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Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By dowopado - 28-06-2017 22:57

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Chile goalkeeper Bravo saves the first 3 attempted penalty shots by Portugal to advance Chile to the finals.Chile goalkeeper Bravo saves the first 3 attempted penalty shots by Portugal to advance Chile to the finals.

 

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Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By aemi - 29-06-2017 20:57

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Fire him, while you are at it, fire the rest of the team too. RIP Portugal's dreamFire him, while you are at it, fire the rest of the team too.

RIP Portugal's dream

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By heddo - 30-06-2017 03:55

I cant remember this being done before , should he be awarded a golden glove , it should not go unnoticed surely..I cant remember this being done before , should he be awarded a golden glove , it should not go unnoticed surely..

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By dowopado - 30-06-2017 06:07

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I agree.

heddo wrote:

I cant remember this being done before , should he be awarded a golden glove , it should not go unnoticed surely..

I agree.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By albeagle - 30-06-2017 18:26

The confederations cup is a worthless trophy. I don't believe Portugal shed a tear for losing. Well see how they do in the world cup. I think they'll disappoint and Chile is not any better either.The confederations cup is a worthless trophy. I don't believe Portugal shed a tear for losing. Well see how they do in the world cup. I think they'll disappoint and Chile is not any better either.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By dowopado - 30-06-2017 21:29

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The Confederation Cup may be worthless in your eyes but still the feat that Bravo accomplished deserves some recognition...[H]

albeagle wrote:

The confederations cup is a worthless trophy. I don't believe Portugal shed a tear for losing. Well see how they do in the world cup. I think they'll disappoint and Chile is not any better either.

The Confederation Cup may be worthless in your eyes but still the feat that Bravo accomplished deserves some recognition...H

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By azkaban-za - 30-06-2017 22:01

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I also agree [H]

heddo wrote:

I cant remember this being done before , should he be awarded a golden glove , it should not go unnoticed surely..

I also agree H

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By albeagle - 01-07-2017 17:23

They advanced isn't that enough? I didn't watch it but Im sure he saved some weak pk's. If you hit them right there is no chance for the keepers.

dowopado wrote:

the feat that Bravo accomplished deserves some recognition...H

They advanced isn't that enough? I didn't watch it but Im sure he saved some weak pk's. If you hit them right there is no chance for the keepers.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By darkline - 02-07-2017 21:13

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Portugal is a really weak team, they where just extremely lucky on the Eurocup, first they qualify from their group without winning a single match, then on the playoffs they get a lucky draw and only play weak teams, and even then they still couldn't win a match all the way to the semifinals, tying Switzerland & Poland and beating them on penalties, and they get a semifinal against Wales which is really not the sort of team you'd expect to face on a semifinal of an Eurocup, then France just totally dominated them on the final but Portugal just was extremely lucky and got one goal on overtime. Not necessarily, I watched the game and they where good PKs, the keeper can study the PK takers before the game, some keepers do that, that Bravo guy is particularly good at PKs, Chile is not a good team but they're good at PKs, they got the Copa America & Centenario just by getting to PKs and having Bravo save a few.

albeagle wrote:

The confederations cup is a worthless trophy. I don't believe Portugal shed a tear for losing. Well see how they do in the world cup. I think they'll disappoint and Chile is not any better either.

Portugal is a really weak team, they where just extremely lucky on the Eurocup, first they qualify from their group without winning a single match, then on the playoffs they get a lucky draw and only play weak teams, and even then they still couldn't win a match all the way to the semifinals, tying Switzerland & Poland and beating them on penalties, and they get a semifinal against Wales which is really not the sort of team you'd expect to face on a semifinal of an Eurocup, then France just totally dominated them on the final but Portugal just was extremely lucky and got one goal on overtime.

albeagle wrote:

They advanced isn't that enough? I didn't watch it but Im sure he saved some weak pk's. If you hit them right there is no chance for the keepers.

Not necessarily, I watched the game and they where good PKs, the keeper can study the PK takers before the game, some keepers do that, that Bravo guy is particularly good at PKs, Chile is not a good team but they're good at PKs, they got the Copa America & Centenario just by getting to PKs and having Bravo save a few.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By albeagle - 03-07-2017 18:36

I wouldn't say really weak. Yea they got lucky but you still have to be somewhat decent to win the Euro. Poland and Switzerland are no pushovers. They have Ronaldo after all. Portugal have decent players, they are no world beaters though. If you hit it with power and the right area there is no way the keeper can stop it. S

darkline wrote:

Portugal is a really weak team,

I wouldn't say really weak. Yea they got lucky but you still have to be somewhat decent to win the Euro. Poland and Switzerland are no pushovers. They have Ronaldo after all. Portugal have decent players, they are no world beaters though.

darkline wrote:

Not necessarily, I watched the game and they where good PKs, the keeper can study the PK takers before the game, some keepers do that, that Bravo guy is particularly good at PKs, Chile is not a good team but they're good at PKs, they got the Copa America & Centenario just by getting to PKs and having Bravo save a few.

If you hit it with power and the right area there is no way the keeper can stop it. S

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By darkline - 03-07-2017 20:51

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Well, they couldn't beat Iceland, Austria, Hungary and Switzerland or Poland (that they beat on PKs) are no Germany, Spain, Italy, etc... decent teams but not world class teams. You can dive on the right direction a split second before the striker makes contact with the ball, which is what Bravo did to save two powerful PKs aimed at the lower corner of the goal.

albeagle wrote:

I wouldn't say really weak. Yea they got lucky but you still have to be somewhat decent to win the Euro. Poland and Switzerland are no pushovers.

Well, they couldn't beat Iceland, Austria, Hungary and Switzerland or Poland (that they beat on PKs) are no Germany, Spain, Italy, etc... decent teams but not world class teams.

albeagle wrote:

If you hit it with power and the right area there is no way the keeper can stop it. S

You can dive on the right direction a split second before the striker makes contact with the ball, which is what Bravo did to save two powerful PKs aimed at the lower corner of the goal.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By moopaman - 04-07-2017 04:39

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You mean Croatia, not Switzerland. Croatia looked like the best team in the tournament based purely on their group stage performances, so going past them was no mean feat, no matter how extremely ugly they played. And against France they had the better chances in extra time, they played not to lose sure but other than the Gignac chance, I don't remember any other particularly big France close callsYou mean Croatia, not Switzerland.

Croatia looked like the best team in the tournament based purely on their group stage performances, so going past them was no mean feat, no matter how extremely ugly they played. And against France they had the better chances in extra time, they played not to lose sure but other than the Gignac chance, I don't remember any other particularly big France close calls

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By darkline - 04-07-2017 09:12

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Yes, I meant Croatia, still they had a very lucky draw for the playoffs, one one side of the France, Germany, Spain, Italy, England had to battle if off all the way to the final, on Portugal's side of the bracket there wasn't any of the traditionally strong teams and even some surprising results helped them avoid potentially better teams. Anyway, this confederations Cup, Chile beat Portugal and then Germany B team with a roster full of young players beat Chile.... so a B team won this cup, kind of proving the point that neither Chile or Portugal are particularly strong NTs regardless of their wins on the Euro/America cups.Yes, I meant Croatia, still they had a very lucky draw for the playoffs, one one side of the France, Germany, Spain, Italy, England had to battle if off all the way to the final, on Portugal's side of the bracket there wasn't any of the traditionally strong teams and even some surprising results helped them avoid potentially better teams.

Anyway, this confederations Cup, Chile beat Portugal and then Germany B team with a roster full of young players beat Chile.... so a B team won this cup, kind of proving the point that neither Chile or Portugal are particularly strong NTs regardless of their wins on the Euro/America cups.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By albeagle - 04-07-2017 17:23

It doesn't mean much that they couldn't beat those teams. Look at Italy they've struggle also in the group stages. But in their best day they were capable of beating anyone. All the big teams lose. And France had home field advantage in the final, no wounder they were the better team. Portugal are just below the top teams thats how they've always been. Them and the Netherlands.

darkline wrote:

Well, they couldn't beat Iceland, Austria, Hungary and Switzerland or Poland (that they beat on PKs) are no Germany, Spain, Italy, etc... decent teams but not world class teams.

It doesn't mean much that they couldn't beat those teams. Look at Italy they've struggle also in the group stages. But in their best day they were capable of beating anyone. All the big teams lose. And France had home field advantage in the final, no wounder they were the better team. Portugal are just below the top teams thats how they've always been. Them and the Netherlands.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By dowopado - 04-07-2017 18:10

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Germany just keeps winning and winning...they must surely have a model program for development of players, or their players are born with a soccer ball from the womb.Germany just keeps winning and winning...they must surely have a model program for development of players, or their players are born with a soccer ball from the womb.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By darkline - 04-07-2017 21:37

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Regardless, it was the weakest winner of an Eurocup in history and this Eurocup as a whole was pretty poor which allowed even semi-amateur teams like Iceland to progress from the group, Greece 2004 was even better and they actually managed to beat Portugal twice that time around, first in the group and then on the final. Don't know about that, is weird, if you check the youth world cups, Germany never even made Top 4 on any of the U20 World Cups. This German team wasn't great neither but of course it was their B team so it was good for what it was, don't know if you watched the game but I don't remember ever watching so many defensive errors even at club level, let alone NT level, the goal came from a bad back pass from a Chilean defender, but there plenty of poor passes in defense that could have ended in goal, poor marking, poor finishing, just a bad game overall.

albeagle wrote:

It doesn't mean much that they couldn't beat those teams. Look at Italy they've struggle also in the group stages. But in their best day they were capable of beating anyone. All the big teams lose. And France had home field advantage in the final, no wounder they were the better team. Portugal are just below the top teams thats how they've always been. Them and the Netherlands.

Regardless, it was the weakest winner of an Eurocup in history and this Eurocup as a whole was pretty poor which allowed even semi-amateur teams like Iceland to progress from the group, Greece 2004 was even better and they actually managed to beat Portugal twice that time around, first in the group and then on the final.

dowopado wrote:

Germany just keeps winning and winning...they must surely have a model program for development of players, or their players are born with a soccer ball from the womb.

Don't know about that, is weird, if you check the youth world cups, Germany never even made Top 4 on any of the U20 World Cups.

This German team wasn't great neither but of course it was their B team so it was good for what it was, don't know if you watched the game but I don't remember ever watching so many defensive errors even at club level, let alone NT level, the goal came from a bad back pass from a Chilean defender, but there plenty of poor passes in defense that could have ended in goal, poor marking, poor finishing, just a bad game overall.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By dowopado - 04-07-2017 22:21

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Yeah. I watched the game...it was very frustrating to watch because basically Chile gave them the game...but Germany seems to always catch those breaks at the right times...I kept thinking Germany is very lucky...even though they seem to be so methodical with their passes, movement on the field, and control...is it their style that wins the games, or just pure luck???Yeah. I watched the game...it was very frustrating to watch because basically Chile gave them the game...but Germany seems to always catch those breaks at the right times...I kept thinking Germany is very lucky...even though they seem to be so methodical with their passes, movement on the field, and control...is it their style that wins the games, or just pure luck???

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Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By albeagle - 05-07-2017 04:14

Greece was the weakest winner. How they won was a miracle. Portugal winning was not such a surprise. Must be all the immigrants coming in from all the 3rd world, its enriching the gene pool.

darkline wrote:

Regardless, it was the weakest winner of an Eurocup in history

Greece was the weakest winner. How they won was a miracle. Portugal winning was not such a surprise.

dowopado wrote:

Germany just keeps winning and winning...they must surely have a model program for development of players, or their players are born with a soccer ball from the womb.

Must be all the immigrants coming in from all the 3rd world, its enriching the gene pool.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By darkline - 05-07-2017 11:01

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They won their cup winning the matches on the field, it was a weak Champion but I still place them above Portugal. It never ceases to amuse me when you make this sort of comment, specially when you come from a third world Country with a muslim majority. In any case, they do have a lot of players on the NT whose parents come from the Middle East, Shkodran Mustafi, Benjamin Henrichs (Ghana), Kerem Demirbay, Emre Can, Amin Younes, etc. etc. So yes, you could say their gene pool was enriched by the immigration and that probably helped them as a Country beyond just football.

albeagle wrote:

Greece was the weakest winner. How they won was a miracle. Portugal winning was not such a surprise.

They won their cup winning the matches on the field, it was a weak Champion but I still place them above Portugal.

albeagle wrote:

Must be all the immigrants coming in from all the 3rd world, its enriching the gene pool.

It never ceases to amuse me when you make this sort of comment, specially when you come from a third world Country with a muslim majority.

In any case, they do have a lot of players on the NT whose parents come from the Middle East, Shkodran Mustafi, Benjamin Henrichs (Ghana), Kerem Demirbay, Emre Can, Amin Younes, etc. etc.

So yes, you could say their gene pool was enriched by the immigration and that probably helped them as a Country beyond just football.

Re: Confederation Cup--BRAVO!

By albeagle - 06-07-2017 17:04

We don't agree on anything I guess. In a few decades most of the German team will be made up of mostly Muslim names seeing all the refugees coming in. Ethnic Europeans will be minorities in their own countries.

darkline wrote:

They won their cup winning the matches on the field, it was a weak Champion but I still place them above Portugal.

We don't agree on anything I guess.

darkline wrote:

In any case, they do have a lot of players on the NT whose parents come from the Middle East, Shkodran Mustafi, Benjamin Henrichs (Ghana), Kerem Demirbay, Emre Can, Amin Younes, etc. etc.

So yes, you could say their gene pool was enriched by the immigration and that probably helped them as a Country beyond just football.

In a few decades most of the German team will be made up of mostly Muslim names seeing all the refugees coming in. Ethnic Europeans will be minorities in their own countries.

 

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