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Power tokens should also be purchased with game money

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In order to add more value to the money used in the club finance, power tokens should also be purchased with “game money”. This will ensure that many users are encouraged to become club membership. #crew
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People paying “real money” to purchase memberships and PT’s is how the game survives. Without income to the crew and game developers the game would die.

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chucky06 wrote:
People paying “real money” to purchase memberships and PT’s is how the game survives. Without income to the crew and game developers the game would die.


I'm sorry to say but the game fells like it's in a coma already.
Without any big changes, it will probably die out.

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chucky06 wrote:
People paying “real money” to purchase memberships and PT’s is how the game survives. Without income to the crew and game developers the game would die.


I agree, but with that we expect innovation. Especially if we haven't seen much change for years on end.

I feel there is very little incentive to buy Power Tokens as there are many things that need updating/changing.

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There’s a lot of incentive to buy power tokens. If you aren’t a club member you’re always going to struggle to compete with the best teams

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chucky06 wrote:
There’s a lot of incentive to buy power tokens. If you aren’t a club member you’re always going to struggle to compete with the best teams


I would disagree. I used to buy Power Tokens but I don't think the game gives me enough back to merit my money.

It's too repetitive of a game to be investing hard earned money just to be 'the best', I don't feel like I'm having much fun as it's basically a LOG IN >> REPEAT ACTIONS >> LOG OUT.

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I don't feel like I'm having much fun as it's basically a LOG IN >> REPEAT ACTIONS >> LOG OUT.

That's why I disagree with the idea suggested in the thread Transfers, they will become too repetitive.

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chucky06 wrote:
There’s a lot of incentive to buy power tokens. If you aren’t a club member you’re always going to struggle to compete with the best teams


I'm sorry, but that's the definition of "pay to win".
It's clear that this game will only change when all old loyal players will stop paying, and instead demand a change first.
Until then, we can write as much as we want in the suggestion section. No one will actually care as long as money comes in, because you are paying to win, and not enhance your experience.

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You have a clear advantage if you pay yes, but that’s how modern day games work. You pay for extra lives/expansion packs/upgrades etc. it’s just in line with all games.

I’m just like everyone else in the sense that the game needs to offer more and the crew need to be making more changes and listening to its members more. This thread is about power tokens being able to be bought with team money and that should always be an absolute no

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@CHUCKY06

What are the incentives to buy power tokens? I want to see what you see as an incentive. Like @rcostel - it might be tied with the idea of 'pay to win' and not everyone plays the game for that.

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Typically you’d spend most power tokens on club membership.
It’s benefits allow you to see training graphs which is a huge advantage. Play in all official cups for free, get 15 free scout matches a month and more but they are the main advantages.

If you’re talking about incentives though to buy them, well I think it’s if you want to be good at the game and take your team as far as possible. If you’re happy just playing for fun, having some minor success and winning a few lower leagues that’s what non-membership is I guess. Any serious manager really needs to invest real money into their team

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Chucky, I would be happier to pay for a club membership (which truly does give you few advantages over others, in a game that is alive and packed with people.
I'll consider twice if I'll buy membership again in 6 months time, if i will still be here...

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chucky06 wrote:
Typically you’d spend most power tokens on club membership.
It’s benefits allow you to see training graphs which is a huge advantage. Play in all official cups for free, get 15 free scout matches a month and more but they are the main advantages.

If you’re talking about incentives though to buy them, well I think it’s if you want to be good at the game and take your team as far as possible. If you’re happy just playing for fun, having some minor success and winning a few lower leagues that’s what non-membership is I guess. Any serious manager really needs to invest real money into their team


So essentially... pay to win. Now if I'm 14 years old who cannot invest any money into the game, do I not deserve a route of getting to the top, in a realistic manner?

There needs to be more incentive of just 'winning'. It then eliminates the casual players who are trying to get away from work/school/family for a few hours.

It's why the community of players hasn't grown in 10 years, I would say.

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It’s essentially a game that you get out what you put in. You can still be a casual manager and have a good team and depending on the country your from a lot of success domestically. You’d probably need use assistant tools like mzmanager (not sure what’s used these days) to track your training and keep player maxings. You’d need to GB sellers and ask for player maxings. All old school stuff everyone used to do.

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chucky06 wrote:
It’s essentially a game that you get out what you put in. You can still be a casual manager and have a good team and depending on the country your from a lot of success domestically. You’d probably need use assistant tools like mzmanager (not sure what’s used these days) to track your training and keep player maxings. You’d need to GB sellers and ask for player maxings. All old school stuff everyone used to do.


I would argue, that many people don't find that enough. It's a football manager game and there are many different aspects to football which I believe they should look into. Otherwise it just becomes a LOG IN >>> REPEAT ACTIONS >>> LOG OUT action

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Have you ever been a club member? I don’t think you can really justify your reasoning if you haven’t.

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chucky06 wrote:
Have you ever been a club member? I don’t think you can really justify your reasoning if you haven’t.


I have. I don't see the value of becoming one again to be honest with you.

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chucky06 wrote:
You have a clear advantage if you pay yes, but that’s how modern day games work. You pay for extra lives/expansion packs/upgrades etc. it’s just in line with all games.

I’m just like everyone else in the sense that the game needs to offer more and the crew need to be making more changes and listening to its members more. This thread is about power tokens being able to be bought with team money and that should always be an absolute no


But the benefits could be extended and allow the use of PT in other scenarios.
More uses could be added to PTs, such as:

1) Purchase a second boot camp exchange package.
2) Pay the value of the Training Camps of players between 19 to 21 years with PT (with a table of relation of PT with the currency of the game.)
3) Use PT in the players market (with a defined table of values and appropriate restrictions).

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marcelo433 wrote:
But the benefits could be extended and allow the use of PT in other scenarios.
More uses could be added to PTs, such as:

1) Purchase a second boot camp exchange package.
2) Pay the value of the Training Camps of players between 19 to 21 years with PT (with a table of relation of PT with the currency of the game.)
3) Use PT in the players market (with a defined table of values and appropriate restrictions).


I think they would all make the game further “pay to win”. Buying players should never be able to be done with real money and that’s essentially what power tokens are.

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Guys, I understand your sentiments and amen to that.

Thing is: apart from the good old crew earning money, maintaining a site like this too requires money. So it is a desideratum for crew to make things this way.

However, I feel the best solution that can compromise both sides is through ads.

That's right. Bring back sponsorpay, superrewards, and other derivatives.

If we can contribute by indulging in third-party stuff like completing surveys, watching a 30-second ad video, downloading a whacko mobile app and then deleting it, etc.. I reckon we can thrive!

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mayunga wrote:
So essentially... pay to win. Now if I'm 14 years old who cannot invest any money into the game, do I not deserve a route of getting to the top, in a realistic manner?

There needs to be more incentive of just 'winning'. It then eliminates the casual players who are trying to get away from work/school/family for a few hours.

It's why the community of players hasn't grown in 10 years, I would say.


This is very true man. I started playing the game when I was in my early teens; I had no money, no credit card, nothing.... It was a nightmare managing my team and naively dreaming of taking it far.

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I agree with martinsen on the ads. We need companies investing money in the game. If you can tell me how much it costs to put ads on this website maybe I can found somebody willing to pay for it.

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Makes this possible!
 
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