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Many SOT, yet no goals

By averachardcore - 16-04-2021 07:42

My 3 latest league games show 20-30 shots on target each, however only 1 goal on aggregate. Since there were 3 different keepers, I doubt they were all having a very good day. So what am I missing? Thank you!My 3 latest league games show 20-30 shots on target each, however only 1 goal on aggregate.

Since there were 3 different keepers, I doubt they were all having a very good day.

So what am I missing?

Thank you!

 

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Отн: Many SOT, yet no goals

By naskoch (LA) - 17-04-2021 10:39

[BUL]

You miss the main - there si no logic at MZ, and try another tactick, yours its not very good

averachardcore wrote:

My 3 latest league games show 20-30 shots on target each, however only 1 goal on aggregate.

Since there were 3 different keepers, I doubt they were all having a very good day.

So what am I missing?

Thank you!

You miss the main - there si no logic at MZ, and try another tactick, yours its not very good

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By horas (FA) - 20-04-2021 14:01

[LT-Cm]
President

I remember I had the same situation, that from 60-70 SOT I have had only 1 goal. Later on everything became again normal ;)

averachardcore wrote:

My 3 latest league games show 20-30 shots on target each, however only 1 goal on aggregate.

Since there were 3 different keepers, I doubt they were all having a very good day.

So what am I missing?

Thank you!

I remember I had the same situation, that from 60-70 SOT I have had only 1 goal.

Later on everything became again normal ;)

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Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By milsu - 23-04-2021 19:57

[Ex Yu]

When I just started playing this, I was scoring 12-14 goals against youth teams regularly. But now, four months later, when my team is even better, I can hardly score 7-8 goals against a youth team. I wonder was something changed in the simulation? Today's record, 2-0 against a youth team of mostly 16 and 17 year olds, with 30 shots, but my striker with 10 balls for shooting can't beat a 17-year old goalkeeper. Something's weird there. Maybe because I've just bought a new player, but it would make sense if the new player performed poorly because he's new, but I can't imagine how a new defender who is sitting on the bench can affect strikers to miss shots.When I just started playing this, I was scoring 12-14 goals against youth teams regularly. But now, four months later, when my team is even better, I can hardly score 7-8 goals against a youth team. I wonder was something changed in the simulation?

Today's record, 2-0 against a youth team of mostly 16 and 17 year olds, with 30 shots, but my striker with 10 balls for shooting can't beat a 17-year old goalkeeper. Something's weird there.

Maybe because I've just bought a new player, but it would make sense if the new player performed poorly because he's new, but I can't imagine how a new defender who is sitting on the bench can affect strikers to miss shots.

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By averachardcore - 24-04-2021 07:57

It feels like the Play Intelligence weights more than I thought, especially in the context of a striker. I just got one with almost the same skills as the former one but with better intelligence and I can definitely see a difference. The SOT - Goals ratio improved. It also shows when watching the 2d/3d match. The striker no longer aligns with the opponent keeper before shooting. He actually dribbles him more often.It feels like the Play Intelligence weights more than I thought, especially in the context of a striker.

I just got one with almost the same skills as the former one but with better intelligence and I can definitely see a difference. The SOT - Goals ratio improved.

It also shows when watching the 2d/3d match. The striker no longer aligns with the opponent keeper before shooting. He actually dribbles him more often.

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By averachardcore - 24-04-2021 08:00

Yet ofc he will still need the speed for doing that, stamina to be able to do it all game long and maybe bonus tackling to regain the ball while advanced.Yet ofc he will still need the speed for doing that, stamina to be able to do it all game long and maybe bonus tackling to regain the ball while advanced.

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By milsu - 24-04-2021 09:45

[Ex Yu]

What does it all matter, his balls didn't decrease, and he is now performing worse than he did four months ago. Anyways, 10 balls for shooting, 6 for play intelligence, 9 for speed, 7 for experience, and 9 for form, should be pretty good for a 24-yo striker against a 17-yo keeper.What does it all matter, his balls didn't decrease, and he is now performing worse than he did four months ago.

Anyways, 10 balls for shooting, 6 for play intelligence, 9 for speed, 7 for experience, and 9 for form, should be pretty good for a 24-yo striker against a 17-yo keeper.

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By horas (FA) - 24-04-2021 11:31

[LT-Cm]
President

I think your skills are alright, be patient ;)

milsu wrote:

What does it all matter, his balls didn't decrease, and he is now performing worse than he did four months ago.

Anyways, 10 balls for shooting, 6 for play intelligence, 9 for speed, 7 for experience, and 9 for form, should be pretty good for a 24-yo striker against a 17-yo keeper.

I think your skills are alright, be patient ;)

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By horas (FA) - 24-04-2021 11:32

[LT-Cm]
President

Experience is very important I would compare it to PI if he is 24 i quess he has 7-8 exp.

milsu wrote:

What does it all matter, his balls didn't decrease, and he is now performing worse than he did four months ago.

Anyways, 10 balls for shooting, 6 for play intelligence, 9 for speed, 7 for experience, and 9 for form, should be pretty good for a 24-yo striker against a 17-yo keeper.

Experience is very important I would compare it to PI if he is 24 i quess he has 7-8 exp.

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By averachardcore - 24-04-2021 11:45

I suppose it's Zlatan you're talking about. Maybe if you push him a bit center-forward while the other one on the side. You're gonna figure it out eventually. Cheers!I suppose it's Zlatan you're talking about. Maybe if you push him a bit center-forward while the other one on the side.

You're gonna figure it out eventually.
Cheers!

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By mzplach - 24-04-2021 22:51

[RWRK]

I actually think people underrate in general PI. PI is the most important trainable skill after the primaries for striker i would even say after 7 PI -> one ball PI feels like +3 balls in primary. Noticed it when i was starting was confused how my 7 speed 6 shot 7 ball control striker scored more than my stirker with 8/9/9 no matter how i placed them. difference was 9 vs 6 PI. Also note that that SoT are only expression of how the tacticarchetypes work against -> playstyle some tend to generate a lot of shot but few goals vs other playstyles. Many shot are also more or less in a 1vs1 with the goal keeper or 1vs2 dribbling with SoT vs keeper and one defender. @milsu the skill check keeping vs shooting isn t an isolated one. There are more skill checks and probably other variables calcutlated in.I actually think people underrate in general PI. PI is the most important trainable skill after the primaries for striker i would even say after 7 PI -> one ball PI feels like +3 balls in primary.

Noticed it when i was starting was confused how my 7 speed 6 shot 7 ball control striker scored more than my stirker with 8/9/9 no matter how i placed them. difference was 9 vs 6 PI. Also note that that SoT are only expression of how the tacticarchetypes work against -> playstyle some tend to generate a lot of shot but few goals vs other playstyles. Many shot are also more or less in a 1vs1 with the goal keeper or 1vs2 dribbling with SoT vs keeper and one defender.

@milsu the skill check keeping vs shooting isn t an isolated one. There are more skill checks and probably other variables calcutlated in.

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By mzplach - 24-04-2021 22:54

[RWRK]

Also if i look at your statistic for last 4 league matches you only have 20/12/16/14 shots on target so not even close to 20-30 average SoT. or are we talking about another leagueAlso if i look at your statistic for last 4 league matches you only have 20/12/16/14 shots on target so not even close to 20-30 average SoT. or are we talking about another league

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By milsu - 24-04-2021 23:18

[Ex Yu]

Man, your statistics are wrong, lol, I don't know where you found them. My last league match, only 5 SoT, but 3 goals, and I won 3-2 against a team with much better players than mine. https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=1218614523&tid=1400574 But last friendly against a youth team, 24 SoT and only 2 goals. https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=1224643549&tid=1400574 Makes no sense. I am aware that a result can vary, but this is kind of too much. So I wonder, did my team play worse because I bought a new player? I have decided to put him on the bench for 2-3 weeks, because I heard that new player brings worse play for some time, but it seems that he affects the team play anyways no matter if he's sitting on the bench and not playing.

mzplach wrote:

Also if i look at your statistic for last 4 league matches you only have 20/12/16/14 shots on target so not even close to 20-30 average SoT. or are we talking about another league

Man, your statistics are wrong, lol, I don't know where you found them.

My last league match, only 5 SoT, but 3 goals, and I won 3-2 against a team with much better players than mine.

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=1218614523&tid=1400574

But last friendly against a youth team, 24 SoT and only 2 goals.

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=1224643549&tid=1400574

Makes no sense. I am aware that a result can vary, but this is kind of too much. So I wonder, did my team play worse because I bought a new player? I have decided to put him on the bench for 2-3 weeks, because I heard that new player brings worse play for some time, but it seems that he affects the team play anyways no matter if he's sitting on the bench and not playing.

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By averachardcore - 25-04-2021 09:08

I had a lot to benefit from immediately putting my recently bought striker (Ovidio Vellito) in the main squad. Got him on the 18th of April and my Goals/SoT ratio improved substantially. ... and btw, he is the tip of the spear.I had a lot to benefit from immediately putting my recently bought striker (Ovidio Vellito) in the main squad.

Got him on the 18th of April and my Goals/SoT ratio improved substantially.

... and btw, he is the tip of the spear.

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By mzplach - 25-04-2021 10:53

[RWRK]

milsu i was just talking to you in the last section. the Sot where about averachardcore league games ebcause eh said 20-30 sotmilsu i was just talking to you in the last section.

the Sot where about averachardcore league games ebcause eh said 20-30 sot

Re: Many SOT, yet no goals

By milsu - 25-04-2021 15:06

[Ex Yu]

Ah, ok.Ah, ok.

 

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