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Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By ghimpisoru - 06-07-2017 22:01

[LEGEND]

http://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&tid=842757&mid=938662691 U18 Season Cup final, chances: 10-4 (13-6), score 1-2. The level of random in MZ has reached its max. This is simply a lottery ! One more step closer to leave MZ after 10 (real) years. Simply pathetic !http://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&tid=842757&mid=938662691

U18 Season Cup final, chances: 10-4 (13-6), score 1-2.
The level of random in MZ has reached its max. This is simply a lottery !
One more step closer to leave MZ after 10 (real) years.
Simply pathetic !

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Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By yahmum - 19-07-2017 14:31

[AUSNZ]

I can't give you a good reason not to leave.... There's plenty to leave but not many to stay except for nostalgia of playing the game on and off for many years tbh lol. I've come back to play the game but not as I use to but just to pass the time. The game has long been on a downward spiral as the crew have have gotten greedier and greedier over time with the shambles that is Club Membership, MZ has come one of them games where you don't have to spend to play but it's definitely a pay to win game.I can't give you a good reason not to leave.... There's plenty to leave but not many to stay except for nostalgia of playing the game on and off for many years tbh lol.

I've come back to play the game but not as I use to but just to pass the time. The game has long been on a downward spiral as the crew have have gotten greedier and greedier over time with the shambles that is Club Membership, MZ has come one of them games where you don't have to spend to play but it's definitely a pay to win game.

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By dowopado - 19-07-2017 18:07

[BotP]

It was never defined.

aldebaran wrote:

define occasionally...

It was never defined.

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By ghimpisoru - 19-07-2017 19:44

[LEGEND]

I could't say it better ! I totally agree with you 100%

yahmum wrote:

There's plenty to leave but not many to stay except for nostalgia of playing the game on and off for many years

I could't say it better ! I totally agree with you 100%

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By ghimpisoru - 20-07-2017 19:59

[LEGEND]

Just won 2-1 against China's senior first league leader. http://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=937900449 Pfffffff.. Suddenly when i meet a stronger opponent i win against scoring chances. Now my keeper and strikers are good. Wait till i meet a weaker team... This is hilarious, something must be done !Just won 2-1 against China's senior first league leader.
http://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=937900449

Pfffffff..
Suddenly when i meet a stronger opponent i win against scoring chances. Now my keeper and strikers are good. Wait till i meet a weaker team... This is hilarious, something must be done !

Ce: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By legendaryboy52 - 20-07-2017 23:19

[GS]

Same here!!! I shared these 2 matches above: https://i.hizliresim.com/8dz1Ln.png https://i.hizliresim.com/zBM4y7.png My keeper was so bad against this team twice but look at the Top World League now! I played 4 matches and same keeper suddenly shows great performances! 4 matches played and he had [b]45/2[/b] shoot/goal rate! What happened to him now? A weak team scored against him easily in 2 matches but 4 Top World League teams can't! Seriously? Oww i think he likes big matches, i talked to him and he said me that :) That's not SIM's fault, it's totally because of him [:P]

ghimpisoru wrote:

Just won 2-1 against China's senior first league leader.
http://www.managerzone.com/?p=match&sub=result&mid=937900449

Pfffffff..
Suddenly when i meet a stronger opponent i win against scoring chances. Now my keeper and strikers are good. Wait till i meet a weaker team... This is hilarious, something must be done !

Same here!!!

I shared these 2 matches above:

https://i.hizliresim.com/8dz1Ln.png
https://i.hizliresim.com/zBM4y7.png

My keeper was so bad against this team twice but look at the Top World League now!

I played 4 matches and same keeper suddenly shows great performances! 4 matches played and he had 45/2 shoot/goal rate!

What happened to him now? A weak team scored against him easily in 2 matches but 4 Top World League teams can't! Seriously? Oww i think he likes big matches, i talked to him and he said me that :) That's not SIM's fault, it's totally because of him :P

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By ghimpisoru - 20-07-2017 23:37

[LEGEND]

I hope Crew reads this and maybe realize what a circus they made out of this game. The random needs to be fixed, it makes no sense anymore.I hope Crew reads this and maybe realize what a circus they made out of this game. The random needs to be fixed, it makes no sense anymore.

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By scruttino - 21-07-2017 04:01

[AUSNZ]

I didn't mind the the older system of knowing a better team would beat you, because you knew that as your team improved the losing margins woulds reduce and eventually turn into wins. That is still true to an extent, but you have games where 9 form players walk out on to the pitch and look as if they are completely out of form, and not just one or two players. The whole side appear to be sleep walking. It doesn't matter what tactic you play or where your players are on the field, you just won't win. It's the Random Number Generator factor which if you have ever played open world video games, you'll know a RNG can always be broken or hacked somehow by do certain action in certain orders to increase spawning chances. But, just that no one has as yet been able break the RNG for this game, largely because it's not open world; we can only train so many meaningful skills, and the sim itself is scripted using programming that's becoming increasingly obsolete.I didn't mind the the older system of knowing a better team would beat you, because you knew that as your team improved the losing margins woulds reduce and eventually turn into wins. That is still true to an extent, but you have games where 9 form players walk out on to the pitch and look as if they are completely out of form, and not just one or two players. The whole side appear to be sleep walking. It doesn't matter what tactic you play or where your players are on the field, you just won't win.

It's the Random Number Generator factor which if you have ever played open world video games, you'll know a RNG can always be broken or hacked somehow by do certain action in certain orders to increase spawning chances.

But, just that no one has as yet been able break the RNG for this game, largely because it's not open world; we can only train so many meaningful skills, and the sim itself is scripted using programming that's becoming increasingly obsolete.

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By hassebrasse - 11-08-2017 15:39

[LEGEND]

I dont want to come out to bitter. But the only thing the chances vs scoring says is how many balls the player have in shooting and goalkeeping. The biggest problem is that the odds of 2 attackers with 10 in shooting suddenly dont score in 15-20 chances must be astronomical. Yet it happends alot. If you want to draw a line to real life matches saying it happends, its not realy true. 10 in shooting in real life is like saying Messi, Suarez or Aguero can miss 15 1vs1 against a goalkeeper. I cant even say thay Ive seen them missed that in all of there matches. And this is not Hockey. It doesent matter who you have between your post. If they have a clear 1vs1, you can increase the scoreboard before the shoot even left the foot. But this is how the game is, and it will probebly take a long time before a new sim is realeased. Personaly I think its frustrating to see and I cant see how this benefits any managers. The goal is the build a better team then your opponents and make them fit perfectly to your playing style. But when that hardly matters in the end, I cant see any point in playing. There is tons of mobile games, pc games and all kind of games that favours skill and dedication. That being said, Im not leaving this game and have no desire to do so either. Im trying to give a neutral view of this situation. I still think the best team wins more often then not and there are actually many formations and playingstyles avalible now daysI dont want to come out to bitter. But the only thing the chances vs scoring says is how many balls the player have in shooting and goalkeeping.

The biggest problem is that the odds of 2 attackers with 10 in shooting suddenly dont score in 15-20 chances must be astronomical. Yet it happends alot.

If you want to draw a line to real life matches saying it happends, its not realy true. 10 in shooting in real life is like saying Messi, Suarez or Aguero can miss 15 1vs1 against a goalkeeper. I cant even say thay Ive seen them missed that in all of there matches. And this is not Hockey. It doesent matter who you have between your post. If they have a clear 1vs1, you can increase the scoreboard before the shoot even left the foot.

But this is how the game is, and it will probebly take a long time before a new sim is realeased. Personaly I think its frustrating to see and I cant see how this benefits any managers. The goal is the build a better team then your opponents and make them fit perfectly to your playing style. But when that hardly matters in the end, I cant see any point in playing. There is tons of mobile games, pc games and all kind of games that favours skill and dedication.

That being said, Im not leaving this game and have no desire to do so either. Im trying to give a neutral view of this situation. I still think the best team wins more often then not and there are actually many formations and playingstyles avalible now days

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By dowopado - 11-08-2017 17:58

[BotP]

@hassebrasse...Well said, Sir Daniel.[H] "I still think the best team wins more often then not"...me too.@hassebrasse...Well said, Sir Daniel.H "I still think the best team wins more often then not"...me too.

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By michael9599 - 12-08-2017 17:59

[PSCF]

Chelsea were down to 9 men although despite being the better team and champions of England, lost to Burnley! This proves that red cards still ruin games and weaker teams still beat the stronger ones, despite Chelsea having 65% possession and twice as many shots! Give me one good reason why I should keep being alive if results are as random as this! >:(Chelsea were down to 9 men although despite being the better team and champions of England, lost to Burnley! This proves that red cards still ruin games and weaker teams still beat the stronger ones, despite Chelsea having 65% possession and twice as many shots! Give me one good reason why I should keep being alive if results are as random as this! >:(

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By dowopado - 12-08-2017 20:17

[BotP]

Because soccer/football is a game of emotions (sad or happy)...not a game of life or death![:O]

michael9599 wrote:

Give me one good reason why I should keep being alive if results are as random as this! >:(

Because soccer/football is a game of emotions (sad or happy)...not a game of life or death!:O

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By luckyjoe - 18-09-2017 23:08

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*** [color=red]You have posted the same thing on a different thread Aurel[/color]***

You have posted the same thing on a different thread

Aurel

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Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By civilu - 18-09-2017 23:30

[RAF]
President

Because it's no fun without the training report in the morning.Because it's no fun without the training report in the morning.

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By managerknugen - 23-10-2017 20:01

[MZ]

Like in the real game there will always be games where the best team loses unfairly. And that is a good thing, as the alternative would be that the game would be a total mathematical affair. What fun would that be?Like in the real game there will always be games where the best team loses unfairly. And that is a good thing, as the alternative would be that the game would be a total mathematical affair. What fun would that be?

Re: Give me one good reason why i should keep playing this game

By aldebaran - 23-10-2017 20:50

how about a game of 40% tactics, 40% mathematics (skill) and 20% (or even less) simple luck?how about a game of 40% tactics, 40% mathematics (skill) and 20% (or even less) simple luck?

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