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thank you for new sim

By gregorrozman - 24-10-2011 11:41

dear developers, may i express my thanks for less goals scored per game; thank you also for more clean sheets and more drawn matches, ... thank you for football feel to the game i've experienced first in years after i joined managerzone. i am sure you will be able to correct some problems with the match in new versions of the sim but please, leave the goal scoring average lower. please, insist on having football scores and do not let the stupid users prevail. you know there exists a football quocient, not only intelectual or emotional quocients. :) thank you for the football! love, gregor & his team of bald mz footballers who hate stupid defencesdear developers,

may i express my thanks for less goals scored per game; thank you also for more clean sheets and more drawn matches, ... thank you for football feel to the game i've experienced first in years after i joined managerzone.

i am sure you will be able to correct some problems with the match in new versions of the sim but please, leave the goal scoring average lower. please, insist on having football scores and do not let the stupid users prevail. you know there exists a football quocient, not only intelectual or emotional quocients. :)

thank you for the football!

love,

gregor & his team of bald mz footballers who hate stupid defences

 

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Re: thank you for new sim

By ghimpisoru - 24-10-2011 13:14

[LEGEND]

Afrimesti - Taquello FC (24/10/2011 12:00) Shoots on target : 19-4, Score 2-2. Afrimesti team value : over 8 mil. Taquello team value : under 3 mil. Absolute domination (19-4) , major value difference ( 8mil. / 2.8mil ) score 2-2 Thank you for the managerzone LOTERY simulator This would never happend with the old simulators. Current SIM is an offence to the minimal common sense. Because of these ERRORS you can lose a championship, or a cup qualification, along with the whole season hard work. I have at least 20 more examples like this The new managerzone LOTTERY simulator is simply an offence to common sense and simple logic.Afrimesti - Taquello FC (24/10/2011 12:00) Shoots on target : 19-4, Score 2-2.


Afrimesti team value : over 8 mil.
Taquello team value : under 3 mil.

Absolute domination (19-4) , major value difference ( 8mil. / 2.8mil ) score 2-2

Thank you for the managerzone LOTERY simulator

This would never happend with the old simulators. Current SIM is an offence to the minimal common sense. Because of these ERRORS you can lose a championship, or a cup qualification, along with the whole season hard work.

I have at least 20 more examples like this

The new managerzone LOTTERY simulator is simply an offence to common sense and simple logic.

Sv: thank you for new sim

By jensa71 - 24-10-2011 13:46

[MZ]

I also like the new sim. Not perfect, but a major step in the right direction. :)I also like the new sim. Not perfect, but a major step in the right direction. :)

Re: thank you for new sim

By herman666 - 24-10-2011 19:11

the old sim was not perfect, but the new one instead of more real scores is crapthe old sim was not perfect, but the new one instead of more real scores is crap

Re: thank you for new sim

By chorrion1951 - 24-10-2011 19:21

[MZ]

gregorrozman: for sure you love too Lotery games and Pinball machine games but, here we are talking about soccer Sim games.gregorrozman: for sure you love too Lotery games and Pinball machine games but, here we are talking about soccer Sim games.

Re: thank you for new sim

By gregorrozman - 24-10-2011 21:52

the new sim is a step in right direction. i am sure the developers will make attackers perform more confident towards the goal and not pass the ball behind all the time. and by doing that i hope defenders will tackle the ball more than they did in old sim, so we could keep this fantastic football scores. the problem with users who are not so football intelligent as those who eat, sleep and drink football is that they see the sim through 3d first and statistics second. i am sure developers are doing all they can to ensure sometime in future a more realistic display in 3d and other match viewers. until then dear colleagues, have a nice pinball game!the new sim is a step in right direction. i am sure the developers will make attackers perform more confident towards the goal and not pass the ball behind all the time. and by doing that i hope defenders will tackle the ball more than they did in old sim, so we could keep this fantastic football scores.

the problem with users who are not so football intelligent as those who eat, sleep and drink football is that they see the sim through 3d first and statistics second. i am sure developers are doing all they can to ensure sometime in future a more realistic display in 3d and other match viewers.

until then dear colleagues, have a nice pinball game!

Sv: thank you for new sim

By jensa71 - 26-10-2011 09:41

[MZ]

+1 gregorrozman+1 gregorrozman

Re: thank you for new sim

By gregorrozman - 27-10-2011 08:28

i hear a gossip among the national teams managers (who see other teams and their players skills) that teams with keeping @10 and shooting @10 are exceptional powerful. i think that coeficient of keeping and shooting in both cases should be about 9,5 and not 10. because i think this is the year that managers with 10 will prevail. just a suggestion.i hear a gossip among the national teams managers (who see other teams and their players skills) that teams with keeping @10 and shooting @10 are exceptional powerful. i think that coeficient of keeping and shooting in both cases should be about 9,5 and not 10. because i think this is the year that managers with 10 will prevail.

just a suggestion.

Ang: thank you for new sim

By fekser - 29-10-2011 05:22

@gregorrozman Fantastic scores!? You must be kidding right? Yes It seems more realistic with lesser goals but when you play games where you have 70-30% in ball possesion and 34-9 shots at goal but still looses the game 1-2 then the realism vanish completely! Furthermore the accuracy in passing for my players has risen to incredible 95-98% in every game... My god... maybe I should contact FC Barcelona and make them even more godly? I doom this new sim just as unrealistic as the old one but now a game is unbearable to watch. Crap!@gregorrozman

Fantastic scores!? You must be kidding right? Yes It seems more realistic with lesser goals but when you play games where you have 70-30% in ball possesion and 34-9 shots at goal but still looses the game 1-2 then the realism vanish completely! Furthermore the accuracy in passing for my players has risen to incredible 95-98% in every game... My god... maybe I should contact FC Barcelona and make them even more godly?

I doom this new sim just as unrealistic as the old one but now a game is unbearable to watch. Crap!

Re: thank you for new sim

By calonino - 31-10-2011 20:18

[Azteca]

This sim is the worst I ever seen, thx for ruin the game.This sim is the worst I ever seen, thx for ruin the game.

Re: thank you for new sim

By jhndos - 01-11-2011 07:01

[AUSNZ]

Eat sleep and have no idea how you think its right for a striker to pass when he is 1 0n 1 with the keeper ??? I agree that the new sim score wise is better, but and its a BIG BUT the rediculous back passing from strikers has to stop . Oh and another 1 please get the players on the same wave length.Eat sleep and have no idea how you think its right for a striker to pass when he is 1 0n 1 with the keeper ???
I agree that the new sim score wise is better, but and its a BIG BUT the rediculous back passing from strikers has to stop . Oh and another 1 please get the players on the same wave length.

Re: thank you for new sim

By pepecallejero - 01-11-2011 19:09

too ironic.... hope crew can fix the problems and make a real simulator that simulates the players skills as they are....too ironic.... hope crew can fix the problems and make a real simulator that simulates the players skills as they are....

Re: thank you for new sim

By jhndos - 01-11-2011 23:46

[AUSNZ]

fekser: Agree completely but can i have some of your players mine who have a min of 7 passing attributes cannot pass for the life of them ( they keep passing backwards to opposition players when in the clear ) :). And if your having 34 shots on goals can i have your striker too? coz mine keeps passing back to midfield when he is clear :)fekser:
Agree completely but can i have some of your players mine who have a min of 7 passing attributes cannot pass for the life of them ( they keep passing backwards to opposition players when in the clear ) :). And if your having 34 shots on goals can i have your striker too? coz mine keeps passing back to midfield when he is clear :)

Re: thank you for new sim

By gregorrozman - 05-11-2011 09:07

dear friends, remember the last match betwen barcelona and ac milan? 2:2. shots on goal 20:2, possession 70-30, ... what would you say about that match? these are stories that football writes and because of them football is great. yes, if you have an outstanding strikers, you can win a match even if you put men behind the ball. that is football. i would also like to congratulate for the effect of random. in real football there are no guarantees a player will play like his skills are. let's call it 'the invisible form'. let's have invisible balls of invisible skills. because when you go to the market you never know how the player you buy would react in your style of play. remember torres? milito? owen? van persie? are those players performing great every time, friends? take good care, bald managerdear friends,

remember the last match betwen barcelona and ac milan? 2:2. shots on goal 20:2, possession 70-30, ...

what would you say about that match?

these are stories that football writes and because of them football is great.

yes, if you have an outstanding strikers, you can win a match even if you put men behind the ball.

that is football.

i would also like to congratulate for the effect of random. in real football there are no guarantees a player will play like his skills are. let's call it 'the invisible form'. let's have invisible balls of invisible skills. because when you go to the market you never know how the player you buy would react in your style of play. remember torres? milito? owen? van persie? are those players performing great every time, friends?

take good care,

bald manager

Re: thank you for new sim

By hendryx - 06-11-2011 16:14

gregorrozman that is Ok for Barcelona and AC Milan, but not for a football Sim. This is a online simulator game not real football, most of us here want to participate in a game that is SIMILAR TO FOOTBALL BUT NOT REAL FOOTBALL. We don't care about passing statistics, instead we want the young players the game provide us grow and participate in League and Cup matches. 90% of managers, those that are in divisions from 2 to the lowest one, don't have any possibilty of getting top notch players, they have average players and they want them to play according to their skills. MZ says that managers should train players to improve skills, that's the core of the game. Now that is useless. Why should managers hire several coaches if just with one coach that is good at passing will be enough? Another point is scoring. Last seasson I was in 3div, the best of 3div of Chile. According to statistics, that div it was better than a couple of 2div. One of my strikers was the top scorer of the league, my team was number one in scoring goals. My two main strikers have 9 and 8 balls at shooting, now with the new SIM they have scored 3 goals in 6 matches. All they do now is either shooting balls out of stadium or direct to the hands of keeper. Sad. Ah, I almost forget, in the old SIM, players and teams have good and also bad days, skills weren't a warranty of a team victory. There were other factors like Tactics, but now Tactics are also useless, just put a lot of players in midfield, were the ball is 95% of the time (yawnnn!!) and that's it. Really I think the new SIM has lost the point. This is a game not only for the 3 teams en each league that have possibilities of succeed at the end of each seasson, this is a game for the average player. If crew doesn't understand that, in short time there will be a few good teams and a lot of bots.gregorrozman that is Ok for Barcelona and AC Milan, but not for a football Sim. This is a online simulator game not real football, most of us here want to participate in a game that is SIMILAR TO FOOTBALL BUT NOT REAL FOOTBALL.

We don't care about passing statistics, instead we want the young players the game provide us grow and participate in League and Cup matches. 90% of managers, those that are in divisions from 2 to the lowest one, don't have any possibilty of getting top notch players, they have average players and they want them to play according to their skills.

MZ says that managers should train players to improve skills, that's the core of the game. Now that is useless. Why should managers hire several coaches if just with one coach that is good at passing will be enough?

Another point is scoring. Last seasson I was in 3div, the best of 3div of Chile. According to statistics, that div it was better than a couple of 2div. One of my strikers was the top scorer of the league, my team was number one in scoring goals. My two main strikers have 9 and 8 balls at shooting, now with the new SIM they have scored 3 goals in 6 matches. All they do now is either shooting balls out of stadium or direct to the hands of keeper. Sad.

Ah, I almost forget, in the old SIM, players and teams have good and also bad days, skills weren't a warranty of a team victory. There were other factors like Tactics, but now Tactics are also useless, just put a lot of players in midfield, were the ball is 95% of the time (yawnnn!!) and that's it.

Really I think the new SIM has lost the point. This is a game not only for the 3 teams en each league that have possibilities of succeed at the end of each seasson, this is a game for the average player. If crew doesn't understand that, in short time there will be a few good teams and a lot of bots.

Re: thank you for new sim

By jhndos - 07-11-2011 23:40

[AUSNZ]

Firstly I agree with hendryx : Question How much better would the SIM be if the strikers could score as they should 1 on 1 with the keeper ? With the way the SIM is now low score more passing LESS goals it would alomost be an excellent game if MZ could rid itself of the inability of Quality strikers unable to beat a keeper either from close range or even as has happened to moe on so many occasions 2, sometimes 3 forwards against 1 keeperf or 0 goals ?. When you train/ tranfer players in and out for the sole purpose of becoming a better Team and you end up with 2 strikers both with 9 shoot 8 pi 8 b/c and 5 pass, 7 stam, and another forward with 8 shoot, 7 b/c 8 pi, 7 passing you would have to think you have a strike force second to none ? . As i have mentioned in another forum 92 shots on goal for a grand total of 7 goals ?. Now if MZ can acknowlege striker values = quality the SIM will be fine . And im not asking for every one on one with a keeper to score, im asking for a %60-40 in the strikers favour to score, and for multiple forwards free against no defenders with only the keeper to beat %95 in favour of the strikers. (they should have the smarts to either beat the keeper or move the ball around enough times to have the keeper in the wrong position in goal). Right now you can have a striker valued at $400000 and he will do the same things as a $1.5million striker, whats the point of the tranfer market if this continues ?. And i would also like point out if the strikers now in this version of the SIM can waltz around defenders as the do why not around keepers ?.Firstly
I agree with hendryx :

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How much better would the SIM be if the strikers could score as they should 1 on 1 with the keeper ? With the way the SIM is now low score more passing LESS goals it would alomost be an excellent game if MZ could rid itself of the inability of Quality strikers unable to beat a keeper either from close range or even as has happened to moe on so many occasions 2, sometimes 3 forwards against 1 keeperf or 0 goals ?.

When you train/ tranfer players in and out for the sole purpose of becoming a better Team and you end up with 2 strikers both with 9 shoot 8 pi 8 b/c and 5 pass, 7 stam, and another forward with 8 shoot, 7 b/c 8 pi, 7 passing you would have to think you have a strike force second to none ? . As i have mentioned in another forum 92 shots on goal for a grand total of 7 goals ?.

Now if MZ can acknowlege striker values = quality the SIM will be fine .
And im not asking for every one on one with a keeper to score, im asking for a %60-40 in the strikers favour to score, and for multiple forwards free against no defenders with only the keeper to beat %95 in favour of the strikers. (they should have the smarts to either beat the keeper or move the ball around enough times to have the keeper in the wrong position in goal).

Right now you can have a striker valued at $400000 and he will do the same things as a $1.5million striker, whats the point of the tranfer market if this continues ?.

And i would also like point out if the strikers now in this version of the SIM can waltz around defenders as the do why not around keepers ?.

Re: thank you for new sim

By jhndos - 08-11-2011 00:17

[AUSNZ]

gregorrozman : Regarding Ac V Barca I have not seen the game . Going by what you have written AC was the away team and counter attacked extremely well and defended well . Barca on the other hand threw everything at AC but failed to have enough defenders when AC rebounded . Conclusion AC defended, better and their strikers took their chances . Now play the game again maybe 3 times, would you get the same result ? I would be willing to say Barca should win 2 out of 3 simply because of the value of the players (you want the best you pay the best IE Madrid thats not to say they allways win but they win way more than they lose or draw ). Now answer me this why wont you see Swansee V Barca ? (yep $$$$ )and if a mirical happened what do you think the score would be ? certainly not 2:2, you like me would say Barca would destroy Swansee, unless ofcourse your using MZ as the game where a team of Swansee's value can and beat a team with Barcas value.. In MZ at the moment a team worth 6 million and only 10 players on the park can beat a team worth 14million and 11 players on the park .gregorrozman :

Regarding Ac V Barca I have not seen the game .
Going by what you have written AC was the away team and counter attacked extremely well and defended well . Barca on the other hand threw everything at AC but failed to have enough defenders when AC rebounded . Conclusion AC defended, better and their strikers took their chances .

Now play the game again maybe 3 times, would you get the same result ?
I would be willing to say Barca should win 2 out of 3 simply because of the value of the players (you want the best you pay the best IE Madrid thats not to say they allways win but they win way more than they lose or draw ).
Now answer me this why wont you see Swansee V Barca ? (yep $$$$ )and if a mirical happened what do you think the score would be ? certainly not 2:2, you like me would say Barca would destroy Swansee, unless ofcourse your using MZ as the game where a team of Swansee's value can and beat a team with Barcas value..

In MZ at the moment a team worth 6 million and only 10 players on the park can beat a team worth 14million and 11 players on the park .

Re: thank you for new sim

By chorrion1951 - 08-11-2011 21:28

[MZ]

New SIM is: BORING !!! UNREAL !!! it is just a Pinball Machine Game. But, Patrick & MZ Crew are very happy and they are not doing any more in order to fix their terrible job !!! Congratulations gentlemen, you destroyed the game...... good for you !!!!New SIM is: BORING !!! UNREAL !!! it is just a Pinball Machine Game.
But, Patrick & MZ Crew are very happy and they are not doing any more in order to fix their terrible job !!!
Congratulations gentlemen, you destroyed the game...... good for you !!!!

Re: thank you for new sim

By gregorrozman - 16-11-2011 16:40

damn. sim is changing again. i see there were more goals today. more than 4 per game and it's 2,5 in real football. i just played a defensive 5-3-2 game with a bit better team and lost 4:3. that's not real. it should have been 1:0 or 0:0. i hope developers turn better meaning to defenders because it seems like they are not there. still think the new sim is better (must only improve it to silence sceptics and footbal exotics). gotta run fellas, baldie guydamn. sim is changing again. i see there were more goals today. more than 4 per game and it's 2,5 in real football. i just played a defensive 5-3-2 game with a bit better team and lost 4:3. that's not real. it should have been 1:0 or 0:0.

i hope developers turn better meaning to defenders because it seems like they are not there.

still think the new sim is better (must only improve it to silence sceptics and footbal exotics).

gotta run fellas,

baldie guy

Re: thank you for new sim

By kinetic1 - 18-11-2011 05:35

gregorrozman..... If you're looking at this game to mirror real football you might want to have a seat my friend. In real football you have matches that end in ridiculous scores as well (8-2), (7-1) and so on. So just because you think you fielded a better tactic, squad, tank, whatever you have to take into account your team's form. If you change tactics, player positions, etc. too frequently you're going to screw up your form therefore more than likely causing you to have a outcome like you said you had. I will agree that the sim has improved a maybe a couple of areas but they totally left what they had done decently in the past go into the deep end. It's totally inconsistent and now if you look at everyone's tactics they're all rrrreally similar........that sucks. It was nice when everyone had their own little personal tactic that actually functioned.gregorrozman.....

If you're looking at this game to mirror real football you might want to have a seat my friend. In real football you have matches that end in ridiculous scores as well (8-2), (7-1) and so on. So just because you think you fielded a better tactic, squad, tank, whatever you have to take into account your team's form. If you change tactics, player positions, etc. too frequently you're going to screw up your form therefore more than likely causing you to have a outcome like you said you had. I will agree that the sim has improved a maybe a couple of areas but they totally left what they had done decently in the past go into the deep end. It's totally inconsistent and now if you look at everyone's tactics they're all rrrreally similar........that sucks. It was nice when everyone had their own little personal tactic that actually functioned.

Re: thank you for new sim

By jhndos - 11-12-2011 05:58

[AUSNZ]

Enough of the rediculous back passing , its becoming an absoloute joke MZ cut it out . Why would unless ofcourse your an idiot therefore wouldnt be playing the game pass the ball to a team mate that has 2 sometimes 3 oppositions players on him but not pass to your teammate thats all on his own ? stupid just plain stupid How hard is it to understand value = quality = skill= results no we have a lottey . Why dont you get it MZ?? Rediculous cut out the efffn stupid back passing no player in their right mind would pass back to mid field when running into open goal Im sick of it costing me resultsEnough of the rediculous back passing , its becoming an absoloute joke MZ cut it out . Why would unless ofcourse your an idiot therefore wouldnt be playing the game pass the ball to a team mate that has 2 sometimes 3 oppositions players on him but not pass to your teammate thats all on his own ? stupid just plain stupid

How hard is it to understand value = quality = skill= results
no we have a lottey . Why dont you get it MZ??

Rediculous cut out the efffn stupid back passing no player in their right mind would pass back to mid field when running into open goal

Im sick of it costing me results

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By bestplaymaker2134 - 12-12-2011 06:28

[AUSNZ]

value, quality skill all lead to higher percent of winning a game, just cos one better is better it doesnt mean that they will always win. And you really need to change your tactics cos backpassing aint THAT bad, well at least they aint from my players...value, quality skill all lead to higher percent of winning a game, just cos one better is better it doesnt mean that they will always win. And you really need to change your tactics cos backpassing aint THAT bad, well at least they aint from my players...

Re: thank you for new sim

By jhndos - 12-12-2011 23:19

[AUSNZ]

bestplaymaker2134 You cannot be serious ? surely you can understand the theory ? And no i dont expect to win every game that would be ignorant ,what i do expect is to win most of the games played against teams with team values less that half mine,to me its like Man U getting beaten by QPR every 3rd game ??? IT JUST DOESNT HAPPEN, its a simple theory every damn football club does it, yes not every team gets it right and not every player is worth the cash IE Torres, infact even you do it you look at the players attributes and if he has 9 shooting, 8 stamina ,9 play it, 8 ball control ,6 passing,5 tackling 8 speed, and he is between 22-27 how much will you pay ??? $100.000, $500.000, 1mill, 2mill, 3mill ?. If you want the best players dont you have to pay the highest price ? and if your buying the best players dont you expect the atrributes they would posses to be relevant ? . Well im sorry to burst your bubble this does not occur in this SIM because you could spent 3million on a striker and get the exact same results from a $500.000 striker, and neither of them would go around the keeper one on one . Also my wing tactic is yes better than the other tactics that would send me to an assylum, with long ball tactic striker would run into goal and with only the keeper to beat , he would then pass back to where ?? yep midfield , using passing tactic players will continually pass the ball to team mates surrounded by 2-3 opposition players ? and ofcourse pass back to midifeld when in a scoring position, wing tactic though better than the other 2 still has a tendency to pass to teammates surrounded still passes to teamates when in scoring position . I look at where i am in the league and its probably the correct position, but with 102 shots on goal against the top 4 teams for 3 goals scored i have to wonder is that a reasonable return ?.bestplaymaker2134
You cannot be serious ? surely you can understand the theory ? And no i dont expect to win every game that would be ignorant ,what i do expect is to win most of the games played against teams with team values less that half mine,to me its like Man U getting beaten by QPR every 3rd game ??? IT JUST DOESNT HAPPEN, its a simple theory every damn football club does it, yes not every team gets it right and not every player is worth the cash IE Torres, infact even you do it you look at the players attributes and if he has 9 shooting, 8 stamina ,9 play it, 8 ball control ,6 passing,5 tackling 8 speed, and he is between 22-27 how much will you pay ??? $100.000, $500.000, 1mill, 2mill, 3mill ?. If you want the best players dont you have to pay the highest price ? and if your buying the best players dont you expect the atrributes they would posses to be relevant ? . Well im sorry to burst your bubble this does not occur in this SIM because you could spent 3million on a striker and get the exact same results from a $500.000 striker, and neither of them would go around the keeper one on one .
Also my wing tactic is yes better than the other tactics that would send me to an assylum, with long ball tactic striker would run into goal and with only the keeper to beat , he would then pass back to where ?? yep midfield , using passing tactic players will continually pass the ball to team mates surrounded by 2-3 opposition players ? and ofcourse pass back to midifeld when in a scoring position, wing tactic though better than the other 2 still has a tendency to pass to teammates surrounded still passes to teamates when in scoring position . I look at where i am in the league and its probably the correct position, but with 102 shots on goal against the top 4 teams for 3 goals scored i have to wonder is that a reasonable return ?.

 

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