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COVID-19

By wesleyferraz4 - 17-03-2020 01:00

[MZUSA]

How is the virus affecting you and your community? Know anybody who has contracted the disease? What steps are you taking to stay healthy during this pandemic? Knowledge is power, lets share it!How is the virus affecting you and your community? Know anybody who has contracted the disease? What steps are you taking to stay healthy during this pandemic?

Knowledge is power, lets share it!

 

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Re: COVID-19

By wesleyferraz4 - 17-03-2020 01:07

[MZUSA]

I live on the outskirts of Houston, Texas. Currently 30 people have been diagnosed with the virus in the area, luckily no one I know is infected yet. Schools are shut down until mid April. All clubs and bars are to close their doors for the next 15 days. Eating at restaurants has also been banned. However, drive-thru and pick-up options are still available.I live on the outskirts of Houston, Texas. Currently 30 people have been diagnosed with the virus in the area, luckily no one I know is infected yet. Schools are shut down until mid April. All clubs and bars are to close their doors for the next 15 days. Eating at restaurants has also been banned. However, drive-thru and pick-up options are still available.

Re: COVID-19

By evosa - 17-03-2020 09:59

[LEGEND]

[img]https://www.valitsus.ee/sites/default/files/130320_eriolukorra_plakat_5577_ing_kuj_ii.png[/img] Some info on the picture is outdated. as borders are now closed(foreigners cannot access to estonia, only who live here, and all people who come here are asked to stay home for two weeks) https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries From there you can see that has estonia has 225 positive test(sort by tot cases per 1m population). Btw..since government lacks resources than all people are not tested! Meaning real number could be much much higher as health board in estonia focuses on risk groups, meaning mostly on elderly people.

Valitsus wrote:

The Government of Estonia has declared the emergency situation on 12th March due to the worldwide pandemic of Coronavirus COVID-19 and the threat of mass infections.

The emergency situation has been declared to contain the spread of the virus. The government has decided to ban public gatherings and implement distant learning at schools, it has implemented sanitary controls at the border and closed cultural institutions until 1st of May. The emergency situation allows to implement emergency command organization. A government commission headed by the prime minister, has been established to solve the emergency situation. Unless decreed otherwise by the government, the emergency situation remains in force until 1 May 2020.

To help to contain the spreading of the virus it is important to follow the orders of the government and other official institutions. Responsible behavior will protect ourselves, our close ones and people with weakened immune system like the elderly and chronically ill.

Some info on the picture is outdated. as borders are now closed(foreigners cannot access to estonia, only who live here, and all people who come here are asked to stay home for two weeks)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

From there you can see that has estonia has 225 positive test(sort by tot cases per 1m population).

Btw..since government lacks resources than all people are not tested! Meaning real number could be much much higher as health board in estonia focuses on risk groups, meaning mostly on elderly people.

Re: COVID-19

By aldebaran - 17-03-2020 15:46

do not hoard on toilet paper, masks and hand sanitizers... [img]https://miro.medium.com/max/480/1*AjjSTJG6cqaMcBUSROPw0Q.jpeg[/img]do not hoard on toilet paper, masks and hand sanitizers...

Re: COVID-19

By deleted_5240478 - 17-03-2020 17:17

Uk 🇬🇧 seams to be open for business! We are all still waiting for a shutdown!Uk 🇬🇧 seams to be open for business!

We are all still waiting for a shutdown!

Re: COVID-19

By wesleyferraz4 - 17-03-2020 18:42

[MZUSA]

Grocery stores can't seem keep products on the shelves, even though they are limiting customers on many items. I just bought what I needed for the next week or so. People are buying up supplies like a hurricane is about to hit. "Prepare your family, and communicate your plan about evacuations, resources and supplies. Experts suggest stocking at least a 30-day supply of any needed prescriptions. Consider doing the same for food staples, laundry detergent and diapers, if you have small children." https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html Overreaction maybe?Grocery stores can't seem keep products on the shelves, even though they are limiting customers on many items. I just bought what I needed for the next week or so. People are buying up supplies like a hurricane is about to hit.

"Prepare your family, and communicate your plan about evacuations, resources and supplies. Experts suggest stocking at least a 30-day supply of any needed prescriptions. Consider doing the same for food staples, laundry detergent and diapers, if you have small children." https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html

Overreaction maybe?

Re: COVID-19

By lukaszsz182 (RA) (NCA) - 17-03-2020 19:10

[POLSKA]

Fu*** people are mad and selfish ! They think if they buy 100 hand sanitazier and anti bacterial soap it will do any good ! Leave some for the rest, more healty community then the higher chance you won't get it. If shelfs are empty then other people can't stay safe therefore more will get sick ! Some people are just out of their brain and behave like completely idiots. Ireland is going worse every day yesterday 54 new cases in the Republic. Over 220 now.Fu*** people are mad and selfish ! They think if they buy 100 hand sanitazier and anti bacterial soap it will do any good ! Leave some for the rest, more healty community then the higher chance you won't get it. If shelfs are empty then other people can't stay safe therefore more will get sick !

Some people are just out of their brain and behave like completely idiots.

Ireland is going worse every day yesterday 54 new cases in the Republic. Over 220 now.

Re: COVID-19

By wesleyferraz4 - 17-03-2020 19:57

[MZUSA]

Lots of conspiracy theories out there. There is a level 4 biosafety lab right outside of Wuhan. Anything is a possibility in this crazy f'ed up world. China says the US caused the outbreak, not sure how I feel about that. Apparently the US troops were in Wuhan in October of last year. I think there definitely is some hidden agenda behind this epidemic.Lots of conspiracy theories out there. There is a level 4 biosafety lab right outside of Wuhan. Anything is a possibility in this crazy f'ed up world. China says the US caused the outbreak, not sure how I feel about that. Apparently the US troops were in Wuhan in October of last year. I think there definitely is some hidden agenda behind this epidemic.

Re: COVID-19

By deleted_5240478 - 17-03-2020 20:16

I just went to the shop. Kids got belated birthday cash! Took the 4 year old with me and he said daddy why are all the shelves empty! I told him cos ppl are stupid! He is happy he got his Connect 4 game 🤣I just went to the shop. Kids got belated birthday cash! Took the 4 year old with me and he said daddy why are all the shelves empty! I told him cos ppl are stupid!

He is happy he got his Connect 4 game 🤣

Re: COVID-19

By darkline - 17-03-2020 22:04

[FLUSA]
President

As far as I know, there's not an epidemic of diarrhea so I don't get why people feel the need to buy 300 rolls of toilet paper.As far as I know, there's not an epidemic of diarrhea so I don't get why people feel the need to buy 300 rolls of toilet paper.

Ri: COVID-19

By baberuth - 18-03-2020 09:14

Hello, i write from Italy. Here the situation is not easy. The government has taken very restrictive measures for citizens, who don't they can leave the house except for reasons of extreme necessity. The disease itself is not very dangerous (the deaths are all for people with previous respiratory diseases), but it is very contagious and spreads very quickly (and the Italian state is not adeguate to support the large number of people who need medical attention). If this happens also in your countries the only solution is to stay indoors (if your job allows it) and wait for this wave of infections to pass. It is good not to be alarmed, but also not to underestimate it. Stay indoors!!! Greetings to everyone.Hello,
i write from Italy. Here the situation is not easy. The government has taken very restrictive measures for citizens, who don't they can leave the house except for reasons of extreme necessity. The disease itself is not very dangerous (the deaths are all for people with previous respiratory diseases), but it is very contagious and spreads very quickly (and the Italian state is not adeguate to support the large number of people who need medical attention). If this happens also in your countries the only solution is to stay indoors (if your job allows it) and wait for this wave of infections to pass. It is good not to be alarmed, but also not to underestimate it. Stay indoors!!!
Greetings to everyone.

Re: COVID-19

By sergeidolarov77 - 18-03-2020 09:38

waiting for total shutdown here :(waiting for total shutdown here :(

Re: COVID-19

By charef (FA) (NC) - 24-03-2020 19:34

[PV]

Total shutdown in france and Tunisia. Except for groceries of course.Total shutdown in france and Tunisia.
Except for groceries of course.

Re: COVID-19

By maria171 - 27-03-2020 07:04

[MAS]
President

In Malaysia, our government implement the Movement Control Order (MCO) or as we say it a partial lockdown. It supposed to end on March 31 but got extended to April 14 due to the rising cases of Covid-19 in our country. As of yesterday, we have more than 2,000 positive cases. Hopefully, this will all be over soon. Stay safe everyone.In Malaysia, our government implement the Movement Control Order (MCO) or as we say it a partial lockdown.

It supposed to end on March 31 but got extended to April 14 due to the rising cases of Covid-19 in our country.

As of yesterday, we have more than 2,000 positive cases.

Hopefully, this will all be over soon. Stay safe everyone.

Re: COVID-19

By tree_amigos - 27-03-2020 13:29

[MZUSA]
President

In Illinois, Chicago almost totally shut down. Bars and restaurants closed to dine in after March 16th, largely in response to large groups of individuals gathering to drink for St. Patrick's Day. Recently heard that a large group in Quincy, Illinois crossed the Mississippi River to go into Hannibal, Missouri to go to bar since Illinois bars are shut down. They have closed the lake shore bike trail and all parks because people not practicing social distancing - congregating in large groups, pick up games of soccer, basketball and football. Restaurants open for pick up and delivery, grocery stores still open but restricting quantities of some items. Schools have been shifted to remote learning since March 9. People need to understand the ease with which this disease can be spread and that even if you don't get put on a ventilator with a tube down your throat, your selfish actions could lead to vulnerable individuals being exposed and them getting severely sick. Anyway, practice social distancing, stay indoors if you can and stay well.In Illinois, Chicago almost totally shut down. Bars and restaurants closed to dine in after March 16th, largely in response to large groups of individuals gathering to drink for St. Patrick's Day. Recently heard that a large group in Quincy, Illinois crossed the Mississippi River to go into Hannibal, Missouri to go to bar since Illinois bars are shut down. They have closed the lake shore bike trail and all parks because people not practicing social distancing - congregating in large groups, pick up games of soccer, basketball and football. Restaurants open for pick up and delivery, grocery stores still open but restricting quantities of some items. Schools have been shifted to remote learning since March 9. People need to understand the ease with which this disease can be spread and that even if you don't get put on a ventilator with a tube down your throat, your selfish actions could lead to vulnerable individuals being exposed and them getting severely sick.

Anyway, practice social distancing, stay indoors if you can and stay well.

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 28-03-2020 00:36

It's fake, everyone I know is fine. My community is fine just scared from the lies in the media, scaring people. There is a lot of greedy people that make me sick. At this point I wish it was real and wipes out all there nasty parasites living in this world.It's fake, everyone I know is fine. My community is fine just scared from the lies in the media, scaring people. There is a lot of greedy people that make me sick. At this point I wish it was real and wipes out all there nasty parasites living in this world.

Re: COVID-19

By smaakeloos - 28-03-2020 03:23

Wow, that's sick. Get well soon.

albeagle wrote:

It's fake, everyone I know is fine. My community is fine just scared from the lies in the media, scaring people. There is a lot of greedy people that make me sick. At this point I wish it was real and wipes out all there nasty parasites living in this world.

Wow, that's sick. Get well soon.

Re: COVID-19

By maria171 - 28-03-2020 04:57

[MAS]
President

At the time of writing, USA is a country with the highest Covid-19 positive cases with 104,205 cases. Second place goes to Italy with 86,498 cases and third place goes to China with 81,394. Still saying it’s fake? Enough with the sarcastic remarks. You may think it is not that serious and it just a flu until you or one of your loved ones got infected by the virus. Practice social distancing and limit our movements outside. Be smart and together we can fight this invincible force.

albeagle wrote:

It's fake, everyone I know is fine.

At the time of writing, USA is a country with the highest Covid-19 positive cases with 104,205 cases.

Second place goes to Italy with 86,498 cases and third place goes to China with 81,394.

Still saying it’s fake? Enough with the sarcastic remarks. You may think it is not that serious and it just a flu until you or one of your loved ones got infected by the virus.

Practice social distancing and limit our movements outside. Be smart and together we can fight this invincible force.

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 28-03-2020 13:38

Let me guess, you are ok everyone you know is ok. But the media is telling you people are dying and the government has locked you down and you're afraid. Welcome to the club were all on the same boat. The media is telling us people are sick yet we are all ok. The media brainwashes that is its job, and they are really good at it. I suggest you stop watching tv and start thinking for yourself. Its for your own good. Because if we don't realize what they are doing they will keep doing it. This is the new weapon of controlling the masses. If you don't mind living like this than that's fine. Wear your gloves and mask and wear some diapers too because the virus can get to you even when you sit down, and the diapers protect you.

smaakeloos wrote:

Wow, that's sick. Get well soon.

Let me guess, you are ok everyone you know is ok. But the media is telling you people are dying and the government has locked you down and you're afraid. Welcome to the club were all on the same boat. The media is telling us people are sick yet we are all ok. The media brainwashes that is its job, and they are really good at it. I suggest you stop watching tv and start thinking for yourself. Its for your own good. Because if we don't realize what they are doing they will keep doing it. This is the new weapon of controlling the masses. If you don't mind living like this than that's fine. Wear your gloves and mask and wear some diapers too because the virus can get to you even when you sit down, and the diapers protect you.

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 28-03-2020 13:39

go make me a sandwich

maria171 wrote:

At the time of writing, USA is a country with the highest Covid-19 positive cases with 104,205 cases.

Second place goes to Italy with 86,498 cases and third place goes to China with 81,394.

Still saying it’s fake? Enough with the sarcastic remarks. You may think it is not that serious and it just a flu until you or one of your loved ones got infected by the virus.

Practice social distancing and limit our movements outside. Be smart and together we can fight this invincible force.

go make me a sandwich

Re: COVID-19

By smaakeloos - 28-03-2020 15:05

You're so funny.

albeagle wrote:

(conspiracy bla bla bla) and start thinking for yourself (conspiracy bla bla bla)

You're so funny.

Re: COVID-19

By maria171 - 28-03-2020 16:01

[MAS]
President

He’s the kind of guy who would go to the bar to drink some beer during the lockdown period. My best advise, just ignore him.

smaakeloos wrote:

You're so funny.

He’s the kind of guy who would go to the bar to drink some beer during the lockdown period. My best advise, just ignore him.

Re: COVID-19

By manekaster - 30-03-2020 03:56

[TDF]
President

Please be nice. Feel free to think, mean, and say that the pandemic is fake, a hoax, a conspiracy, or whatever you want, but you don't have to be rude to others just because they disagree with you 🤠

albeagle wrote:

go make me a sandwich

Please be nice. Feel free to think, mean, and say that the pandemic is fake, a hoax, a conspiracy, or whatever you want, but you don't have to be rude to others just because they disagree with you 🤠

Re: COVID-19

By superdad123 - 30-03-2020 16:29

[ENG]

Prince Charles is self isolating with COVID-19 Prince Andrew is self isolating with Lucy-14 😂Prince Charles is self isolating with COVID-19
Prince Andrew is self isolating with Lucy-14 😂

Re: COVID-19

By deleted_5240478 - 30-03-2020 18:34

🤣🤣🤣

superdad123 wrote:

Prince Charles is self isolating with COVID-19
Prince Andrew is self isolating with Lucy-14 😂

🤣🤣🤣

Re: COVID-19

By evosa - 30-03-2020 20:09

[LEGEND]

Make that joke with Ser Meryn?

superdad123 wrote:

Prince Charles is self isolating with COVID-19
Prince Andrew is self isolating with Lucy-14 😂

Make that joke with Ser Meryn?

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 30-03-2020 21:18

Im just joking. This rap song came out in 2013 talks about the corona virus in 2020. Cant make this stuff up. https://youtu.be/5P77bUdE4p4

manekaster wrote:

Please be nice. Feel free to think, mean, and say that the pandemic is fake, a hoax, a conspiracy, or whatever you want, but you don't have to be rude to others just because they disagree with you 🤠

Im just joking.

This rap song came out in 2013 talks about the corona virus in 2020. Cant make this stuff up.

https://youtu.be/5P77bUdE4p4

Re: COVID-19

By ashleyhughes - 30-03-2020 23:54

[LEGEND]

The fact that even the Prime Minister has it is enough to show that it should be taken seriously. I'm currently furloughed at work for the time being (more time to send promising youths to training camp 🤣) and have to stay in as much as possible unless it's for food. Although I can go for a run (as a runner) I'm playing it safe. Stay safe guys.The fact that even the Prime Minister has it is enough to show that it should be taken seriously.

I'm currently furloughed at work for the time being (more time to send promising youths to training camp 🤣) and have to stay in as much as possible unless it's for food.

Although I can go for a run (as a runner) I'm playing it safe.
Stay safe guys.

Re: COVID-19

By darkline - 31-03-2020 00:20

[FLUSA]
President

Just saying, everyone I know is NOT ok, a guy I play football with is recovering in the hospital and for a while he was in pretty bad shape, had to get oxygen but luckily he improved and didn't require ventilator... and he's not an old guy or with any prexistant conditions neither, he's a sporty guy that doesn't smoke, hits the gym often and goes every morning for a jog. And as a disclaimer, I don't work for the government or the media neither I am undercover spy sent to infiltrate the forums of managerzone.

albeagle wrote:

Let me guess, you are ok everyone you know is ok. But the media is telling you people are dying and the government has locked you down and you're afraid. Welcome to the club were all on the same boat. The media is telling us people are sick yet we are all ok

Just saying, everyone I know is NOT ok, a guy I play football with is recovering in the hospital and for a while he was in pretty bad shape, had to get oxygen but luckily he improved and didn't require ventilator... and he's not an old guy or with any prexistant conditions neither, he's a sporty guy that doesn't smoke, hits the gym often and goes every morning for a jog.

And as a disclaimer, I don't work for the government or the media neither I am undercover spy sent to infiltrate the forums of managerzone.

Re: COVID-19

By deleted_5240478 - 31-03-2020 10:28

Lies, your defo a spy sent by Mr Trump to infiltrate MZ forums! The work they did all these years ago to get you here at the right time to hit the propaganda machine! Bravo sir, bravo! 🤪😂👍

darkline wrote:

And as a disclaimer, I don't work for the government or the media neither I am undercover spy sent to infiltrate the forums of managerzone.

Lies, your defo a spy sent by Mr Trump to infiltrate MZ forums! The work they did all these years ago to get you here at the right time to hit the propaganda machine!

Bravo sir, bravo!

🤪😂👍

Re: COVID-19

By chucky06 - 31-03-2020 12:06

[AUSNZ]
President

Within the rules of my position here, I will happily remove any further comments about Covid-19 being fake or only spread by the media and it not being a real thing.Within the rules of my position here, I will happily remove any further comments about Covid-19 being fake or only spread by the media and it not being a real thing.

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 01-04-2020 21:46

coronavirus = common cold, chucky06 debunk this and than you can delete it. https://youtu.be/bsmYT1nsnZocoronavirus = common cold,

chucky06 debunk this and than you can delete it.

https://youtu.be/bsmYT1nsnZo

Re: COVID-19

By smaakeloos - 02-04-2020 03:28

LOL, great video, thanks for sharing! The stupidity is unbelievable! A perfect example how ignorance these days also can spread fast as a nasty little virus. Hate to break it to you, but you're heavily infected. As a cure, better start watching some main stream media dude! I know you don't like the taste, but buckle up and just take your medicine. Oh, and in case you're really wondering: a coronavirus is just the name for a certain group of viruses. Some are rather harmless and can cause the common cold, unfortunately others can be lethal such as this new virus. It's actually called SARS-CoV-2, but being not a fancy name the media generally just uses it's family name … oh crap, never mind...

albeagle wrote:

coronavirus = common cold,

chucky06 debunk this and than you can delete it.

https://youtu.be/bsmYT1nsnZo

LOL, great video, thanks for sharing! The stupidity is unbelievable! A perfect example how ignorance these days also can spread fast as a nasty little virus. Hate to break it to you, but you're heavily infected. As a cure, better start watching some main stream media dude! I know you don't like the taste, but buckle up and just take your medicine. Oh, and in case you're really wondering: a coronavirus is just the name for a certain group of viruses. Some are rather harmless and can cause the common cold, unfortunately others can be lethal such as this new virus. It's actually called SARS-CoV-2, but being not a fancy name the media generally just uses it's family name … oh crap, never mind...

Re: COVID-19

By fightorflight - 02-04-2020 08:45

[PSCF]

Coronavirus also known as coronaviridae refers to a family of viruses which can cause many different diseases depending on the strain of virus. This is a novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) aka never been exposed to humans before and hence no one has innate immunity (if it was the common cold, it wouldn't have spread and infect/kill as many as it has and will keep doing). It causes the disease known as COVID-19. It's symptoms are much worse than the common cold. Based on the explanations I and smaakeloos have given you, we have debunked the trash you've given a link to. The person is obviously uneducated. As a pre-med student, I find it insulting and downright dangerous for you to push such asinine messaging.

albeagle wrote:

coronavirus = common cold,

chucky06 debunk this and than you can delete it.

https://youtu.be/bsmYT1nsnZo

Coronavirus also known as coronaviridae refers to a family of viruses which can cause many different diseases depending on the strain of virus. This is a novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) aka never been exposed to humans before and hence no one has innate immunity (if it was the common cold, it wouldn't have spread and infect/kill as many as it has and will keep doing). It causes the disease known as COVID-19. It's symptoms are much worse than the common cold.

Based on the explanations I and smaakeloos have given you, we have debunked the trash you've given a link to. The person is obviously uneducated. As a pre-med student, I find it insulting and downright dangerous for you to push such asinine messaging.

Re: COVID-19

By darkline - 02-04-2020 10:46

[FLUSA]
President

Coronaviruses causes common cold, then you also have coronaviruses like MERS that has a 35% mortality rate or SARS with a 10% mortality and now with COVID-19 virus which we don't know yet the real mortality of the virus & also the indirect mortality, by indirect mortality I mean that people will die from things unrelated to Coronavirus because the health system is going to be overwhelmed, so if you have an accident and need treatment, a heart attack, stroke or maybe even appendicitis, you might die because you might not receive proper treatment, there won't be enough ambulances, hospital beds, doctors or the ICU might be full so doctors might decide another patient with better chances of recovery will get that ICU space you need.

albeagle wrote:

coronavirus = common cold,

chucky06 debunk this and than you can delete it.

https://youtu.be/bsmYT1nsnZo

Coronaviruses causes common cold, then you also have coronaviruses like MERS that has a 35% mortality rate or SARS with a 10% mortality and now with COVID-19 virus which we don't know yet the real mortality of the virus & also the indirect mortality, by indirect mortality I mean that people will die from things unrelated to Coronavirus because the health system is going to be overwhelmed, so if you have an accident and need treatment, a heart attack, stroke or maybe even appendicitis, you might die because you might not receive proper treatment, there won't be enough ambulances, hospital beds, doctors or the ICU might be full so doctors might decide another patient with better chances of recovery will get that ICU space you need.

Re: COVID-19

By kingjaime - 02-04-2020 14:07

[BVB]

Credible source, a retired professor of pathology, has some interesting views, more balanced than either the "Lock us all down before we all die" or the "This is the final steps for the New World Order, 5G, marshal law!" ends of the spectrum: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-thinkCredible source, a retired professor of pathology, has some interesting views, more balanced than either the "Lock us all down before we all die" or the "This is the final steps for the New World Order, 5G, marshal law!" ends of the spectrum:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think

Re: COVID-19

By lukaszsz182 (RA) (NCA) - 02-04-2020 15:47

[POLSKA]

Have to agree this 5G is a disaster. Who invented this want people to get sick. The radiation because of this crazy 5G is mad. Did any one even know who bad the wifi is itself? but 5g it's like 100 times worse. I would recommend people not to get this. With covid I have to say it's peoples fault the whole europe got it from Italy but they were still travelling there, schools on mid terms break etc, shame on parents who still let thei children go to Iraly on the mid term break while the virus was there already ! No brain at all ! Now people need to be locked down, no jobs, only markets opened so we won't starv to death. All mechanical shopes closed, car shops etc because of stupid people who had to travell there and ignore the serious situation ! [color=blue]Edited- Swearing or implied swearing isn’t allowed in the forum /chucky06[/color]Have to agree this 5G is a disaster. Who invented this want people to get sick. The radiation because of this crazy 5G is mad. Did any one even know who bad the wifi is itself? but 5g it's like 100 times worse. I would recommend people not to get this.

With covid I have to say it's peoples fault the whole europe got it from Italy but they were still travelling there, schools on mid terms break etc, shame on parents who still let thei children go to Iraly on the mid term break while the virus was there already ! No brain at all ! Now people need to be locked down, no jobs, only markets opened so we won't starv to death.

All mechanical shopes closed, car shops etc because of stupid people who had to travell there and ignore the serious situation !

Edited- Swearing or implied swearing isn’t allowed in the forum
/chucky06

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Re: COVID-19

By darkline - 02-04-2020 15:54

[FLUSA]
President

Is not just the dead rate, two of the most important differences, with flu, 1 person in average pass it to 1.4 person, after 10 itinerancies of the virus that person passed the flu to 14 people, with coronavirus each person pass it to 3 persons in average, 10 itinerancies of contagion and instead of the 14 you'd get with flu, you'd have 59.000 people with the virus... which is why it was so hard to control & isolate in the first place. The 2nd most important difference is that 20% of the people that contracts coronavirus will end up on a hospital needing treatment, when the health system colapses and new patients can't get treatment is when the mortality spikes, which is the reason why Spain has 7.1% mortality rate and Italy 9.9%, also Iran which I guess doesn't have a great health system has a mortality rate of 7.8%.... unfortunately, the UK doesn't have a health system as good as Spain or Italy, we have about 1/3 of the hospital beds and equipment they have, hopefully I'm wrong but I expect the situation to be even worse than in those Countries.

kingjaime wrote:

Credible source, a retired professor of pathology, has some interesting views, more balanced than either the "Lock us all down before we all die" or the "This is the final steps for the New World Order, 5G, marshal law!" ends of the spectrum:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think

Is not just the dead rate, two of the most important differences, with flu, 1 person in average pass it to 1.4 person, after 10 itinerancies of the virus that person passed the flu to 14 people, with coronavirus each person pass it to 3 persons in average, 10 itinerancies of contagion and instead of the 14 you'd get with flu, you'd have 59.000 people with the virus... which is why it was so hard to control & isolate in the first place.

The 2nd most important difference is that 20% of the people that contracts coronavirus will end up on a hospital needing treatment, when the health system colapses and new patients can't get treatment is when the mortality spikes, which is the reason why Spain has 7.1% mortality rate and Italy 9.9%, also Iran which I guess doesn't have a great health system has a mortality rate of 7.8%.... unfortunately, the UK doesn't have a health system as good as Spain or Italy, we have about 1/3 of the hospital beds and equipment they have, hopefully I'm wrong but I expect the situation to be even worse than in those Countries.

Re: COVID-19

By smaakeloos - 02-04-2020 16:36

The interesting point you raise is whether you should leave statistics to medical professionals. This is not about semantics and how contageous and lethal this new virus will turn out to be 'exactly', but all about what strain it is putting on healthcare systems around the world. It's still mind boggling how people keep looking for things to match their political views. Sign of the times sadly. Open your eyes and look at the hard evidence that really matters and is already here for all to see: how hospitals in many different places are struggling and working on their limits, and beyond. A little less support for your political favourites and a little more support for your healthcare workers would be much appreciated.

kingjaime wrote:

Credible source, a retired professor of pathology, has some interesting views, more balanced than either the "Lock us all down before we all die" or the "This is the final steps for the New World Order, 5G, marshal law!" ends of the spectrum:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think

The interesting point you raise is whether you should leave statistics to medical professionals. This is not about semantics and how contageous and lethal this new virus will turn out to be 'exactly', but all about what strain it is putting on healthcare systems around the world. It's still mind boggling how people keep looking for things to match their political views. Sign of the times sadly. Open your eyes and look at the hard evidence that really matters and is already here for all to see: how hospitals in many different places are struggling and working on their limits, and beyond. A little less support for your political favourites and a little more support for your healthcare workers would be much appreciated.

Re: COVID-19

By kingjaime - 02-04-2020 20:01

[BVB]

[b]@darkline[/b], I'm not saying the views expressed are completely beyond reproach/critique, but there's a fair few that at least deserve contemplation. With what you raise about the medical system strains, isn't it worth a thought: There is every chance a number of people have already had some form of the virus, and simply followed usual habits of either (a) pushing through and carrying on their work and life or (b) stayed home sick. Especially given how contagious it can be. Isn't it also worth a thought that if the risk of death is significantly higher for those in a "vulnerable group" (over 60 and/or with underlying health conditions), that it's people in those groups who should be advised towards "lockdown" lifestyle for the time being? Especially when you also at least consider the long-term mental health effects on humans, especially those at minimal realistic risk of infection and/or those who even if they do pick up the infection are at minimal risk of death, from living lives in effective house-arrest. I wouldn't say there's much debate for most people that it's not healthy to spend almost all your time indoors, alone if you don't live with someone else, potentially unemployed with no income but still living costs to meet, no real consistent physical outlet (workout in your home, one period of exercise outside), product shortages and stress about going shopping... [b]@smaakeloos[/b], Your post is a bit of headache since it basically reads like it's a response to a totally different article. It's not a question of who produces the statistics, it's a question of (1) the basis of how they're recorded and (2) interpretation. The chap who authored the article is making some points about how they're recorded, especially how the "cause" is decided/recorded, how that can differ from country to country, and so why there might be some other explanation for the apparent disparity in death rates than just "quality of medical care and/or coping methods (such as how soon and how harshly lockdown protocols were implemented)". People outside the vulnerable groups will in the vast majority not need to attend hospital and put any strain on the system, they will self-isolate at home. If you read the article properly, the man is not making a case for "Don't worry about it, it's all fine", it's more balanced than that. Special credit for the parts which I can't even find some vague basis for: Runner Up: Some part of the article or my comments brief intro to it which infers a lack of support for healthcare workers. Winner: Everything you said about "politics". Things to match political views... Support for my "political favourites"... Where does politics come into the article or what I wrote about it? If the corona virus was known to detrimentally affect a person's ability to demonstrate any understanding of an opinion and/or present a cogent (or even coherent) response to it, I would suggest you skip testing as utterly redundant, and instead go straight into isolation or treatment :)@darkline, I'm not saying the views expressed are completely beyond reproach/critique, but there's a fair few that at least deserve contemplation. With what you raise about the medical system strains, isn't it worth a thought: There is every chance a number of people have already had some form of the virus, and simply followed usual habits of either (a) pushing through and carrying on their work and life or (b) stayed home sick. Especially given how contagious it can be. Isn't it also worth a thought that if the risk of death is significantly higher for those in a "vulnerable group" (over 60 and/or with underlying health conditions), that it's people in those groups who should be advised towards "lockdown" lifestyle for the time being? Especially when you also at least consider the long-term mental health effects on humans, especially those at minimal realistic risk of infection and/or those who even if they do pick up the infection are at minimal risk of death, from living lives in effective house-arrest. I wouldn't say there's much debate for most people that it's not healthy to spend almost all your time indoors, alone if you don't live with someone else, potentially unemployed with no income but still living costs to meet, no real consistent physical outlet (workout in your home, one period of exercise outside), product shortages and stress about going shopping...

@smaakeloos, Your post is a bit of headache since it basically reads like it's a response to a totally different article. It's not a question of who produces the statistics, it's a question of (1) the basis of how they're recorded and (2) interpretation. The chap who authored the article is making some points about how they're recorded, especially how the "cause" is decided/recorded, how that can differ from country to country, and so why there might be some other explanation for the apparent disparity in death rates than just "quality of medical care and/or coping methods (such as how soon and how harshly lockdown protocols were implemented)". People outside the vulnerable groups will in the vast majority not need to attend hospital and put any strain on the system, they will self-isolate at home.
If you read the article properly, the man is not making a case for "Don't worry about it, it's all fine", it's more balanced than that.
Special credit for the parts which I can't even find some vague basis for:
Runner Up: Some part of the article or my comments brief intro to it which infers a lack of support for healthcare workers.
Winner: Everything you said about "politics". Things to match political views... Support for my "political favourites"... Where does politics come into the article or what I wrote about it?
If the corona virus was known to detrimentally affect a person's ability to demonstrate any understanding of an opinion and/or present a cogent (or even coherent) response to it, I would suggest you skip testing as utterly redundant, and instead go straight into isolation or treatment :)

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 02-04-2020 21:37

If the corona virus was so bad they would have stopped all flights from China when the crisis first begun. But you have flights still happening today. I'm not here acting like I know everything, I just want people to do some research, use their common sense. Whats happening is not wright. Viruses are not even what they tell us to be, they are not even alive. Whats happening now with this is wealth redistribution, Probably want to crash the economy and blame it on the virus. Every country in the wold is in debt. Who knows, they are social engineering us. I mean what is social distancing supposed to do? Nothing makes sense.

lukaszsz182 wrote:

With covid I have to say it's peoples fault the whole europe got it from Italy but they were still travelling there, schools on mid terms break etc, shame on parents who still let thei children go to Iraly on the mid term break while the virus was there already ! No brain at all ! Now people need to be locked down, no jobs, only markets opened so we won't starv to death.

If the corona virus was so bad they would have stopped all flights from China when the crisis first begun. But you have flights still happening today. I'm not here acting like I know everything, I just want people to do some research, use their common sense. Whats happening is not wright. Viruses are not even what they tell us to be, they are not even alive. Whats happening now with this is wealth redistribution, Probably want to crash the economy and blame it on the virus. Every country in the wold is in debt. Who knows, they are social engineering us. I mean what is social distancing supposed to do? Nothing makes sense.

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 02-04-2020 21:42

https://fsi.stanford.edu/news/coronavirus-deadly-they-say https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387https://fsi.stanford.edu/news/coronavirus-deadly-they-say

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 02-04-2020 21:50

this video is gonna bow your mind. https://youtu.be/fWVgDLDNp5wthis video is gonna bow your mind.

https://youtu.be/fWVgDLDNp5w

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 02-04-2020 23:33

https://youtu.be/4A4svs8LJeY https://youtu.be/K0z8NhxNTaU https://youtu.be/IZeF43SN1AQ https://youtu.be/pqS-mconfQc https://youtu.be/WVTBabRLJ-Uhttps://youtu.be/4A4svs8LJeY

https://youtu.be/K0z8NhxNTaU

https://youtu.be/IZeF43SN1AQ

https://youtu.be/pqS-mconfQc

https://youtu.be/WVTBabRLJ-U

Re: COVID-19

By darkline - 03-04-2020 00:00

[FLUSA]
President

@kingjaime I actually have the solution to the problem of how to keep the virus controlled without having to quarantine the population, no idea why no one thought of it. Basically, just make it mandatory to use a mask when you go outside, any type of crappy mask will do and the government should distribute them for free, what is a poor quality mask good for? Is not good to prevent you from catching the virus as it won't filter much, but it will prevent you from spreading the virus to other people if you already have it, if you talk spitting, cough, sneeze, the saliva droplets won't go far if you have a mask on your face and also, it will prevent people from touching their mouth and nose.... did I get something wrong? Because that's what WHO said the masks you get at ebay are good for, it just seems like something very simple to implement that at least along with other measures, would allow people to carry on with at least some measure of normality, I keep thinking that there must be a flaw in my logic because otherwise governments would have thought of this, but I just can't find the flaw.@kingjaime

I actually have the solution to the problem of how to keep the virus controlled without having to quarantine the population, no idea why no one thought of it. Basically, just make it mandatory to use a mask when you go outside, any type of crappy mask will do and the government should distribute them for free, what is a poor quality mask good for? Is not good to prevent you from catching the virus as it won't filter much, but it will prevent you from spreading the virus to other people if you already have it, if you talk spitting, cough, sneeze, the saliva droplets won't go far if you have a mask on your face and also, it will prevent people from touching their mouth and nose.... did I get something wrong? Because that's what WHO said the masks you get at ebay are good for, it just seems like something very simple to implement that at least along with other measures, would allow people to carry on with at least some measure of normality, I keep thinking that there must be a flaw in my logic because otherwise governments would have thought of this, but I just can't find the flaw.

Re: COVID-19

By darkline - 03-04-2020 00:05

[FLUSA]
President

That's easy to respond, unfortunately there some people that despite the evidence to the contrary, think this is no worst than a simple cold or flu, I certainly know one or two people that think like that.... that's the reason Trump took forever to react, why Boris Johnson took so long and why Bolsonaro in Brazil still doesn't take any measures and unfortunately, the price to pay is human lifes and a worse hit to the economy as it will take longer to get back to some meassure of normality.

albeagle wrote:

If the corona virus was so bad they would have stopped all flights from China when the crisis first begun.

That's easy to respond, unfortunately there some people that despite the evidence to the contrary, think this is no worst than a simple cold or flu, I certainly know one or two people that think like that.... that's the reason Trump took forever to react, why Boris Johnson took so long and why Bolsonaro in Brazil still doesn't take any measures and unfortunately, the price to pay is human lifes and a worse hit to the economy as it will take longer to get back to some meassure of normality.

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 03-04-2020 21:26

Its pointless arguing, I can show you all the evidence in the world that this is overblown and you'll never believe it. It is just a flue. Go do some investigating youself. Go see for yourself hospitals in your area. The ones that the media is saying are overflowing with people see if it looks like they say or is it just another day in the office. People are doing just that all over the world, and you can see just go on youtube, or social media where they show the hospitals are empty. Here you can see what the media is doing. They are suing footage from Italian hospital and saying its NY. You might say its a one tome thing, but I've been aware of these things for a long time and I can tell you it happens a lot. https://youtu.be/aTi5giEX1ag

darkline wrote:

That's easy to respond, unfortunately there some people that despite the evidence to the contrary, think this is no worst than a simple cold or flu, I certainly know one or two people that think like that.... that's the reason Trump took forever to react, why Boris Johnson took so long and why Bolsonaro in Brazil still doesn't take any measures and unfortunately, the price to pay is human lifes and a worse hit to the economy as it will take longer to get back to some meassure of normality.

Its pointless arguing, I can show you all the evidence in the world that this is overblown and you'll never believe it. It is just a flue. Go do some investigating youself. Go see for yourself hospitals in your area. The ones that the media is saying are overflowing with people see if it looks like they say or is it just another day in the office. People are doing just that all over the world, and you can see just go on youtube, or social media where they show the hospitals are empty.

Here you can see what the media is doing. They are suing footage from Italian hospital and saying its NY. You might say its a one tome thing, but I've been aware of these things for a long time and I can tell you it happens a lot.

https://youtu.be/aTi5giEX1ag

Re: COVID-19

By darkline - 03-04-2020 22:12

[FLUSA]
President

Youtube.... why don't you just go to your local hospital, check it yourself and film it so you can convince us all? I mean, if it's a simple flu there's no risk in walking around a hospital and according to you, you'll probably walk into an empty Hospital and the doctors will just be bored playing xbox games with the nurses....Youtube.... why don't you just go to your local hospital, check it yourself and film it so you can convince us all? I mean, if it's a simple flu there's no risk in walking around a hospital and according to you, you'll probably walk into an empty Hospital and the doctors will just be bored playing xbox games with the nurses....

Re: COVID-19

By albeagle - 03-04-2020 22:33

It is just a flu, I live in CT bordering NY which is supposedly one of the states where the virus is spread the most. I see nothing going on only paranoid people with masks. All my neighbors are fine. I have family In Italy, Greece, England they are all ok, just scared because they believe the media. I have a coworker who told me his nephew had the virus and survived it. The symptoms he was describing were flu symptoms, only more dramatized because the media told them that is a deadly virus, and its all in their head. I work 5 days a week, I don't wash my hands 10 times a day, I do just what I usually do, I don't fear it. And I feel as good as ever. I'v driven by one of the hospitals haven't seen anything, might just make a video. All am saying is investigate yourself don't believe anyone, use your senses. Im not downplaying this, I care about the world. If it was real I would never say something stupid like this. But its not real, and people need to wake up, The world will never be the same if we don't do anything about it.

darkline wrote:

Youtube.... why don't you just go to your local hospital, check it yourself and film it so you can convince us all? I mean, if it's a simple flu there's no risk in walking around a hospital and according to you, you'll probably walk into an empty Hospital and the doctors will just be bored playing xbox games with the nurses....

It is just a flu, I live in CT bordering NY which is supposedly one of the states where the virus is spread the most. I see nothing going on only paranoid people with masks. All my neighbors are fine. I have family In Italy, Greece, England they are all ok, just scared because they believe the media. I have a coworker who told me his nephew had the virus and survived it. The symptoms he was describing were flu symptoms, only more dramatized because the media told them that is a deadly virus, and its all in their head. I work 5 days a week, I don't wash my hands 10 times a day, I do just what I usually do, I don't fear it. And I feel as good as ever. I'v driven by one of the hospitals haven't seen anything, might just make a video. All am saying is investigate yourself don't believe anyone, use your senses. Im not downplaying this, I care about the world. If it was real I would never say something stupid like this. But its not real, and people need to wake up, The world will never be the same if we don't do anything about it.

Re: COVID-19

By manhackerjr - 04-04-2020 13:22

[TDF]

Someone needs a huge wake-up-call...or just a high five in the face with a chair. (Yes, I'm referring to you)

albeagle wrote:

...

Someone needs a huge wake-up-call...or just a high five in the face with a chair. (Yes, I'm referring to you)

Re: COVID-19

By maria171 - 04-04-2020 17:02

[MAS]
President

He must be fun at parties. 🧟‍♀️😌

manhackerjr wrote:

Someone needs a huge wake-up-call...or just a high five in the face with a chair. (Yes, I'm referring to you)

He must be fun at parties. 🧟‍♀️😌

 

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