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What is the rule for assigning youth players to teams?

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[FCP_DF]
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Hi,

Honestly, the thing that is almost making me give up of the game is that I'm tired to receive mostly weak and rubish young players.

It can't be random. Because if it is I should receive also some very good / extraordinary players, it never happenned. Sometimes, one or other a little bit acceptable.

I always bet a lot in formation and trainning camps, for what?

By the other hand I'm also very tired to see on the market those that I don't get coming from countries like Argentina , Sweden, Poland, Turkey, Romania, Brazil, betwen others but are these that usually on top. Where's the fun?

They want we play with wood against swords?

Who have a good answer for this? I started in 2007 on football and on hockey in 2013, always full academy, always changing players, so it's to much rubish... incoming...

Regards,
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Re: What is the rule for assigning youth players to teams?

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If we assume that every team in MZ has the same probability of getting an extraordinary youth player, then of course countries with the highest number of teams will have more of these players collectivelly. And since this probability simply has to be low in general, it is possible that some teams might not be able to get these extraordinary youths sometimes even in long periods of time. That's how I would explain it (also to myself - I don't remember ever developing highest quality players).

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I've had 1 gk upto now from my youth team. 7 stam, 7 PI, 10 keep, 7 Aerial.


I did let a good CB go however,but he saved my team in the eqrly days from bankruptcy Other than that all pants in last 18 months.

However I've got 3 potential players from my recent recruits. Usually something ruins them of course.

Fingers crossed.

Could it be down to how you train then? Do you release 3/1 players. Are you assuming only decent players will come from 4/2/4 players?

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The rule is: import random

Brazilians, swedes, argentinians etc. receive the same amount of crap as you, believe it or not, amigo.

Over the last 3 seasons I had only three HP4stars players. One of them was an utter disaster and is already looking for a new job.

On the other hand, I know examples of four HP4stars potential star players on the same batch. It can happen.

Everyone is dealing with bad players, don't worry. The fact that you see lots of brazilian or swedish superstars in the market is just a matter of quantity. We have more superstars but we have more shitty players that end up getting fired too.

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My point being... most of the players I receive are rubbish too, just like you. Being brazilian never helped me at all :D

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Even if we are talking about a game, I think it's kinda realistic and healthy for the whole game that out of the ordinary players are very limited compared to the large number of rubbish players discovered by the youth academy.

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I agree

I have 5 GK from my academy in my team, between 18-26 y.o.
3-4 stars in keeping.
BUT all of them have 1-2 stars in stamina and aerial passing.

Can't believe that it's random

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[FCP_DF]
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Hi,

Thank you guys for coming here charing your opinion because of course I'm not alone on this, of course around the world there are a lot of people on the same boat.

But very important:

1. Never confuse QUANTITY with QUALITY.
( I'm talking about quality. It's logic that you can receive more quality if you receive more quantity - this kind of answer it's the fast , coherent but don't explains everything.)

- How to explain passing 45 seasons without receiving one of those with quality? (The best decent I received ever was 3 seasons ago and he's now with 4 9's, is good, yes, very far from that what I'm talking about and never will reach even one 10.
- So, I have more than 15 years on this and there are a lot of people even coming recently and got that very good / extraordinary players, what a luck, hein? ( In this case is the luck ruling, not the random thing ? )
- Concluding, to have quality you don't need quality , so there 's something wrong here with this random / lucky assigning.

2. Reward your work as manager
( When you dedicate to much hours to the game and to the youth academy you want to see results of your work.)

- I check the market EVERYDAY. Currently, I see in the market young very good players since 19/20 years being selled by millions and some regular and good players no one want.

- The management of the youth players have improved all this years, specially and lately with the scout/stars thing but doesn't mean that all the work is done.

- There' is big difference when you can built something based on the most important thing of the game that are the players and passing all the time cleaning rubbish.

My participation is already long so I just want to say that I'm one of the youth leagues founders on football, I always participate but this season I decided do not participate and this new U21 league I also will not participate on football.

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Following my question I want to contribute with 2 suggestions:

1. Create the 5***** player HP
- This kind of player must be very rare, 2 ou 3 each 10 seasons, for example, but LP stars minimum *** - Definitely good, very good or extraordinary
- Each team should have the opportunity to receive this player
- Today we have some 4**** players that are completely scrap, so, yeah , you receive a few 4**** players and sometimes your desire is to put directly on trash.

2. To distribute with more equality the 3HP*** and 4HP**** with quality by the teams ( finish with this supposed random / lucky assigning )
- First positive point is that everyone likes equality
- It will decrease the price of some players on market that really don't have the value they gave for them
- The youth competitions will be more competitive and interesting

Well, there are much more benefits than disadvantages , I think , on this process.

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Use all your youth swaps each week. it will give you more then Double your chanses to get a good one.

Learn how to train your youths even IF they Are not 4/2 players. They can still bring you loads of Money.
To get a super star you will have to be realy realy lucky. It IS less then 1 % to get at 4 HP 2 LP player. And to have it in good hp/LP IS even lower. And then you need to have some luck that the rest IS also good. Add some variance to that also then it could means you need to have thousands of youth before you get the real monster.
Also. almost all players give up IF 1 important attributet maxes. They Gould still be an exceptionell player om another position but since you check the players full potential you wont know

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swaan1 wrote:
Use all your youth swaps each week. it will give you more then Double your chanses to get a good one.

Learn how to train your youths even IF they Are not 4/2 players. They can still bring you loads of Money.
To get a super star you will have to be realy realy lucky. It IS less then 1 % to get at 4 HP 2 LP player. And to have it in good hp/LP IS even lower. And then you need to have some luck that the rest IS also good. Add some variance to that also then it could means you need to have thousands of youth before you get the real monster.
Also. almost all players give up IF 1 important attributet maxes. They Gould still be an exceptionell player om another position but since you check the players full potential you wont know



So, do you suppose I don't know nothing about what you wrote?

Perhaps, you don't understood my post since the beginning.

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Swap players is what I did more all this years, I' m tired to swap bad players for more bad players.

I' m here since 2007. No breaks.

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apolo72 wrote:
So, do you suppose I don't know nothing about what you wrote?

Perhaps, you don't understood my post since the beginning.


apolo72 wrote:

1. Never confuse QUANTITY with QUALITY.
( I'm talking about quality. It's logic that you can receive more quality if you receive more quantity - this kind of answer it's the fast , coherent but don't explains everything.)

- How to explain passing 45 seasons without receiving one of those with quality? (The best decent I received ever was 3 seasons ago and he's now with 4 9's, is good, yes, very far from that what I'm talking about and never will reach even one 10.
- So, I have more than 15 years on this and there are a lot of people even coming recently and got that very good / extraordinary players, what a luck, hein? ( In this case is the luck ruling, not the random thing ? )
- Concluding, to have quality you don't need quality , so there 's something wrong here with this random / lucky assigning.


I am pretty sure i answer on your questions you had in your post.

You want more good players, And i gave you tips on how to get the biggest chance to get them, And that you should try to not give up on a player with potential even if he did not work on your initial position you train him for. (alot of mangers does this and you can make bank on transfer by seeing and REtrain a "failed player" for another position).
I also explained that the chance to get a SUPERSTAR player is very low based on the way the game generate players and even with loads of time spent does not gurantee that you get one. Even if you been here since we got the report you have still not yet reached the "now i SHOULD have gotten a superstar player if i pick all the hp4 i get".
So why do you try to be rude to me when i try to help you ?

I can also add that to give better players in average to all managers as you suggest is one of the worst ideas i ever heard. Will make the transfer even more broken and if you think your team will benefit from it then you should be one of the top 1% of the riches players since it will there were all the good players land and all team will have 9+ on all attributes will be pretty boring to coinflip all games in the top leagues.

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Some people are lucky, but there is no bias towards any country.

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And even lucky people have to deal with bang average players all the time. Those are never mentioned.
 
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