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Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By rudzov (NCA) - 13-12-2019 18:56

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2019-12-03 in the news there was a message about the addition of individual awards, which will be transferred to managers when the Federations League No. 13 ends. [b]"Before the end of the Federation League, you need to earn as many points as possible. For the points earned, you can get Credits"[/b], [u]which gave an additional incentive and interest in participating in the League of Federations No. 13. As a result, the activity of managers and the number of participants in the pools of the League of Federations increased.[/u] [b]Now this condition has been changed: instead of Credits, it is offered to get Scout matches.[/b] [u]This forgery discredits developers. As a result, the activity of managers has decreased and the number of participants in the pools of the Federation League is falling.[/u] All managers participate in this game based on the desire to achieve their goals and achieve success, which supports the interest in the game. During this process, managers use the terms and conditions of the game. When conditions and rules change during the game, trust falls, which undermines the foundations of the game and interest. [u]This demeans the game more than any other factors of falling interest.[/u] Trust is based on the fulfillment of promises. Who fulfills promises, raises its credibility and trust. [b]Developers need to return the original condition for the addition of individual awards: "for points earned, you can get Credits"[/b]. [u]This will raise the credibility of developers, managers ' activity and interest in participating in the League of Federations. Otherwise, distrust will increase and interest in the game will greatly decrease among many managers.[/u] Russian managers have already written letters to support and developers. [u]Now it's Up to you.[/u] [b]Propose a all managers not simply discuss this subject, and write in support and developers about return initial conditions about adding individual rewards: "For earned lens can be will obtain Credits".[/b] With respect rudzov!2019-12-03 in the news there was a message about the addition of individual awards, which will be transferred to managers when the Federations League No. 13 ends.
"Before the end of the Federation League, you need to earn as many points as possible. For the points earned, you can get Credits", which gave an additional incentive and interest in participating in the League of Federations No. 13. As a result, the activity of managers and the number of participants in the pools of the League of Federations increased.

Now this condition has been changed: instead of Credits, it is offered to get Scout matches.
This forgery discredits developers.
As a result, the activity of managers has decreased and the number of participants in the pools of the Federation League is falling.

All managers participate in this game based on the desire to achieve their goals and achieve success, which supports the interest in the game. During this process, managers use the terms and conditions of the game. When conditions and rules change during the game, trust falls, which undermines the foundations of the game and interest. This demeans the game more than any other factors of falling interest.

Trust is based on the fulfillment of promises. Who fulfills promises, raises its credibility and trust.

Developers need to return the original condition for the addition of individual awards: "for points earned, you can get Credits". This will raise the credibility of developers, managers ' activity and interest in participating in the League of Federations.
Otherwise, distrust will increase and interest in the game will greatly decrease among many managers.

Russian managers have already written letters to support and developers. Now it's Up to you.
Propose a all managers not simply discuss this subject, and write in support and developers about return initial conditions about adding individual rewards: "For earned lens can be will obtain Credits".

With respect rudzov!

 

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By manekaster - 14-12-2019 00:46

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The prize is «Instant Match Credits» (IMC). If the text said "credits" earlier, it referred to IMC. IMC = free scout matches and challenges.The prize is «Instant Match Credits» (IMC). If the text said "credits" earlier, it referred to IMC. IMC = free scout matches and challenges.

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By manekaster - 14-12-2019 00:52

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Credits ≠ Power tokens. But I have to make clear that that I didn't read the initial texts.Credits ≠ Power tokens.

But I have to make clear that that I didn't read the initial texts.

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By rudzov (NCA) - 14-12-2019 00:58

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There was no such interpretation - "instant match credits" (IMC). Specifically it was written: After the completion of the League of federations 13 who scored a certain number of points will receive the following awards from the League of Federations: for 20-29 points: + 1 Loyal Player + 10 Credits + An Emerald Sign Milestones for 30-49 points: + 2 Loyal Players + 15 Credits + Purple Milestone Icon for 50 points or more: + 3 Loyal Players + 20 Credits + Black Milestone Icon That's how it was written. And no Scout match was mentioned.There was no such interpretation - "instant match credits" (IMC). Specifically it was written:

After the completion of the League of federations 13 who scored a certain number of points will receive the following awards from the League of Federations:

for 20-29 points:
+ 1 Loyal Player
+ 10 Credits
+ An Emerald Sign Milestones

for 30-49 points:
+ 2 Loyal Players
+ 15 Credits
+ Purple Milestone Icon

for 50 points or more:
+ 3 Loyal Players
+ 20 Credits
+ Black Milestone Icon

That's how it was written. And no Scout match was mentioned.

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By manekaster - 14-12-2019 05:14

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Credits = Instant match credits. I guess they changed it to avoid confusion. May I ask what you think/thought credits are? The only thing I can think of is match credits. They're certainly not Power Tokens :)Credits = Instant match credits. I guess they changed it to avoid confusion. May I ask what you think/thought credits are? The only thing I can think of is match credits. They're certainly not Power Tokens :)

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By chucky06 - 14-12-2019 05:28

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Power tokens are never called “credits” they are always referred to as PT’s or Power Tokens. There never was a promise of power tokens. I think you need to get your information correct before throwing accusations around about the game or crew.Power tokens are never called “credits” they are always referred to as PT’s or Power Tokens. There never was a promise of power tokens.

I think you need to get your information correct before throwing accusations around about the game or crew.

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By rudzov (NCA) - 14-12-2019 11:12

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[b]Just in the Russian zone, power tokens are called "credits", and not always credits are called PT or power tokens.[/b] [u]Credits = power tokens (PT)[/u]. [b]2019-12-03 there were promises of power tokens (credits).They changed it to not give away power tokens.[/b] [u]I'm giving you the right information. Here is an example screenshot of the prizes for places in the Cup U21 Knockout Cup [Bounty]: http://prntscr.com/qapayi[/u]

manekaster wrote:

Credits = Instant match credits. I guess they changed it to avoid confusion. May I ask what you think/thought credits are? The only thing I can think of is match credits. They're certainly not Power Tokens :)

chucky06 wrote:

Power tokens are never called “credits” they are always referred to as PT’s or Power Tokens. There never was a promise of power tokens.

I think you need to get your information correct before throwing accusations around about the game or crew.

Just in the Russian zone, power tokens are called "credits", and not always credits are called PT or power tokens.
Credits = power tokens (PT).

2019-12-03 there were promises of power tokens (credits).They changed it to not give away power tokens.

I'm giving you the right information. Here is an example screenshot of the prizes for places in the Cup U21 Knockout Cup [Bounty]: http://prntscr.com/qapayi

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By evosa - 14-12-2019 13:27

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Correct me if I am wrong but...As I understand a bit russian and to me it seems tokens have a wrong translation..shouldn't "token" be translated as "жетон" in russian? So it would be little bit more accurate translation? Exactly to avoid these type of situations?

rudzov wrote:

I'm giving you the right information. Here is an example screenshot of the prizes for places in the Cup U21 Knockout Cup [Bounty]: http://prntscr.com/qapayi

Correct me if I am wrong but...As I understand a bit russian and to me it seems tokens have a wrong translation..shouldn't "token" be translated as "жетон" in russian? So it would be little bit more accurate translation? Exactly to avoid these type of situations?

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By chucky06 - 14-12-2019 13:56

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So you’re talking about reference to credits being power tokens in a magazine written not by the crew but other managers of the community and calling crew out on that? That makes no sense at all to me.

rudzov wrote:

Just in the Russian zone, power tokens are called "credits", and not always credits are called PT or power tokens.
Credits = power tokens (PT).

2019-12-03 there were promises of power tokens (credits).They changed it to not give away power tokens.

I'm giving you the right information. Here is an example screenshot of the prizes for places in the Cup U21 Knockout Cup [Bounty]: http://prntscr.com/qapayi

So you’re talking about reference to credits being power tokens in a magazine written not by the crew but other managers of the community and calling crew out on that? That makes no sense at all to me.

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By rudzov (NCA) - 14-12-2019 17:27

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On forum / hockey:On forum / hockey:

leksev wrote:

.. completely agree with the "rudzov" that initially the announcement said about adding credits to the earned points. This is why I began to participate in 3 pools of League of Federations 13, considering it a good way to improve my team budget, for which I spent 6 tokens. But after changing the rules for scoring points - I consider myself deceived, since under such conditions I would not participate in this event. I demand from the developers to return the previous conditions for rewarding points for participating in the "League of Federations 13", or return to me the tokens spent. If developers ignore my requirements, I refuse to participate in further such competitions, and when repeating such situations - specifically in the Managerzone Zone!
P.S. "I am for fair play and fair refereeing! To all participants in the competition, Greetings!

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By rudzov (NCA) - 14-12-2019 18:08

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Credits = power tokens (PT)="a token". You can call it in different ways - this is what we buy in mzstore, and pay for them with real money. It turns out that "after me the grass does not grow," what will be will be? One more time: The developers changed the initial conditions for receiving awards when the tour was in the middle of the road. Based on the initial proposal, many managers began to participate in the Federation League. The point is to confront injustice: And to confront injustice need to have courage and courage. Even if nothing comes of these protests developers will see that their actions do not go unnoticed and without a trace. This will play a role in the future. At least for the sake of it it is worth acting and writing about what is happening.

evosa wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong but...As I understand a bit russian and to me it seems tokens have a wrong translation..shouldn't "token" be translated as "жетон" in russian? So it would be little bit more accurate translation? Exactly to avoid these type of situations?

Credits = power tokens (PT)="a token". You can call it in different ways - this is what we buy in mzstore, and pay for them with real money.

It turns out that "after me the grass does not grow," what will be will be?

One more time:
The developers changed the initial conditions for receiving awards when the tour was in the middle of the road. Based on the initial proposal, many managers began to participate in the Federation League.

The point is to confront injustice:
And to confront injustice need to have courage and courage.

Even if nothing comes of these protests developers will see that their actions do not go unnoticed and without a trace. This will play a role in the future. At least for the sake of it it is worth acting and writing about what is happening.

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By chucky06 - 15-12-2019 07:16

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No, when you say you can call it whatever you like you lose your whole argument. You’re starting fires without any facts. Power tokens are power tokens and credits are match credits. It was never stipulated anywhere power tokens. I’m really not sure what you’ve so winded up about this when it’s how you interpreted the news incorrectly not you being mislead and dishonesty by the crew which you’re claiming.No, when you say you can call it whatever you like you lose your whole argument. You’re starting fires without any facts.

Power tokens are power tokens and credits are match credits. It was never stipulated anywhere power tokens. I’m really not sure what you’ve so winded up about this when it’s how you interpreted the news incorrectly not you being mislead and dishonesty by the crew which you’re claiming.

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By manekaster - 15-12-2019 17:12

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But listen here, mate. You quote a text from the English news article. Power Tokens are never called "credits" in the English speaking MZ world. Power Tokens are called PT or just tokens. What you call it in the Russian speaking MZ world doesn't really matter here, as you've quoted from the English text. Like Evosa says, you should blame the translation. Maybe you should contact your local LA, so he can update the translation.

rudzov wrote:

Just in the Russian zone, power tokens are called "credits", and not always credits are called PT or power tokens.
Credits = power tokens (PT).

2019-12-03 there were promises of power tokens (credits).They changed it to not give away power tokens.

I'm giving you the right information. Here is an example screenshot of the prizes for places in the Cup U21 Knockout Cup [Bounty]: http://prntscr.com/qapayi

rudzov wrote:

Credits = power tokens (PT)="a token". You can call it in different ways - this is what we buy in mzstore, and pay for them with real money.

It turns out that "after me the grass does not grow," what will be will be?

One more time:
The developers changed the initial conditions for receiving awards when the tour was in the middle of the road. Based on the initial proposal, many managers began to participate in the Federation League.

The point is to confront injustice:
And to confront injustice need to have courage and courage.

Even if nothing comes of these protests developers will see that their actions do not go unnoticed and without a trace. This will play a role in the future. At least for the sake of it it is worth acting and writing about what is happening.

But listen here, mate. You quote a text from the English news article. Power Tokens are never called "credits" in the English speaking MZ world. Power Tokens are called PT or just tokens.

What you call it in the Russian speaking MZ world doesn't really matter here, as you've quoted from the English text. Like Evosa says, you should blame the translation. Maybe you should contact your local LA, so he can update the translation.

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By pavel145 - 15-12-2019 18:05

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In the original of the news dated 12/03/19 it was written: "15 Instant Match Credits". I translated it as “15 Instant Matches” or “15 Scout Matches”. If I misunderstood, please correct me. Which prize is correct?In the original of the news dated 12/03/19 it was written: "15 Instant Match Credits".
I translated it as “15 Instant Matches” or “15 Scout Matches”.
If I misunderstood, please correct me. Which prize is correct?

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By manekaster - 15-12-2019 18:56

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President

Then you translated it completely correct. But maybe the word "Power Tokens" should be translated to another word than "кредиты"? To avoid confusion. Much like @Evosa's suggestion?

pavel145 wrote:

In the original of the news dated 12/03/19 it was written: "15 Instant Match Credits".
I translated it as “15 Instant Matches” or “15 Scout Matches”.
If I misunderstood, please correct me. Which prize is correct?

Then you translated it completely correct. But maybe the word "Power Tokens" should be translated to another word than "кредиты"? To avoid confusion. Much like @Evosa's suggestion?

evosa wrote:

Correct me if I am wrong but...As I understand a bit russian and to me it seems tokens have a wrong translation..shouldn't "token" be translated as "жетон" in russian? So it would be little bit more accurate translation? Exactly to avoid these type of situations?

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By pavel145 - 15-12-2019 20:36

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The fact is that in Russian ManagerZone, “tokens” on the “Shop” tab are translated as “кредиты” (as rudzov writes). And for Russian players such a name is already familiar. I can offer to translate "tokens" as "монеты" (RUS) ("coins" (ENG)).The fact is that in Russian ManagerZone, “tokens” on the “Shop” tab are translated as “кредиты” (as rudzov writes). And for Russian players such a name is already familiar.

I can offer to translate "tokens" as "монеты" (RUS) ("coins" (ENG)).

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By manekaster - 15-12-2019 21:10

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President

I can see that PT = кредиты (kredity) may cause confusion, because kredity = credits. Do whatever that makes sense in the Russian language :) монеты = monety, right? Monety means coins, and not money? (I'm asking because I'm curious). As long as there is no chance of confusing it with actual team money it should be fine :D

pavel145 wrote:

The fact is that in Russian ManagerZone, “tokens” on the “Shop” tab are translated as “кредиты” (as rudzov writes). And for Russian players such a name is already familiar.

I can offer to translate "tokens" as "монеты" (RUS) ("coins" (ENG)).

I can see that PT = кредиты (kredity) may cause confusion, because kredity = credits. Do whatever that makes sense in the Russian language :)

монеты = monety, right? Monety means coins, and not money? (I'm asking because I'm curious). As long as there is no chance of confusing it with actual team money it should be fine :D

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By rudzov (NCA) - 16-12-2019 11:50

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President

I'm the one who was misled. I give the facts: 2019-12-03 in the news there was a message about the addition of individual awards, which will be transferred to managers when the Federations League No. 13 ends. "Before the end of the Federation League, you need to earn as many points as possible. For points earned, you can get Credits." Now this condition has been changed: instead of Credits, it is offered to get Scout matches. This is fraud and forgery. That's the whole point. In the Russian zone, managers buy Loans in the MZ store for real money.

chucky06 wrote:

No, when you say you can call it whatever you like you lose your whole argument. You’re starting fires without any facts.

Power tokens are power tokens and credits are match credits. It was never stipulated anywhere power tokens. I’m really not sure what you’ve so winded up about this when it’s how you interpreted the news incorrectly not you being mislead and dishonesty by the crew which you’re claiming.

I'm the one who was misled. I give the facts:

2019-12-03 in the news there was a message about the addition of individual awards, which will be transferred to managers when the Federations League No. 13 ends.
"Before the end of the Federation League, you need to earn as many points as possible. For points earned, you can get Credits."

Now this condition has been changed: instead of Credits, it is offered to get Scout matches.
This is fraud and forgery. That's the whole point.
In the Russian zone, managers buy Loans in the MZ store for real money.

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By chucky06 - 16-12-2019 12:00

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President

No it’s not at all. I think you are kidding yourself and there was never any mention of power tokens. I’m not sure how you come to understand that. Speak with your LA and get better clarity and translation before making such allegations in future.No it’s not at all. I think you are kidding yourself and there was never any mention of power tokens. I’m not sure how you come to understand that.

Speak with your LA and get better clarity and translation before making such allegations in future.

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By rudzov (NCA) - 16-12-2019 12:42

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President

Я себя не обманываю. У нас 2019-12-03 в новостях было сообщение о добавлении индивидуальных наград, которые будут переданы менеджерам когда закончится Лига Федераций №13. «До завершения Лиги Федераций нужно заработать как можно больше очков. За заработанные очки можно будет получить Кредиты» за 20-29 очков: + 1 Лояльный Игрок + 10 Кредитов + Изумрудный Знак Вехи Сейчас это условие изменили: вместо Кредитов (Power Tokens) предлагается получить Скаут-матчы: за 20-29 очков: + 1 Лояльный Игрок + 10 Скаут-матчей + Изумрудный Знак Вехи В российской зоне менеджеры покупают кредиты (Power Tokens) в MZstore за реальные деньги. Чтобы было понятно скриншот для примера на русском и английском: на русском http://prntscr.com/qbhemy и http://prntscr.com/qbhe5k, на английском http://prntscr.com/qbhd81 и http://prntscr.com/qbhdra Я писал в поддержку и получил ответ: "Уважаемый пользователь. Предложения об изменениях призов в Лиге Федераций, так же как и призов в остальных соревнованиях, не относится к компетенции службы поддержки. Размещать свои предложения оптимально на форуме в разделе English » Suggestions/Improvements"

chucky06 wrote:

No it’s not at all. I think you are kidding yourself and there was never any mention of power tokens. I’m not sure how you come to understand that.

Speak with your LA and get better clarity and translation before making such allegations in future.

Я себя не обманываю. У нас 2019-12-03 в новостях было сообщение о добавлении индивидуальных наград, которые будут переданы менеджерам когда закончится Лига Федераций №13.
«До завершения Лиги Федераций нужно заработать как можно больше очков. За заработанные очки можно будет получить Кредиты»
за 20-29 очков:
+ 1 Лояльный Игрок
+ 10 Кредитов
+ Изумрудный Знак Вехи

Сейчас это условие изменили: вместо Кредитов (Power Tokens) предлагается получить Скаут-матчы:
за 20-29 очков:
+ 1 Лояльный Игрок
+ 10 Скаут-матчей
+ Изумрудный Знак Вехи
В российской зоне менеджеры покупают кредиты (Power Tokens) в MZstore за реальные деньги.
Чтобы было понятно скриншот для примера на русском и английском:
на русском http://prntscr.com/qbhemy и http://prntscr.com/qbhe5k,
на английском http://prntscr.com/qbhd81 и http://prntscr.com/qbhdra

Я писал в поддержку и получил ответ:
"Уважаемый пользователь. Предложения об изменениях призов в Лиге Федераций, так же как и призов в остальных соревнованиях, не относится к компетенции службы поддержки. Размещать свои предложения оптимально на форуме в разделе English » Suggestions/Improvements"

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By rudzov (NCA) - 16-12-2019 12:43

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President

I'm not kidding myself. We 2019-12-03 in the news there was a message about the addition of individual awards, which will be transferred to managers when the League of Federations No. 13 ends. "Before the end of the Federation League, you need to earn as many points as possible. For earned points you can get Credits» for 20-29 points: + 1 Loyal Player + 10 Credits + An Emerald Sign Milestones Now this condition has changed: instead of Credits (Power Tokens) it is offered to get Scout matches: for 20-29 points: + 1 Loyal Player + 10 Scout matches + An Emerald Sign Milestones In the Russian zone, managers buy credits (Power Tokens) in MZstore for real money. To make it clear screenshot for example in Russian and English: in Russian http://prntscr.com/qbhemy and http://prntscr.com/qbhe5k, in English http://prntscr.com/qbhd81 and http://prntscr.com/qbhdra I wrote in support and got a response: "Dear user. Suggestions for changes in prizes in the Federation League, as well as prizes in other competitions, are not the responsibility of the support service. Post your suggestions optimally on the forum in the English section " Suggestions/Improvements"

chucky06 wrote:

No it’s not at all. I think you are kidding yourself and there was never any mention of power tokens. I’m not sure how you come to understand that.

Speak with your LA and get better clarity and translation before making such allegations in future.

I'm not kidding myself. We 2019-12-03 in the news there was a message about the addition of individual awards, which will be transferred to managers when the League of Federations No. 13 ends.
"Before the end of the Federation League, you need to earn as many points as possible. For earned points you can get Credits»
for 20-29 points:
+ 1 Loyal Player
+ 10 Credits
+ An Emerald Sign Milestones

Now this condition has changed: instead of Credits (Power Tokens) it is offered to get Scout matches:
for 20-29 points:
+ 1 Loyal Player
+ 10 Scout matches
+ An Emerald Sign Milestones
In the Russian zone, managers buy credits (Power Tokens) in MZstore for real money.
To make it clear screenshot for example in Russian and English:
in Russian http://prntscr.com/qbhemy and http://prntscr.com/qbhe5k,
in English http://prntscr.com/qbhd81 and http://prntscr.com/qbhdra

I wrote in support and got a response:
"Dear user. Suggestions for changes in prizes in the Federation League, as well as prizes in other competitions, are not the responsibility of the support service. Post your suggestions optimally on the forum in the English section " Suggestions/Improvements"

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By chucky06 - 16-12-2019 16:25

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President

I’m not sure you are still understanding. Credits are not power tokens, never have been and never will be. Case closed. I’m sorry but I cannot offer any further comment. It’s the assumption you’ve made that credits = power tokens. That is your mistake.I’m not sure you are still understanding.

Credits are not power tokens, never have been and never will be. Case closed. I’m sorry but I cannot offer any further comment. It’s the assumption you’ve made that credits = power tokens. That is your mistake.

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By rudzov (NCA) - 16-12-2019 17:29

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President

You have no such thing as Credits at all and so for you Credits are not power tokens. We use the concept of Credits instead of the concept power tokens. Therefore, for us, Loans are tokens of power. It's the complexity of translation. But that's not the point. But the fact that: originally they promised one (power tokens), and then replace it with a Scout matches. That's what needs to be discussed, not the complexity of the translation. At all discussion goes not about how that need to to discuss. It seems that there is a swamp. To not appeared - all drowns in this quagmire.

chucky06 wrote:

I’m not sure you are still understanding.

Credits are not power tokens, never have been and never will be. Case closed. I’m sorry but I cannot offer any further comment. It’s the assumption you’ve made that credits = power tokens. That is your mistake.

You have no such thing as Credits at all and so for you Credits are not power tokens.
We use the concept of Credits instead of the concept power tokens. Therefore, for us, Loans are tokens of power. It's the complexity of translation.

But that's not the point. But the fact that: originally they promised one (power tokens), and then replace it with a Scout matches. That's what needs to be discussed, not the complexity of the translation.

At all discussion goes not about how that need to to discuss. It seems that there is a swamp. To not appeared - all drowns in this quagmire.

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By powdersnow (Crew) - 18-12-2019 09:15

[BFTF]

The news says (and has always said) Instant Match Credits, it never said just Credits (I know because I wrote it). This could have been an issue with the Russian translation, but at the moment it says Скаут-матчей which seems to be correct. If it did say something else at one point, it was apparently fixed by the translators. Remember that the translators are volunteer admins who work diligently to strengthen the Russian community. I will speak to the translators however and try to make sure we do not make this mistake again (if a mistake was made). I do apologize on behalf of the team if a mistake was made, and we hope that you can understand our position. We obviously never meant to trick or fool anyone. The LoF13 challenge was meant as a small but fun add-on to the LoF for those who enjoy that competition, partly so that people might play in FL's themselves in stead of gifting Tokens to their strongest player and have that person represent the federation. It seems to have worked pretty well, except for this mishap of course.The news says (and has always said) Instant Match Credits, it never said just Credits (I know because I wrote it). This could have been an issue with the Russian translation, but at the moment it says Скаут-матчей which seems to be correct. If it did say something else at one point, it was apparently fixed by the translators. Remember that the translators are volunteer admins who work diligently to strengthen the Russian community.

I will speak to the translators however and try to make sure we do not make this mistake again (if a mistake was made). I do apologize on behalf of the team if a mistake was made, and we hope that you can understand our position. We obviously never meant to trick or fool anyone. The LoF13 challenge was meant as a small but fun add-on to the LoF for those who enjoy that competition, partly so that people might play in FL's themselves in stead of gifting Tokens to their strongest player and have that person represent the federation. It seems to have worked pretty well, except for this mishap of course.

На: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By rudzov (NCA) - 18-12-2019 16:47

[РФС]
President

We accept apologies on behalf of the team. Talking to translators will not solve this problem. If a mistake was made and recorded by the translators, the translators must pay the promised. Because it couldn't be a problem with the Russian translation. It is impossible to translate "Scout matches" into Russian as "power tokens" or "Credits"from English. It's not a mistake - it's a deliberate act or diversion. The announcement of additional "power tokens" awards added incentive and interest to participate in the No. 13 Federations League. As a result, the activity of Russian managers and the number of participants in the pools of the League of Federations increased. Expecting additional rewards "power tokens" Russian managers spent their money. They could use their " power tokens "on" Club Membership", on" Youth leagues "or on"World League". Instead, Russian managers will get "Scout matches". So far we see that voluntary administrators are working hard to destroy the Russian community. Russian managers are outraged and many now have apathy for the game. Because if during the game the conditions and rules change, then trust falls, which undermines the foundations of the game and interest. This destroys the game more than any other factors of falling interest. We believe that to restore justice, it is necessary to fulfill the promise of additional rewards "power tokens".We accept apologies on behalf of the team. Talking to translators will not solve this problem.
If a mistake was made and recorded by the translators, the translators must pay the promised. Because it couldn't be a problem with the Russian translation. It is impossible to translate "Scout matches" into Russian as "power tokens" or "Credits"from English. It's not a mistake - it's a deliberate act or diversion.

The announcement of additional "power tokens" awards added incentive and interest to participate in the No. 13 Federations League. As a result, the activity of Russian managers and the number of participants in the pools of the League of Federations increased. Expecting additional rewards "power tokens" Russian managers spent their money. They could use their " power tokens "on" Club Membership", on" Youth leagues "or on"World League". Instead, Russian managers will get "Scout matches".

So far we see that voluntary administrators are working hard to destroy the Russian community.
Russian managers are outraged and many now have apathy for the game.
Because if during the game the conditions and rules change, then trust falls, which undermines the foundations of the game and interest. This destroys the game more than any other factors of falling interest.

We believe that to restore justice, it is necessary to fulfill the promise of additional rewards "power tokens".

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By powdersnow (Crew) - 19-12-2019 13:13

[BFTF]

I think the problem is with the initial name "Instant Match Credits" (it is NOT called "scout matches" since you can play a bunch of other matches with it). In English this works just fine, but translated into Russian it becomes a word which sounds similar to the word we use for Tokens. So the word "credit" is the problem here. It should be fine in the future, as long as the Russian LA's are aware of this danger. I'll also remind you that 1 Instant Match Credit is actually worth 2 Power Tokens. So you are actually asking for something that is worth less than what you got.I think the problem is with the initial name "Instant Match Credits" (it is NOT called "scout matches" since you can play a bunch of other matches with it). In English this works just fine, but translated into Russian it becomes a word which sounds similar to the word we use for Tokens. So the word "credit" is the problem here. It should be fine in the future, as long as the Russian LA's are aware of this danger.

I'll also remind you that 1 Instant Match Credit is actually worth 2 Power Tokens. So you are actually asking for something that is worth less than what you got.

На: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By rudzov (NCA) - 19-12-2019 14:31

[РФС]
President

I realized that the wrong and not accurate translation led to the situation. But what you write does not solve the problem. I already wrote that: "in anticipation of additional rewards "power tokens" Russian managers spent their money. They wanted to use their "power tokens" on "club membership," on "youth leagues," or on " World League." Instead, the Russian managers will receive a "Scout matches"." 1 instant match credit is worth 2 power tokens, but brings less revenue to the club's cash register than participation in the" youth leagues "or in the"World League". Therefore, Russian managers want to get "power tokens". Russian managers are not interested in " scout matches " or " Instant Match Credits". If Russian managers do not receive the expected "power tokens", then many of them will cease to participate in the Federation League and may leave the game. Translators are rewarded for their work. If their actions have caused damage to the managers and the game, then they should be responsible for the problem and compensate the damage so that the managers get what they expected. In the future, it is more interesting to receive awards from the League of federations - "power tokens". Which confirms the results of the surveys.I realized that the wrong and not accurate translation led to the situation. But what you write does not solve the problem.
I already wrote that: "in anticipation of additional rewards "power tokens" Russian managers spent their money. They wanted to use their "power tokens" on "club membership," on "youth leagues," or on " World League." Instead, the Russian managers will receive a "Scout matches"."

1 instant match credit is worth 2 power tokens, but brings less revenue to the club's cash register than participation in the" youth leagues "or in the"World League". Therefore, Russian managers want to get "power tokens". Russian managers are not interested in " scout matches " or " Instant Match Credits".

If Russian managers do not receive the expected "power tokens", then many of them will cease to participate in the Federation League and may leave the game.

Translators are rewarded for their work. If their actions have caused damage to the managers and the game, then they should be responsible for the problem and compensate the damage so that the managers get what they expected.

In the future, it is more interesting to receive awards from the League of federations - "power tokens". Which confirms the results of the surveys.

Sv: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By manekaster - 19-12-2019 21:16

[TDF]
President

Indeed. When deciding to complete the challenge, I realized that I would actually “earn” Power Tokens, as the instant match credits are worth 2 PTs each, and 1 participation in a LoF tournament costs 2 PTs. So I’d have to spend less PTs than what I got in return (in the form of instant match credits). Instant match credits are in fact valuable as we’re entering the closing stages of the Season and Generation cups, Uxx series, senior leagues (and for some also qualifying games). Eventually I spent more PTs than necessary, as I wanted to finish as high as possible on the individual leaderboard, but that’s a completely different story 😎

powdersnow wrote:

I'll also remind you that 1 Instant Match Credit is actually worth 2 Power Tokens. So you are actually asking for something that is worth less than what you got.

Indeed. When deciding to complete the challenge, I realized that I would actually “earn” Power Tokens, as the instant match credits are worth 2 PTs each, and 1 participation in a LoF tournament costs 2 PTs. So I’d have to spend less PTs than what I got in return (in the form of instant match credits).

Instant match credits are in fact valuable as we’re entering the closing stages of the Season and Generation cups, Uxx series, senior leagues (and for some also qualifying games).

Eventually I spent more PTs than necessary, as I wanted to finish as high as possible on the individual leaderboard, but that’s a completely different story 😎

Sv: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By manekaster - 19-12-2019 21:19

[TDF]
President

If they replace Instant match credits with Power Tokens, it should only be an award for the managers finishing in the top spots in the individual leaderboard. That’s my opinion. Feel free to disagree 😊

rudzov wrote:

In the future, it is more interesting to receive awards from the League of federations - "power tokens". Which confirms the results of the surveys.

If they replace Instant match credits with Power Tokens, it should only be an award for the managers finishing in the top spots in the individual leaderboard. That’s my opinion. Feel free to disagree 😊

Re: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By uspacheco - 11-01-2020 22:49

[FESP]
President

Just a suggestion. Sorry my English. Why do MZ just cancel this LoF 13, and give back their PTs ? I see there is a problem with translation , and that led managers to use PTs to earn (if the case) PTs on return. I may be late giving this suggestion, but .... Hope it was solved and everybody happy !Just a suggestion. Sorry my English.

Why do MZ just cancel this LoF 13, and give back their PTs ?

I see there is a problem with translation , and that led managers to use PTs to earn (if the case) PTs on return.

I may be late giving this suggestion, but ....

Hope it was solved and everybody happy !

На: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By rudzov (NCA) - 11-01-2020 23:24

[РФС]
President

I agree

manekaster wrote:

If they replace Instant match credits with Power Tokens, it should only be an award for the managers finishing in the top spots in the individual leaderboard. That’s my opinion. Feel free to disagree 😊

I agree

На: Scandal and forgery in the League of Federations 13

By rudzov (NCA) - 11-01-2020 23:49

[РФС]
President

Disagree: Power tokens are much more valuable. For 25 tokens of power, you can buy a pass to the Youth leagues (u23, u21, u18) and the club will earn ten times more than from scout matches. I from 20 scout matches played only 6 home matches from which I received a scanty income. And in the Youth leagues (u23, u21, u18) I would have played 33 home games. If I had received 20 power tokens as a reward (instead of 20 scout matches), I would have added 5 power tokens and bought a pass to the Youth leagues (u23, u21, u18). It's much more profitable. Unfortunately, we were not given the promised and we got no one needed scout matches. As a result, we were damaged by an incorrect translation.

manekaster wrote:

Indeed. When deciding to complete the challenge, I realized that I would actually “earn” Power Tokens, as the instant match credits are worth 2 PTs each, and 1 participation in a LoF tournament costs 2 PTs. So I’d have to spend less PTs than what I got in return (in the form of instant match credits).

Instant match credits are in fact valuable as we’re entering the closing stages of the Season and Generation cups, Uxx series, senior leagues (and for some also qualifying games).

Eventually I spent more PTs than necessary, as I wanted to finish as high as possible on the individual leaderboard, but that’s a completely different story 😎

Disagree:
Power tokens are much more valuable. For 25 tokens of power, you can buy a pass to the Youth leagues (u23, u21, u18) and the club will earn ten times more than from scout matches.
I from 20 scout matches played only 6 home matches from which I received a scanty income. And in the Youth leagues (u23, u21, u18) I would have played 33 home games.

If I had received 20 power tokens as a reward (instead of 20 scout matches), I would have added 5 power tokens and bought a pass to the Youth leagues (u23, u21, u18). It's much more profitable.

Unfortunately, we were not given the promised and we got no one needed scout matches. As a result, we were damaged by an incorrect translation.

 

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