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MZ dont care

By jamus - 22-10-2019 09:14

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Here I will try to talk about how MZ solves there problems with his users. I got an invitation to a friendship league, for them i got many of every day, there are 2 kinds of manager I thought. 1. those who have chosen a game time for the matches. 2. those who have not chosen game time yet. As well as finding out there was a 3rd Group, for them this write-up is about, those who change game time spunky after signing up for their friendship league. Example," I am invited to a friendship league where the game time is at. 21.00 EPT once a day all days, as it starts, the game time has been changed to 04.00 EPT once a day every day." This problem is a big problem for me because I do not want to play matches when I sleep, so I do not sign up for these friendlies, but when the invitee can change the game time after signing up. This would mean the same as if that i go to a car dealer to buy a car, find the car I want at the price, pay and deal and to pick up the next day, so that next day when i pick it up the car dealer changed the engine with it somthing else and tell me it's me selling cars so I can replace your engine as much as I want you allready paid for it. This problem I made MZ aware of and said this I would like to have solved, to which MZ tells me you can then just not sign up for these friendlies, but how should I do this when the problem occurs after I signed up. The conclusion of this must be that NZ is anesthetically indifferent to there users and they can just sail their own lake. I am begining to see why people flee this game. Jamus.Here I will try to talk about how MZ solves there problems with his users. I got an invitation to a friendship league, for them i got many of every day, there are 2 kinds of manager I thought. 1. those who have chosen a game time for the matches. 2. those who have not chosen game time yet. As well as finding out there was a 3rd Group, for them this write-up is about, those who change game time spunky after signing up for their friendship league.

Example," I am invited to a friendship league where the game time is at. 21.00 EPT once a day all days, as it starts, the game time has been changed to 04.00 EPT once a day every day."

This problem is a big problem for me because I do not want to play matches when I sleep, so I do not sign up for these friendlies, but when the invitee can change the game time after signing up.
This would mean the same as if that i go to a car dealer to buy a car, find the car I want at the price, pay and deal and to pick up the next day, so that next day when i pick it up the car dealer changed the engine with it somthing else and tell me it's me selling cars so I can replace your engine as much as I want you allready paid for it.

This problem I made MZ aware of and said this I would like to have solved, to which MZ tells me you can then just not sign up for these friendlies, but how should I do this when the problem occurs after I signed up.
The conclusion of this must be that NZ is anesthetically indifferent to there users and they can just sail their own lake.

I am begining to see why people flee this game.

Jamus.

 

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Re: MZ dont care

By chucky06 - 22-10-2019 09:28

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I can see your problem but I myself are very selective of FL’s I join and only join leagues who I know the creators or repeat leagues every season. I’d recommend you do the same for the problem you’re talking about to not happen.I can see your problem but I myself are very selective of FL’s I join and only join leagues who I know the creators or repeat leagues every season. I’d recommend you do the same for the problem you’re talking about to not happen.

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By jamus - 22-10-2019 09:36

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President

As i say, "MZ dont care"As i say, "MZ dont care"

Re: MZ dont care

By chucky06 - 22-10-2019 10:57

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President

I don’t think it’s they don’t care, but as a Cup/League creator you have the right to set times for leagues. You could always create your own and then you have control too.I don’t think it’s they don’t care, but as a Cup/League creator you have the right to set times for leagues. You could always create your own and then you have control too.

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By jamus - 22-10-2019 11:34

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Had MZ been Danish owned, then the consumer controllere we hav in Denmark. would have closed down the site until the problem was resolved, on the basis of the denial that it is false marketing of MZ.Had MZ been Danish owned, then the consumer controllere we hav in Denmark. would have closed down the site until the problem was resolved, on the basis of the denial that it is false marketing of MZ.

Re: MZ dont care

By chucky06 - 22-10-2019 11:36

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President

I think you’re making it out to be a much bigger of an issue than it is.I think you’re making it out to be a much bigger of an issue than it is.

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By jamus - 22-10-2019 11:37

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But clearly MZ want user to boykot friendship League instead of solve the problem, thats make sense. NOT.But clearly MZ want user to boykot friendship League instead of solve the problem, thats make sense. NOT.

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By jamus - 22-10-2019 11:39

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4 x 5 is 20 tventy tokens not speend on MZ today because MZ say boykot friendship League. As i say, "MZ dont care"4 x 5 is 20 tventy tokens not speend on MZ today because MZ say boykot friendship League.

As i say, "MZ dont care"

Re: MZ dont care

By chucky06 - 22-10-2019 11:46

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President

I have no more to add to this topic nor does it seem you do. I will close the thread if I think you are only here to slander the crew as it’s against the forum rules. If you are still feeling hard done by please make a ticket and contact support that way.I have no more to add to this topic nor does it seem you do. I will close the thread if I think you are only here to slander the crew as it’s against the forum rules.

If you are still feeling hard done by please make a ticket and contact support that way.

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By joketan - 22-10-2019 13:42

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Maybe use your brain for two seconds before you start a topic about how crew sucks because you disagree with their approach to a TINY issue. First off, if you care so much about when exactly your matches are played, that's just sad. But more importantly, have you ever considered that maybe there are significant advantages to how the system works currently? Like the fact that the creator of a friendly league can now actually start a conversation with the people joining the league about what the best time slot would be for all parties involved? I play fl's very infrequently, but I have been in this type of situation before, where the creator changed the time slots according to the wishes of participants. = happy good times But I guess it's easier to pretend like the world revolves around you alone, and every issue is black and white and you are right and they are wrong. Peace and love, y'all! Free the press, free Julian Assange!Maybe use your brain for two seconds before you start a topic about how crew sucks because you disagree with their approach to a TINY issue.

First off, if you care so much about when exactly your matches are played, that's just sad. But more importantly, have you ever considered that maybe there are significant advantages to how the system works currently? Like the fact that the creator of a friendly league can now actually start a conversation with the people joining the league about what the best time slot would be for all parties involved? I play fl's very infrequently, but I have been in this type of situation before, where the creator changed the time slots according to the wishes of participants. = happy good times

But I guess it's easier to pretend like the world revolves around you alone, and every issue is black and white and you are right and they are wrong.

Peace and love, y'all! Free the press, free Julian Assange!

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By jamus - 22-10-2019 14:46

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@chucky06 - This is what I have done to no avail, because I have been told by MZ and now you that I can just stop and sign up for Friendship Leagues. So MZ solution to a problem is, not do anything about it, and hope the user shut up about it. And in same time hope he use hes tokens on the site. LOL@chucky06 - This is what I have done to no avail, because I have been told by MZ and now you that I can just stop and sign up for Friendship Leagues. So MZ solution to a problem is, not do anything about it, and hope the user shut up about it. And in same time hope he use hes tokens on the site. LOL

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By jamus - 22-10-2019 14:55

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After all, it would be fun to see what users would say to an official cup they had signed up for with tokens, and MZ moved the gametime 16 hours back or 8 hours forward so that it was suddenly night on the EPT, without telling the users, what would be a scream of dimensions, for sure. but now it's just me and then I'm stupid.After all, it would be fun to see what users would say to an official cup they had signed up for with tokens, and MZ moved the gametime 16 hours back or 8 hours forward so that it was suddenly night on the EPT, without telling the users, what would be a scream of dimensions, for sure. but now it's just me and then I'm stupid.

Re: MZ dont care

By aldebaran - 23-10-2019 17:51

@jamus why you don't want to have matches when you're asleep?@jamus

why you don't want to have matches when you're asleep?

Re: MZ dont care

By lorijan - 23-10-2019 19:43

I agree. MZ dont care.I agree. MZ dont care.

Re: MZ dont care

By theloyalone - 23-10-2019 20:13

someone's back from exile...

aldebaran wrote:

@jamus

why you don't want to have matches when you're asleep?

someone's back from exile...

Re: MZ dont care

By darkline - 23-10-2019 20:27

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That's actually a good question, my team play games 24 hours a day and my players never sleep.

aldebaran wrote:

@jamus

why you don't want to have matches when you're asleep?

That's actually a good question, my team play games 24 hours a day and my players never sleep.

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By jamus - 24-10-2019 01:32

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@aldebaran - Because I actually want to see my team play when I'm awake and not slepping and with the number of matches I have now is more than ample. @darkline - Good for you that you play so many matches that you can't see them all your matches, but if I got tokens from MZ I would probably take and use them like you do.@aldebaran - Because I actually want to see my team play when I'm awake and not slepping and with the number of matches I have now is more than ample.

@darkline - Good for you that you play so many matches that you can't see them all your matches, but if I got tokens from MZ I would probably take and use them like you do.

Re: MZ dont care

By chucky06 - 24-10-2019 02:55

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President

Create your own friendly leagues- set the times yourself- problem solved. The crew has far bigger issues to deal with than one persons minuscule complaint regarding friendly league match times. You’re in Europe, you already have the advantage. Every Official Cup game is at a ridiculous hour of the morning for me here in Australia. Do you see me complaining and calling it an injustice, no. That’s not mentioning my World League games and National Team match times either which are of a much great significance than “friendly” leagues [color=blue]*edited* wrong work used Chucky06[/color]Create your own friendly leagues- set the times yourself- problem solved.

The crew has far bigger issues to deal with than one persons minuscule complaint regarding friendly league match times. You’re in Europe, you already have the advantage. Every Official Cup game is at a ridiculous hour of the morning for me here in Australia. Do you see me complaining and calling it an injustice, no. That’s not mentioning my World League games and National Team match times either which are of a much great significance than “friendly” leagues

*edited* wrong work used
Chucky06

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By tojosular (FA) (NCA) - 24-10-2019 03:30

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You are kind of escalating this thread by belittleling the user that has formed a valid topic. As an FA you should try to do the exact opposite and diffuse instead. Whether you or anybody else finds this issue minor or not, it does´nt give you the right to intimidate or threaten with closing the thread. The issue raised might find followers it might not, but do not educate paying customers on what your personal view of a topic´s value is or is´nt and further more project your views onto crew themselves. Any issue whatever the size can cause irritation and we as FA´s should refrain from attacking.

chucky06 wrote:

I have no more to add to this topic nor does it seem you do. I will close the thread if I think you are only here to slander the crew as it’s against the forum rules.

If you are still feeling hard done by please make a ticket and contact support that way.

chucky06 wrote:

Create your own friendly leagues- set the times yourself- problem solved.

The crew has far bigger issues to deal with than one persons minuscule complaint regarding friendly league match times. You’re in Europe, you already have the advantage. Every Official Cup game is at a ridiculous hour of the morning for me here in Australia. Do you see me complaining and calling it an injustice, no. That’s not mentioning my World League games and National Team match times either which are of a much great significance than “friendly” leagues

*edited* wrong work used
Chucky06

You are kind of escalating this thread by belittleling the user that has formed a valid topic. As an FA you should try to do the exact opposite and diffuse instead.

Whether you or anybody else finds this issue minor or not, it does´nt give you the right to intimidate or threaten with closing the thread.

The issue raised might find followers it might not, but do not educate paying customers on what your personal view of a topic´s value is or is´nt and further more project your views onto crew themselves. Any issue whatever the size can cause irritation and we as FA´s should refrain from attacking.

Re: MZ dont care

By chucky06 - 24-10-2019 03:48

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President

I’ve give the solution by saying the issue needs to be raised with support and to make a ticket. I’ve stated it’s a tiny issue which is fact. I don’t believe I’ve “attacked” anyone at all. If you want to refer to my job description which you feel you know well, it is my job to close a thread that may be harmful to the game or that has the intend to slander the crew. At the point of writing the comment that’s where the thread was heading so I was warning the poster. I’ve then given my personal opinion which is also the opinion of most other users here which I’m am rightfully allowed to do. If you feel anything I’ve done has been unethical I do apologise.I’ve give the solution by saying the issue needs to be raised with support and to make a ticket. I’ve stated it’s a tiny issue which is fact. I don’t believe I’ve “attacked” anyone at all. If you want to refer to my job description which you feel you know well, it is my job to close a thread that may be harmful to the game or that has the intend to slander the crew. At the point of writing the comment that’s where the thread was heading so I was warning the poster.

I’ve then given my personal opinion which is also the opinion of most other users here which I’m am rightfully allowed to do.

If you feel anything I’ve done has been unethical I do apologise.

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By tojosular (FA) (NCA) - 24-10-2019 04:26

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Well then first off you have misread the post from the user. He has already talked to support (quote to underline that underneeth) and obviously wanted to partly share his frustration here and bring this topic to light. And what you did in the beginning was ok. Your first interaction was just and fair, giving him your view, but you cleary became annoyed and wanted the user to stop all together and therefore showed him an ultimatum based on a very thin read of the rulebook (Jumping the gun). Afterwards you belittled him with your Crew comment and your sarcastic take on your own situation, stating that you should be even more angry them himself. All in all belitteling and intimidating. In those 2 statements that i brought up, you manage to attack him. Agreed it is not an all out attack, where you bash his person and talk with dirty words, but it is still an attack and not in any way a diffusal. It is true a fact, that in the grand scheme of things the issue itself is not major, and by definition most issues are´nt mayor in that light. But it quite visably is a big deal for this user, who pays money for the game and this particular feature of the game (Probably intensified in the heat of the moment), so yeah [b]whether the issue is big or small[/b] it is still an issue to this particular user and us A´s have to respect that and yes i do not feel that you respected it here and i stated why i believed that as well. If you respected it, you would´nt have done what you did. If you have a different viewpoint, which you seem to have, then lets agree to disagree.

chucky06 wrote:

I’ve give the solution by saying the issue needs to be raised with support and to make a ticket. I’ve stated it’s a tiny issue which is fact. I don’t believe I’ve “attacked” anyone at all. If you want to refer to my job description which you feel you know well, it is my job to close a thread that may be harmful to the game or that has the intend to slander the crew. At the point of writing the comment that’s where the thread was heading so I was warning the poster.

I’ve then given my personal opinion which is also the opinion of most other users here which I’m am rightfully allowed to do.

If you feel anything I’ve done has been unethical I do apologise.

Well then first off you have misread the post from the user. He has already talked to support (quote to underline that underneeth) and obviously wanted to partly share his frustration here and bring this topic to light.

jamus wrote:

this problem I made MZ aware of and said this I would like to have solved, to which MZ tells me you can then just not sign up for these friendlies, but how should I do this when the problem occurs after I signed up.

And what you did in the beginning was ok. Your first interaction was just and fair, giving him your view, but you cleary became annoyed and wanted the user to stop all together and therefore showed him an ultimatum based on a very thin read of the rulebook (Jumping the gun). Afterwards you belittled him with your Crew comment and your sarcastic take on your own situation, stating that you should be even more angry them himself.

All in all belitteling and intimidating.

In those 2 statements that i brought up, you manage to attack him. Agreed it is not an all out attack, where you bash his person and talk with dirty words, but it is still an attack and not in any way a diffusal.

It is true a fact, that in the grand scheme of things the issue itself is not major, and by definition most issues are´nt mayor in that light. But it quite visably is a big deal for this user, who pays money for the game and this particular feature of the game (Probably intensified in the heat of the moment), so yeah whether the issue is big or small it is still an issue to this particular user and us A´s have to respect that and yes i do not feel that you respected it here and i stated why i believed that as well.

If you respected it, you would´nt have done what you did. If you have a different viewpoint, which you seem to have, then lets agree to disagree.

Re: MZ dont care

By deleted_5240478 - 24-10-2019 06:31

Gents, this conversation (spat) that your having is in full view of the public. If you have issues with how each other preform under your roles please take it to the admin forums. Many thanks BrianGents, this conversation (spat) that your having is in full view of the public. If you have issues with how each other preform under your roles please take it to the admin forums.

Many thanks
Brian

Re: MZ dont care

By aldebaran - 24-10-2019 10:14

But you don't have to be online when the games are played You can always watch them later at your own pace during the day There's an option that, when you click to see what matches you played, the score won't be visible. That way there's no chance in spoiling the thrill of not knowing the score and waiting to see it unfold while you watch the game on 2d/3d If our online presence gave us an option to change something during the match (ie when to make the substitutions or alternate tactics when we want and not at a preset minute in the game) then probably you'd have on your back all the managers in here

jamus wrote:

@aldebaran - Because I actually want to see my team play when I'm awake and not slepping and with the number of matches I have now is more than ample.

But you don't have to be online when the games are played
You can always watch them later at your own pace during the day

There's an option that, when you click to see what matches you played, the score won't be visible.
That way there's no chance in spoiling the thrill of not knowing the score and waiting to see it unfold while you watch the game on 2d/3d

If our online presence gave us an option to change something during the match (ie when to make the substitutions or alternate tactics when we want and not at a preset minute in the game) then probably you'd have on your back all the managers in here

Re: MZ dont care

By aldebaran - 24-10-2019 10:15

...goes back to his cave...

theloyalone wrote:

someone's back from exile...

...goes back to his cave...

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By jamus - 24-10-2019 11:11

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@aldebaran - I know I don't need to be online, I also use the feature you are talking about, but I have 2 clubs one in each sport as well as all ages as well as extra b-team for senior (10 Teams) so I have plenty of matches to see when i'm awake if i also have to watch matches through from i have slept then i could do nothing but play MZ all the time without food and sleep.@aldebaran - I know I don't need to be online, I also use the feature you are talking about, but I have 2 clubs one in each sport as well as all ages as well as extra b-team for senior (10 Teams) so I have plenty of matches to see when i'm awake if i also have to watch matches through from i have slept then i could do nothing but play MZ all the time without food and sleep.

Re: MZ dont care

By theloyalone - 24-10-2019 22:54

lol. Sorry, but in all honesty, that makes no sense :/ Whether you watch matches in one go, or you watch them as they come, they're still going to take the same amount of time to watch.

jamus wrote:

@aldebaran - I know I don't need to be online, I also use the feature you are talking about, but I have 2 clubs one in each sport as well as all ages as well as extra b-team for senior (10 Teams) so I have plenty of matches to see when i'm awake if i also have to watch matches through from i have slept then i could do nothing but play MZ all the time without food and sleep.

lol. Sorry, but in all honesty, that makes no sense :/ Whether you watch matches in one go, or you watch them as they come, they're still going to take the same amount of time to watch.

Re: MZ dont care

By theloyalone - 24-10-2019 23:02

And, last I knew, criticizing (which often went to the extent of accusing) and bettling someone else (especially an XA), often based on self-assumptions, isn't right either. Especially when, as brian_mcsnail pointed out (thank god for that), there are other platforms for the same. Even a personal chat interaction would've done...And, last I knew, criticizing (which often went to the extent of accusing) and bettling someone else (especially an XA), often based on self-assumptions, isn't right either.

Especially when, as brian_mcsnail pointed out (thank god for that), there are other platforms for the same. Even a personal chat interaction would've done...

Re: MZ dont care

By lorijan - 13-05-2020 17:11

I have one question. Why so many people from india calling me??? I dont even live in your country!!I have one question. Why so many people from india calling me??? I dont even live in your country!!

Re: MZ dont care

By delirioussk8er - 19-05-2020 12:17

[MZ]

This issue is so petty. Are you a girl?This issue is so petty. Are you a girl?

Re: MZ dont care

By chucky06 - 19-05-2020 13:39

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President

[color=blue]Closed topic- old thread and nothing new to add to the thread. If anything new is to be added feel free to create a new thread outlining issues. Last two posts infringe on forum rules too. /chucky06[/color]Closed topic- old thread and nothing new to add to the thread. If anything new is to be added feel free to create a new thread outlining issues. Last two posts infringe on forum rules too.
/chucky06

 

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