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Notification for managers having U21 Indian NT players

By theloyalone - 19-06-2018 17:57

this is a notification for all those managers who've got Indian NT players aged 21 ONLY. i'll be removing all current 21 aged Indian NT players, since they've got no use for our next season's Cup preparations, and hence are just warming the squad seats. even extremely deserving U21 players [b]might[/b] have to be removed, in case there's a need to test various players. so, i'd like to beforehand inform all managers about the same, so that you don't suspect foul-play (or whatever you want to call it) on my part in any way. post the mass removal of players aged 21, if there's any manager who's having a fully deserving player (aged 21) whom he wants to sell, they can personally contact me in my GB, and i'll do the needful. this will ensure that you get your appropriate share of bucks for your guys in the market. but i repeat, i will do that ONLY FOR those players who would otherwise have really deserved to be in in the NT. thank you.this is a notification for all those managers who've got Indian NT players aged 21 ONLY. i'll be removing all current 21 aged Indian NT players, since they've got no use for our next season's Cup preparations, and hence are just warming the squad seats. even extremely deserving U21 players might have to be removed, in case there's a need to test various players.

so, i'd like to beforehand inform all managers about the same, so that you don't suspect foul-play (or whatever you want to call it) on my part in any way. post the mass removal of players aged 21, if there's any manager who's having a fully deserving player (aged 21) whom he wants to sell, they can personally contact me in my GB, and i'll do the needful. this will ensure that you get your appropriate share of bucks for your guys in the market. but i repeat, i will do that ONLY FOR those players who would otherwise have really deserved to be in in the NT. thank you.

 

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By jere92 - 20-06-2018 13:07

Getting the appropriate share of bucks is foul play already. U-21 NT marking off seasoned players cos if there was a competition they would have deserved NT place isn't something you should do as a NC. If you have no real use for the player you shouldn't take him into the team. U-21 NT system is a bit stupid for the reason they are played every other season but it's just how it works and managers should know it when they buy/develop players. NC:s might get off seasoned players into the team off season to play friendlies so they do well in them, but you shouldn't go around saying "contact me to get the appropriate share of bucks if the player seems worthy". Any how I bet managers buy NT players for their real potential/use or if there is a competition they want to see their player to play. If there is no competition it won't raise their price. Example: [img]http://mzimage.com/image.php?lang=en&design=1:000000:000000:::&player=Vihtori%2520Karhunen:::19::&atts=10m:5u:1u:0:9m:0:1u:8u:2u:2u:2u:3u:9u&mzv=false[/img] If this boy had 1 more season left to train for U-21 NT he probably would be a sure pick for a team. But as he is off seasoned player his probably not going to make it or that's what i'm guessing right now. Players with this kind of potential are certain to sell high anyway so they don't need the U-21 NT mark to get the share of bucks. By saying that out loud doesn't make it right and i'm not trying to cause any trouble here. Just my point of view and how I managed our NC back in the day. 8... call own or others players to the national team with the main intention to sell them with big profit.Getting the appropriate share of bucks is foul play already.

U-21 NT marking off seasoned players cos if there was a competition they would have deserved NT place isn't something you should do as a NC. If you have no real use for the player you shouldn't take him into the team. U-21 NT system is a bit stupid for the reason they are played every other season but it's just how it works and managers should know it when they buy/develop players. NC:s might get off seasoned players into the team off season to play friendlies so they do well in them, but you shouldn't go around saying "contact me to get the appropriate share of bucks if the player seems worthy".

Any how I bet managers buy NT players for their real potential/use or if there is a competition they want to see their player to play. If there is no competition it won't raise their price.

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If this boy had 1 more season left to train for U-21 NT he probably would be a sure pick for a team. But as he is off seasoned player his probably not going to make it or that's what i'm guessing right now. Players with this kind of potential are certain to sell high anyway so they don't need the U-21 NT mark to get the share of bucks.

By saying that out loud doesn't make it right and i'm not trying to cause any trouble here. Just my point of view and how I managed our NC back in the day.

8... call own or others players to the national team with the main intention to sell them with big profit.

Re: Notification for managers having U21 Indian NT players

By aldebaran - 20-06-2018 14:09

if the player gets transferred listed with open training graph, then where's the foul play in that? also, if someone overbids a player with closed training graph simply because he is on the NT roster, then who's fault is it that he got "tricked"? This rule-> (call own or others players to the national team with the main intention to sell them with big profit), can be "bypassed" with many good explanations from the seller/NT side (except when someone posts about it in the forum :P ) The fault lies solely on the "trigger-happy" and "NT player fanboy" buyerif the player gets transferred listed with open training graph, then where's the foul play in that?

also, if someone overbids a player with closed training graph simply because he is on the NT roster, then who's fault is it that he got "tricked"?

This rule-> (call own or others players to the national team with the main intention to sell them with big profit), can be "bypassed" with many good explanations from the seller/NT side (except when someone posts about it in the forum :P )

The fault lies solely on the "trigger-happy" and "NT player fanboy" buyer

Re: Notification for managers having U21 Indian NT players

By theloyalone - 20-06-2018 20:30

it seems my whole point behind this forum post was missed by you, jere. the only intention i had here was to beforehand inform managers that i'd be removing even deserving NT players, ONLY those aged 21 (so your example of a 19 yr old holds no value here). also, one of the main reasons i put this up here, was coz just recently i'd been contacted by a couple of managers with complaints of why i'd removed a deserving NT player blah blah. so, since i neither have the time nor the inclination to explain myself everytime to everyone (since some even threatened contacting Support lol), i thought a 'Notification' here would do me some real good. also, another thing to be noted here is the difference in the quality of different NT teams. in Estonia, there ain't much difference between a fully developed (21 yr old) NT player and a 19/20 year old, that is, even 19/20 yr old Estonian players can make atleast avg NT players, if not the best. here, it's completely different. the 19 yr old chap u showed us above might be one of the best we could ever afford (as a sub though). so, if i have to remove my current deserving 21 aged NT players just to accommodate some 'nooby' 19-20 yr olds (and i have no option, i tell u), then i should have a pretty good reason to do such a thing. else i might as well kinda end up risking going against the rule - 1...... be unfair when calling players to NT (only relevant part posted) also, just for ur info, more than half of the Indian U21 NT is made up from players belonging to 'new teams' (completely inactive managers). so, even to get the good potential players of such teams transfer-listed, i have to first make them play atleast one NT match, and then can i get them transfer listed. and i hope you know that a NT cannot have more than 40 players. so, just to have some players transfer listed (due to which i have to first add them to NT), i might have to remove many good players. ''If you have no real use for the player you shouldn't take him into the team. U-21 NT system is a bit stupid for the reason they are played every other season but it's just how it works and managers should know it when they buy/develop players.'' maybe true, but there's nothing i see anywhere that gives these statements official validity. i might justify my own actions by saying that since the 'system's stupid', i'm correcting those flaws by letting deserving U21 players get into the team (irrespective of whether or not they have a role to play in the NT Cups). as i said, there's no rule stating 'Only players who can be of use (as in NT Cups) should be taken in.'. It's rather something like 'Any deserving player to be taken in.'. So, as long as i'm taking in only the deserving ones (especially when i'd earlier removed them undeserving ones...not that i had a choice :P), i think there's no problem. last thing about that sentence of yours...well, had you had the privilege of taking a look at our squad, then you'd suggest that i might have no real use for most of the current players. yet, i am forced to keep them, until we get lucky with the system, and they pop a better 'new' player at us. so, it's not as if i have a full super squad at my disposal. it's all about who's good enough for the time being.it seems my whole point behind this forum post was missed by you, jere. the only intention i had here was to beforehand inform managers that i'd be removing even deserving NT players, ONLY those aged 21 (so your example of a 19 yr old holds no value here).

also, one of the main reasons i put this up here, was coz just recently i'd been contacted by a couple of managers with complaints of why i'd removed a deserving NT player blah blah. so, since i neither have the time nor the inclination to explain myself everytime to everyone (since some even threatened contacting Support lol), i thought a 'Notification' here would do me some real good.

also, another thing to be noted here is the difference in the quality of different NT teams. in Estonia, there ain't much difference between a fully developed (21 yr old) NT player and a 19/20 year old, that is, even 19/20 yr old Estonian players can make atleast avg NT players, if not the best. here, it's completely different. the 19 yr old chap u showed us above might be one of the best we could ever afford (as a sub though).

so, if i have to remove my current deserving 21 aged NT players just to accommodate some 'nooby' 19-20 yr olds (and i have no option, i tell u), then i should have a pretty good reason to do such a thing. else i might as well kinda end up risking going against the rule - 1...... be unfair when calling players to NT (only relevant part posted)

also, just for ur info, more than half of the Indian U21 NT is made up from players belonging to 'new teams' (completely inactive managers). so, even to get the good potential players of such teams transfer-listed, i have to first make them play atleast one NT match, and then can i get them transfer listed. and i hope you know that a NT cannot have more than 40 players. so, just to have some players transfer listed (due to which i have to first add them to NT), i might have to remove many good players.

''If you have no real use for the player you shouldn't take him into the team. U-21 NT system is a bit stupid for the reason they are played every other season but it's just how it works and managers should know it when they buy/develop players.''

maybe true, but there's nothing i see anywhere that gives these statements official validity. i might justify my own actions by saying that since the 'system's stupid', i'm correcting those flaws by letting deserving U21 players get into the team (irrespective of whether or not they have a role to play in the NT Cups).

as i said, there's no rule stating 'Only players who can be of use (as in NT Cups) should be taken in.'. It's rather something like 'Any deserving player to be taken in.'. So, as long as i'm taking in only the deserving ones (especially when i'd earlier removed them undeserving ones...not that i had a choice :P), i think there's no problem.

last thing about that sentence of yours...well, had you had the privilege of taking a look at our squad, then you'd suggest that i might have no real use for most of the current players. yet, i am forced to keep them, until we get lucky with the system, and they pop a better 'new' player at us. so, it's not as if i have a full super squad at my disposal. it's all about who's good enough for the time being.

Re: Notification for managers having U21 Indian NT players

By chucky06 - 27-06-2018 16:32

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I’m not sure why you need to remove them mate? I won’t be removing anyone but changing there numbers to 70-99 as you can have a squad of 100 if you really want and removing them all from my tactics. I’ll start scouting 19/20 year old as player numbers 1-30 and nobody loses out. When the roster is cleared all players 21 years will go automatically anyhow and all managers will then have the right to sell there U21’s with the National badge until the new season and the players are then celebrated as servants to the national team till the end.I’m not sure why you need to remove them mate?

I won’t be removing anyone but changing there numbers to 70-99 as you can have a squad of 100 if you really want and removing them all from my tactics.

I’ll start scouting 19/20 year old as player numbers 1-30 and nobody loses out. When the roster is cleared all players 21 years will go automatically anyhow and all managers will then have the right to sell there U21’s with the National badge until the new season and the players are then celebrated as servants to the national team till the end.

Re: Notification for managers having U21 Indian NT players

By evosa - 27-06-2018 17:11

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Actually you can call into national player max. 40 players! I did the same - Removed 21-year olds cuz squad was full at some point! and I think it is up to NC to decide how he manages national team!

chucky06 wrote:

I’m not sure why you need to remove them mate?

I won’t be removing anyone but changing there numbers to 70-99 as you can have a squad of 100 if you really want and removing them all from my tactics.

Actually you can call into national player max. 40 players! I did the same - Removed 21-year olds cuz squad was full at some point! and I think it is up to NC to decide how he manages national team!

Re: Notification for managers having U21 Indian NT players

By theloyalone - 28-06-2018 02:28

evosa answered that perfectly :) only a max of 40 players are allowed, and that's what triggers this problematic situation. had unlimited (or even close to 100) players been allowed, i wouldn't have to remove anyone.

chucky06 wrote:

I’m not sure why you need to remove them mate?

I won’t be removing anyone but changing there numbers to 70-99 as you can have a squad of 100 if you really want and removing them all from my tactics.

I’ll start scouting 19/20 year old as player numbers 1-30 and nobody loses out. When the roster is cleared all players 21 years will go automatically anyhow and all managers will then have the right to sell there U21’s with the National badge until the new season and the players are then celebrated as servants to the national team till the end.

evosa answered that perfectly :) only a max of 40 players are allowed, and that's what triggers this problematic situation. had unlimited (or even close to 100) players been allowed, i wouldn't have to remove anyone.

Re: Notification for managers having U21 Indian NT players

By chucky06 - 28-06-2018 07:32

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President

Ahh i see! 40 players is still a lot though. I'd personally just feel wrong taking away someones status as a national player when they are still eligible if they have legitimate claims. I'd maybe keep my 11 best U21's and then scout the others and next season add 11 more players. If you have 40 players national team worthy U20/19 in India I'd be very impressed :pAhh i see! 40 players is still a lot though. I'd personally just feel wrong taking away someones status as a national player when they are still eligible if they have legitimate claims. I'd maybe keep my 11 best U21's and then scout the others and next season add 11 more players.

If you have 40 players national team worthy U20/19 in India I'd be very impressed :p

 

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