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamie1976 - 20-10-2012 15:20

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This is a decent article actually, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220421/Chris-Kirkland-attacked-fan-Sheffield-Wednesday-v-Leeds-derby.htmlThis is a decent article actually,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220421/Chris-Kirkland-attacked-fan-Sheffield-Wednesday-v-Leeds-derby.html

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By riegelderpy - 20-10-2012 16:55

I think the penalty should be a full season with an empty stadium.I think the penalty should be a full season with an empty stadium.

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By paul84 - 20-10-2012 17:31

Hi Jamie, He has been named - Facebook popped up immediately naming this idiot. None of us want to be associated with anyone like that, nor would fans of any other club. There are a couple of morons who support every club. But the majority of fans who work hard all week to go and watch the team they support shouldn't be punished. As a paying supporter i expect the manager and players to come over and thank me for my money and support after every game. I watched the game again when i got home, we were seated more in the corner on the opposite side to where the play built up for the goal and i actually missed the incident and Kirkland was down when i turned around. Looking at pictures it seems the police shouldn't have any trouble finding him locking him up as well as anyone who prevented stewards evicting the offender. But 60 points deduction. Seriously?Hi Jamie,

He has been named - Facebook popped up immediately naming this idiot. None of us want to be associated with anyone like that, nor would fans of any other club. There are a couple of morons who support every club. But the majority of fans who work hard all week to go and watch the team they support shouldn't be punished. As a paying supporter i expect the manager and players to come over and thank me for my money and support after every game.

I watched the game again when i got home, we were seated more in the corner on the opposite side to where the play built up for the goal and i actually missed the incident and Kirkland was down when i turned around. Looking at pictures it seems the police shouldn't have any trouble finding him locking him up as well as anyone who prevented stewards evicting the offender.

But 60 points deduction. Seriously?

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamiescfc2010 - 20-10-2012 17:36

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as bad as that attack by the leeds fan was credit to them knowing where the goal [b]was[/b]!as bad as that attack by the leeds fan was credit to them knowing where the goal was!

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By mosmosmos - 20-10-2012 19:21

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Luton got no punishment when they invaded the pitch when they lost the playoff semi final and threw bottles and coins at away fans and players

jamie1976 wrote:

Luton were fined 30 points for financial issues, again I feel this is worse.

Luton got no punishment when they invaded the pitch when they lost the playoff semi final and threw bottles and coins at away fans and players

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamie1976 - 22-10-2012 00:21

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Then the whole system is wrong, interesting to read Kirkland's thoughts on it all. I like the fact he went and confronted Warnock who told the press he thought Kirkland went down like a "sack of spuds". Quite surprised Warnock has not had worse press for that. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4600587/Kirkland-shocked-by-Leeds-hate-and-anger.html As for no punishment, the last time Liverpool came down to the Chelsea a couple of Chelsea fans got knifed and they were throwing bottles at people passing by minding their own business. All we establish is that the FA is useless.Then the whole system is wrong, interesting to read Kirkland's thoughts on it all. I like the fact he went and confronted Warnock who told the press he thought Kirkland went down like a "sack of spuds". Quite surprised Warnock has not had worse press for that.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4600587/Kirkland-shocked-by-Leeds-hate-and-anger.html

As for no punishment, the last time Liverpool came down to the Chelsea a couple of Chelsea fans got knifed and they were throwing bottles at people passing by minding their own business. All we establish is that the FA is useless.

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By jamie1976 - 22-10-2012 00:23

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60 points, yep, the only way the club will take is seriously is if they get hit on the pitch and in the pocket.60 points, yep, the only way the club will take is seriously is if they get hit on the pitch and in the pocket.

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By mosmosmos - 22-10-2012 01:17

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I think been forced to play 3 home games behind closed doors will do the trick. At the end of the day, the club were pretty powerless to prevent this. A guy with a banning order got hold of a ticket from someone else and got in. Fans might think twice about it next time though if they aren't going to be able to support their team if idiots do what they do it will soon get knocked out of them via self regulation.I think been forced to play 3 home games behind closed doors will do the trick.

At the end of the day, the club were pretty powerless to prevent this. A guy with a banning order got hold of a ticket from someone else and got in.

Fans might think twice about it next time though if they aren't going to be able to support their team if idiots do what they do it will soon get knocked out of them via self regulation.

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By heddo - 22-10-2012 02:51

@jamie1976, you make me totally sick, you should stop this now, you wanna know why, because you are linked to chelsea FC , with all of its past, what is the game jamie, are you trying to twist the knife with Ken Bates, or maybe you havent supported chelsea long enough to know about some of the despicable things that supporters of the club have done in the past, like smashing windows of coaches full of women and children, OK , you now have a millionaire chairman and your up there with it, so that makes everything cushty, no way, ok Leeds have done wrong, but there is no way i am going to read anyone linked to chelsea fc trying to reach for righteaousness, i would rather shoot down chelsea FC any day of the week than Leeds, going back to the scene on friday night, Sheff Wed need to have a long and hard look at themselves, especially after coming into the spotlight on the H bro issue, the stewarding behind the goal was rank, sheff wed have been struggling and have beem playing in half empty stadiums, this may have caught them out, but you know what jamie, they aint got that same millionaire chairman, nobody is going to shop anybody on the night, surveillance has been in since 1985 ish, the individual involved should be hit hard with a 5 year prison term,surveillance should be used to identify and charge all of those seen on the pitch, sheff wed very seriously need to look into their stewrding policies, Leeds Utd as a club are almost blameless, but the genuine fanbase should realise that if the club is going to go forward, then if they do get into the Premiership, they will instantly look pretty stupid..@jamie1976, you make me totally sick, you should stop this now, you wanna know why, because you are linked to chelsea FC , with all of its past, what is the game jamie, are you trying to twist the knife with Ken Bates, or maybe you havent supported chelsea long enough to know about some of the despicable things that supporters of the club have done in the past, like smashing windows of coaches full of women and children, OK , you now have a millionaire chairman and your up there with it, so that makes everything cushty, no way, ok Leeds have done wrong, but there is no way i am going to read anyone linked to chelsea fc trying to reach for righteaousness, i would rather shoot down chelsea FC any day of the week than Leeds, going back to the scene on friday night, Sheff Wed need to have a long and hard look at themselves, especially after coming into the spotlight on the H bro issue, the stewarding behind the goal was rank, sheff wed have been struggling and have beem playing in half empty stadiums, this may have caught them out, but you know what jamie, they aint got that same millionaire chairman, nobody is going to shop anybody on the night, surveillance has been in since 1985 ish, the individual involved should be hit hard with a 5 year prison term,surveillance should be used to identify and charge all of those seen on the pitch, sheff wed very seriously need to look into their stewrding policies, Leeds Utd as a club are almost blameless, but the genuine fanbase should realise that if the club is going to go forward, then if they do get into the Premiership, they will instantly look pretty stupid..

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By safctillidie - 22-10-2012 13:05

60points? are you for real? how can you punish the club for one idiot fan and basically wipe them out of the football league. ive seen some comments in my time but that one is a complete joke. you must have something against leeds if you want this to happen person who commited this crime should be fined, jailed short term (lets be honest it happens week in week out far worse than that in town and people get a fine and night in the cell) and leeds should be punished, not the club but the fans. they should have a reduced allocation of 500max every away game this season, with a threat of further reduction should problems arise again. that way the fans would be quick to hound out these idiots and hand them over to authorities if they see them commiting such crimes, not celebrating it with them......60points? are you for real? how can you punish the club for one idiot fan and basically wipe them out of the football league. ive seen some comments in my time but that one is a complete joke. you must have something against leeds if you want this to happen

person who commited this crime should be fined, jailed short term (lets be honest it happens week in week out far worse than that in town and people get a fine and night in the cell) and leeds should be punished, not the club but the fans. they should have a reduced allocation of 500max every away game this season, with a threat of further reduction should problems arise again. that way the fans would be quick to hound out these idiots and hand them over to authorities if they see them commiting such crimes, not celebrating it with them......

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By safctillidie - 22-10-2012 13:07

people claiming five years prison term etc also make me laugh to be honest, people do that sort of time for attempted murder for christ sake, he pushed him in the face, kirkland was a soft buger n stayed down five minutes, stupidest thing to do in such situation as if fan had then set upon him he wouldve been pummeled lying on the floor....... fine, ban, possibly a few months, or a year suspended sentence imo. lets not get sillypeople claiming five years prison term etc also make me laugh to be honest, people do that sort of time for attempted murder for christ sake, he pushed him in the face, kirkland was a soft buger n stayed down five minutes, stupidest thing to do in such situation as if fan had then set upon him he wouldve been pummeled lying on the floor.......

fine, ban, possibly a few months, or a year suspended sentence imo. lets not get silly

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By heddo - 23-10-2012 02:33

the scumbag got four months jail, ok @safc on appeal, i will give him 3 years, you make me laugh stating that if a crime becomes commonplace, then the punishment meted out should become more trivialised, and we should all have a shrug of the shoulders attitude, i cannot believe how defeated some people are, nor can i believe how soft and liberalised we are becoming, i have never seen anyone do this act of pitch invasion and blatant assault before, he has been allowed to dumb down the sense of occasion a football match has, not only has he done that, he has done it to a mass audience, the punishment he has been given gives off a feel that it didnt really matter, the police dont want to know any more, that is why football matches have second rate security, it points a finger to the way we are heading, if he had done this in the 60 s or 70 s it would have been massive news, now it is shrugged off, when what he did in fact, was monumental and historical, because it now makes a top level football match no different to a kickaround in a local park, and as for attempted murder, well maybe the next one to do it will have that in mind, but its ok, as long as it is happening to someone else..the scumbag got four months jail, ok @safc on appeal, i will give him 3 years, you make me laugh stating that if a crime becomes commonplace, then the punishment meted out should become more trivialised, and we should all have a shrug of the shoulders attitude, i cannot believe how defeated some people are, nor can i believe how soft and liberalised we are becoming, i have never seen anyone do this act of pitch invasion and blatant assault before, he has been allowed to dumb down the sense of occasion a football match has, not only has he done that, he has done it to a mass audience, the punishment he has been given gives off a feel that it didnt really matter, the police dont want to know any more, that is why football matches have second rate security, it points a finger to the way we are heading, if he had done this in the 60 s or 70 s it would have been massive news, now it is shrugged off, when what he did in fact, was monumental and historical, because it now makes a top level football match no different to a kickaround in a local park, and as for attempted murder, well maybe the next one to do it will have that in mind, but its ok, as long as it is happening to someone else..

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By safctillidie - 23-10-2012 14:25

3 years for a push in the face and an over dramatised bit of rolling around by a bloke who is 6ft 5 and an athlete, im glad you dont run our justice system. to give someone 3years for that would be completely ridiculous and im honestly suprised people arent happy with the four months myself considering besides the fact its on camera there was nothing much in it...... outof interest when joey barton kicked and assualted man city players on the pitch did you claim you wanted a three year prison sentence? cos its the exact same thing bar one is a precious player and one is a worthless 'fan'(term used loosely) there have been far worse incidents on the pitch that have been dealt with via a fine and match ban, so how come since the 'fan' doesnt have the financial muscle and a football club behind him he gets 4 months(deserved) yet a player can do the same and get no time, a few quid fine and a few match ban as he has the backing of rich powerful people.................3 years for a push in the face and an over dramatised bit of rolling around by a bloke who is 6ft 5 and an athlete, im glad you dont run our justice system. to give someone 3years for that would be completely ridiculous and im honestly suprised people arent happy with the four months myself considering besides the fact its on camera there was nothing much in it......

outof interest when joey barton kicked and assualted man city players on the pitch did you claim you wanted a three year prison sentence? cos its the exact same thing bar one is a precious player and one is a worthless 'fan'(term used loosely)

there have been far worse incidents on the pitch that have been dealt with via a fine and match ban, so how come since the 'fan' doesnt have the financial muscle and a football club behind him he gets 4 months(deserved) yet a player can do the same and get no time, a few quid fine and a few match ban as he has the backing of rich powerful people.................

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By safctillidie - 23-10-2012 14:32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFLeTm46CqQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGuIJ4Sef0Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec0CT8yzjAo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46CtqZd7qw all above videos did not result in a prison sentence, despite it being on the football pitch, broadcast to a wide audience. why not? if your justice system youd like to implement got in would those players deserve 3 years? im not backing up the idiot for one second, just think it is disgusting how players can do what they like yet anyone else does such and they are scum............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFLeTm46CqQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGuIJ4Sef0Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec0CT8yzjAo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46CtqZd7qw

all above videos did not result in a prison sentence, despite it being on the football pitch, broadcast to a wide audience. why not? if your justice system youd like to implement got in would those players deserve 3 years?

im not backing up the idiot for one second, just think it is disgusting how players can do what they like yet anyone else does such and they are scum............

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By heddo - 24-10-2012 05:31

i agree with you, that most of the thugs are on the pitch these days, and they are not being dealt with properly, i would love to see the police intervene, if nothing else other than for the sake of preventing a riot off the pitch, he also got a five year banning order, considering he already disregards his current banning order,take him off the streets for longer, so that he has a banning order and sentence running concurrently, it is a classic case of zero common sense in the courtrooms, and the culprit quickly released to continue re-offending. it is the same on the pitch, minimal punishment, so the offenders just continue, apart from Ched Evans of course..i agree with you, that most of the thugs are on the pitch these days, and they are not being dealt with properly, i would love to see the police intervene, if nothing else other than for the sake of preventing a riot off the pitch, he also got a five year banning order, considering he already disregards his current banning order,take him off the streets for longer, so that he has a banning order and sentence running concurrently, it is a classic case of zero common sense in the courtrooms, and the culprit quickly released to continue re-offending. it is the same on the pitch, minimal punishment, so the offenders just continue, apart from Ched Evans of course..

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By heddo - 24-10-2012 05:39

i also think its totally a different thing, he ran on the pitch, which was an offence,liable to get him banned,he assaulted an innocent bystander, and although it was a push, it was in the lower neck area, and he was already banned,which is a bit different to two players falling out with each other..i also think its totally a different thing, he ran on the pitch, which was an offence,liable to get him banned,he assaulted an innocent bystander, and although it was a push, it was in the lower neck area, and he was already banned,which is a bit different to two players falling out with each other..

Re: Leeds - what penalty should they receive?

By safctillidie - 25-10-2012 03:15

yeah but the brutality in what the players do far exceeds the lad in question. i think we agree on the main point being made, but disagree on what action should be taken tbh. i just think going crazy and handing out years of prison for a push in the neck is insaneyeah but the brutality in what the players do far exceeds the lad in question. i think we agree on the main point being made, but disagree on what action should be taken tbh. i just think going crazy and handing out years of prison for a push in the neck is insane

 

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