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I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 11-07-2021 08:09

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I lose many morning matches in the Top League just because they are finished when I login to my account. This is not fair. Div.2 or div.3 could play morning matches, but not Top League teams. We must have time to prepare for a very difficult match. Isn't a whole day long enough or what? Too many times I've seen MZ wasting my time and effort. 👎I lose many morning matches in the Top League just because they are finished when I login to my account.
This is not fair.
Div.2 or div.3 could play morning matches, but not Top League teams.
We must have time to prepare for a very difficult match.

Isn't a whole day long enough or what?

Too many times I've seen MZ wasting my time and effort.

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Re: I hate morning matches

By viedras20 - 11-07-2021 10:35

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It's really really doubtful that your team plays any better when you are logged in vs when you are not. And to prepare, there is enough time the day before. Probably I'd try to search for some other reasons why my team is losing games, rather than blame one of the most neutral factors - match time.It's really really doubtful that your team plays any better when you are logged in vs when you are not. And to prepare, there is enough time the day before.

Probably I'd try to search for some other reasons why my team is losing games, rather than blame one of the most neutral factors - match time.

Re: I hate morning matches

By chucky06 - 11-07-2021 14:38

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I’m sorry but this seems a little ludicrous. Schedules are posted at the start of the season so you know exactly who you are playing and when. You have a lot of preparation time to set tactics and game plans for each match. The time matches are played are rotated so it’s fair to everyone as other users I’m sure are online more frequently in the mornings.

mihairo wrote:

I lose many morning matches in the Top League just because they are finished when I login to my account.
This is not fair.
Div.2 or div.3 could play morning matches, but not Top League teams.
We must have time to prepare for a very difficult match.

Isn't a whole day long enough or what?

Too many times I've seen MZ wasting my time and effort.

👎

I’m sorry but this seems a little ludicrous. Schedules are posted at the start of the season so you know exactly who you are playing and when. You have a lot of preparation time to set tactics and game plans for each match.

The time matches are played are rotated so it’s fair to everyone as other users I’m sure are online more frequently in the mornings.

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 11-07-2021 15:28

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It's a matter of introducing a wrong team in the field without realising it and lost the match 1-7. So yeah, I really doubt my top team would have played worse :)) But the point is I am a top league manager and I should have my matches played in the evening. Are there any real arguments why a div.5 team should play in the evening and the top league should play at 9 or 10 in the morning? Because I don't see any. We should have this right IMO.It's a matter of introducing a wrong team in the field without realising it and lost the match 1-7.

So yeah, I really doubt my top team would have played worse :))

But the point is I am a top league manager and I should have my matches played in the evening.

Are there any real arguments why a div.5 team should play in the evening and the top league should play at 9 or 10 in the morning?
Because I don't see any.
We should have this right IMO.

Re: I hate morning matches

By chucky06 - 11-07-2021 15:42

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President

It’s a very selfish way to look at this though. Many managers prefer their games in the mornings. It has no relevance what division you are in at all. All divisions work the same way and have matches on rotating time slots. It’s how it is and how it’s always been. Setting a tactic with the wrong team is completely your fault though and has nothing to do with time if games.

mihairo wrote:

It's a matter of introducing a wrong team in the field without realising it and lost the match 1-7.

So yeah, I really doubt my top team would have played worse :))

But the point is I am a top league manager and I should have my matches played in the evening.

Are there any real arguments why a div.5 team should play in the evening and the top league should play at 9 or 10 in the morning?
Because I don't see any.
We should have this right IMO.

It’s a very selfish way to look at this though. Many managers prefer their games in the mornings. It has no relevance what division you are in at all. All divisions work the same way and have matches on rotating time slots. It’s how it is and how it’s always been.

Setting a tactic with the wrong team is completely your fault though and has nothing to do with time if games.

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 11-07-2021 22:59

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So the argument to have a top league match in the morning is that we shouldn't prepare the match at all. In that case can somebody tell me why an official National Team match is always in the evening? It never crossed my mind that top managers are just plain selfish. They should play when nobody's watching.So the argument to have a top league match in the morning is that we shouldn't prepare the match at all.

In that case can somebody tell me why an official National Team match is always in the evening?

It never crossed my mind that top managers are just plain selfish. They should play when nobody's watching.

Re: I hate morning matches

By chucky06 - 12-07-2021 02:55

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President

They might be in the evening for you in your country but they are always in a ridiculous early Am’s time of the morning for us here in Australia. The current system is fair for everyone and already favours European nations if anything

mihairo wrote:

So the argument to have a top league match in the morning is that we shouldn't prepare the match at all.

In that case can somebody tell me why an official National Team match is always in the evening?

It never crossed my mind that top managers are just plain selfish. They should play when nobody's watching.

They might be in the evening for you in your country but they are always in a ridiculous early Am’s time of the morning for us here in Australia. The current system is fair for everyone and already favours European nations if anything

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 12-07-2021 09:15

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Sorry mate, in RL it's the same thing. If you want to watch a Barcelona - Real Madrid game or Juventus - AC Milan or Bayern - Dortmund or a PSG game you have to look at it from Europe's point of view. And the point is that you can't prepare for an important match early in the morning (Europe's time, obviously) It's a simple matter of respect for the teams, managers and fans. And I believe that the top teams in MZ have fans, especially National Teams and Elite Cups teams. And they should be treated with respect. I have absolutely no problem with managers who like playing or preparing for the match early in the morning, but the others shouldn't be forced to do so. Also, in Australia for e.g. I believe it's the same thing for the National Top League. It's just a simple IMO, but if you look from a fair, objective and impartial point of view, you know I'm right. RL comes first, then MZ, if you like to spend half an hour or an entire hour relaxing in the evening by playing this game.Sorry mate, in RL it's the same thing.
If you want to watch a Barcelona - Real Madrid game or Juventus - AC Milan or Bayern - Dortmund or a PSG game you have to look at it from Europe's point of view.

And the point is that you can't prepare for an important match early in the morning (Europe's time, obviously)

It's a simple matter of respect for the teams, managers and fans.

And I believe that the top teams in MZ have fans, especially National Teams and Elite Cups teams.

And they should be treated with respect.

I have absolutely no problem with managers who like playing or preparing for the match early in the morning, but the others shouldn't be forced to do so.

Also, in Australia for e.g. I believe it's the same thing for the National Top League.

It's just a simple IMO, but if you look from a fair, objective and impartial point of view, you know I'm right.

RL comes first, then MZ, if you like to spend half an hour or an entire hour relaxing in the evening by playing this game.

Re: I hate morning matches

By chucky06 - 12-07-2021 09:36

[AUSNZ]
President

A fair and impartial way is exactly how it is. It’s a rotating time slot so everyone gets the same treatment and knows well in advance when the matches are. I think you’re kidding yourself if you think you have fans and people that want to watch your match live. Maybe a few users from your country in the same league to see how they are going to be on the ladder after the games but that’s all.

mihairo wrote:

It's just a simple IMO, but if you look from a fair, objective and impartial point of view, you know I'm right.

A fair and impartial way is exactly how it is. It’s a rotating time slot so everyone gets the same treatment and knows well in advance when the matches are.

I think you’re kidding yourself if you think you have fans and people that want to watch your match live. Maybe a few users from your country in the same league to see how they are going to be on the ladder after the games but that’s all.

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 12-07-2021 11:42

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Wtf... Why must it always be personal with you people and then start offedning others? Is that your personal or your FA opinion? You don't know, You don't make the smallest gesture to try to understand and You don't even bother to ask what's it about. Because, frankly, you don't help the thread neither as user, nore as FA. Or, lately, FAs are here to annoy and offend users?Wtf...

Why must it always be personal with you people and then start offedning others?

Is that your personal or your FA opinion?

You don't know, You don't make the smallest gesture to try to understand and You don't even bother to ask what's it about.

Because, frankly, you don't help the thread neither as user, nore as FA.

Or, lately, FAs are here to annoy and offend users?

Odp: I hate morning matches

By ptl99 - 12-07-2021 11:52

Why can't you just prepare your stuff the evening before the match?Why can't you just prepare your stuff the evening before the match?

Re: I hate morning matches

By chucky06 - 12-07-2021 12:03

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President

I’m sorry if you’ve taken offence to that response it wasn’t intended. I was just stating that the majority of people aren’t interested in Top League matches of any country. World League top division probably has a little bit of interest but nothing like you ate talking about. Nothing is personal at all. Just stated majority of people don’t watch games that don’t interest them. I do understand your point but you’re saying it would be “fair” your way. That’s actually totally incorrect and it’s fair the way it is. I respond to threads because crew don’t and without my response you’ll end up talking to nobody most of the time.

mihairo wrote:

Wtf...

Why must it always be personal with you people and then start offedning others?

Is that your personal or your FA opinion?

You don't know, You don't make the smallest gesture to try to understand and You don't even bother to ask what's it about.

Because, frankly, you don't help the thread neither as user, nore as FA.

Or, lately, FAs are here to annoy and offend users?

I’m sorry if you’ve taken offence to that response it wasn’t intended. I was just stating that the majority of people aren’t interested in Top League matches of any country. World League top division probably has a little bit of interest but nothing like you ate talking about.

Nothing is personal at all. Just stated majority of people don’t watch games that don’t interest them. I do understand your point but you’re saying it would be “fair” your way. That’s actually totally incorrect and it’s fair the way it is.

I respond to threads because crew don’t and without my response you’ll end up talking to nobody most of the time.

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 12-07-2021 12:10

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Thank you for the question. It's not the only match, you know. There are days when we have more than 10 matches in a few hours. We still have official cups and other evening matches. The point is. Every championship match is on Wednesday and Sunday. Shouldn't we enjoy them? It's the ONLY match that day. Yes, the only way to prepare for a morning championship match would be the day before. But is it necessary? I mean, isn't a whole day long enough to prepare for that one game? Yesterday was Sunday. Why must I be conditioned to prepare since Saturday evening for a Sunday morning match? Why not for e.g. have an official time for these kind of matches, just like in the Elite Cups? Is is fair to have a chaotic schedule?Thank you for the question.

It's not the only match, you know. There are days when we have more than 10 matches in a few hours. We still have official cups and other evening matches.

The point is.
Every championship match is on Wednesday and Sunday.
Shouldn't we enjoy them? It's the ONLY match that day.

Yes, the only way to prepare for a morning championship match would be the day before.
But is it necessary?

I mean, isn't a whole day long enough to prepare for that one game?
Yesterday was Sunday. Why must I be conditioned to prepare since Saturday evening for a Sunday morning match?

Why not for e.g. have an official time for these kind of matches, just like in the Elite Cups? Is is fair to have a chaotic schedule?

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 12-07-2021 12:15

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@chucky06 - Mate, you really don't have to do that. Let people talk and guide them only if necessary, even let them end up talking to nobody most of the time, but help them express themselves if they have trouble writing their thoughts. Do no not try to impose your personal opinions as FA guidelines. This is the worst thing you might end up doing. Let or help people talk, my friend.@chucky06 - Mate, you really don't have to do that.
Let people talk and guide them only if necessary, even let them end up talking to nobody most of the time, but help them express themselves if they have trouble writing their thoughts.
Do no not try to impose your personal opinions as FA guidelines. This is the worst thing you might end up doing.

Let or help people talk, my friend.

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 12-07-2021 12:58

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No worries mate. What if it's the other way around? What if the users can't actually follow a certain competition just because it has a chaotic schedule?No worries mate.

chucky06 wrote:

[...]the majority of people aren’t interested in Top League matches of any country. World League top division probably has a little bit of interest but nothing like you are talking about.

[...]majority of people don’t watch games that don’t interest them. I do understand your point but you’re saying it would be “fair” your way. That’s actually totally incorrect and it’s fair the way it is.

What if it's the other way around?

What if the users can't actually follow a certain competition just because it has a chaotic schedule?

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 16-07-2021 07:20

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I hope we don't level this thread dead and buried as well... Without any other comments, my suggestion is this: All the league matches should start on the same time: For e.g. Top League at 7 PM Div. 1 at 5 PMI hope we don't level this thread dead and buried as well...

Without any other comments, my suggestion is this:

All the league matches should start on the same time:
For e.g.

Top League at 7 PM
Div. 1 at 5 PM

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 16-07-2021 07:25

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Sorry, pressed Send by mistake. So, Top League at 7 PM (local time) Div.1 at 5 PM Div.2 at 3 PM Div.3 at 1 PM Div.4 at 11 AM Div.5-7 at 9 AM Or something similar, like Top League- 7 PM Div.1- 6 PM Div.2- 5 PM Div.3- 4 PM Div.4- 3 PM Div.3- 2 PM Div.4- 1 PM Div.5- 12 AM Div.6- 11 AM Div.7- 10 AM Div.8- 9 AM (I don't know if it's the case, but who knows)Sorry, pressed Send by mistake.

So,

Top League at 7 PM (local time)
Div.1 at 5 PM
Div.2 at 3 PM
Div.3 at 1 PM
Div.4 at 11 AM
Div.5-7 at 9 AM

Or something similar, like

Top League- 7 PM
Div.1- 6 PM
Div.2- 5 PM
Div.3- 4 PM
Div.4- 3 PM
Div.3- 2 PM
Div.4- 1 PM
Div.5- 12 AM
Div.6- 11 AM
Div.7- 10 AM
Div.8- 9 AM (I don't know if it's the case, but who knows)

Re: I hate morning matches

By mihairo - 16-07-2021 07:28

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OMG, another errata :)) I'm so sorry, it's 8 AM here, to early to write for me 🙈 Top L.- 7 PM Div.1- 6 PM Div.2- 5 PM Div.3- 4 PM Div.4- 3 PM Div.5- 2 PM Div.6- 1 PM Div.7- 12 AM Div.8- 11 AM Div.9- 10 AM That should do it. I think it's alright now 🤭😆

mihairo wrote:

Sorry, pressed Send by mistake.

So,

Top League at 7 PM (local time)
Div.1 at 5 PM
Div.2 at 3 PM
Div.3 at 1 PM
Div.4 at 11 AM
Div.5-7 at 9 AM

Or something similar, like

Top League- 7 PM
Div.1- 6 PM
Div.2- 5 PM
Div.3- 4 PM
Div.4- 3 PM
Div.3- 2 PM
Div.4- 1 PM
Div.5- 12 AM
Div.6- 11 AM
Div.7- 10 AM
Div.8- 9 AM (I don't know if it's the case, but who knows)

OMG, another errata :))
I'm so sorry, it's 8 AM here, to early to write for me 🙈

Top L.- 7 PM
Div.1- 6 PM
Div.2- 5 PM
Div.3- 4 PM
Div.4- 3 PM
Div.5- 2 PM
Div.6- 1 PM
Div.7- 12 AM
Div.8- 11 AM
Div.9- 10 AM

That should do it. I think it's alright now 🤭😆

 

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