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Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By lukaszsz182 (RA) (NCA) - 10-06-2019 18:25

[POLSKA]

Hi all, I want to ask if you think that my keeper is bad therefore he is responsible for my bad scores? I have queite decent team, better than last one, (last team won me 5 titles and 5 league clans in a row, national cups etc).much better i can say, but the results are disapointing. Have a look at my keeper I have him 3rd season now, my youth, could his play inteligence be his fault? and maybe he is still young? I know this sim loves old players. Is it better to get a 28-31 y/o one with at least 8 on inteligence? I present the keeper below. thanks. [fpl=202032223]Hi all, I want to ask if you think that my keeper is bad therefore he is responsible for my bad scores? I have queite decent team, better than last one, (last team won me 5 titles and 5 league clans in a row, national cups etc).much better i can say, but the results are disapointing. Have a look at my keeper I have him 3rd season now, my youth, could his play inteligence be his fault? and maybe he is still young? I know this sim loves old players. Is it better to get a 28-31 y/o one with at least 8 on inteligence? I present the keeper below. thanks.

Donavon Mulvihill

Age: 45 (Retired)

 

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Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By theloyalone - 10-06-2019 20:36

To begin with, the effectiveness of a keeper (or any player, for that matter) also depends on the league you play in, or basically, the competition you face. I've seen your opponents, and you seem to be competing at a pretty high level. For a team like yours, I think you'd want to settle for a keeper with higher PI. Normally, such a keeper would've been great, but at your level, i think a keeper with better PI may be more effective. Regards.To begin with, the effectiveness of a keeper (or any player, for that matter) also depends on the league you play in, or basically, the competition you face.

I've seen your opponents, and you seem to be competing at a pretty high level. For a team like yours, I think you'd want to settle for a keeper with higher PI. Normally, such a keeper would've been great, but at your level, i think a keeper with better PI may be more effective. Regards.

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By albeagle - 10-06-2019 21:03

what theloyalone said and the experience should be 10 balls. The keeper should have more skill balls over all if you're playing at a very high level.what theloyalone said and the experience should be 10 balls. The keeper should have more skill balls over all if you're playing at a very high level.

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By theloyalone - 10-06-2019 22:37

[fpl=203025647] That's my keeper btw. Not a very great one, but pretty good. He has done pretty well in many matches, and saved me on important occasions :)

Harish Badyal

Age: 47 (Retired)

That's my keeper btw. Not a very great one, but pretty good. He has done pretty well in many matches, and saved me on important occasions :)

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By darkline - 11-06-2019 00:01

[FLUSA]
President

Personally I think Pi is very important for a keeper and while your keeper isn't an elite player, he should still do reasonable well so I don't think the keeper is the problem...Personally I think Pi is very important for a keeper and while your keeper isn't an elite player, he should still do reasonable well so I don't think the keeper is the problem...

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By killerbeeez (NC) - 11-06-2019 10:59

[S.WARS]

What Darkline said. The keeper is not your problem. Check your formation. But also PI might not be as important for keepers as we think because the manual says it is only useful in attacking and defending. The keeper is not a defender. If you're not getting at least 85% in passing accuracy at least in the first half of matches then tweak your formation until you do. Regardless of your playing style(wings, long balls or short passing). Position your players so they're at excellent at interception and breaking down attacks before it even reaches the keeper. No shots on target no need to make a save right? From what I've discovered formation trumps player skills. And if your formation is sub par you will struggle against a lower ranked team with a formation that suits that team perfectly.What Darkline said. The keeper is not your problem. Check your formation. But also PI might not be as important for keepers as we think because the manual says it is only useful in attacking and defending. The keeper is not a defender.

If you're not getting at least 85% in passing accuracy at least in the first half of matches then tweak your formation until you do. Regardless of your playing style(wings, long balls or short passing). Position your players so they're at excellent at interception and breaking down attacks before it even reaches the keeper. No shots on target no need to make a save right?

From what I've discovered formation trumps player skills. And if your formation is sub par you will struggle against a lower ranked team with a formation that suits that team perfectly.

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By engerek01 - 11-06-2019 11:45

[MZ-TR]

PI is exceptionally important for a goal keeper. We believe that PI represents "positioning" in this game so a keeper with low PI will have a bad time catching the ball even with 10 keeping. Set Plays is also important for the keeper. When you watch your matches, how many times the opposition get the ball when your keeper is doing goal kicks?PI is exceptionally important for a goal keeper. We believe that PI represents "positioning" in this game so a keeper with low PI will have a bad time catching the ball even with 10 keeping.

Set Plays is also important for the keeper. When you watch your matches, how many times the opposition get the ball when your keeper is doing goal kicks?

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By frankiejhoffa - 11-06-2019 12:21

[AUSNZ]

Set plays ?? Its not a skill that does anything I believe

engerek01 wrote:

PI is exceptionally important for a goal keeper. We believe that PI represents "positioning" in this game so a keeper with low PI will have a bad time catching the ball even with 10 keeping.

Set Plays is also important for the keeper. When you watch your matches, how many times the opposition get the ball when your keeper is doing goal kicks?

Set plays ??
Its not a skill that does anything I believe

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By chucky06 - 11-06-2019 13:16

[AUSNZ]
President

Set plays is very up in the air. Nobody still has any great evidence or research on it’s effectiveness in any position. Surely it has some effect but to what degree is unknown and whether it’s based on attacking set piece situation (corners, penalties, free kicks) and does it even apply to defensive situations like (goal kicks, defending headers, penalties, free kicks) The most unknown and useless skill in MZSet plays is very up in the air.

Nobody still has any great evidence or research on it’s effectiveness in any position. Surely it has some effect but to what degree is unknown and whether it’s based on attacking set piece situation (corners, penalties, free kicks) and does it even apply to defensive situations like (goal kicks, defending headers, penalties, free kicks)

The most unknown and useless skill in MZ

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By lukaszsz182 (RA) (NCA) - 11-06-2019 16:01

[POLSKA]

Think I may be getting an older one +30, I asked because I lost many matches when had more shoots than my rivals, so I don't know now, it was a big discussion about the sim so I guess it's hard to say is it the formation, sim or the keeper. I tried many formation, play this game since 2009 so I have some idea, with the previous squad I managed to defeat rivals from top divisions which are way stronger than Ireland, but with this squad they play very low level. Guess game changes and maybe tactics changed a little too. thanks for all advices. about kick offs I think the aerial passing matters for the keeper.Think I may be getting an older one +30, I asked because I lost many matches when had more shoots than my rivals, so I don't know now, it was a big discussion about the sim so I guess it's hard to say is it the formation, sim or the keeper. I tried many formation, play this game since 2009 so I have some idea, with the previous squad I managed to defeat rivals from top divisions which are way stronger than Ireland, but with this squad they play very low level. Guess game changes and maybe tactics changed a little too.

thanks for all advices.

about kick offs I think the aerial passing matters for the keeper.

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By killerbeeez (NC) - 11-06-2019 16:41

[S.WARS]

Set plays have zero effects on goal kicks. If anything you can argue that it helps the keeper save more shots from setpieces including penalties. But this is also debatable.

engerek01 wrote:

PI is exceptionally important for a goal keeper. We believe that PI represents "positioning" in this game so a keeper with low PI will have a bad time catching the ball even with 10 keeping.

Set Plays is also important for the keeper. When you watch your matches, how many times the opposition get the ball when your keeper is doing goal kicks?

Set plays have zero effects on goal kicks. If anything you can argue that it helps the keeper save more shots from setpieces including penalties. But this is also debatable.

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By killerbeeez (NC) - 11-06-2019 16:45

[S.WARS]

Aah the old shots on target debate. Try buying strikers with 9 speed 9 stamina 9 pi 10 shooting 9 ball control. Looks to be the min for elite teams and national teams. More emphasis on the 9 stamina and 9 pi 10 shooting. That's critical.

lukaszsz182 wrote:

Think I may be getting an older one +30, I asked because I lost many matches when had more shoots than my rivals, so I don't know now, it was a big discussion about the sim so I guess it's hard to say is it the formation, sim or the keeper. I tried many formation, play this game since 2009 so I have some idea, with the previous squad I managed to defeat rivals from top divisions which are way stronger than Ireland, but with this squad they play very low level. Guess game changes and maybe tactics changed a little too.

thanks for all advices.

about kick offs I think the aerial passing matters for the keeper.

Aah the old shots on target debate. Try buying strikers with 9 speed 9 stamina 9 pi 10 shooting 9 ball control. Looks to be the min for elite teams and national teams. More emphasis on the 9 stamina and 9 pi 10 shooting. That's critical.

Re: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By lukaszsz182 (RA) (NCA) - 11-06-2019 17:08

[POLSKA]

My strikers are nr 1: 9/9 speed/stamina, 9 shoot, 9 ball control nr 2: 8/9 speed/stamina, 9 shooting, 10 ball control nr 3: 8/9 speed stamina, 9 shooting, 10 ball control. Dont think they are too bad, use to have worse in the previous squad. I think keeper is the 20% of my problem, the rest I don;t know, maybe MZ got more great managers or the lottery results inscreased.My strikers are

nr 1: 9/9 speed/stamina, 9 shoot, 9 ball control
nr 2: 8/9 speed/stamina, 9 shooting, 10 ball control
nr 3: 8/9 speed stamina, 9 shooting, 10 ball control.

Dont think they are too bad, use to have worse in the previous squad.

I think keeper is the 20% of my problem, the rest I don;t know, maybe MZ got more great managers or the lottery results inscreased.

Ce: Keeper responsible for me bad results?

By engerek01 - 11-06-2019 19:22

[MZ-TR]

It is the exact opposite. SP can not help the keeper during penalties in any way. However, according to our statistics with over 1000 matches and hundreds of data, your own team has a much higher chance of getting the ball on goal kicks if your keeper has a high SP. The ratio is around 350% higher chance for a keeper with 8 SP compared to a keeper with 1 SP. This means roughly that you'll have 4 times higher chance that you'll be the one attacking and not the opposition. Crossing (air ball) also effects. However, I couldn't see the same benefit on other uses of Set Plays; Penalties, corners and Free Kicks. Forvets have slightly higher chance of scoring from aries passes coming from freekicks if you have a higher SP but this ratio was not significant.

killerbeeez wrote:

Set plays have zero effects on goal kicks. If anything you can argue that it helps the keeper save more shots from setpieces including penalties. But this is also debatable.

It is the exact opposite. SP can not help the keeper during penalties in any way.

However, according to our statistics with over 1000 matches and hundreds of data, your own team has a much higher chance of getting the ball on goal kicks if your keeper has a high SP. The ratio is around 350% higher chance for a keeper with 8 SP compared to a keeper with 1 SP. This means roughly that you'll have 4 times higher chance that you'll be the one attacking and not the opposition. Crossing (air ball) also effects.

However, I couldn't see the same benefit on other uses of Set Plays; Penalties, corners and Free Kicks. Forvets have slightly higher chance of scoring from aries passes coming from freekicks if you have a higher SP but this ratio was not significant.

 

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