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Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By riegelderpy - 28-07-2014 17:50

My first issue with the Simulator are way too defensive Midfielders, who never score goals or never run in the penalty box. The only ones who ever shoot goals are strikers, who only shoot 45% of the goals in real-life games, but shoot 95% of the goals in MZ. My second issue is the lack of wing play when setting passing style to "short" or "long", while there is wing play without exception when you set it to "wings". There is also a lack of defending styles. Passing is too inaccurate, even for players who are not as good in passing. Lack of distance shots and curved balls. Free kicks never go in. Practically no corner kicks and when there is one it goes exactly to the keeper. No sprint passes. No combination and dynamic players. No defender goals. No goals by the winger. No dribbling. Lacks first touch shots. Actions get played too slowly. No volleys. No height and weight difference in the 3D simulator (ok this one would be difficult) Pre-made situations instead of physics. I hope they hire some really good coders to improve the realism and entertainment value of the MZ simulations.My first issue with the Simulator are way too defensive Midfielders, who never score goals or never run in the penalty box. The only ones who ever shoot goals are strikers, who only shoot 45% of the goals in real-life games, but shoot 95% of the goals in MZ.

My second issue is the lack of wing play when setting passing style to "short" or "long", while there is wing play without exception when you set it to "wings". There is also a lack of defending styles.

Passing is too inaccurate, even for players who are not as good in passing.

Lack of distance shots and curved balls. Free kicks never go in.

Practically no corner kicks and when there is one it goes exactly to the keeper.

No sprint passes.

No combination and dynamic players.

No defender goals.

No goals by the winger.

No dribbling.

Lacks first touch shots.

Actions get played too slowly.

No volleys.

No height and weight difference in the 3D simulator (ok this one would be difficult)

Pre-made situations instead of physics.

I hope they hire some really good coders to improve the realism and entertainment value of the MZ simulations.

 

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Re: Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By adv41449 - 28-07-2014 21:54

[CUFC]
President

watch matches of top level clubs and you will see all that you ask for (sans combination play and "sprint" passes(?)) are already apart of the sim.watch matches of top level clubs and you will see all that you ask for (sans combination play and "sprint" passes(?)) are already apart of the sim.

Re: Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By mosmosmos - 28-07-2014 22:44

[ENG]

I guess a sprint pass is a though ball. It is hard to argue that the sim is realistic or dynamic though.

adv41449 wrote:

watch matches of top level clubs and you will see all that you ask for (sans combination play and "sprint" passes(?)) are already apart of the sim.

I guess a sprint pass is a though ball.

It is hard to argue that the sim is realistic or dynamic though.

Re: Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By adv41449 - 28-07-2014 22:49

[CUFC]
President

i agree, but the necessary AI needed to pull off realistic is massive.i agree, but the necessary AI needed to pull off realistic is massive.

Re: Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By riegelderpy - 02-08-2014 15:19

But it is totally worth it if you think about it. Should hire some top coders and get it right.But it is totally worth it if you think about it. Should hire some top coders and get it right.

Re: Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By geoclphredux - 02-08-2014 20:06

[MZ UKI]

Top coders aren't cheap.

riegelderpy wrote:

But it is totally worth it if you think about it. Should hire some top coders and get it right.

Top coders aren't cheap.

Re: Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By bestplaymaker2134 - 03-08-2014 09:37

[AUSNZ]

Completely disagree. As for the rest of them its pretty obvious, money would solve it easy.

riegelderpy wrote:

Passing is too inaccurate, even for players who are not as good in passing.

Lack of distance shots and curved balls. Free kicks never go in.

Practically no corner kicks and when there is one it goes exactly to the keeper.

No defender goals.

No goals by the winger.

No dribbling.

Completely disagree.

As for the rest of them its pretty obvious, money would solve it easy.

Re: Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By leonpryce15 - 06-08-2014 15:44

Wow I agree it need to be more realist and it need more physic to need to and situation also to see what the player will do if they in that situation and I heard simulator 3is coming maybe next seasonWow I agree it need to be more realist and it need more physic to need to and situation also to see what the player will do if they in that situation and I heard simulator 3is coming maybe next season

Re: Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By nekkolas_nic - 08-04-2015 23:26

[LM]

Is not only having a good coder. Thinking about how to define AI must be really freaking tough. I can't imagine where to start..Is not only having a good coder. Thinking about how to define AI must be really freaking tough. I can't imagine where to start..

Re: Simulator lacks realism and dynamics.

By geddin - 11-05-2015 19:46

I agree with many things mentioned here being unrealistic. For me its the most obvious is the movements of the players that don't look realistic to me, for some reason I can't put my finger on it, maybe it's to do with the ball being always stuck to the player's foot when they're running with it, it makes it appear as though they're skating (i don't know why), but it looks odd. Really for the whole thing to look more realistic the ball should disengaged with the player's foot in every stride or so they make. It really sucks for any division under division one, where every single game looks the same where the players dont show anything out of the ordinary, when you have a player beyond the value of 500k then certain players may time to time exhibit something different, for instance carrying the ball and moving in a circularly motion i guess its suppose to mimic a higher level of dribbling.I agree with many things mentioned here being unrealistic.

For me its the most obvious is the movements of the players that don't look realistic to me, for some reason I can't put my finger on it, maybe it's to do with the ball being always stuck to the player's foot when they're running with it, it makes it appear as though they're skating (i don't know why), but it looks odd. Really for the whole thing to look more realistic the ball should disengaged with the player's foot in every stride or so they make.

It really sucks for any division under division one, where every single game looks the same where the players dont show anything out of the ordinary, when you have a player beyond the value of 500k then certain players may time to time exhibit something different, for instance carrying the ball and moving in a circularly motion i guess its suppose to mimic a higher level of dribbling.

 

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