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By heddo - 27-07-2012 01:05

wow, the opening game was a crushing bore,i am so glad i was able to flick across to take in some of the Brazil V Egypt game, much better, how come our team is such a reservist mixture, especially looking at the Brazil team, they look to have picked a competetive and credible team, with a view to actually winning the competition, which is something we have not done, is this competition out of favour with our football authorities,sorry if i have missed something, like , who did we have in goal, it is such a shame we had the opportunity to pick a british team, we have definately blew this competition, my question is, were we not interested in it from the off, as this looks to be the case. cheers..wow, the opening game was a crushing bore,i am so glad i was able to flick across to take in some of the Brazil V Egypt game, much better, how come our team is such a reservist mixture, especially looking at the Brazil team, they look to have picked a competetive and credible team, with a view to actually winning the competition, which is something we have not done, is this competition out of favour with our football authorities,sorry if i have missed something, like , who did we have in goal, it is such a shame we had the opportunity to pick a british team, we have definately blew this competition, my question is, were we not interested in it from the off, as this looks to be the case. cheers..

 

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By kingjaime - 27-07-2012 04:29

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I think a couple of thoughts: (1) Britain took the stance that anyone involved in Euro 2012 wouldn't be picked. I suppose the players, certainly their clubs, might like the break, but I also would've thought a number would've been happy to play, particularly if they didn't play much or at all at Euro 2012. (2) Brazil are one of those countries where the footballing culture means they have any number of players ready and trusted to play national-level football by 18/19, and so can have players aged under 23 already be 5-6 year veterans of competitive senior football. In England it's very rare to see domestic players become first-team regulars before 19/20, let alone internationals. (Rooney and Wilshere are the only two that spring to mind.) Players like Oscar, Damiao, Ganso, Neymar and Pato are not occupying any of the over-23 places for them. (I don't know if he's injured, but they even left out Philippe Coutinho, who I think is as talented as any of them.) (3) Kinda related to thought 1, a lot of players just didn't really have the desire or interest. Read in the paper today about Gareth Bale scoring in some friendly for Tottenham having cried off the Olympics. Brazil have got hugely valuable, hugely experienced Thiago Silva, Marcelo and Hulk as their over-23s. We've got Micah Richards, 38yr old Ryan Giggs and 33yr old Craig Bellamy. (And had many calling for David Beckham of course.) In some ways, with the rule about taking no-one who went to the Euros, we made this inevitable. The England squad at the Euros was patchwork and the lowest quality we've had for ages. The English contribution to the GB squad, thanks to the "rule", had to be those who were not good enough to make out patchwork and low quality Euro squad. Which is kinda laughable to consider.I think a couple of thoughts:
(1) Britain took the stance that anyone involved in Euro 2012 wouldn't be picked. I suppose the players, certainly their clubs, might like the break, but I also would've thought a number would've been happy to play, particularly if they didn't play much or at all at Euro 2012.
(2) Brazil are one of those countries where the footballing culture means they have any number of players ready and trusted to play national-level football by 18/19, and so can have players aged under 23 already be 5-6 year veterans of competitive senior football. In England it's very rare to see domestic players become first-team regulars before 19/20, let alone internationals. (Rooney and Wilshere are the only two that spring to mind.) Players like Oscar, Damiao, Ganso, Neymar and Pato are not occupying any of the over-23 places for them. (I don't know if he's injured, but they even left out Philippe Coutinho, who I think is as talented as any of them.)
(3) Kinda related to thought 1, a lot of players just didn't really have the desire or interest. Read in the paper today about Gareth Bale scoring in some friendly for Tottenham having cried off the Olympics. Brazil have got hugely valuable, hugely experienced Thiago Silva, Marcelo and Hulk as their over-23s. We've got Micah Richards, 38yr old Ryan Giggs and 33yr old Craig Bellamy. (And had many calling for David Beckham of course.)

In some ways, with the rule about taking no-one who went to the Euros, we made this inevitable. The England squad at the Euros was patchwork and the lowest quality we've had for ages. The English contribution to the GB squad, thanks to the "rule", had to be those who were not good enough to make out patchwork and low quality Euro squad. Which is kinda laughable to consider.

 

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