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The oxi.se top11 tool back online on new domain

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Together with user popup_89 we have managed to get the oxi.se top11 tool back online on a new domain: http://mz-top11.se/

This has been a popular tool in the swedish community for many years, not sure how much it´ve been used in the other communities. But wanted to tell you anyway.

Enjoy!
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Re: The oxi.se top11 tool back online on new domain

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Great news! Thank you both.

Ant: The oxi.se top11 tool back online on new domain

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Thanks a lot! This is tool I used a lot

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That's brilliant. I use this tool a lot.

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Thanks guys!!

Ce: The oxi.se top11 tool back online on new domain

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Thanks a lot

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How to copy data to see the info ?!

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djbond wrote:
How to copy data to see the info ?!


Also don't understand what alternative view is. Is it some feature that ceased to exist within the game?

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djbond wrote:
How to copy data to see the info ?!


rfrost wrote:
Also don't understand what alternative view is. Is it some feature that ceased to exist within the game?


In english that would be the squad summary page. Then copy your player data like in the picture below. I think you need to be on the desktopversion of mz. The mobile version´s player summary does not have the complete data and won´t work

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There seems to be an issue with the name and name of the player!

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[url=https://ibb.co/9G9vYVC][/url]

Sv: The oxi.se top11 tool back online on new domain

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That seems weird. The other data seems to be correct. Do you want to post your copied information here or in my messenger/guestbook so i can have a look?

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I sent you a google sheet link on messenger to look at.

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I find the issue. So to get the right data ( number and name of players ) we must also paste the " header "
" Nr. Name Value Salary ..."

Sv: The oxi.se top11 tool back online on new domain

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Hmm, it works for me with your data (see picture). Have you tried a different browser? I´m on Google Chrome here.

Sv: The oxi.se top11 tool back online on new domain

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djbond wrote:
I find the issue. So to get the right data ( number and name of players ) we must also paste the " header "
" Nr. Name Value Salary ..."


Hah, that´s good! I didnt need to do that with your data nor anytime I tried myself so i can´t really answer why. But as long as it works I guess :). Enjoy!

Ant: The oxi.se top11 tool back online on new domain

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Nice tool!

Who determined what value each skill receives per position?

And are the positions still relevant for the current SIM?

Perhaps an update of the tool is appropriate, right?

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mwosle wrote:
Nice tool!

Who determined what value each skill receives per position?

And are the positions still relevant for the current SIM?

Perhaps an update of the tool is appropriate, right?


Its an old tool and the values were decided by voting from some top managers in the Swedish community a looong time ago.

So its not up to date with todays SIM. For example it doesnt value cross balls/heading correct so for wing play its quite off. But for short passing i'll say its still sufficient and still used as a tool to compare teams over time.

Sure needed of an update to get in line with todays SIM but that requires time and effort and im not sure if that will happen.

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ersonmarkus wrote:
Its an old tool and the values were decided by voting from some top managers in the Swedish community a looong time ago.

So its not up to date with todays SIM. For example it doesnt value cross balls/heading correct so for wing play its quite off. But for short passing i'll say its still sufficient and still used as a tool to compare teams over time.

Sure needed of an update to get in line with todays SIM but that requires time and effort and im not sure if that will happen.


Is it so insurmountable that you can do the same thinking exercise?

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mwosle wrote:
Is it so insurmountable that you can do the same thinking exercise?


You mean why we cant have another voting for new values? Sure we can, but someone needs to lead that project (not me) and then develop the site with new function and values (not me).
Don´t get me wrong, I´d love to see it developed but I dont have the time to gather that data or the skill to develop the functions.

To edit the existing values would be rather easy and something even I could manage but then you would ruin the possibility to measure your top11´s MzValue with teams from the past. So I´ll say you probably want a new function for either just wing play so you can swap between old(sp) and new(wing) values or a hybrid that takes both wings/SP in account.

And with that being said - if there is someone out there who wants the code and are willing to continue hosting/developing it - just reach out.

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ersonmarkus wrote:
You mean why we cant have another voting for new values? Sure we can, but someone needs to lead that project (not me) and then develop the site with new function and values (not me).
Don´t get me wrong, I´d love to see it developed but I dont have the time to gather that data or the skill to develop the functions.

To edit the existing values would be rather easy and something even I could manage but then you would ruin the possibility to measure your top11´s MzValue with teams from the past. So I´ll say you probably want a new function for either just wing play so you can swap between old(sp) and new(wing) values or a hybrid that takes both wings/SP in account.

And with that being said - if there is someone out there who wants the code and are willing to continue hosting/developing it - just reach out.


Depending on the language used to develop it I might be able to update it

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You can also look at the calculator of MZ-Live https://mzlive.eu/calculator/.

I think that one is a bit more up to date with also calculations for Anchorman and for Wingers. This is the full list of positions they use in calculation.
  • Keeper
  • Defender
  • Midfielder
  • Winger
  • Anchorman
  • Forward


I deducted the values behind it to calculate the values, ball control has the following values:

k: .09,
d: .08,
m: .12,
w: .15,
f: .15,
a: .1,

Only thing MZ-Live is missing is the generation of tactics.
 
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