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make it at least every team to have one 4 star players from 23 youth
I ordered 23 youth, replace total 11 of them, then fire 20 and took 20 more
total
54 trys
result
ZERO 4 star players
16 3 star players(surrently 7) all the rest is crap
return to the game after 6 years brea, and really think to quit again this time forever, for small countries like mine with transsfers 1 page you must have some own stars because nobody sell, so tell me a reason to play as cant have good players, from the current youths looking the scout reports only one can play at the first team after 5-6 seasons, but is 3 srars so I`m waiting that he will maxed az 9 keeping, this with 54 youth trys and nothing to leave is an insult for every manager
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[AUS]
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I’m going to interpret this as your suggestion now to make sure all team have at least one 4 star youth. Otherwise I would lock the thread as duplicate posting isn’t allow in the forum and this post is very similar to your other post.

I think it a fair suggestion to be guaranteed at least one 4 star potential youth if you pay to use “youth customisation” and get a a minimum about (maybe 16).

I think you’re looking into a little too much though as 3 star potential players can still have skills go to 10 balls and there’s lots of class 3 star players out there.

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the other my post is a question how this works for the teams - totaly random or there are any % of the payers coming
this is suggestion at suggestion tab
where I break the rules can you tell me

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You have two posts called the exact same thing talking about the same issue is what I was referring too. One can be a suggestion and one a question, that’s fine and why they were allowed and kept open :)

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Naskoch, maybe one of the players I am selling is what you are looking for.

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I would second the view that there should be a 4 HP player included in the youth customization option. I recently used this and was surprised by the number of low quality (2/2 or 2/1) players which I received. I had one player who had good HP in Keeping but looked like he had never trained a day in that skill.

This would be a second part of the suggestion, players from the youth customization would be trained in skills which are in their HP if one of those skills is a major skill.

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goalsaurus wrote:
Naskoch, maybe one of the players I am selling is what you are looking for.

Always wondered why people not just fire players like this, if I had a place for foreign players shoul buy it to fire it, already did that with 7-8 players not to flood the market

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tree_amigos wrote:
I would second the view that there should be a 4 HP player included in the youth customization option. I recently used this and was surprised by the number of low quality (2/2 or 2/1) players which I received. I had one player who had good HP in Keeping but looked like he had never trained a day in that skill.

This would be a second part of the suggestion, players from the youth customization would be trained in skills which are in their HP if one of those skills is a major skill.

Agree with that but not only for the youth customisation
Must be more balanced not si random
I have a friend that have four 4HP and 10 3HP youts from 23
Mine are 6 3HP from 23
For long term for building stong team or earn money from selling them he has big advantage and for me no reason to keep playing
After a 6 year break give it second try and its a disaster
At least make for new players to have one 4HP player at the first youths that they have so they can have reason to keep playing and have fun

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Nobody says that the 4 HP will become a star, he can always have bad maxings
But is good to know that you have one
Its a game the game must make you have fun
People spend money to make them happy, nobody likes lost causes to pay for

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another of my friends have from 23 youths and 9 changes
four 4HP and only 2HP players, all the rest 3 HP
in a long term his team is takin a big advantage-
he can has much bigger chance than me to have good players for the team or to sell for good amount, also he can have good results at u18 league at cups, I cant play at that even if I want because will not keep so many trash at my team and will fire all the upcoming saturday, this is totaly random and can help only more players to quit that game nothing else, must be more balanced between the teams
my experience with 14 from 54 3HP is even near close to the 50% chance ot having 3HP youths, its a disaster, probably waiting tomorrow to have two more 2HP for exchange

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one more of my friends just posted at our forum his new youths
his result from 22 new - 3 with 4HP, 17 with 3 HP and 2 with 2HP
will fire mine this saturday, will leave just few for possible exchanges(just dreams hahaha), after round 11 will take another 23, if its the same result will never log at this parody of game again
Crew if somebody of you is reading this(probably not), can you answer me how you expect people to pay money just to have headache
14 of 54 when at news is writen 51% of 3HP players, for me it sounds like wrong info to steal money from players

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naskoch wrote:
one more of my friends just posted at our forum his new youths
his result from 22 new - 3 with 4HP, 17 with 3 HP and 2 with 2HP
will fire mine this saturday, will leave just few for possible exchanges(just dreams hahaha), after round 11 will take another 23, if its the same result will never log at this parody of game again
Crew if somebody of you is reading this(probably not), can you answer me how you expect people to pay money just to have headache
14 of 54 when at news is writen 51% of 3HP players, for me it sounds like wrong info to steal money from players


Unfortunately you’ve been quite unlucky. At the end of the day using youth customisation is a gamble. You run the risk of getting some great players and you also take the risk in getting bad players. You’re probably at one end of the spectrum and somebody else would have got really lucky, much like how loyal players work.

Nobody made you pay for that feature too and it comes with no guarantees.

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I havent use youth customisation, just restarted the game after 6 years break and ordered 23 youths at day one, maked 11 changes then fired 20 and took 20 new the second week, all together 54
read this
Drop rates
Each time you use the Scout Report on a new player, the chance of achieving a certain star rating will be as follows:

Highest potential
1 star: very rare
2 stars: ~45%
3 stars: ~51%
4 stars: ~4%
Lowest potential
1 star: ~53%
2 stars: ~47%
3-4 stars: very rare

and my expectations from 54 trys counting this percents is about 1-2 4HP and about 26-27 3HP, not ZERO and 14
if I want to play gamble will join a casino and should have much better chance I believe
If I was a new player and took my first youths at day 2 and have this and see what the rest have, sure will not stay to play, will you?
this total randomisation must be fixed very soon else more and more players will quit like the mass exodus 6 years ago with the great update for deteriorations at 27y playes, yes it was fixed but too late
As I say, for long term my team is dead - no good players coming from youths and no good players to sell, as you all know, nobody will buy a player with 2HP
As I say will lower the amount of the youths and will make a try after round 11, but the season is gone - cant play at u18 leagues and cups and this is less incomes because cant look all this trash at my team, even dont have a desire to look the training reports now, this just ruined all my efforts
And sorry but to wait a whole season is 3 months and as you say is a gabmble
those that will come after round 11 have missed half of season of training, from my experience till now they all can be trash again and expect that they will be with training speed 1, will see
for long term game this damage is big issue

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Your long term team is not dead at all but very short term.

You can 100% have a competitive U18 side full of 2HP players so that argument is incorrect. Their prospects after U18’s aren’t great though but at youth level completely fine. If you exchange two a week you’ll end up with decent youth in no time. Managerzone is a marathon not a sprint

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Their prospect afte U18 i to be fired, I will not keep them 3 seasons - a whole year just to fire them exactly because its a marathon, just a waste season for me, no guarantees for the next too
Can have good team only for paraolympics if I keep them
Already maked 11 changes as I say and the same trash
Normaly the youths that join later must be little big better, waiting tomorrow for 2 more 2HP youth lets see

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And please stop telling me that is ok, if was happen to should you keep 23 trash youths that 2 may become or may not become normal players and 19 will be not good players at 100%
If it happens to a new manager your advice is to play 3 seasons with no future for the team then again gamble?
I’m posting it here if somebody from crew check it to see that this not work properly, for the new teams that starting the game must have even better chances
The problem of MZ is that people leaving and nobody comes, there arent even the half of the managers now that played before the 27yo deteriorations and the great wing+head update

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My only option now is to play few more weeks to see the changes at the few that will leave and what will come at the mid season and if its the same to quit playing
I always had a strong team at the past, even now have buy very very good players still unmaxed 90% of them with 4 HP, but market is market
My pleasure from the game are the youths, to wake up and check the training reports with a coffee

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goalsaurus wrote:
Naskoch, maybe one of the players I am selling is what you are looking for.


goalsaurus wrote:
Naskoch, maybe one of the players I am selling is what you are looking for.


for LA to joking with another users I think is against the rules and your post has nothing with the Suggestions/Improvements

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So I guess the suggestion is every player that has a player id that is a multiple of 23 (so every 23rd player) is guaranteed to have 4 HP. And that there is a pattern (So for example, in every player that is the 8th generated in the 'pattern' of 23 will have 2 HP, every player that is the 13th generated in the 'pattern' of 23 will have 3 HP etc).

But then what do you do about LP and training speed stars ? It would logically follow that they should also follow a pattern. Thus making it possible to accurately predict (As an outsider) which players will be superstars (By matching the patterns up)...

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dagriggstar wrote:
Thus making it possible to accurately predict (As an outsider) which players will be superstars (By matching the patterns up)...

the only sure thing looking mine is that noone will be a star not superstar
its not said that if you have 10 4HP players all they will be stars, they all can have bad maxings, but you hope for them, for mine I know that they wont be, big differense
continue today another 1 with 2 HP and 1 with 3HP from the daily changes
so till now 15 from 56 with 3HP and 41 2HP, looks like going for record

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this game make me so happy that cant wait my quarantine to finish to go to fill my CC to buy tokens, pure managment - people are happy with a game - they spend money, if they arent just dont play

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naskoch, I wasn't joking.
My point is: if you are unlucky with your academy, look on the transfer market.

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another 2 with 2HP from the weekly changes so counting 15 from 58 with 3HP and 43 with 2 HP,
just no words

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2 more with 2HP from the changes today
wonder how worse can be
15 from 60 with 3HP, and 45 from 60 with 2HP
far far far away from the news(51% with 3HP)
of cource NONE with 4HP

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so going to rid all this trash at saturday of cource cause bored to try and try the gamble at this casino
If I use the youth customization option do you think will be better or just more money for false info that you provide for your product
and why to pay for something twice
 
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