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Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 19-12-2011 05:08

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I don't know if many of you had the chance to watch the Barcelona-Santos game for the Football Clubs WC early today. Man what a concert of football Barça gave, what a team! ...One half was more than enough ...74% ball possession. Santos (the other team that happened to be there) just simply didn't exist ....Neymar? did he play? I have never ...ever in my life and I'm not young...has ever seen a team like Barcelona , the way they play is just sublime. Remember just last week they destroyed probably the second best team in the world Real Madrid by a clear 3-1 Today was a concert 4-0 the second half shouldn't have been played.... The three best players today : Xavi , Dani Alves and Messsssssi Xavi played unbelievable ...Alves the in theory right defender who was playing as right half back but was nevertheless the most dangerous attacker for Barcelona ....And Messi oh Messi....what can be said....too awesome scores... They are a tactically perfect team, technically each of their players are amazing, simply the best ...and they play for the 'team' not for iindividualities. They play give and go and keep away in just 2 ft sq. they drive crazy any opponent. More importantly : 9 of the 11 starters today were from the Masia i.e. they were generated and trained at Barcelona since they were little kids.... Valdes, Puyol (who played awesome as well), Pique, Bousquet, Iniesta, Xavi, Thiago, Messi and Cesc Fabregas all were born in Barcelona... never seen... and there are more awesome players in the pipeline... For those that have not seen the match , just try to lose 45 min of your live and look just at the first half is a lesson of real football , something that I believe will be difficult to watch again in our lifetime. well I'm done :)I don't know if many of you had the chance to watch the Barcelona-Santos game for the Football Clubs WC early today.

Man what a concert of football Barça gave, what a team! ...One half was more than enough ...74% ball possession. Santos (the other team that happened to be there) just simply didn't exist ....Neymar? did he play?

I have never ...ever in my life and I'm not young...has ever seen a team like Barcelona , the way they play is just sublime. Remember just last week they destroyed probably the second best team in the world Real Madrid by a clear 3-1

Today was a concert 4-0 the second half shouldn't have been played....
The three best players today : Xavi , Dani Alves and Messsssssi
Xavi played unbelievable ...Alves the in theory right defender who was playing as right half back but was nevertheless the most dangerous attacker for Barcelona ....And Messi oh Messi....what can be said....too awesome scores...

They are a tactically perfect team, technically each of their players are amazing, simply the best ...and they play for the 'team' not for iindividualities. They play give and go and keep away in just 2 ft sq. they drive crazy any opponent.

More importantly : 9 of the 11 starters today were from the Masia i.e. they were generated and trained at Barcelona since they were little kids.... Valdes, Puyol (who played awesome as well), Pique, Bousquet, Iniesta, Xavi, Thiago, Messi and Cesc Fabregas all were born in Barcelona... never seen... and there are more awesome players in the pipeline...

For those that have not seen the match , just try to lose 45 min of your live and look just at the first half is a lesson of real football , something that I believe will be difficult to watch again in our lifetime.

well I'm done :)

 

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Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By hewei1819 - 19-12-2011 05:38

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barca’s game is so boring 。 only one team play the gamebarca’s game is so boring 。 only one team play the game

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By hewei1819 - 19-12-2011 05:38

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the other watchthe other watch

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 19-12-2011 06:12

messi wasn't born in barcelona, sure, they are a good team, they dive too much, and their reign is basically over, they're not winning champions league this year, spain wont win euro, spain wont win the world cup either, they'll get a trophy here and there, but not muchmessi wasn't born in barcelona, sure, they are a good team, they dive too much, and their reign is basically over, they're not winning champions league this year, spain wont win euro, spain wont win the world cup either, they'll get a trophy here and there, but not much

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 19-12-2011 08:24

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Messi was born in Argentina but as a player he transferred to Barca when he was 11 years old ...So he basically was born in Barcelona's training, even though of course he was naturally before 11 a great project of player . He used to play in the youth division's of Newells Old Boys from Rosario Argentina..but they didn't form him , he was just a natural.. He grew as a star undoubtedly in Barcelona... To say that watching Barcelona is boring is actually in my view not to appreciate what real Football is.... They just are so superior to other teams that it appears that is boring simply because nobody can reach their level... but is no boring is just unbelievable... Who dives? rockstarroberts ? did you watch the game? what are you exactly talking about? whose reign is over? Barcelona's ? really ? wow didn't know that....a trophy here and there Barcelona? you mean perhaps a trophy everywhere...Messi was born in Argentina but as a player he transferred to Barca when he was 11 years old ...So he basically was born in Barcelona's training, even though of course he was naturally before 11 a great project of player . He used to play in the youth division's of Newells Old Boys from Rosario Argentina..but they didn't form him , he was just a natural.. He grew as a star undoubtedly in Barcelona...

To say that watching Barcelona is boring is actually in my view not to appreciate what real Football is.... They just are so superior to other teams that it appears that is boring simply because nobody can reach their level... but is no boring is just unbelievable...
Who dives? rockstarroberts ? did you watch the game? what are you exactly talking about? whose reign is over? Barcelona's ? really ? wow didn't know that....a trophy here and there Barcelona? you mean perhaps a trophy everywhere...

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 19-12-2011 09:05

you are a funny guy river, if you really watch any of barcelona's games, they are one of the most diving teams on the planet, and yes, their reign is over, you'll see, every team owns a few years, maybe even a decade and barcelona is doing that now, but their reign is done, trophy here and there is accurate,you are a funny guy river, if you really watch any of barcelona's games, they are one of the most diving teams on the planet, and yes, their reign is over, you'll see, every team owns a few years, maybe even a decade and barcelona is doing that now, but their reign is done, trophy here and there is accurate,

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By tpc1011 - 19-12-2011 11:15

Barca is the best team I've seen. Sure, they dive a lot, but I blame the refs for allowing it to happen in the first place. Why not take a dive if it might help your team win? If I were ever rooting for team playing against Barcelona, I think I would pull my hair out in frustration.Barca is the best team I've seen. Sure, they dive a lot, but I blame the refs for allowing it to happen in the first place. Why not take a dive if it might help your team win?

If I were ever rooting for team playing against Barcelona, I think I would pull my hair out in frustration.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By xellu - 19-12-2011 20:35

Yep, the fairest team in the world ! Some real football out there ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw5A6T0opD8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe_lwegpHk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbBMiBI9ymIYep, the fairest team in the world ! Some real football out there !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw5A6T0opD8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe_lwegpHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbBMiBI9ymI

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 19-12-2011 22:10

xellu is right with those links, barcelona is ruining the game with their diving, it's not just the refs fault, how you can be pro diving, it's spoiling the game, it's pathetic and what they did to schewinstiger or however you spell it was poor sportsmanship, they're arrogant pricks who will be put in their placexellu is right with those links, barcelona is ruining the game with their diving, it's not just the refs fault, how you can be pro diving, it's spoiling the game, it's pathetic and what they did to schewinstiger or however you spell it was poor sportsmanship, they're arrogant pricks who will be put in their place

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 19-12-2011 23:01

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Ruining the game? did you ever see Messi dive? ... I could produce links for almost any player any team in the world with outrageous dives... In any case I'm not going to convince you . We have the right to disagree. Barcelona no doubt the most beautiful football I have ever watched in my life and probably than any of us is going to watch in our lifetime. Of course one has to understand football to appreciate it , or have played the game. But again is a matter of tasteRuining the game?

did you ever see Messi dive? ...

I could produce links for almost any player any team in the world with outrageous dives...

In any case I'm not going to convince you . We have the right to disagree.

Barcelona no doubt the most beautiful football I have ever watched in my life and probably than any of us is going to watch in our lifetime. Of course one has to understand football to appreciate it , or have played the game.

But again is a matter of taste

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 19-12-2011 23:22

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Since probably xeliu likes Real Madrid and Cristiano Ronaldo here some examples There she goes again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBXO-loQ1Sg or violence ruins the game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBUw_nKDN8I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixxt3nVORVs you want more links? there are more in all flavors and colors...Since probably xeliu likes Real Madrid and Cristiano Ronaldo

here some examples

There she goes again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBXO-loQ1Sg

or violence ruins the game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBUw_nKDN8I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixxt3nVORVs

you want more links? there are more in all flavors and colors...

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 19-12-2011 23:23

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more ? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ronaldo+dives+top+10&oq=ronaldo+dive&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=28849l32609l0l35335l12l10l0l1l1l0l186l1117l3.6l9l0more ?
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ronaldo+dives+top+10&oq=ronaldo+dive&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=28849l32609l0l35335l12l10l0l1l1l0l186l1117l3.6l9l0

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 20-12-2011 00:27

maybe violence will teach barcelona to stop diving so much, a talented team like barca doesnt need to dive, they screwed chelsea over in 2008, but they wont win it this year, someone will stop them, messi rarely dives, but he has done it beforemaybe violence will teach barcelona to stop diving so much, a talented team like barca doesnt need to dive, they screwed chelsea over in 2008, but they wont win it this year, someone will stop them, messi rarely dives, but he has done it before

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 20-12-2011 02:30

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The two top teams in the Champions by far are Real Madrid and Barcelona...so if they are not both in the final is because they cross paths before. and if Barcelona is in the final for sure they'll win again and I extremely disagree on the violence part..The two top teams in the Champions by far are Real Madrid and Barcelona...so if they are not both in the final is because they cross paths before. and if Barcelona is in the final for sure they'll win again

and I extremely disagree on the violence part..

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 20-12-2011 04:18

you can disagree all you want, but there are teams who can beat barcelona and madrid, they wont repeatyou can disagree all you want, but there are teams who can beat barcelona and madrid, they wont repeat

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By xellu - 20-12-2011 15:31

Real Madrid and Ronaldo ? Please, the club is certainly not one of my favourite, while Ronaldo...well what can I say, he is good, but because of his arrogance and wanna-be-diva attitude, I detest him.Real Madrid and Ronaldo ? Please, the club is certainly not one of my favourite, while Ronaldo...well what can I say, he is good, but because of his arrogance and wanna-be-diva attitude, I detest him.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 20-12-2011 16:47

you just described some players on barcelona xelluyou just described some players on barcelona xellu

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By xellu - 20-12-2011 18:27

Yes, seems like I did. Every team cheats to try and win, no point denying it, but Barca goes too far.Yes, seems like I did.

Every team cheats to try and win, no point denying it, but Barca goes too far.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By overthetop3 - 21-12-2011 03:12

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This is why the Engli- sees player red carded for getting the ball... F### European football...This is why the Engli- sees player red carded for getting the ball...

F### European football...

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 21-12-2011 05:50

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So...shall we play Maltese style football? (I acknowledge I'm a neophyte in such sport )... or perhaps Australian Rules Football?... I love Rugby but ain't football... yeah there if you dive you are toast... Please enlighten me.So...shall we play Maltese style football? (I acknowledge I'm a neophyte in such sport )...
or perhaps Australian Rules Football?...

I love Rugby but ain't football... yeah there if you dive you are toast...

Please enlighten me.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 21-12-2011 05:56

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Oh ...Barcelona what a team!! (of 'Real football')( that thing for some obscure reason called soccer in USA.).., ..A display of beauty never seen before never to be seen again in our lifetime.... Of course it is not just my opinion but that of likely > 70% football fans, coaches, professional football players, NT captains and coaches in the world, the UEFA, FIFA etc. etc. etc. you know those pesky guys that know something about the sport.Oh ...Barcelona what a team!! (of 'Real football')( that thing for some obscure reason called soccer in USA.)..,

..A display of beauty never seen before never to be seen again in our lifetime....

Of course it is not just my opinion but that of likely > 70% football fans, coaches, professional football players, NT captains and coaches in the world, the UEFA, FIFA etc. etc. etc. you know those pesky guys that know something about the sport.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 21-12-2011 08:57

yeah, cause we've never seen a team like barcelona before and we'll never see a team like them again... (sarcasm)yeah, cause we've never seen a team like barcelona before and we'll never see a team like them again... (sarcasm)

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By andres_iniesta - 21-12-2011 13:32

Haters gona hate... Seems like some people have no arguments and can only say that Barça's players dive. I know it's hard not being Barcelona's supporter nowadays cause we win everything, we play the most amazing football of the history and we are admired all around the world but man... try to live with it and enjoy it!Haters gona hate...

Seems like some people have no arguments and can only say that Barça's players dive. I know it's hard not being Barcelona's supporter nowadays cause we win everything, we play the most amazing football of the history and we are admired all around the world but man... try to live with it and enjoy it!

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By xellu - 21-12-2011 14:01

@ river - Maltese style football ? Why not ? Certainly an improvement in the way football is played. 'A display of beauty never seen before never to be seen again in our lifetime' - Thankfully never seen before, and hopefully will never be seen again. 'you know those pesky guys that know something about the sport.' - Yep, that's why they are hated by the majority of football fans around the world. And that's why Blatter is being pressured all the time to resign, you know, the guy who's head of FIFA. @ andres - Mate, I don't mind Barca winning every Trophy in the world, as long as they do so fairly. But I can't understand how the whole world has to enjoy football matches when Barca play dirty. The team I support played Barca a couple of times in the last 5 years. I remember 2 of those matches very well. The first game ended in a win for Barca. There was no cheating, and I was happy to say that it was a fair game, even though we lost. We just didn't deserve to win and that's that. The second match, a few months later, we lost again. But this time, we played the match with 10 men, because one guy was red carded for an offence which didn't take place. It was just that 1 of the spanish players faked it, and later on, on camera, was seen to be faking. How could someone like me enjoy football, when my team lost because of Barca cheating. @ all the Barca fans - Imagine being in the same situation, where you lose and as a consequance do not qualify to the next round of a big tournament, only because a player in your opponents team cheated. How would you feel ?@ river - Maltese style football ? Why not ? Certainly an improvement in the way football is played.

'A display of beauty never seen before never to be seen again in our lifetime' - Thankfully never seen before, and hopefully will never be seen again.

'you know those pesky guys that know something about the sport.' - Yep, that's why they are hated by the majority of football fans around the world. And that's why Blatter is being pressured all the time to resign, you know, the guy who's head of FIFA.

@ andres - Mate, I don't mind Barca winning every Trophy in the world, as long as they do so fairly.

But I can't understand how the whole world has to enjoy football matches when Barca play dirty. The team I support played Barca a couple of times in the last 5 years. I remember 2 of those matches very well. The first game ended in a win for Barca. There was no cheating, and I was happy to say that it was a fair game, even though we lost. We just didn't deserve to win and that's that. The second match, a few months later, we lost again. But this time, we played the match with 10 men, because one guy was red carded for an offence which didn't take place. It was just that 1 of the spanish players faked it, and later on, on camera, was seen to be faking. How could someone like me enjoy football, when my team lost because of Barca cheating.

@ all the Barca fans - Imagine being in the same situation, where you lose and as a consequance do not qualify to the next round of a big tournament, only because a player in your opponents team cheated. How would you feel ?

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By kabaddi21 - 21-12-2011 16:55

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xellu you act like Barca are full of cheaters. Every team has their fair share of cheaters. Sometimes you get lucky with certain decisions, sometimes you don't. Luck never gives, it only borrows. Many decisions have gone against Barca as well but thank God the manager is way too classy to moan about it in the media.xellu you act like Barca are full of cheaters. Every team has their fair share of cheaters. Sometimes you get lucky with certain decisions, sometimes you don't. Luck never gives, it only borrows. Many decisions have gone against Barca as well but thank God the manager is way too classy to moan about it in the media.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 21-12-2011 17:44

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Oh...xeliu...man you are way too young if you age is 16 as display in your profile Certainly at that age you haven't seen much yet...So thankfully you have a lot of life ahead of you and chances of seen beautiful football again. About being disappointed because your team got a red card due to a bad call ...well that happens ...as a matter of fact happens in 'every sport' where human decision plays a role. Don't get that upset...I'm also a football fan since I was a little kid 6 yrs old and used to go to the stadium in Buenos Aires to watch my River Plate so I saw a lot of football there here and everywhere and yes saw lots of bad calls that hurt my favorite team. Get use to that you will see it way after this Barca is gone as well... Just enjoy really enjoy appreciate the beauty of the game , like I appreciated Netherlands 74 (even if it wasn't my team)...or many great teams before and after that (like Santos with Pele , Garrincha, etc. ) I reckon I was too young for that but got to see once Pele live.....and many times Maradona live...even in Boca Stadium beating my River... Now I really enjoy watching Barcelona because I love their football...of course sometimes one player exaggerates here and there...yeah sometimes Alves or Bousquet go overboard on that... But I could find a couple of players that exagerate a call in almost any team...e.g. Di Maria, Ronaldo, en Real Madrid...is part of the game...if caught faking they will be sanctioned... Believe me leave your hatred aside and just look a Barcelona game (I watch every single one) with objective eyes. ..90% of the time btw I see no exaggeration or dives in regular league games . They just won the fair play award in the club WC. But forget all that focus on how these guys can play with a ball 'keep-away' against a top team from Brazil 'Santos' top team from America....or how they can play 'keep-away' against Real Madrid ...watch it in slow motion and appreciate the constant move of the pieces in the field the triangles, squares and multiple options every time a player with the ball has to pass it...and how they can play with almost any tactic known, 3 or 4 defenders, no center forward , 3-5 attackers, they tailored their game to the opponent. Guardiola is a great coach.Oh...xeliu...man you are way too young if you age is 16 as display in your profile

Certainly at that age you haven't seen much yet...So thankfully you have a lot of life ahead of you and chances of seen beautiful football again.

About being disappointed because your team got a red card due to a bad call ...well that happens ...as a matter of fact happens in 'every sport' where human decision plays a role. Don't get that upset...I'm also a football fan since I was a little kid 6 yrs old and used to go to the stadium in Buenos Aires to watch my River Plate so I saw a lot of football there here and everywhere and yes saw lots of bad calls that hurt my favorite team. Get use to that you will see it way after this Barca is gone as well...
Just enjoy really enjoy appreciate the beauty of the game , like I appreciated Netherlands 74 (even if it wasn't my team)...or many great teams before and after that (like Santos with Pele , Garrincha, etc. ) I reckon I was too young for that but got to see once Pele live.....and many times Maradona live...even in Boca Stadium beating my River...
Now I really enjoy watching Barcelona because I love their football...of course sometimes one player exaggerates here and there...yeah sometimes Alves or Bousquet go overboard on that... But I could find a couple of players that exagerate a call in almost any team...e.g. Di Maria, Ronaldo, en Real Madrid...is part of the game...if caught faking they will be sanctioned...

Believe me leave your hatred aside and just look a Barcelona game (I watch every single one) with objective eyes. ..90% of the time btw I see no exaggeration or dives in regular league games . They just won the fair play award in the club WC.
But forget all that focus on how these guys can play with a ball 'keep-away' against a top team from Brazil 'Santos' top team from America....or how they can play 'keep-away' against Real Madrid ...watch it in slow motion and appreciate the constant move of the pieces in the field the triangles, squares and multiple options every time a player with the ball has to pass it...and how they can play with almost any tactic known, 3 or 4 defenders, no center forward , 3-5 attackers, they tailored their game to the opponent. Guardiola is a great coach.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 22-12-2011 01:50

clearly river is biased, barcelona dives a lot every game, if you honestly cant recognize that they're one of the most diving teams then there's no point arguing with youclearly river is biased, barcelona dives a lot every game, if you honestly cant recognize that they're one of the most diving teams then there's no point arguing with you

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By overthetop3 - 22-12-2011 03:49

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They could solve this problem easily by allowing the video referee to overturn important decisions, if he sees sufficent evidence the foul did not occur...They could solve this problem easily by allowing the video referee to overturn important decisions, if he sees sufficent evidence the foul did not occur...

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 22-12-2011 05:19

[MZUSA]

well robberts don't argue .. as simple as that .. I open this thread to celebrate the Barca team if you don't like their style fine with me... They are the best team in the world at the moment with dives or w/out dives ...again not my opinion ...the opinion of most people that understand the game...well robberts don't argue .. as simple as that .. I open this thread to celebrate the Barca team if you don't like their style fine with me...

They are the best team in the world at the moment with dives or w/out dives ...again not my opinion ...the opinion of most people that understand the game...

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By kabaddi21 - 23-12-2011 15:11

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rockstarroberts @ be fair. If you think they are one of the most diving teams perhaps you should also recognize that they are one of the most fouled teams? You can't have your cake and eat it too.rockstarroberts @ be fair. If you think they are one of the most diving teams perhaps you should also recognize that they are one of the most fouled teams? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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By bema - 25-12-2011 03:20

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The problem is that rockstarroberts think of football like the british do, you know a group of underclass trash who practise kick & run. They get the hairdryer from their manager and spend all their money on cheap women, beer and gambling.. A good game in this style is running around kicking on everything in sight, and hitting your opponents is considered manly While they practice aesthetic football in spain. Their style of play is far superior.... They tend to fall more often than the british brute when the referee fails to protect this style of play from those who really should be playing rugby...The problem is that rockstarroberts think of football like the british do, you know a group of underclass trash who practise kick & run.
They get the hairdryer from their manager and spend all their money on cheap women, beer and gambling..
A good game in this style is running around kicking on everything in sight, and hitting your opponents is considered manly

While they practice aesthetic football in spain.
Their style of play is far superior....
They tend to fall more often than the british brute when the referee fails to protect this style of play from those who really should be playing rugby...

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 25-12-2011 07:09

bema, nothing you just said made sense, move along...bema, nothing you just said made sense, move along...

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By bema - 25-12-2011 20:30

[MZS]

Well it does not make sense to you, but FCB has won the CL 06/09/11 they are by far the best team in the world. Messi is regardless you like it or not probably the best player ever to have set foot on a football field. Xavi and Iniesta is one of the top 10-20 players of all time. Spain is reigning european champions, world champions, under 21 world champions. It may not make sense to you, but its the truth.Well it does not make sense to you, but FCB has won the CL 06/09/11 they are by far the best team in the world.

Messi is regardless you like it or not probably the best player ever to have set foot on a football field.

Xavi and Iniesta is one of the top 10-20 players of all time.

Spain is reigning european champions, world champions, under 21 world champions.

It may not make sense to you, but its the truth.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 25-12-2011 21:33

their reign is overtheir reign is over

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By fanaguila - 26-12-2011 00:14

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@rockstarroberts: Clearly you don't know anything about Fooball. Clearly you DON'T LIKE FOOTBALL. Barcelona plays the most beautiful football I have ever seen. They dive? You mean their players get kicked so they go to the ground, then yes, they dive lol. There is no way you can hate Barcelona's football. I understand if you are a Real Madrid fan, seeing thee rival win everything, I get it you are tired of it. [image url=http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac355/ccc_vader/iconos/icon_crying.gif] [image url=http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac355/ccc_vader/iconos/eeh.gif]@rockstarroberts: Clearly you don't know anything about Fooball. Clearly you DON'T LIKE FOOTBALL. Barcelona plays the most beautiful football I have ever seen. They dive? You mean their players get kicked so they go to the ground, then yes, they dive lol. There is no way you can hate Barcelona's football. I understand if you are a Real Madrid fan, seeing thee rival win everything, I get it you are tired of it.

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By bema - 26-12-2011 00:14

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"OK" Wich team is gonna reign from now on then? LA Galaxy? ;) Santos? ;) MUTD?! ;)"OK"

Wich team is gonna reign from now on then?

LA Galaxy? ;)
Santos? ;)
MUTD?! ;)

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By sefergfb - 26-12-2011 00:26

I am supporter of Real Madrid, but Barca is a great team. Barca play team football.I am supporter of Real Madrid, but Barca is a great team. Barca play team football.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 26-12-2011 17:28

fana i can tell you dont actually watch barca's games, look at any of the clips xellu posted, they dive a lot,, more than most teams in the worldfana i can tell you dont actually watch barca's games, look at any of the clips xellu posted, they dive a lot,, more than most teams in the world

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By kabaddi21 - 26-12-2011 21:24

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Haters gonna hate ;-)Haters gonna hate ;-)

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By bema - 26-12-2011 23:02

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I watch FCBs games, watched every game this season and i can honestly say that Messi stands up in 2/3 situations where he by the rulebook should be rewarded with a free kick. He has dived one time this season, tried to get a penalty and was punished for it with a yellow card...otherwise i think his one of the most honest players out there. Maybe you've seen to many games between RM-FCB, RM plays very aggressive against FCB....and its a very intense meeting it tends to be a bit akward at times. But your overall analysis points to that you dont really know what youre talking about...just following back talks mainly from the british islands.I watch FCBs games, watched every game this season and i can honestly say that Messi stands up in 2/3 situations where he by the rulebook should be rewarded with a free kick.

He has dived one time this season, tried to get a penalty and was punished for it with a yellow card...otherwise i think his one of the most honest players out there.

Maybe you've seen to many games between RM-FCB, RM plays very aggressive against FCB....and its a very intense meeting it tends to be a bit akward at times.

But your overall analysis points to that you dont really know what youre talking about...just following back talks mainly from the british islands.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 26-12-2011 23:11

lol, they only dive when they play madrid, huh? what a joke, it doesnt matter, espana's reign is over, barca's reign is over, spain wont win euro 2012 and barca wont win the champions leaguelol, they only dive when they play madrid, huh? what a joke, it doesnt matter, espana's reign is over, barca's reign is over, spain wont win euro 2012 and barca wont win the champions league

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By kingjaime - 26-12-2011 23:17

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Is true kabaddi. Barcelona are almost everything that could possibly be right about a football club. Yes the capacity for diving sometimes is a bit of an irritation, I particularly think of Sergio Busquets, and their finances are something of a concern. But. They play what I would say is unquestionably the most beautiful football since the peak of the Brazilian national team. They play that style and win, on the biggest stage. It's ignorant to think this is not valued in England, where Kevin Keegan's Newcastle in the mid-90s were the "second favourite" (to whomever they actually supported) of pretty much everyone I knew and where Tottenham and Arsenal get a lot of plaudits. But the trophy count amongst those teams, certainly recently, is not high. Likewise, for all the hype and cost of Madrid assembling their Galacticos, and attempting to play a style suited to the talent, their success in terms of trophies was ultimately negligible. To play high grade flowing, attacking football and consistently win is a serious trick. Then we could look at their players in context of the current footballing world. They have Dani Alves, whom I would say is the very best right-sided attacking fullback or wingback around and arguably second only to Cafu in the whole modern era (I'd personally place Alves ahead of Cafu and Maicon). Carles Puyol, a man who fights as hard for his team as anyone I've ever seen, fantastic determination. Gerard Pique, perhaps the most elegant and composed central defender around and surely one of the worst transfer mistakes (sale) of Ferguson's career. Xavi and Iniesta, perhaps the two greatest midfielders around right now, for my money certainly amongst the top 10 of modern times. David Villa, perhaps not yet shown his very best form for Barca, but regardless one of the greatest strikers of the modern era. And of course Leo Messi. Nothing more needs be said about Messi. To anyone, this should be enough. But what I love is the extra elements... A lot of credit to Frank Rijkaard of course, but it's fantastic that it's a former player, and such an iconic one, who is now manager and, if anything, has taken them on to an even higher level. It's fantastic that the personality of the club is so strong, as Catalan and indeed as Spanish. I somewhat despaired of their transformation into a Dutch colony under Van Gaal so it's fantastic to see them having recovered so strongly, with so many ex-players involved behind the scenes and coaching. And of course, it's fantastic to me that they are so consistently producing new talent from their awe-inspiring youth system. Valdes, Pique, Puyol, Fabregas, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Busquets, Rodriguez, Alcantara. No other top club in Europe has a hit-rate anywhere near that for youths to established first team and success. Not since the days of mid-90s Ajax would I say there's any real comparison. I despise diving but I don't consider it a significant offence with Barca any more than with a number of other teams and certainly not to any sort of point where I'd dismiss all the overwhelming positives in and around the team.Is true kabaddi.

Barcelona are almost everything that could possibly be right about a football club. Yes the capacity for diving sometimes is a bit of an irritation, I particularly think of Sergio Busquets, and their finances are something of a concern. But. They play what I would say is unquestionably the most beautiful football since the peak of the Brazilian national team. They play that style and win, on the biggest stage. It's ignorant to think this is not valued in England, where Kevin Keegan's Newcastle in the mid-90s were the "second favourite" (to whomever they actually supported) of pretty much everyone I knew and where Tottenham and Arsenal get a lot of plaudits. But the trophy count amongst those teams, certainly recently, is not high. Likewise, for all the hype and cost of Madrid assembling their Galacticos, and attempting to play a style suited to the talent, their success in terms of trophies was ultimately negligible. To play high grade flowing, attacking football and consistently win is a serious trick.

Then we could look at their players in context of the current footballing world. They have Dani Alves, whom I would say is the very best right-sided attacking fullback or wingback around and arguably second only to Cafu in the whole modern era (I'd personally place Alves ahead of Cafu and Maicon). Carles Puyol, a man who fights as hard for his team as anyone I've ever seen, fantastic determination. Gerard Pique, perhaps the most elegant and composed central defender around and surely one of the worst transfer mistakes (sale) of Ferguson's career. Xavi and Iniesta, perhaps the two greatest midfielders around right now, for my money certainly amongst the top 10 of modern times. David Villa, perhaps not yet shown his very best form for Barca, but regardless one of the greatest strikers of the modern era. And of course Leo Messi. Nothing more needs be said about Messi.

To anyone, this should be enough. But what I love is the extra elements... A lot of credit to Frank Rijkaard of course, but it's fantastic that it's a former player, and such an iconic one, who is now manager and, if anything, has taken them on to an even higher level. It's fantastic that the personality of the club is so strong, as Catalan and indeed as Spanish. I somewhat despaired of their transformation into a Dutch colony under Van Gaal so it's fantastic to see them having recovered so strongly, with so many ex-players involved behind the scenes and coaching. And of course, it's fantastic to me that they are so consistently producing new talent from their awe-inspiring youth system. Valdes, Pique, Puyol, Fabregas, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Busquets, Rodriguez, Alcantara. No other top club in Europe has a hit-rate anywhere near that for youths to established first team and success. Not since the days of mid-90s Ajax would I say there's any real comparison.

I despise diving but I don't consider it a significant offence with Barca any more than with a number of other teams and certainly not to any sort of point where I'd dismiss all the overwhelming positives in and around the team.

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By bema - 27-12-2011 02:05

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@rockstarroberts it appears that you have some sort of aggression towards FCB - or spain overall. It not a very bold statement of you that FCB wont win CL and Spain wont win WC/EC. It is historically extremely hard to defend such titles....i dont think that CL have been won 2 times in a row for example. But you seem to me that you underestimates the accomplishment of the nation and this team since 2006 to date. Its like you got a personal grudge against all this and thats makes you a very sad person. @kingjaime Yes, but keep in mind that FCB is still to date very much influenced by the dutch - Cruyff has a thing or two in the making of the FCB we see today, and his football coach and FCBs coach Rinos Michels invented their style of play - Total Football - Tiki-Taki.@rockstarroberts it appears that you have some sort of aggression towards FCB - or spain overall.

It not a very bold statement of you that FCB wont win CL and Spain wont win WC/EC.

It is historically extremely hard to defend such titles....i dont think that CL have been won 2 times in a row for example.

But you seem to me that you underestimates the accomplishment of the nation and this team since 2006 to date. Its like you got a personal grudge against all this and thats makes you a very sad person.

@kingjaime

Yes, but keep in mind that FCB is still to date very much influenced by the dutch - Cruyff has a thing or two in the making of the FCB we see today, and his football coach and FCBs coach Rinos Michels invented their style of play - Total Football - Tiki-Taki.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By kingjaime - 27-12-2011 05:04

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No doubt. I already mentioned Rijkaard and of course Cruyff goes without saying for any of us who know Barca's history. Anything related to the academy ultimately owes at least a measure of debt to him. And indeed he utilized graduates well himself to supplement the stars of his management era (Romario, Laudrup, Koeman, Stoichkov, Hagi, etc), with Sergi, Ferrer, Amor and Guardiola amongst others. Have to say I disagree regarding any claim might be made of the Dutch having "invented their style of play". While the infrastructure of the youth academy has direct heritage, the style of play has been more an influence, rather than a direct replica. I don't regard the philosophy of Total Football as identical/interchangeable with that of Tiki-Taka. It's possible to see influence of Total Football in Tiki-Taka, but likewise there are elements of Creole and Ginga at times. The teams of both Cruyff and Rijkaard operated with players in fairly set positions. Van Gaal only operated it as far as was inevitable through him signing pretty much every significant player from his Ajax side of the mid-90s (the last side to employ Total Football to significant success). I see that Rijkaard, as a disciple of Cruyff (club level) and Michels (national team), with some time also under Van Gaal, will have taken on an influence though, and likewise Guardiola with time under both Cruyff and Van Gaal. And it's really all a bit of an aside. My point was the personnel under Van Gaal rather than the style of play. It's a pet concern of mine, or let's say something I regard favourably, to see a team from a particular country having a team composed of a decent number of players native to that country. Arsenal play fine football, but I dislike them because for large parts of Wenger's reign if you saw a list of his players' nationalities, you'd have a hard time guessing what country the team was from. Likewise Vialli's Chelsea. Van Gaal's Barca would've certainly been mistaken for Dutch, given the significant majority of Dutch players in their first team under his management. I don't think going as far as say Athletic Bilbao is necessarily good, but I very much like to see Barca nowadays with a good number of Spanish and indeed Catalan players again.No doubt. I already mentioned Rijkaard and of course Cruyff goes without saying for any of us who know Barca's history. Anything related to the academy ultimately owes at least a measure of debt to him. And indeed he utilized graduates well himself to supplement the stars of his management era (Romario, Laudrup, Koeman, Stoichkov, Hagi, etc), with Sergi, Ferrer, Amor and Guardiola amongst others.

Have to say I disagree regarding any claim might be made of the Dutch having "invented their style of play". While the infrastructure of the youth academy has direct heritage, the style of play has been more an influence, rather than a direct replica. I don't regard the philosophy of Total Football as identical/interchangeable with that of Tiki-Taka. It's possible to see influence of Total Football in Tiki-Taka, but likewise there are elements of Creole and Ginga at times. The teams of both Cruyff and Rijkaard operated with players in fairly set positions. Van Gaal only operated it as far as was inevitable through him signing pretty much every significant player from his Ajax side of the mid-90s (the last side to employ Total Football to significant success). I see that Rijkaard, as a disciple of Cruyff (club level) and Michels (national team), with some time also under Van Gaal, will have taken on an influence though, and likewise Guardiola with time under both Cruyff and Van Gaal.

And it's really all a bit of an aside. My point was the personnel under Van Gaal rather than the style of play. It's a pet concern of mine, or let's say something I regard favourably, to see a team from a particular country having a team composed of a decent number of players native to that country. Arsenal play fine football, but I dislike them because for large parts of Wenger's reign if you saw a list of his players' nationalities, you'd have a hard time guessing what country the team was from. Likewise Vialli's Chelsea. Van Gaal's Barca would've certainly been mistaken for Dutch, given the significant majority of Dutch players in their first team under his management. I don't think going as far as say Athletic Bilbao is necessarily good, but I very much like to see Barca nowadays with a good number of Spanish and indeed Catalan players again.

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By bema - 27-12-2011 07:12

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It makes me glad that you know of the history and developement of FCB. And yes i agree with you, i really think that every team should have a base with their own player and spice things up with some foreign stars.... But its hard to blame the clubs for this, its after all a civilian court thing that made it possible for european players or players related to european countries to play freely in the EU. I like Arsenal best in england because they tried to implement this style of play but only witch Cesc as the key, i dont think they could have done that with domestic british players. They are very skilled in kick & run but not so much in the technical passing style that tiki-taki demands. But you are right, it really was the french foreign legion there for a while....and the same goes for FCB with the dutch.... I think that FCB realised during this process that they needed to build from the ground. Today they can pick up 6 or 7 form the B squad playing in Segunda to face a team from Ukraine or Russia and still win by 4-0 in CL when FCB already is clear for the next round. It must be the future. I like RM, they play ha completely different football...but they have failed on one clear point, they still buy these players at their top of their career and try to cut n paste them into their team.... Same goes for Chelsea and City....it cant be good.It makes me glad that you know of the history and developement of FCB.
And yes i agree with you, i really think that every team should have a base with their own player and spice things up with some foreign stars....

But its hard to blame the clubs for this, its after all a civilian court thing that made it possible for european players or players related to european countries to play freely in the EU.

I like Arsenal best in england because they tried to implement this style of play but only witch Cesc as the key, i dont think they could have done that with domestic british players. They are very skilled in kick & run but not so much in the technical passing style that tiki-taki demands.

But you are right, it really was the french foreign legion there for a while....and the same goes for FCB with the dutch....

I think that FCB realised during this process that they needed to build from the ground.
Today they can pick up 6 or 7 form the B squad playing in Segunda to face a team from Ukraine or Russia and still win by 4-0 in CL when FCB already is clear for the next round. It must be the future.

I like RM, they play ha completely different football...but they have failed on one clear point, they still buy these players at their top of their career and try to cut n paste them into their team....

Same goes for Chelsea and City....it cant be good.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By kabaddi21 - 27-12-2011 14:01

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Great post kingjaime, i especially agree with you on the fine line between total football and tiki taka, a lot of people get confused but they are NOT the same. The dutch have always had an influence on the club especially Cruyff. I would say the football that FCB play is like a hybird of dutch total football and spanish tiki taka. So yes it would be wrong to say the dutch invented this style of play.Great post kingjaime, i especially agree with you on the fine line between total football and tiki taka, a lot of people get confused but they are NOT the same. The dutch have always had an influence on the club especially Cruyff. I would say the football that FCB play is like a hybird of dutch total football and spanish tiki taka. So yes it would be wrong to say the dutch invented this style of play.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rockstarroberts - 27-12-2011 15:54

no personal grudge, just their reign is over, every team owns for a few years or a little bit of a decade and they have, but they're doneno personal grudge, just their reign is over, every team owns for a few years or a little bit of a decade and they have, but they're done

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By tpc1011 - 29-12-2011 08:08

I heard Barcelona has outscored its opponents 29-1 in the month of December. That's pretty damn good. They've only conceded 8 goals in 16 league matches. It's pretty hard to score goals when you only have 30% possession. I'm not sure why anyone would think their reign is over.I heard Barcelona has outscored its opponents 29-1 in the month of December. That's pretty damn good. They've only conceded 8 goals in 16 league matches. It's pretty hard to score goals when you only have 30% possession. I'm not sure why anyone would think their reign is over.

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By bema - 29-12-2011 18:05

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Well i guess the only logical explanation to rockstarroberts thinking is that it must rain after sunshine. But that aint a very hard predicition to make. It is easier not to predict any trophies especially when it comes to winning them in a row. It would be a huge achievement to do so.... As long as Iniesta-Xavi-Messi is well and fit...FCB will remain favourites in any game they participate in, world wide.....whether they win it or not.Well i guess the only logical explanation to rockstarroberts thinking is that it must rain after sunshine.

But that aint a very hard predicition to make.
It is easier not to predict any trophies especially when it comes to winning them in a row.

It would be a huge achievement to do so....

As long as Iniesta-Xavi-Messi is well and fit...FCB will remain favourites in any game they participate in, world wide.....whether they win it or not.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By rivercampion - 19-01-2012 04:41

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One more time was demonstrated today! Barcelona beat Real Madrid at their home for the Copa del Rey. One more time today they showed Barça is the better team. CR7 scored a nice goal 10 min into the game but that was it , he absolutely disappear . Today it was clearly shown who is the real team and who are the dirty 'actors' Pepe was disgusting was truly anti-football , he is a disgrace for the sport. Not only he played like he usually does, to destroy and kick legs , but in this thread they were talking of 'acting' and diving. Today first Pepe got a yellow for a violent foul, then after deserving a second yellow for numerous violent plays. Pepe "faked" literally it was an Oscar winning performance that he was hit in the face that stop and attack of Barcelona . Then we have to read here that Barcelona is the faking team ... Then it the maximum display of lack of sportsmanship and dirty play Pepe 'stomped' Messi's hand when he was sitting in the ground. un-be-lie-va-ble and the ref didn't see him? Even Rooney tweeted how stupid Pepe is. Conceincao also hit Messi's head while on the ground and numerous violent plays by Ramos, X. Alonso deserving second yellows and out. But no matter the best team won by a beautiful pass from Messi to Abidal they scored the winning goal. Oh Barça what a team even though today you were not superb it was more than enough to beat Real Madrid and deservedly so.One more time was demonstrated today!

Barcelona beat Real Madrid at their home for the Copa del Rey.

One more time today they showed Barça is the better team.

CR7 scored a nice goal 10 min into the game but that was it , he absolutely disappear .

Today it was clearly shown who is the real team and who are the dirty 'actors'

Pepe was disgusting was truly anti-football , he is a disgrace for the sport. Not only he played like he usually does, to destroy and kick legs , but in this thread they were talking of 'acting' and diving.
Today first Pepe got a yellow for a violent foul, then after deserving a second yellow for numerous violent plays. Pepe "faked" literally it was an Oscar winning performance that he was hit in the face that stop and attack of Barcelona . Then we have to read here that Barcelona is the faking team ...

Then it the maximum display of lack of sportsmanship and dirty play Pepe 'stomped' Messi's hand when he was sitting in the ground. un-be-lie-va-ble and the ref didn't see him? Even Rooney tweeted how stupid Pepe is.

Conceincao also hit Messi's head while on the ground and numerous violent plays by Ramos, X. Alonso deserving second yellows and out.

But no matter the best team won by a beautiful pass from Messi to Abidal they scored the winning goal.

Oh Barça what a team even though today you were not superb it was more than enough to beat Real Madrid and deservedly so.

Re: Oh ...Barça what a team!

By chelseax1 - 19-01-2012 11:51

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i think barca players themselves sometime get bored with no equal competitor n lose points here n there. u put them against a gd side,thats when u get to see the real barca. i know they dive a lot but who doesn't if it help. u need a little devil in u to win all of them. but........... barca suck chelsea rocks (not now but soon will)i think barca players themselves sometime get bored with no equal competitor n lose points here n there.
u put them against a gd side,thats when u get to see the real barca.
i know they dive a lot but who doesn't if it help.
u need a little devil in u to win all of them.

but...........
barca suck
chelsea rocks
(not now but soon will)

 

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