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Strange form Update

By killerbeeez (NC) - 04-06-2019 08:57

I bought a player that arrived at the club two days ago with 9 balls in form and was fit to play. Today after the form Update his form has dropped from 9 to 6 with "NEEDS TO PLAY" icon being displayed not a "NEEDS TO REST" icon. How can this happen? The usual drop is 1 ball per week for "NEEDS TO PLAY" so where is this 3 ball drop coming from?I bought a player that arrived at the club two days ago with 9 balls in form and was fit to play. Today after the form Update his form has dropped from 9 to 6 with "NEEDS TO PLAY" icon being displayed not a "NEEDS TO REST" icon. How can this happen? The usual drop is 1 ball per week for "NEEDS TO PLAY" so where is this 3 ball drop coming from?

 

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Re: Strange form Update

By disinocht - 04-06-2019 11:28

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They changed this some time back: https://www.managerzone.com/?p=news&nid=95214They changed this some time back:

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=news&nid=95214

Re: Strange form Update

By killerbeeez (NC) - 04-06-2019 11:42

I know this. What I'm referring to is losing 3 form balls from 9 balls in form to 6 balls in form in one week but the player is not tired but is shown to be under played? Doesn't make any sense. I understand the new threshold changes but losing 3 balls in one week for being under played is weird.

disinocht wrote:

They changed this some time back:

https://www.managerzone.com/?p=news&nid=95214

I know this. What I'm referring to is losing 3 form balls from 9 balls in form to 6 balls in form in one week but the player is not tired but is shown to be under played? Doesn't make any sense. I understand the new threshold changes but losing 3 balls in one week for being under played is weird.

Re: Strange form Update

By disinocht - 04-06-2019 15:29

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I get your point, but it says in the news: "Now you get the appropriate feedback faster!" so, now it's just building up the form again without having to wait to see what the reason is.

killerbeeez wrote:

I know this. What I'm referring to is losing 3 form balls from 9 balls in form to 6 balls in form in one week but the player is not tired but is shown to be under played? Doesn't make any sense. I understand the new threshold changes but losing 3 balls in one week for being under played is weird.

I get your point, but it says in the news: "Now you get the appropriate feedback faster!" so, now it's just building up the form again without having to wait to see what the reason is.

Re: Strange form Update

By killerbeeez (NC) - 04-06-2019 19:12

OK tell me this. Have you ever had player drop from fit to needs to play and in the process losing 3 balls from 9 to 6 balls in form? I still don't think you understand my predicament

disinocht wrote:

I get your point, but it says in the news: "Now you get the appropriate feedback faster!" so, now it's just building up the form again without having to wait to see what the reason is.

OK tell me this. Have you ever had player drop from fit to needs to play and in the process losing 3 balls from 9 to 6 balls in form? I still don't think you understand my predicament

Re: Strange form Update

By deleted_8564725 - 04-06-2019 19:14

Could pheraps be a bug?Could pheraps be a bug?

Re: Strange form Update

By killerbeeez (NC) - 04-06-2019 20:26

I thought so. Can crew reverse this for a single player upon request?

diosmith wrote:

Could pheraps be a bug?

I thought so. Can crew reverse this for a single player upon request?

Re: Strange form Update

By killerbeeez (NC) - 05-06-2019 00:26

Update. I've contacted support. Waiting for reply.Update. I've contacted support. Waiting for reply.

Re: Strange form Update

By darkline - 05-06-2019 01:07

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I think that if you don't played the player at all is quite possible his form drops like a rock, I think this happened to me a few times when I forget to put youth players coming out of TC to play.

killerbeeez wrote:

OK tell me this. Have you ever had player drop from fit to needs to play and in the process losing 3 balls from 9 to 6 balls in form? I still don't think you understand my predicament

I think that if you don't played the player at all is quite possible his form drops like a rock, I think this happened to me a few times when I forget to put youth players coming out of TC to play.

Re: Strange form Update

By killerbeeez (NC) - 05-06-2019 01:46

No I just bought the player with 9 balls in form and very fit with happy face icon. Today he lost three balls for being underplayed not overplayed. This is not normal

darkline wrote:

I think that if you don't played the player at all is quite possible his form drops like a rock, I think this happened to me a few times when I forget to put youth players coming out of TC to play.

No I just bought the player with 9 balls in form and very fit with happy face icon. Today he lost three balls for being underplayed not overplayed. This is not normal

Re: Strange form Update

By disinocht - 05-06-2019 09:48

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It is normal after the update.

killerbeeez wrote:

No I just bought the player with 9 balls in form and very fit with happy face icon. Today he lost three balls for being underplayed not overplayed. This is not normal

It is normal after the update.

Re: Strange form Update

By killerbeeez (NC) - 05-06-2019 10:42

So a player can be fit with 9 balls in form but lose three balls not one or two if he doesnt play for a week? I didn't know this.

disinocht wrote:

It is normal after the update.

So a player can be fit with 9 balls in form but lose three balls not one or two if he doesnt play for a week? I didn't know this.

Re: Strange form Update

By darkline - 05-06-2019 10:57

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President

I know what you said but it doesn't matter if you overplayed or underplayed the player, a player needs to play 6 games to keep his form and your player played 0 games, so he had played 6 games less than what he needs and because of that he lost many balls. Maybe had he played 4 or 5 games his form would have dropped to 8, had he played 2 or 3 the drop would have been to 7 form... but your guy played 0 games so it just seems very possible to see a drastic drop in form.

killerbeeez wrote:

No I just bought the player with 9 balls in form and very fit with happy face icon. Today he lost three balls for being underplayed not overplayed. This is not normal

I know what you said but it doesn't matter if you overplayed or underplayed the player, a player needs to play 6 games to keep his form and your player played 0 games, so he had played 6 games less than what he needs and because of that he lost many balls.

Maybe had he played 4 or 5 games his form would have dropped to 8, had he played 2 or 3 the drop would have been to 7 form... but your guy played 0 games so it just seems very possible to see a drastic drop in form.

Re: Strange form Update

By darkline - 05-06-2019 10:59

[FLUSA]
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Keep in mind also that a player can have from 9.01 form to 9.99, so it's likely your player's form was closer to the bottom end of a 9

killerbeeez wrote:

So a player can be fit with 9 balls in form but lose three balls not one or two if he doesnt play for a week? I didn't know this.

Keep in mind also that a player can have from 9.01 form to 9.99, so it's likely your player's form was closer to the bottom end of a 9

Re: Strange form Update

By killerbeeez (NC) - 05-06-2019 11:01

Yes but how do you explain the drop from 9 balls to 6 balls in one week. He lost three balls not one.

darkline wrote:

Keep in mind also that a player can have from 9.01 form to 9.99, so it's likely your player's form was closer to the bottom end of a 9

Yes but how do you explain the drop from 9 balls to 6 balls in one week. He lost three balls not one.

Re: Strange form Update

By darkline - 05-06-2019 11:07

[FLUSA]
President

If you have a player play 6 more games than he needs by having him play 12 friendlies in a week, you don't think his form will drop to 6/7? Well, you did the opposite, instead of overplaying him 6 games, you underplayed him 6 games... I think it's possible.

killerbeeez wrote:

Yes but how do you explain the drop from 9 balls to 6 balls in one week. He lost three balls not one.

If you have a player play 6 more games than he needs by having him play 12 friendlies in a week, you don't think his form will drop to 6/7? Well, you did the opposite, instead of overplaying him 6 games, you underplayed him 6 games... I think it's possible.

Re: Strange form Update

By killerbeeez (NC) - 05-06-2019 11:25

So you're saying not playing a player for just one week can cause him to lose three form balls? And I bought the player within this week and when he arrived at the club he had 9 balls in form on Monday. Tuesday he drops to 6 balls. Anyway I contacted support so I'll see what they have to say about it.

darkline wrote:

If you have a player play 6 more games than he needs by having him play 12 friendlies in a week, you don't think his form will drop to 6/7? Well, you did the opposite, instead of overplaying him 6 games, you underplayed him 6 games... I think it's possible.

So you're saying not playing a player for just one week can cause him to lose three form balls? And I bought the player within this week and when he arrived at the club he had 9 balls in form on Monday. Tuesday he drops to 6 balls. Anyway I contacted support so I'll see what they have to say about it.

 

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