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Please hear me out dear Crew - Still Away team advantage exists

By localhero (LA) - 17-10-2020 15:13

[MZ-TR]

Dear Crew and game improvers, Please check the match link which we play in World League.For a while ago, with gamers request, sim has been revized and advantage of away teams in the matches has been solved like. But as you can see from here, there is still advantage of away teams. I am not saying this looking at only one match. I accept that surprises can happen but one or two match in ten could be. It shouldn't be surprises happening at half of the matches we played. Please check this bug again. https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182106676&tid=132137 Lots of players are still claiming in Turkey. I don't know that there is similar claim in other countries but I kindly request to check and give feed back to us. Thanks in advance. Cuneyt (NCA -Turkey)Dear Crew and game improvers,

Please check the match link which we play in World League.For a while ago, with gamers request, sim has been revized and advantage of away teams in the matches has been solved like. But as you can see from here, there is still advantage of away teams. I am not saying this looking at only one match. I accept that surprises can happen but one or two match in ten could be. It shouldn't be surprises happening at half of the matches we played. Please check this bug again.

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182106676&tid=132137

Lots of players are still claiming in Turkey. I don't know that there is similar claim in other countries but I kindly request to check and give feed back to us.

Thanks in advance.

Cuneyt (NCA -Turkey)

 

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Re: Please hear me out dear Crew - Still Away team advantage exi

By agapitod (HMA) - 18-10-2020 13:14

[France]

The away advantage is when the away team plays better than the home teal. In the case you show, the home team played much better but wasn't able to win the match. I know a lot of people and for the moment, nobody agrees with your statement. We tested the simulator for one whole season, it's not something crew did in 3 days.The away advantage is when the away team plays better than the home teal. In the case you show, the home team played much better but wasn't able to win the match.

I know a lot of people and for the moment, nobody agrees with your statement. We tested the simulator for one whole season, it's not something crew did in 3 days.

Re: Please hear me out dear Crew - Still Away team advantage exi

By floodish - 21-10-2020 00:06

[BotP]

The away team advantage has been removed as from this season. This doesn't mean we wont see crazy result and matches as before ;)The away team advantage has been removed as from this season. This doesn't mean we wont see crazy result and matches as before ;)

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By localhero (LA) - 21-10-2020 09:13

[MZ-TR]

I guess that you are absolutely right 😀🖐 But I prefer having less crazy results after all 😆

floodish wrote:

The away team advantage has been removed as from this season. This doesn't mean we wont see crazy result and matches as before ;)

I guess that you are absolutely right 😀🖐 But I prefer having less crazy results after all 😆

Re: Please hear me out dear Crew - Still Away team advantage exi

By nik2780 - 21-10-2020 10:05

They made a simulator even worse than it was.

agapitod wrote:

The away advantage is when the away team plays better than the home teal. In the case you show, the home team played much better but wasn't able to win the match.

I know a lot of people and for the moment, nobody agrees with your statement. We tested the simulator for one whole season, it's not something crew did in 3 days.

They made a simulator even worse than it was.

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By localhero (LA) - 22-10-2020 18:58

[MZ-TR]

Here is one more proof. Do you still bet you eliminated away advantage?!!? https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182122711&tid=132137Here is one more proof. Do you still bet you eliminated away advantage?!!?

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182122711&tid=132137

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By nomers - 26-10-2020 03:30

[TDF]

If this is how you consider "away advantage", how do you then explain this: https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182122709&tid=23589 If you're gonna complain, at least complain about what you actually want to complain about, which is bad sim or too much "crazy" results. Personally I like a bit of uncertainty as the game would be very boring if we could predict every result. I've seen hockey-matches where a team completely dominates and gets beaten. It happens in real life and it should also happen here from time to time in my opinion.

localhero wrote:

Here is one more proof. Do you still bet you eliminated away advantage?!!?

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182122711&tid=132137

If this is how you consider "away advantage", how do you then explain this:

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182122709&tid=23589

If you're gonna complain, at least complain about what you actually want to complain about, which is bad sim or too much "crazy" results.

Personally I like a bit of uncertainty as the game would be very boring if we could predict every result. I've seen hockey-matches where a team completely dominates and gets beaten. It happens in real life and it should also happen here from time to time in my opinion.

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By localhero (LA) - 27-10-2020 08:15

[MZ-TR]

Yes, I accept it should happen the surprise results "time to time" . But if it happens everyday, can you call it "time to time" ?!!! Please examine carefully. I have been playing this game for 12 years and I have seen many things but this is different. There isn't uncertainty, thereis unbalanced results. Think about it again 😉😀

nomers wrote:

If this is how you consider "away advantage", how do you then explain this:

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182122709&tid=23589

If you're gonna complain, at least complain about what you actually want to complain about, which is bad sim or too much "crazy" results.

Personally I like a bit of uncertainty as the game would be very boring if we could predict every result. I've seen hockey-matches where a team completely dominates and gets beaten. It happens in real life and it should also happen here from time to time in my opinion.

Yes, I accept it should happen the surprise results "time to time" . But if it happens everyday, can you call it "time to time" ?!!! Please examine carefully. I have been playing this game for 12 years and I have seen many things but this is different. There isn't uncertainty, thereis unbalanced results. Think about it again 😉😀

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By nomers - 28-10-2020 04:55

[TDF]

Okay, let's examine. Last day(27/10) you played 12 games, I played 10, which gives 22 games in total. Out of those 22 games we have one game each i consider to be "eyebrow-raising". The rest seem to be "correct" or coin-flip results based on stats. Out of this small sample; 2 out of 22 games games where the results were wrong/crazy. Which again is about 9,1% of the time. You might think this is too much, others might agree with you or think it's too little. Opinions differ after all. Kırklarelispor beat Basaksehir over 2 rounds in the cup last year. It was VERY unlikely, but it happened nonetheless. Catch my drift? 😉

localhero wrote:

Yes, I accept it should happen the surprise results "time to time" . But if it happens everyday, can you call it "time to time" ?!!! Please examine carefully. I have been playing this game for 12 years and I have seen many things but this is different. There isn't uncertainty, thereis unbalanced results. Think about it again 😉😀

Okay, let's examine.
Last day(27/10) you played 12 games, I played 10, which gives 22 games in total.
Out of those 22 games we have one game each i consider to be "eyebrow-raising".
The rest seem to be "correct" or coin-flip results based on stats.

Out of this small sample; 2 out of 22 games games where the results were wrong/crazy. Which again is about 9,1% of the time.

You might think this is too much, others might agree with you or think it's too little. Opinions differ after all.
Kırklarelispor beat Basaksehir over 2 rounds in the cup last year. It was VERY unlikely, but it happened nonetheless. Catch my drift? 😉

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By localhero (LA) - 11-11-2020 10:31

[MZ-TR]

What about these ones? Did you catch my drift? 😉 https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182194011&tid=132137 https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182226819&tid=132137

nomers wrote:

Okay, let's examine.
Last day(27/10) you played 12 games, I played 10, which gives 22 games in total.
Out of those 22 games we have one game each i consider to be "eyebrow-raising".
The rest seem to be "correct" or coin-flip results based on stats.

Out of this small sample; 2 out of 22 games games where the results were wrong/crazy. Which again is about 9,1% of the time.

You might think this is too much, others might agree with you or think it's too little. Opinions differ after all.
Kırklarelispor beat Basaksehir over 2 rounds in the cup last year. It was VERY unlikely, but it happened nonetheless. Catch my drift? 😉

What about these ones? Did you catch my drift? 😉

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182194011&tid=132137

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182226819&tid=132137

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By localhero (LA) - 11-11-2020 10:36

[MZ-TR]

And one more ; https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182236473&tid=132137And one more ;

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182236473&tid=132137

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By gudfadern_86 - 14-11-2020 22:50

[MZS]

Was any of those results supposed to show there is an away advantage? Your second link, Morena beat you by being the slightly better team in the match. The first one on that post is not that big of a deal really, losing 2-1 with a 20-12 shooting advantage isn't anything strange really, neither here on MZ or in the real world. That kind of things happen all the time. The last one isn't that big of a deal really either. You are sitting on a keeper with 3-4 pucks while your opponent have one with 7. Ofc you will have to shoot alot more to get some goals. There it's enough with the opponent having one good player and your in order to get goals against you.

localhero wrote:

And one more ;

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=182236473&tid=132137

Was any of those results supposed to show there is an away advantage?

Your second link, Morena beat you by being the slightly better team in the match.

The first one on that post is not that big of a deal really, losing 2-1 with a 20-12 shooting advantage isn't anything strange really, neither here on MZ or in the real world. That kind of things happen all the time.

The last one isn't that big of a deal really either. You are sitting on a keeper with 3-4 pucks while your opponent have one with 7. Ofc you will have to shoot alot more to get some goals. There it's enough with the opponent having one good player and your in order to get goals against you.

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By localhero (LA) - 15-11-2020 20:36

[MZ-TR]

******************** I am talking based on truths not hypathetically. If home team has 20-12 shoot advantage and still loses, so what can it be other than away advantage?!!! The truth is here that surprises can happen but rarely, that's what we called "surprise". If it happens everyday or once in every two or three days, we can not call it surprise. Don't you agree with me? Think about it again. 😉

gudfadern_86 wrote:

Was any of those results supposed to show there is an away advantage?

Your second link, Morena beat you by being the slightly better team in the match.

The first one on that post is not that big of a deal really, losing 2-1 with a 20-12 shooting advantage isn't anything strange really, neither here on MZ or in the real world. That kind of things happen all the time.

The last one isn't that big of a deal really either. You are sitting on a keeper with 3-4 pucks while your opponent have one with 7. Ofc you will have to shoot alot more to get some goals. There it's enough with the opponent having one good player and your in order to get goals against you.

********************
I am talking based on truths not hypathetically. If home team has 20-12 shoot advantage and still loses, so what can it be other than away advantage?!!! The truth is here that surprises can happen but rarely, that's what we called "surprise". If it happens everyday or once in every two or three days, we can not call it surprise. Don't you agree with me? Think about it again. 😉

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By gudfadern_86 - 15-11-2020 20:43

[MZS]

But the same thing happens against the awayteam as well in similair fashion. I do see plenty of games where the awayteam win the shooting and lose the game, is there a home team advantage in those games or what other can it be then? It could simply just be that your tactic works poorly against a different setup from the opponent, sometimes just simply unlucky or sometimes that the opposition have a great defence but aren't able to get the puck up so often to be able to score but once there his players are better at shooting overall than yours. Can be several different things but as long as it happens both against home and awayteams it's not an away team advantage, even though it's a bit frustrating from time to time.But the same thing happens against the awayteam as well in similair fashion. I do see plenty of games where the awayteam win the shooting and lose the game, is there a home team advantage in those games or what other can it be then?

It could simply just be that your tactic works poorly against a different setup from the opponent, sometimes just simply unlucky or sometimes that the opposition have a great defence but aren't able to get the puck up so often to be able to score but once there his players are better at shooting overall than yours.

Can be several different things but as long as it happens both against home and awayteams it's not an away team advantage, even though it's a bit frustrating from time to time.

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By localhero (LA) - 15-11-2020 22:23

[MZ-TR]

P [b]Please do not forget that home team has always a little more advantage against away team even though away team is stronger than home team. [/b]

gudfadern_86 wrote:

But the same thing happens against the awayteam as well in similair fashion. I do see plenty of games where the awayteam win the shooting and lose the game, is there a home team advantage in those games or what other can it be then? Yes. It is called "home team advantage" and it is normal. That's way it should be.

It could simply just be that your tactic works poorly against a different setup from the opponent, sometimes just simply unlucky or sometimes that the opposition have a great defence but aren't able to get the puck up so often to be able to score but once there his players are better at shooting overall than yours.

I want to underline the word sometimes from things that you wrote, not in every two or three days. We call it sometimes. Please try to understand.

Can be several different things but as long as it happens both against home and awayteams it's not an away team advantage, even though it's a bit frustrating from time to time.

P

Please do not forget that home team has always a little more advantage against away team even though away team is stronger than home team.

Re: Please hear me out dear Crew - Still Away team advantage exi

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By poolboy - 25-12-2021 20:36

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12 against 21. im shocked....12 against 21. im shocked....

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