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Dear Israeli member,
It's time for national coach voting again and I'm asking you to stop being so inactive. To be a national coach is desirable because it is the most reputable position in the MZ world. I hope you will make a right choice and vote for the appropriate candidate preventing some amateurs and nonprofessionals to take control of Israeli National Team only for fun and successfully ruin all that have been done until now.
I think that last season was a decent one for Israel, because beating teams like Scotland and Moldova and away tie with a future champion
U-21 Sweden (3:3), may definitely count as a certain achievement at this stage of our development.
Take into consideration, we established ourselves as a steady third tier team ranked 38th out of 100 and we did it being a small market team with an obvious lack of quality players and active users! As of today, we are taking steps for improving efficiency and reaching a second tier teams. It is not easy as quality of the team has to match its reputation.
Therefore, I see this as a long term project and based on my experience within the management staff, I believe I have what it takes to advance to the next level. We don't yet have a team of assistants in place, so any serious NCA runners will be welcomed.
Vote for 'semych' as your national coach.
Best Regards,
semych (Kabbalah Wizards' manager)
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I hope there is some interest in a NC position in Israel as it would be sad to see members of our community so inert.

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New NCAs have been appointed. Let's do the job, guys and Good Luck!

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Disappointing actual qualifiers, with a deserved 1-3 loss to Denmark and Romania (Algeria and Saudi Arabia gave up a walkover, so it doesn't count). Worth mentioning is that both qualified teams have a lineup that consists majorly of players that are 20 years old and therefore all around much better then ours. And that's not a bad result if we consider that we didn't get almost any new U21 player and it's basically the same team we had last season. We put a solid effort together as a team and weren't battered 0:7 or something like this. Hopefully a few of the current squad can train on, and we appear to be much stronger in defense than attack at this stage. We weren't able to put any serious attacking thread in the campaign, especially in a very even away game against MZ Country (1:2). The solution is quite simple - we need more hockey managers that are actually interested in the game to remain a competitive team there. Hopefully, with a bunch of new active managers coming to IHL and div.1 this season, combining with a proper training, we can build a U21 qualifier soon. A range of one year from now looks a realistic target to qualify. If you have an opinion on something that you think may improve the team, I'll gladly listen to any suggestions.

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Probably I should ask MZ assistants to rename this thread to 'Israel NT&Elections thread', so more users will be able to post here. Thanks in advance.

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Done ;)

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Perhaps you should ask all local managers to report to you when a promising young player comes in. I think you're doing a good job overall, just keep going!
And I guess it will take more than one year to qualify to U21Championship, cause we haven't enough good players yet.

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Here are the minimal requirements for an Israeli NT player. A number of pucks and values are irrelevant at this stage. In general, players with great power, stamina and reasonable mix of secondary skills are preferred.

GKs:
PI - 4
Skating - 4
Passing - 4
Quickness -5
Keeping - 9
Puck ctrl - 4
Stamina - 7

Defensemen:
Power - 7
Skating - 4
Quickness-6
Shooting - 2
Checking - 8
Stamina - 6

Wingers:
Power - 7
Skating -6
Quickness-6
Shooting -8
Checking -6
Stamina - 6

Centers:
Power - 8
Skating - 6
Quickness-7
Shooting - 7
Checking - 7
Stamina - 7

Please note that meeting aforementioned criteria will not guarantee the NT squad, but should give you an indication of what kind of players we are looking for. If a player is below the level in some key skills, they would need to be ahead in other skills to be considered for a NT. Feel free to GB me when you have a suitable candidate. Please post the players name and ID number either in my GB (preferable) or on the thread, and I will try to give you some feedback. Best Regards,

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what is the max age for a player?

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As far as I know, there is no age restrictions for senior players. And a quality veteran will be as useful as any other younger guy, at least for one season. Good luck!

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Under current circumstances, I think we did well in U21Championship. But in the upcoming European Championship, we have a pretty tough teams in our group:
Sweden, Italy, Turkey and Scotland. As our NC, do you think we have a chance to qualify out of that "Death House"?

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edit: I forgot Russia. Our group is: Sweden, Italy, Turkey , Russia and Scotland

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emerald7: With all my respect, that's a heck of a mission to complete. Barring Swedes that are IMHO an automatic qualifier, a second place, except us, is available to only one team out of a group of Turkey, Italy (both are upper echelon teams), Russia (a fast raising team) and Scotland. That said, we need to beat at least three of the aforementioned teams to gain a chance to qualify. Taking into account, we lost all friendlies to Italy and Russia in the past, a mission seems unrealistic, at least at this stage of our development. And with a positive winners' attitude and all those surprising SIM calculations, I am pretty sure we can become a competitive team only in a year or so. And that's not a pessimistic approach, but rather a realistic one - it takes time to build a winner! Therefore, this competition most likely will be yet another brick in the wall for us, i.e. a kind of testing strategies against stronger teams. Unfortunately, our progress strictly depends on a number of active managers in Israel. Best Regards,

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@semych you are making a big effort to rebuild Israeli national team and your conationals should respect that
the NC guys before you were so inactive but you will succed your way to succes I am sure of that
I wish you good luck and all the best

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Agree with sabiutza that semych is doing a great job as our National coach, no doubt about it. Only one more thing - you can be a tactic wizard and a Manager in your blood, but in order to operate properly you must be able to choose from. Like it was mentioned before, we need more active managers to expand a pool of players, otherwise all his efforts, as long as his follower's, are spent for nothing, cause you cannot build a good team fulled with ordinary players. It seems like we only have to wait and hope the game will be more popular here. Go Israel Go!

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Thank you guys. I won't hide it was nice to realize some people think my work lead to a positive changes. Hopefully we'll be all right in a couple of seasons. And now we are getting a hand from Crew - updating a new SIM and the last website skin may as well attract more potential gamers. Best Regards,

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We need more players like a retiring veteran Eliav Packado to succeed in our mission. This is a type of a defenceman we are looking for: http://mzplayer.se/?id=0403183959 . Best Regards,

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Surprisingly, after first three matches in European Championship Israel holds a 1st position. We just have beaten Italy with a whopping 5:1 victory. Unbelievable!
In the upcoming matches we have two great powerhouses in Sweden and Turkey and we must get 4 points there in order to have a chance to go further. Seems like "Mission Impossible 2", but the same thing I could tell you about Italy just few days ago. With a new SIM no result seems impossible.

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Hmm, Israel lost to Italy in all friendlies before. How is that we won here and put 5 goals out of 20 shots? And I think we'll be thrashed by Swedes and Turks, no matter what SIM does!!! We have not ready yet (to play at that level). I hope that will change sometime.

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emerald7: Most likely our shooters were more successful than Italian ones or their keeper got tired, or both of them - that's probably why we scored 5 times.
I think only time will tell if we are ready to compete with MZ's best teams. Besides, I'd expect you to be more patient, as Rome wasn't built in one day.
Honestly, a goal difference doesn't matter much, because losing a single game means we are out of the final round anyway. In any case, we certainly will be a much better team few seasons down the road. Best Regards,

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Last two game we played Turkey and Sweden and as expected lost to both of them and Israel missed final rounds once again. On a positive side, I think we did well in this championship and earned a decent 4th place among very good teams. That may eventually help us to gain a more higher position in a next season's qualification. Taking small steps forward, I 'm sure we're going in the right direction. Best Regards,

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Still undecided if I'll be running this season, probably only in a next one. In a meantime, I'm more than interested in NCA position, so I'm open to any propositions about it.

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NC voting 2010:
Dear Israeli member, it's of great importance to express your opinion by your vote and not being so inert, like it was in the last year’s voting. I hope you will make a right choice and vote for a proven candidate to prevent from local amateurs and hackers abroad, taking control of Israeli NT and demolish all our achievements at once.
It seems like a last season was 'another brick in the wall', as our development is definitely going in the right direction. And though we didn't get any seeable results, it's not so bad being a steady third tier team, considering there is an obvious lack of quality players and active users in Israel. We still need more hockey managers that are actually interested in the game. As you know, it usually takes time to build a winner and I believe I have what it takes to advance to the next level. Vote for 'semych' as your national coach. Thanks in advance for your support.

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I voted for semych as I think his experience, understanding of the game, club's achievements and patience with a NT make him the automatic choice, at least for now.

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Thanks, emerald7. Looks like one of our new NCAs became inactive, so if there is no other suitable experienced candidate around, I can definitely consider you as his replacement after elections are over.

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FYI, groups were drawn today:

U21 European Championship 2010 (8/3/2010)

1. U21 Bosnia And Hercegovina
2. U21 Finland
3. U21 Israel
4. U21 Liechtenstein
5. U21 Portugal
6. U21 Turkey

World Cup 2010 – qualification (2010-09-28)

1. Czech Republic
2. Israel
3. Kazakhstan
4. Latvia
5. Nigeria
6. Portugal

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I'd say our chances to pass by a U21qualification round are quite slim. We have three significantly better teams ahead of us, one team much like ours and a clear outsider here. If we finish at 4th place this may count as a successful campaign, right? As regards to World Cup, I can't see we can challenge neither of the Big three European teams. Sad but true!

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@emerald7: That may well be true, but it doesn't have to be. Just to remind you that only a couple of months ago in latest European Championship, against heavy odds we beat up Italy (5:1). Besides, usually a difference between most U21 teams is not so huge, and there is a SIM factor there as well. As for the World Cup, I'd say not much discussion for this round, Czech Republic, Latvia and Portugal are all clear favorites out of our Group. I hope that things will work out with our team though.

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I hope too.

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NC voting 2011:
Dear Israeli member, I'd like to remind you that it's of great importance to express your opinion by your vote. I hope you will make a right choice and vote for the proven candidate to keep our NT progressing. We deserved a better role in MZ Community!

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I think I'm not ready yet for the NC run, not this year. Besides, I'm quite sure that current NC semych is the best candidate for the job here in Israel and a team of assistants is settled as well. So, why to change?

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I think there was a very good performance for us in U21 World Cup, despite the fact we didn't qualify again. Beating Estonia and Scotland was quite an achievement, but we played a very decent game against Hungary as well. We've been totally outshooted by Hungary and Estonia, but we got a stellar performance from our future star goalie Itach. But what one star player can do if he's surrounded by a subpar team? We need more efforts from the whole team to get to knockout stages.

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We did well considering all the tools we had this time. And I'm not sure Israel was such a bad team, we lost 2:5 and 1:2 to stronger teams like Russia and Hungary, and won Estonia and Scotland with a result of 3:2 and 7:0 respectively. According to statistics, our first two lines were pretty decent. However, to succeed at this level we should have more quality players and, of course active managers around. One or two serious guys for a few consecutive seasons will be enough to elevate our U21 play level in a significant way.

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I agree with you, semych. I'm sure you did the best job with all the tools you had. It's just kinda painful to watch our team every season make the best effort and come out empty. I guess we do need more managers, there is no other possibilities to succeed.

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An expected loss for Israel in our first European Championship group game against mighty Swedes(1:6), our next and very decisive opponent will be Hungary (away) on Tuesday. Let's hope for getting points in Budapest.

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Yes, Sweden is too much for us, as is Hungary at least for now. But I liked how we played against a favorite.

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However, we were lucky enough to manage an unexpected away win against Hungary(2:1) that, to the best of my knowledge, is our biggest achievement in European Championship so far. I'll make all needed adjustments to our rosters to be ready to the most important game against Lithuania. Don't get it wrong, they are strong enough and I rate them much higher than No.33 in National Ranking.

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Okay, we almost did it. Out-shooting Lithuania (16-10) didn't help much, as we lost 0:1 in a quite even match, allowing team Hungary to grab the second available spot on a better goal difference. On a positive side, I think that's the first time we were so close to our objectives and hopefully more will come soon.

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Obviously we needed only one goal to qualify to European Championship. Such a pity! But look at the glass half full, we played our cards well and we made our presence well known. That's quite an achievement for a non-hockey country.

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@emerald7
You're right, it is an achievement for us. However, until I'm unable to assemble fully competitive four lines as it should be, it's unlikely we can even get out of the qualification group in any sort of tournament. Probably you and other active managers around should bring some friends into the game to improve the situation.

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It's time for a National coach voting again.
Actually I think Diego, Dror and me have got some decent results recently. However, if some users do not feel I've done a good enough job as a NC, then definitely they can vote for someone else. In such a case, I'd like to offer my services as a NCA to whoever is elected.
My only hope is that members of the community will make a right choice and vote for the experienced and established candidate preventing some amateurs to take control of Israeli National Team.

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Who's running for NC this time? I'm definetily not ready yet, but I'll gladly accept a NCA position to help in scouting and more

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Dear Israeli member,
It's time for a National coach voting again.
IMO, you can't build a house without the proper foundation.
So I hope you will make a right choice and vote for the proven candidate to keep our National Team progressing in the right way. If it would be me again, I can assure you to make my best efforts to keep the current pace of our development as a team, and one to be reckoned with in World Cups. My experience is:
Winning our Top division 10 times, and 3 National Cups, and 3 times Israeli National coach.
/semych, The Middle Line

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I did not vote because I am a new member, but I support it on semych. He has the greatest merit. I want to help Nationals with valuable players (for now U21). I do not know if I have a chance to be NCA .... but I would be honored if I would propose.

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Well, it appears patience is running thin, so in order to avoid any confusion over the next few days, I will consider four managers with more or less similar experience to become an NCA. Since all candidates are decent ones, I suggest you to post here (or in my GB) and explain in brief why you are a good fit for the job. I'll look at it and take on merit. Please note that willingness to help in scouting is a must.

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FYI, groups were drawn today:

U21 World Cup 2012 - qualification (5/3/2012)
1. U21 Colombia
2. U21 Iran
3. U21 Israel
4. U21 Kyrgyzstan
5. U21 Latvia
6. U21 Scotland

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Surprisingly, all the teams in our U21 group are active ones, so the race is wide open. At least, four teams will fight for the two spots and among them, we have some chances here and there, but advancing to the next stage seems to be very unlikely this year.

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Of the three, it would appear Latvia is the most likely candidate to advance.
Scotland did very well last year, so our mission seems to be very tough, but not unrealistic one. Usually a difference between most U21 teams is not so huge, and there is a SIM factor there as well, so no result seems impossible.
But for the time being, I tend to agree, this season is a brick in the wall that is still being built.

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Sorry to but in semych but as you know, I was previous Scotland NC and was just reading your thread. You talk about the SIM factor playing a major part and I TOTALLY AGREE with you. Scotland last term beat Germany (Seniors) 5-2 but then we lost to Macedonia who are ranked 62?? I could believe it!! RANDOM RESULTS, I call it!! lol

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@downeseymc:
I think virtually anything is possible but it seems clear to me you cannot go far with a roster of 18-19 years old. Any powerhouse, fulled with 20 years old players will eventually beat you. Probably for a smaller nations like we are, it'd take a dozen of properly developed players from 3-5 active managers to go all the way.
 
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