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Where would you train this player?

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I first thought of him as a midfielder but reading about the importance of aerial passing I was having second thoughts given it's one of his LPs.

I am now thinking of putting him as a striker or a defender but it would be a risk as none are HP skills.
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For wing play I would try to train this guy as support striker at first and then check his header if he could even be target man. He cant perform in midfield or defender for this style of play cos of aerial passing.

For short passing style he could make it as midfielder as importance of aerial passing in this style of play is lower. But I wouldn't train this guy as defender on this style of play as defenders make clearing with aerial passing so defenders in general should have 8+ in aerial passing.

What you should consider is to check how far his aerial passing will go. If it reaches 7 he would probably be okey in midfield for wing play aswell. If his LP is 2* on aerial passing he has chances to reach this.

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Why didn't you train shooting or tackling before passing?

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You gotta take the risk. That's how legends are born.

He could be a good midfielder on a short passing tactic as pointed by jere, even with bad maxings on shooting and tackling.

And I'd try shooting first because of his short passing. 9 shooting would turn him into a class striker. 9 tackling, however, won't make him very special due to his low potential on aerial passing.

Low potential on aerial passing and wing play don't go together very well, but if you're lucky and he gets to 7 on aerial passing it's not an utter disaster in my opinion. But I wouldn't choose this path.

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Thank you for your valid feedback. I put him on Speed, Stamina, Passing as I thought that would make him an excellent midfielder. Which is true for a short-passing game but at the time I was not aware of the importance of Aerial Passing.

He has a 2 star LP in Aerial Passing which I guess could take him up to 7@ at most. So I will move him out into a striker for the reasons you mention douglaskampl.

All in on Shooting!

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Aerial Passing is important for defenders playing short passing? I've not read any advice anywhere around this? Obv good to support wing play but not for defenders surely?

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Yeah even on short passing play style defenders make aerial passes. I would say it's highly variable through how down the pitch they gain the control of the ball so the numbers varies. But lets say it's close to 50/50 most of the time even tho I would like to argue that aerial passing is more common than grounded ones hence I prefer more aerial passing than passing on my defenders as I play short passing style. But the completed passes isn't just about the ability of the players passing/aerial passing. There is variables like receiving players ball control ect.

We both played last game of our league with short passing style and both controlled the game having similar statistics. So we should look at the passing, aerial passing, play intelligence and experience of our players how good passers they are.

Modernians
M. Majdoch 10/12 (83%)
A. Speight - 3/8 (38%)
T. Fan ------ 3/6 (50%)

Total 16/26 (62%)

East Kontula
S. Moczkiewicz 3/3 (100%) PA9, AP8, PI8, XP8
O. Nurmi ------- 7/8 (88%) PA6, AP8, PI6, XP7
N. Grönvall ---- 9/9 (100%) PA6, AP8, PI9, XP10

Total 19/20 (95%)

Your Majdoch probably has some aerial passing compared to Speight and Fan. They missed half of their passes. Like said earlier that it's about 50/50 if they pass grounded or aerial. Maybe they missed those aerial passes?

Looked your games first half with 3D just to be about little sure about im not talking nonsense. Your defenders didn't complete a single aerial pass to your own team during that time. T.Fan gave 2, Speight 2 and Maj 1 every pass went to the oppoment. And funny thing your first goal was crossed from midfield to your striker who headed the ball into the goal. With short passing style.

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Thanks for the analysis. I think I'll need to work on that aerial.

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Yeah even on short passing play style defenders make aerial passes. I would say it's highly variable through how down the pitch they gain the control of the ball so the numbers varies. But lets say it's close to 50/50 most of the time even tho I would like to argue that aerial passing is more common than grounded ones hence I prefer more aerial passing than passing on my defenders as I play short passing style. But the completed passes isn't just about the ability of the players passing/aerial passing. There is variables like receiving players ball control ect.

We both played last game of our league with short passing style and both controlled the game having similar statistics. So we should look at the passing, aerial passing, play intelligence and experience of our players how good passers they are.

Modernians
M. Majdoch 10/12 (83%)
A. Speight - 3/8 (38%)
T. Fan ------ 3/6 (50%)

Total 16/26 (62%)

East Kontula
S. Moczkiewicz 3/3 (100%) PA9, AP8, PI8, XP8
O. Nurmi ------- 7/8 (88%) PA6, AP8, PI6, XP7
N. Grönvall ---- 9/9 (100%) PA6, AP8, PI9, XP10

Total 19/20 (95%)

Your Majdoch probably has some aerial passing compared to Speight and Fan. They missed half of their passes. Like said earlier that it's about 50/50 if they pass grounded or aerial. Maybe they missed those aerial passes?

Looked your games first half with 3D just to be about little sure about im not talking nonsense. Your defenders didn't complete a single aerial pass to your own team during that time. T.Fan gave 2, Speight 2 and Maj 1 every pass went to the oppoment. And funny thing your first goal was crossed from midfield to your striker who headed the ball into the goal. With short passing style.


Rarely any aerial passing by defenders in short passing tactic. So not necessary
 
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