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Why this player isn't 4 stars Highest Potential?

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I saw this player today in the market and i can't understand why he's 3 stars highest potential in Stamina and Tackling.

Maybe this can tell us some extra information about the rest of the abilities...

Also, he's 2 starts Lowest Potential in PI and Shooting.

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Re: Why this player isn't 4 stars Highest Potential?

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[204]
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The stars are not 100% accurate. They work more like indicators. E.x. (not accurate):

4 STARS
70% 10 balls
30% 9 balls

3 STARS
10% 10 balls
40% 9 balls
45% 8 balls
5% 7 balls

2 STARS
0% 10 balls
5% 9 balls
25% 8 balls
50% 7 balls
20% 6 balls

1 STAR
0% 8-10 balls
5% 7 balls
20% 6 balls
45% 5 balls
30% 4 balls

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Interesting...those numbers are confirmed by the crew?

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[204]
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ernestogonzalez wrote:
Interesting...those numbers are confirmed by the crew?


No

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[FLUSA]
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There are multiple theories but to put it simply, a 3 stars player should have less total balls than a 4 star players when both are totally maxed out.

According to a theory (that is not a 100% accurate but so far is about 99% accurate), the maximum a 3 star player can achieve on the 5 best skills is:

10, 10, 8, 8, 8
10, 9, 9, 8, 8
9, 9, 9, 9, 8

So theoretically, this player won't go past 8 balls in any other skill...

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So, there is two distinctive theories pointed by disinocht and darkline.

disinocht: HP is not really accurate, just a probability for the highest 2 skills. This means that in some cases H3 playes can be even better than H4 players. Other skills are not affect by HP.

darkline: The HP doenst refer only to the two highest skills, but also to the best 5 skills. H4 has always more balls than H3 in those 5 skills.

Only time to confirm which one is valid. As a software developer I would bet the first one makes more sense to implement.

When a player is born he is associate a HP for 2 skills. Then based on the probability he gets the max amount of balls for each skill. Other skills are calculated after, but instead of 10, the upper limit is the mininum between the 2 HP.

Doing is a sum of the best 5 skills seems more troublesome.

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caiobos wrote:
So, there is two distinctive theories pointed by disinocht and darkline.


Yeah idk what’s the true programming, but that’s how I’ve experienced it😁

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darkline wrote:
There are multiple theories but to put it simply, a 3 stars player should have less total balls than a 4 star players when both are totally maxed out.

According to a theory (that is not a 100% accurate but so far is about 99% accurate), the maximum a 3 star player can achieve on the 5 best skills is:

10, 10, 8, 8, 8
10, 9, 9, 8, 8
9, 9, 9, 9, 8

So theoretically, this player won't go past 8 balls in any other skill...


Nice! Can you complete this information with the distribution of H4 and H2?

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Thank you everyone! I'm back after 2 years inactive and this new feature is awesome.

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[204]
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Welcome back :D

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disinocht wrote:
Welcome back :D


Ty! :D

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I use 4 best skills theory, not 5.
A 4 star potential with 10,9 balls and I predict that at least two 9 on other items.
A 3 star potential with 10,9 balls and I predict that at most one 9 on other items.
4 best skills theory is easy. IF sum of the 4 best skills is 37 balls or above 37 balls, then this player got 4 star potential. IF it is 34-36 balls, it is 3 star potential. So 10,10,9,7 and 10,10,8,8 can be 3 star potential.

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Yasin Alkan

Age: 34 (Retired)



This is my Player

H.P = 5* ( Stamina and shooting )

L.P = 2* (Keeping and play intelligence )

İ wonder when the ball control will be maxed :)


when should i put on the transfer list ?

what is your comment ?

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alex66 wrote:
Yasin Alkan

Age: 34 (Retired)



This is my Player

H.P = 5* ( Stamina and shooting )

L.P = 2* (Keeping and play intelligence )

İ wonder when the ball control will be maxed :)


when should i put on the transfer list ?

what is your comment ?


My comment is if you want to advertise a player you need to post in the “transfer” forum and not hijack this post.

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it is not advert, sorry admin delete my message pls

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caiobos wrote:

Doing is a sum of the best 5 skills seems more troublesome.


All the skills of the players are defined from scratch. From the point of view of software implementation, I don't see the problem in assigning a number of stars depending on the sum of the 5 highest/lowest skills. I really support the theory of darkline indeed, but more combinations are possible for HP's 3 stars (the final sum may be 42 or 43)
 
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