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Division Cup rebalancing

By gudinhospecialone - 28-04-2018 11:37

[TDF]

It's been a little while since the news first got out, but I honestly didn't notice it before today. Apparently the top teams from China is a part of the Division Cup World edition (or whatever it's called now)! My first thought seeing this was "seriously?!" followed up by "this has to be a joke right??" I think we all know how good the top teams from China really are, and how many teams they have that are competitive internationally. So to group them with the teams from the "weakest" region on MZ doesn't really seem fair does it? Even though the numbers of the participants wasn't exactly sky-high before, it was at least a tournament with teams with similar or equal strength. Now the most probable outcome is a Chinese Championship with the "rest of the world" as bystanders. Is that really an improvement? With that being said, I do agree that the Cup format needed to be rebalanced, but I don't think the solution of following the Uxx-grouping is a one-size-fits-all kind of thing. There are regions where the Uxx- grouping of nations work really well ( like Northern Europe etc.), but the grouping for the World edition is not working at all. Look at the percentage of Chinese teams in the Top Division & Div 1 vs. "the rest of the world" and you see how unbalanced it is. I can't speak for everyone, but personally one of the reasons I moved from U23 to Senior, is that just being surrounded by Chinese teams in the U23-league was just as uninspiring as playing in an mostly inactive domestic league. For the Division Cup this season it's most likely too late to change anything, but I hope that crew will consider rebalancing the cups again next season. My suggestion would be to balance it like this: - Top 5 Nations in the world in the same cup(as of right now; Argentina, Brazil, China, Poland and Sweden) - 5-10th place on the national ranking in the same cup(as of right now; Turkey, Romania, Italy, Spain and Portugal) - The rest gets grouped the same way as the Uxx-leagues. This sorting is not gonna be perfect either, but I think it will create more competitive cups and exclude the scenario where a manager from the 94th placed Libanon is grouped with top teams from the 3rd strongest Nation on MZ ;)It's been a little while since the news first got out, but I honestly didn't notice it before today. Apparently the top teams from China is a part of the Division Cup World edition (or whatever it's called now)! My first thought seeing this was "seriously?!" followed up by "this has to be a joke right??"

I think we all know how good the top teams from China really are, and how many teams they have that are competitive internationally. So to group them with the teams from the "weakest" region on MZ doesn't really seem fair does it? Even though the numbers of the participants wasn't exactly sky-high before, it was at least a tournament with teams with similar or equal strength. Now the most probable outcome is a Chinese Championship with the "rest of the world" as bystanders. Is that really an improvement?

With that being said, I do agree that the Cup format needed to be rebalanced, but I don't think the solution of following the Uxx-grouping is a one-size-fits-all kind of thing. There are regions where the Uxx- grouping of nations work really well ( like Northern Europe etc.), but the grouping for the World edition is not working at all. Look at the percentage of Chinese teams in the Top Division & Div 1 vs. "the rest of the world" and you see how unbalanced it is. I can't speak for everyone, but personally one of the reasons I moved from U23 to Senior, is that just being surrounded by Chinese teams in the U23-league was just as uninspiring as playing in an mostly inactive domestic league.

For the Division Cup this season it's most likely too late to change anything, but I hope that crew will consider rebalancing the cups again next season. My suggestion would be to balance it like this:

- Top 5 Nations in the world in the same cup(as of right now; Argentina, Brazil, China, Poland and Sweden)
- 5-10th place on the national ranking in the same cup(as of right now; Turkey, Romania, Italy, Spain and Portugal)
- The rest gets grouped the same way as the Uxx-leagues.

This sorting is not gonna be perfect either, but I think it will create more competitive cups and exclude the scenario where a manager from the 94th placed Libanon is grouped with top teams from the 3rd strongest Nation on MZ ;)

 

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Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By maria171 - 29-04-2018 09:14

[MAS]
President

are you really from south korea? :oare you really from south korea? :o

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By darkline - 29-04-2018 10:45

[FLUSA]
President

I must have missed the news, just found out that now the USA is on a massive top division cup with about 250 top teams from the American continent with about a 100 of them belonging to the top division of their Countries, which means we're now on the largest and possibly hardest of all the top division cups as other regions average 70/80 participants & not that many top division teams. I'm not against rebalancing & readjusting cups a bit but I really prefer the top Canada/Australia/USA cup format since it was a smaller cup and I got used to playing some of this teams, even got some small rivalries going on, now it just feels like any other cup, if there where not enough teams maybe instead of a Top/D1 cup a Top/D1/D2 cup would have worked better or maybe add just Mexico & Central America to it instead of all of America. Anyway, crew will probable get some stats and hopefully based on the numbers & strength of the participants next season they'll tweak the groupings a bit.I must have missed the news, just found out that now the USA is on a massive top division cup with about 250 top teams from the American continent with about a 100 of them belonging to the top division of their Countries, which means we're now on the largest and possibly hardest of all the top division cups as other regions average 70/80 participants & not that many top division teams.

I'm not against rebalancing & readjusting cups a bit but I really prefer the top Canada/Australia/USA cup format since it was a smaller cup and I got used to playing some of this teams, even got some small rivalries going on, now it just feels like any other cup, if there where not enough teams maybe instead of a Top/D1 cup a Top/D1/D2 cup would have worked better or maybe add just Mexico & Central America to it instead of all of America.

Anyway, crew will probable get some stats and hopefully based on the numbers & strength of the participants next season they'll tweak the groupings a bit.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By darkline - 29-04-2018 11:02

[FLUSA]
President

And in hockey it's even worse, we got grouped with Argentina, Brasil & China so it went from a very winnable & enjoyable cup with some rivalries with my Canadian friends to a cup that most likely smaller Countries will be lucky to even make it to playoffs. I think in hockey Argentina & Brasil should be on their own division cup, they have enough teams really.And in hockey it's even worse, we got grouped with Argentina, Brasil & China so it went from a very winnable & enjoyable cup with some rivalries with my Canadian friends to a cup that most likely smaller Countries will be lucky to even make it to playoffs.

I think in hockey Argentina & Brasil should be on their own division cup, they have enough teams really.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By bestplaymaker2134 - 29-04-2018 12:52

[AUSNZ]

Ahh yes, the team that knocked me out of TWO division cup semi finals, until I finally won it on my third try. The AUS, CAN, USA was perfect, we're all culturally similar and it wasn't overly saturated. This division cup update is just retarded honestly

darkline wrote:

I'm not against rebalancing & readjusting cups a bit but I really prefer the top Canada/Australia/USA cup format since it was a smaller cup and I got used to playing some of this teams, even got some small rivalries going on, now it just feels like any other cup, if there where not enough teams maybe instead of a Top/D1 cup a Top/D1/D2 cup would have worked better or maybe add just Mexico & Central America to it instead of all of America.

Ahh yes, the team that knocked me out of TWO division cup semi finals, until I finally won it on my third try. The AUS, CAN, USA was perfect, we're all culturally similar and it wasn't overly saturated.

This division cup update is just retarded honestly

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By bestplaymaker2134 - 29-04-2018 12:54

[AUSNZ]

There are like 20 other international cups. We want more cups for COMMUNITIES.

bestplaymaker2134 wrote:

This division cup update is just retarded honestly

There are like 20 other international cups. We want more cups for COMMUNITIES.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By noild (RA) - 29-04-2018 16:42

[France]

This is a mid tier international cup, the first one. And for example in France we had top div to div 2 and div 3 to div 7 and not enough manager joined the low tier cup so they didn't have cup during 2/3 season ^^ this is better that way

bestplaymaker2134 wrote:

There are like 20 other international cups. We want more cups for COMMUNITIES.

This is a mid tier international cup, the first one.

And for example in France we had top div to div 2 and div 3 to div 7 and not enough manager joined the low tier cup so they didn't have cup during 2/3 season ^^ this is better that way

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By darkline - 29-04-2018 17:09

[FLUSA]
President

@noild But in your case, you had a top-div2 cup just for France, basically you had a 2nd National Cup that excluded anyone under D3, so the new top-d1 cup for France grouped with a few other European Countries like Italy/Greece and a few other smaller Countries makes sense and should be fun for you... but what works for one Country like France, might not work for other Countries, in the USA we didn't had our own div cup, we already had a shared top division cup with Canada/Australia and it was fun and worked fine, didn't need any drastic changes, maybe a Country or two could join us if needed but we really didn't need to share the cup with the whole Continent.@noild

But in your case, you had a top-div2 cup just for France, basically you had a 2nd National Cup that excluded anyone under D3, so the new top-d1 cup for France grouped with a few other European Countries like Italy/Greece and a few other smaller Countries makes sense and should be fun for you... but what works for one Country like France, might not work for other Countries, in the USA we didn't had our own div cup, we already had a shared top division cup with Canada/Australia and it was fun and worked fine, didn't need any drastic changes, maybe a Country or two could join us if needed but we really didn't need to share the cup with the whole Continent.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By moopaman - 01-05-2018 04:11

[Canada]

Yeah I'd rather revert back to old division cup groupings for next season please vs the new ones. Can't speak for others but the AU-CA-US grouping was way better than the current oneYeah I'd rather revert back to old division cup groupings for next season please vs the new ones. Can't speak for others but the AU-CA-US grouping was way better than the current one

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By ozteam - 03-05-2018 15:44

[Eesti]

I can't say for the others, but I think for Northern Europe the rebalancing works. Previously we had "Top Div-Div 3" Cup for Estonia only. It was basically a second National Cup. Now it is "Top Div-Div 1". The lower division teams can now actually play against other lower div teams - so now the cup really has something to do with divisions. But I also support the idea that the Divsion Cups don't become too big, just like any other official cups. I personally am not really interested in group games during big official cups and start tweaking tactics and waching games when my team reaches about top 256 - but for the smaller cups the fun starts right from the group stage.I can't say for the others, but I think for Northern Europe the rebalancing works. Previously we had "Top Div-Div 3" Cup for Estonia only. It was basically a second National Cup. Now it is "Top Div-Div 1". The lower division teams can now actually play against other lower div teams - so now the cup really has something to do with divisions.

But I also support the idea that the Divsion Cups don't become too big, just like any other official cups. I personally am not really interested in group games during big official cups and start tweaking tactics and waching games when my team reaches about top 256 - but for the smaller cups the fun starts right from the group stage.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By darkline - 03-05-2018 16:05

[FLUSA]
President

That's understandable, like France you basically had a 2nd National Cup instead of a Divisional Cup. The USA already had a nice cup shared with Canada/Australia, Countries we relate by language & culture, it was a mid-range fun cup that didn't need any tweaking. Now we are on a Top-D1 cup with 248 other top teams from the following Countries: This cup is for Bolivia: (Top division, Div1) Canada: (Top division, Div1) Chile: (Top division, Div1) Colombia: (Top division, Div1) Costa Rica: (Top division, Div1) Dominican Republic: (Top division, Div1) Ecuador: (Top division, Div1) El Salvador: (Top division, Div1) Guatemala: (Top division, Div1) Honduras: (Top division, Div1) Mexico: (Top division, Div1) Panama: (Top division, Div1) Paraguay: (Top division, Div1) Peru: (Top division, Div1) Trinidad & Tobago: (Top division, Div1) United States: (Top division, Div1) Uruguay: (Top division, Div1) Venezuela: (Top division, Div1) And in Hockey is even worst because it's the same plus Argentina, Brazil & China, so I went from being a "title contender" to "likely not make it out of the group phase" The main grief I have is we lost a nice mid-range community cup in favor of an elite cup, I reckon this "divisional cup" will most likely be a lot harder to make it out of the group than any other open cup, all groups will have top teams from a lot of active Countries and only one team qualifies from it's group.... after the Champions Cup, this will probably be the 2nd hardest cup now, at least for teams in the American Continent. Hopefully this will worked on for next season and smaller groupings of Countries that make more sense will be made.

ozteam wrote:

I can't say for the others, but I think for Northern Europe the rebalancing works. Previously we had "Top Div-Div 3" Cup for Estonia only. It was basically a second National Cup. Now it is "Top Div-Div 1". The lower division teams can now actually play against other lower div teams - so now the cup really has something to do with divisions.

That's understandable, like France you basically had a 2nd National Cup instead of a Divisional Cup. The USA already had a nice cup shared with Canada/Australia, Countries we relate by language & culture, it was a mid-range fun cup that didn't need any tweaking.

Now we are on a Top-D1 cup with 248 other top teams from the following Countries:

This cup is for
Bolivia: (Top division, Div1)
Canada: (Top division, Div1)
Chile: (Top division, Div1)
Colombia: (Top division, Div1)
Costa Rica: (Top division, Div1)
Dominican Republic: (Top division, Div1)
Ecuador: (Top division, Div1)
El Salvador: (Top division, Div1)
Guatemala: (Top division, Div1)
Honduras: (Top division, Div1)
Mexico: (Top division, Div1)
Panama: (Top division, Div1)
Paraguay: (Top division, Div1)
Peru: (Top division, Div1)
Trinidad & Tobago: (Top division, Div1)
United States: (Top division, Div1)
Uruguay: (Top division, Div1)
Venezuela: (Top division, Div1)

And in Hockey is even worst because it's the same plus Argentina, Brazil & China, so I went from being a "title contender" to "likely not make it out of the group phase"

The main grief I have is we lost a nice mid-range community cup in favor of an elite cup, I reckon this "divisional cup" will most likely be a lot harder to make it out of the group than any other open cup, all groups will have top teams from a lot of active Countries and only one team qualifies from it's group.... after the Champions Cup, this will probably be the 2nd hardest cup now, at least for teams in the American Continent.

Hopefully this will worked on for next season and smaller groupings of Countries that make more sense will be made.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By civilu - 03-05-2018 19:48

[RAF]
President

What is Division Cup? Make 8 cups, one for each division, place all teams in each of them and there you have it! Otherwise, it's just a National/Regional Cup... PS: And in this way you get a chance at high level battles at each divisional level - like the International League but a cup.What is Division Cup? Make 8 cups, one for each division, place all teams in each of them and there you have it! Otherwise, it's just a National/Regional Cup...

PS: And in this way you get a chance at high level battles at each divisional level - like the International League but a cup.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By darkline - 03-05-2018 21:30

[FLUSA]
President

But it was always a Regional Cup with teams coming from Countries of similar league strength, that's the fun of it... there is no point in placing a D2 team from lets say Mexico or Canada with D2 teams from Argentina or Brazil, we all know the larger the Country the stronger their lower divisions.

civilu wrote:

What is Division Cup? Make 8 cups, one for each division, place all teams in each of them and there you have it! Otherwise, it's just a National/Regional Cup...

But it was always a Regional Cup with teams coming from Countries of similar league strength, that's the fun of it... there is no point in placing a D2 team from lets say Mexico or Canada with D2 teams from Argentina or Brazil, we all know the larger the Country the stronger their lower divisions.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By noild (RA) - 04-05-2018 10:57

[France]

yeah I understand your point of view. Maybe south america without AR and BR and north America should be split (+AUS) . But for me, this rebalancing is an opportunity to have new rival [;)]. If you have more opponents, you want to improve your self and be a better manager. And it's still easier to reach final stage without those swedish, argentinian, ... ahah [:P] Don't think it's a good idea, as darkline said, in 4th divison of Argentina you have 589 manager. I don't want to imagine a new user from FRANCE or any other smaller country tkae part of this contest ahah

darkline wrote:

That's understandable, like France you basically had a 2nd National Cup instead of a Divisional Cup. The USA already had a nice cup shared with Canada/Australia, Countries we relate by language & culture, it was a mid-range fun cup that didn't need any tweaking.

Now we are on a Top-D1 cup with 248 other top teams from the following Countries:

This cup is for
Bolivia: (Top division, Div1)
Canada: (Top division, Div1)
Chile: (Top division, Div1)
Colombia: (Top division, Div1)
Costa Rica: (Top division, Div1)
Dominican Republic: (Top division, Div1)
Ecuador: (Top division, Div1)
El Salvador: (Top division, Div1)
Guatemala: (Top division, Div1)
Honduras: (Top division, Div1)
Mexico: (Top division, Div1)
Panama: (Top division, Div1)
Paraguay: (Top division, Div1)
Peru: (Top division, Div1)
Trinidad & Tobago: (Top division, Div1)
United States: (Top division, Div1)
Uruguay: (Top division, Div1)
Venezuela: (Top division, Div1)

And in Hockey is even worst because it's the same plus Argentina, Brazil & China, so I went from being a "title contender" to "likely not make it out of the group phase"

The main grief I have is we lost a nice mid-range community cup in favor of an elite cup, I reckon this "divisional cup" will most likely be a lot harder to make it out of the group than any other open cup, all groups will have top teams from a lot of active Countries and only one team qualifies from it's group.... after the Champions Cup, this will probably be the 2nd hardest cup now, at least for teams in the American Continent.

Hopefully this will worked on for next season and smaller groupings of Countries that make more sense will be made.

yeah I understand your point of view. Maybe south america without AR and BR and north America should be split (+AUS) .
But for me, this rebalancing is an opportunity to have new rival . If you have more opponents, you want to improve your self and be a better manager. And it's still easier to reach final stage without those swedish, argentinian, ... ahah

civilu wrote:

What is Division Cup? Make 8 cups, one for each division, place all teams in each of them and there you have it! Otherwise, it's just a National/Regional Cup...

PS: And in this way you get a chance at high level battles at each divisional level - like the International League but a cup.

Don't think it's a good idea, as darkline said, in 4th divison of Argentina you have 589 manager. I don't want to imagine a new user from FRANCE or any other smaller country tkae part of this contest ahah

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By darkline - 04-05-2018 11:45

[FLUSA]
President

The rebalancing will have a positive impact on some Countries and a negative impact on others, the issue I think is they went with a "one size fit all" solution instead of doing a detailed analysis. For example, Romania & Poland are Countries of similar strength, both have their own boring divisional cups which are basically a scaled down version of the National Cup, wouldn't it be better to mix them and have a Top-D1 Romania/Poland Cup? And same with Brazil/Argentina? Give them something new to play that still feels like a community cup & create new rivalities? On the other side of the spectrum is the case of USA & other mid-sized or small communities, we had our nice little cup with enough teams to make them entertaining, in the groups you would get your familiar USA/Canada/Australia teams, it was cool to get to play them once a season and kind of see how our teams compared to theirs. Now this got lost & diluted with teams from too many different Countries. Maybe, it wasn't working for D2/D3 and below? Not enough teams in lower divisions? Then create a D2/D3 cup adding more Countries... not necessarily the grouping for the top-d1 cup needs to be the same as for the D2 or D3 cup. To illustrate the problem, with the new rebalanced divisional cups, the Americas Top-D1 cup is overcrowded, the Americas D2 cup looks pretty good with 97 teams, which is a good number and the Americas D3-D7 Cup even with the rebalancing looks empty and has only 20 teams, so how to fix this? I'll say Top-D1 Cup - USA/Canada/Australia D2 Cup - Americas D3-D7 Cup - Group all regions with few participants - cups with less than 20 teams (Americas + Northern Europe + Central Europe) + Countries that are on unfair groupings (Australia D3 for example on China's D3 cup) Anyway, sometimes when you make changes trying to improve things there are unforeseen consequences, it's good that crew is trying to make this cups evolve since obviously for some Countries like France they where not working, but I'm hoping for next season when they get all the stats & see how this experiment goes, they'll tweak the divisional cups a bit & rebalance them where needed.

noild wrote:

But for me, this rebalancing is an opportunity to have new rival ;). If you have more opponents, you want to improve your self and be a better manager. And it's still easier to reach final stage without those swedish, argentinian, ... ahah :P

The rebalancing will have a positive impact on some Countries and a negative impact on others, the issue I think is they went with a "one size fit all" solution instead of doing a detailed analysis.

For example, Romania & Poland are Countries of similar strength, both have their own boring divisional cups which are basically a scaled down version of the National Cup, wouldn't it be better to mix them and have a Top-D1 Romania/Poland Cup? And same with Brazil/Argentina? Give them something new to play that still feels like a community cup & create new rivalities?

On the other side of the spectrum is the case of USA & other mid-sized or small communities, we had our nice little cup with enough teams to make them entertaining, in the groups you would get your familiar USA/Canada/Australia teams, it was cool to get to play them once a season and kind of see how our teams compared to theirs. Now this got lost & diluted with teams from too many different Countries. Maybe, it wasn't working for D2/D3 and below? Not enough teams in lower divisions? Then create a D2/D3 cup adding more Countries... not necessarily the grouping for the top-d1 cup needs to be the same as for the D2 or D3 cup.

To illustrate the problem, with the new rebalanced divisional cups, the Americas Top-D1 cup is overcrowded, the Americas D2 cup looks pretty good with 97 teams, which is a good number and the Americas D3-D7 Cup even with the rebalancing looks empty and has only 20 teams, so how to fix this? I'll say

Top-D1 Cup - USA/Canada/Australia
D2 Cup - Americas
D3-D7 Cup - Group all regions with few participants - cups with less than 20 teams (Americas + Northern Europe + Central Europe) + Countries that are on unfair groupings (Australia D3 for example on China's D3 cup)

Anyway, sometimes when you make changes trying to improve things there are unforeseen consequences, it's good that crew is trying to make this cups evolve since obviously for some Countries like France they where not working, but I'm hoping for next season when they get all the stats & see how this experiment goes, they'll tweak the divisional cups a bit & rebalance them where needed.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By aikaik (Crew) - 08-05-2018 13:51

[MZS]
President

Hi there guys! [:)] The main purpose with the rebalancing make sure that all cups will get enough participants, without having cups cancelled due to too few participants. We chose to follow the Youth League dividing of countries/regions because we already have that grouping in the Youth Leagues, which both saved us time (that we did not have before the cups was to be started) as well as it solved our main purpose - to get enough participants per cup. The new change benefits some countries/regions/managers, while others believe the new setup is awful.Of course, we are open to suggestions to further improve the grouping and the division cups in general. Please keep discuss and come up with ideas, and we'll try to make some improvements for the next season's cup if there is time (vacation periods in mid July means less workforce) and we believe that a change could be beneficial. Regards, RobertHi there guys!

The main purpose with the rebalancing make sure that all cups will get enough participants, without having cups cancelled due to too few participants. We chose to follow the Youth League dividing of countries/regions because we already have that grouping in the Youth Leagues, which both saved us time (that we did not have before the cups was to be started) as well as it solved our main purpose - to get enough participants per cup.

The new change benefits some countries/regions/managers, while others believe the new setup is awful.Of course, we are open to suggestions to further improve the grouping and the division cups in general.

Please keep discuss and come up with ideas, and we'll try to make some improvements for the next season's cup if there is time (vacation periods in mid July means less workforce) and we believe that a change could be beneficial.

Regards,
Robert

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By chucky06 - 08-05-2018 15:12

[AUSNZ]
President

I definitely would have been open to adding some countries to the grouping but China? Come on... Make the Cups based on Countries National rankings #1-3 National ranking in one cup. #3-8 in the next, #8-15 then, gradually increasing to account for less active managers as you go down the countries. That national ranking system is terribly outdated too but would be better than what’s been implementedI definitely would have been open to adding some countries to the grouping but China? Come on...

Make the Cups based on Countries National rankings #1-3 National ranking in one cup. #3-8 in the next, #8-15 then, gradually increasing to account for less active managers as you go down the countries. That national ranking system is terribly outdated too but would be better than what’s been implemented

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By darkline - 09-05-2018 00:38

[FLUSA]
President

@Robert Is a first good step towards improving the cups, you have to start somewhere, I think the most important thing is to create fair groupings with Countries with similar numbers of users. I don't think I can improve on the idea much from my last post, the main idea is that Countries/Divisions of similar strength should be grouped together to make this divisional cups more entertaining and fun for all the participants.@Robert

Is a first good step towards improving the cups, you have to start somewhere, I think the most important thing is to create fair groupings with Countries with similar numbers of users.

I don't think I can improve on the idea much from my last post, the main idea is that Countries/Divisions of similar strength should be grouped together to make this divisional cups more entertaining and fun for all the participants.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By azkaban-za - 07-06-2018 00:14

[ᴀғяιcᴀ]
President

I only recommend the removal of China to give balance, the Chinese are very strong and with a very strong domestic market, different from the other countries included in the cup Division Cup Season 66 - World Top-Div1 This cup is for Algeria: (Top division, Div1) Angola: (Top division, Div1) Australia: (Top division, Div1) Bangladesh: (Top division, Div1) [b]China: (Top division, Div1)[/b] Egypt: (Top division, Div1) India: (Top division, Div1) Indonesia: (Top division, Div1) Iran: (Top division, Div1) Jordan: (Top division, Div1) Kazakhstan: (Top division, Div1) Kenya: (Top division, Div1) Kuwait: (Top division, Div1) Kyrgyzstan: (Top division, Div1) Lebanon: (Top division, Div1) Malaysia: (Top division, Div1) Morocco: (Top division, Div1) MZ Country: (Top division, Div1) Nigeria: (Top division, Div1) Pakistan: (Top division, Div1) Philippines: (Top division, Div1) Saudi Arabia: (Top division, Div1) Senegal: (Top division, Div1) Singapore: (Top division, Div1) South Africa: (Top division, Div1) South Korea: (Top division, Div1) Thailand: (Top division, Div1) Tunisia: (Top division, Div1) United Arab Emirates: (Top division, Div1) Vietnam: (Top division, Div1).I only recommend the removal of China to give balance, the Chinese are very strong and with a very strong domestic market, different from the other countries included in the cup

Division Cup Season 66 - World Top-Div1

This cup is for
Algeria: (Top division, Div1)
Angola: (Top division, Div1)
Australia: (Top division, Div1)
Bangladesh: (Top division, Div1)
China: (Top division, Div1)
Egypt: (Top division, Div1)
India: (Top division, Div1)
Indonesia: (Top division, Div1)
Iran: (Top division, Div1)
Jordan: (Top division, Div1)
Kazakhstan: (Top division, Div1)
Kenya: (Top division, Div1)
Kuwait: (Top division, Div1)
Kyrgyzstan: (Top division, Div1)
Lebanon: (Top division, Div1)
Malaysia: (Top division, Div1)
Morocco: (Top division, Div1)
MZ Country: (Top division, Div1)
Nigeria: (Top division, Div1)
Pakistan: (Top division, Div1)
Philippines: (Top division, Div1)
Saudi Arabia: (Top division, Div1)
Senegal: (Top division, Div1)
Singapore: (Top division, Div1)
South Africa: (Top division, Div1)
South Korea: (Top division, Div1)
Thailand: (Top division, Div1)
Tunisia: (Top division, Div1)
United Arab Emirates: (Top division, Div1)
Vietnam: (Top division, Div1).

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By azkaban-za - 07-06-2018 00:16

[ᴀғяιcᴀ]
President

I wish there was improvement in the youth league, removing China, but I have no idea how to do that right now.I wish there was improvement in the youth league, removing China, but I have no idea how to do that right now.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By aikaik (Crew) - 24-07-2018 11:26

[MZS]
President

So after reviewing last season's participants and looking back at previous grouping of the division cups we have come up with the following conclusion: [b]Football[/b] [i]- China have been removed from 'World' and added to an own cup again. - USA, Canada and Trinidad & Tobago have been moved from 'Americas' to 'World' - 'World' division grouping have been changed to get enough participants in all cups: 'Top-div1' + 'div2-6' - 'Americas' has been renamed 'Latin Amrica'[/i] [b]Hockey[/b] [i]After analysing different options we decided to not make any changes for now. We did not find any good solution that will be beneficial enough for the majority of countries and do not want to rush into any decision. Further evaluation can be done in the future.[/i] Regards, RobertSo after reviewing last season's participants and looking back at previous grouping of the division cups we have come up with the following conclusion:

Football
- China have been removed from 'World' and added to an own cup again.
- USA, Canada and Trinidad & Tobago have been moved from 'Americas' to 'World'
- 'World' division grouping have been changed to get enough participants in all cups: 'Top-div1' + 'div2-6'
- 'Americas' has been renamed 'Latin Amrica'

Hockey
After analysing different options we decided to not make any changes for now. We did not find any good solution that will be beneficial enough for the majority of countries and do not want to rush into any decision. Further evaluation can be done in the future.

Regards,
Robert

Sv: Division Cup rebalancing

By manekaster - 24-07-2018 18:28

[TDF]
President

Well done so far, and thanks for listening to the community. I’m sure the involved managers will provide further feedback as the cup progresses.Well done so far, and thanks for listening to the community. I’m sure the involved managers will provide further feedback as the cup progresses.

Re: Division Cup rebalancing

By aemi - 24-07-2018 20:37

[Canada]

The winner of the cups should get a real kangaroo and a set of pet diapers, because we all know kanga poops a lot, everywhere. That's why the Aussies have all that desert.The winner of the cups should get a real kangaroo and a set of pet diapers, because we all know kanga poops a lot, everywhere. That's why the Aussies have all that desert.

 

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