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Maximized skills - data collection

By jose4003 - 22-04-2020 00:12

Hey all, I'd like to share some data about the skill's maximization chance. It's well known by everyone that a player can maximize a skill in a value between 4 and 10. Well, but the chances are not equally distributed. This explains, for example, why there are fewer players with maximization at 4/10 and many more with 7/8. I collected some data from transfer market to get these values. [b]Important informations[/b]: 1) Speed and Stamina were disregard from this analysis because they suffer from deterioration in 30+ players. 2) The number of players analyzed: [b]16773[/b], from which were analyzed [b]47444[/b] maximized skills (2,82 maximizations per player). 3) From those 47444 analyzed skills, 18587 were from Speed and Stamina (disregarded) and [b]28857[/b] from other skills. [img]https://i.ibb.co/924JBfk/Screenshot-9.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.ibb.co/Qr4pZkG/Screenshot-10.jpg[/img] Any doubt, leave a comment, peace!Hey all,

I'd like to share some data about the skill's maximization chance. It's well known by everyone that a player can maximize a skill in a value between 4 and 10. Well, but the chances are not equally distributed. This explains, for example, why there are fewer players with maximization at 4/10 and many more with 7/8.

I collected some data from transfer market to get these values. Important informations:

1) Speed and Stamina were disregard from this analysis because they suffer from deterioration in 30+ players.
2) The number of players analyzed: 16773, from which were analyzed 47444 maximized skills (2,82 maximizations per player).
3) From those 47444 analyzed skills, 18587 were from Speed and Stamina (disregarded) and 28857 from other skills.






Any doubt, leave a comment, peace!

 

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Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By floodish - 22-04-2020 03:50

[BotP]

Thanks for sharing, great info!Thanks for sharing, great info!

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By chucky06 - 22-04-2020 05:50

[AUSNZ]
President

Interesting that a player is more likely to get 10 balls in a skill than 5. Good data- thank you :)Interesting that a player is more likely to get 10 balls in a skill than 5.

Good data- thank you :)

Ant: Maximized skills - data collection

By mwosle (FA) - 22-04-2020 11:04

[DISCLL]

Because the 5 ballers get fired, maybe?

chucky06 wrote:

Interesting that a player is more likely to get 10 balls in a skill than 5.

Good data- thank you :)

Because the 5 ballers get fired, maybe?

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By deleted_5240478 - 22-04-2020 11:27

Yeah, if a player maxes at 4 quick as a youth he is normally exchanged! If later he is sacked as he has no sale value!Yeah, if a player maxes at 4 quick as a youth he is normally exchanged! If later he is sacked as he has no sale value!

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By jose4003 - 22-04-2020 21:51

I have to agree that maxed players at 4 are usually exchanged soon, but I don't think this applies for 5+ skills. Thus, the statistical data for 5+ balls is still valid.I have to agree that maxed players at 4 are usually exchanged soon, but I don't think this applies for 5+ skills. Thus, the statistical data for 5+ balls is still valid.

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By darkline - 23-04-2020 01:40

[FLUSA]
President

Really depends on the skill, I regularly fire players maxed at 5/6 if I consider the skill to be critical and the player can't be sold due to the maxing, so it's not just players exchanged that you have to take into account. I'd say if you want to do a better analysis, pick a skill that most likely won't get trained until later on and won't be likely to be reason for exchange/firing, for example short passing... what is the distribution of 4 to 10 balls on short passing?

jose4003 wrote:

I have to agree that maxed players at 4 are usually exchanged soon, but I don't think this applies for 5+ skills. Thus, the statistical data for 5+ balls is still valid.

Really depends on the skill, I regularly fire players maxed at 5/6 if I consider the skill to be critical and the player can't be sold due to the maxing, so it's not just players exchanged that you have to take into account.

I'd say if you want to do a better analysis, pick a skill that most likely won't get trained until later on and won't be likely to be reason for exchange/firing, for example short passing... what is the distribution of 4 to 10 balls on short passing?

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By jose4003 - 23-04-2020 02:09

That's an excellent idea! Just ran it right now. Got the results: [img]https://i.ibb.co/k9DDPYy/Screenshot-11.jpg[/img] That's really different from my previous data. And probably closer to reality. Thanks for the idea

darkline wrote:

Really depends on the skill, I regularly fire players maxed at 5/6 if I consider the skill to be critical and the player can't be sold due to the maxing, so it's not just players exchanged that you have to take into account.

I'd say if you want to do a better analysis, pick a skill that most likely won't get trained until later on and won't be likely to be reason for exchange/firing, for example short passing... what is the distribution of 4 to 10 balls on short passing?

That's an excellent idea!

Just ran it right now. Got the results:



That's really different from my previous data. And probably closer to reality. Thanks for the idea

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By jose4003 - 23-04-2020 02:14

[b]Forgot to update one value on the image. The correct graph is this one:[/b] [img]https://i.ibb.co/LhnNRdK/Screenshot-12.jpg[/img]

jose4003 wrote:

That's an excellent idea!

Just ran it right now. Got the results:

That's really different from my previous data. And probably closer to reality. Thanks for the idea

Forgot to update one value on the image. The correct graph is this one:

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By bukankita (RA) - 24-04-2020 01:21

[MIC]

wow thanks, nice info :Dwow thanks, nice info :D

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By caiobos - 09-05-2020 19:47

[CIMZ]

This means, for one specific attribute: - ~17% of the players reach at least 9. - ~40% of the players reach at least 8. - ~65% of the players reach at least 7. Now, if you do the same calculation but for 2 attributes instead: - ~3% of the players reach at least 9 in both. - ~16% of the players reach at least 8 in both. - ~42% of the players reach at least 7 in both.This means, for one specific attribute:
- ~17% of the players reach at least 9.
- ~40% of the players reach at least 8.
- ~65% of the players reach at least 7.

Now, if you do the same calculation but for 2 attributes instead:
- ~3% of the players reach at least 9 in both.
- ~16% of the players reach at least 8 in both.
- ~42% of the players reach at least 7 in both.

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By jose4003 - 12-05-2020 00:41

Yes, and this goes on for 3 abilities with 9 and etc.. We can see how difficult and rare a good player is

caiobos wrote:

This means, for one specific attribute:
- ~17% of the players reach at least 9.
- ~40% of the players reach at least 8.
- ~65% of the players reach at least 7.

Now, if you do the same calculation but for 2 attributes instead:
- ~3% of the players reach at least 9 in both.
- ~16% of the players reach at least 8 in both.
- ~42% of the players reach at least 7 in both.

Yes, and this goes on for 3 abilities with 9 and etc.. We can see how difficult and rare a good player is

Re: Maximized skills - data collection

By goki - 21-05-2020 11:07

[ELITE!]

Hi, do you have a collection of such data with corresponding thunders? I'm just wandering what is a probability for H4,H3,H2 selection, how it looks in specific balls. Anyway, data is nice, worth to consider :)Hi,

do you have a collection of such data with corresponding thunders?
I'm just wandering what is a probability for H4,H3,H2 selection, how it looks in specific balls.

Anyway, data is nice, worth to consider :)

 

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