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3D gone forever ?

By kabini - 25-03-2017 23:19

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No chance anymore to see a game with the 3d engine? [i][color=blue]Many browsers, including Chrome, Firefox and Edge, have removed support for NPAPI plugins (such as Java) which means that they are no longer able to run our 3D and Analyzer clients.[/color][/i] Once the mz-responsible one´s have been so proud about this feature and now it´s almost impossible to watch a game? 2D is no substitute, more like going back to the 80ies playing packman.. I really don´t have to watch every game, but now I even cannot see 1 game a season [:O] [i] I would appreciate, to [b]see[/b] my team play - maybe that´s possible, before the 7th design/interface change appears ...[/i]No chance anymore to see a game with the 3d engine?

Many browsers, including Chrome, Firefox and Edge, have removed support for NPAPI plugins (such as Java) which means that they are no longer able to run our 3D and Analyzer clients.

Once the mz-responsible one´s have been so proud about this feature and now it´s almost impossible to watch a game?

2D is no substitute, more like going back to the 80ies playing packman..

I really don´t have to watch every game, but now I even cannot see 1 game a season

I would appreciate, to see my team play - maybe that´s possible, before the 7th design/interface change appears ...

 

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Re: 3D gone forever ?

By matttombstone - 25-03-2017 23:30

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You can still watch it on some browsers. I have Edge meaning I can't watch it, but I also have Internet Explorer and that allows me to watch 3D in both Football and Hockey. Just watched 2 hockey games this evening. They hopefully will replace it with a new version that can be watched on edge, chrome, etc. This is the perfect opportunity for them to do a complete overhaul of the games tactics, simulator and 3D engine. A huge project and undertaking but a spanking new simulator built from the ground up and a spanking new 3D engine built from the ground up complete with up to date graphics would be most welcome and could make the game marketable.You can still watch it on some browsers. I have Edge meaning I can't watch it, but I also have Internet Explorer and that allows me to watch 3D in both Football and Hockey. Just watched 2 hockey games this evening.

They hopefully will replace it with a new version that can be watched on edge, chrome, etc. This is the perfect opportunity for them to do a complete overhaul of the games tactics, simulator and 3D engine. A huge project and undertaking but a spanking new simulator built from the ground up and a spanking new 3D engine built from the ground up complete with up to date graphics would be most welcome and could make the game marketable.

Re: 3D gone forever ?

By aurelrabei - 25-03-2017 23:33

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Have you tried Internet Explorer ? I know it's slow, but at least you can see the game in 3D.Have you tried Internet Explorer ?
I know it's slow, but at least you can see the game in 3D.

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By kabini - 26-03-2017 00:12

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Thx for You responds, [b]@matttombstone[/b] and [b]@aurelrabei[/b] ! Oracle stopped the development of the java plugin/NPAPI, so no present bwoser (firefox, edge, opera or chrome) supports the java we need for the mz-3d here anymore; (it´s ofcourse possible, that you may run the 3d on an i386 architecture or commodore 64 [:D] but for sure on no system with latest software... (I´ve to use my PC/Laptop for ather things too ;-) That´s been known for years and it always has been difficult to see 3d (cause of the lack of security); - wanna know nowif the managerzone-makers will have some alternative stuff in mind? or just go on without any comment.Thx for You responds, @matttombstone and @aurelrabei !

Oracle stopped the development of the java plugin/NPAPI, so no present bwoser (firefox, edge, opera or chrome) supports the java we need for the mz-3d here anymore;
(it´s ofcourse possible, that you may run the 3d on an i386 architecture or commodore 64 but for sure on no system with latest software... (I´ve to use my PC/Laptop for ather things too ;-)

That´s been known for years and it always has been difficult to see 3d (cause of the lack of security);
- wanna know nowif the managerzone-makers will have some alternative stuff in mind? or just go on without any comment.

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By kabini - 26-03-2017 00:34

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PS I know there are ways to renable NPAPI Plugin Support in Firefox 52 (for instance: [u][color=blue]http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/force-enable-firefox-52-npapi-support[/color][/u] but [b]I think it´s time for an easy way to see 3d here in managerzone![/b] (without using outdated sw, reprogramming or other tricks ;-)PS
I know there are ways to renable NPAPI Plugin Support in Firefox 52 (for instance:
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/force-enable-firefox-52-npapi-support
but I think it´s time for an easy way to see 3d here in managerzone!
(without using outdated sw, reprogramming or other tricks ;-)

Re: 3D gone forever ?

By dowopado - 26-03-2017 06:09

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I use IE and it works fine...nobody seems to like IE but it is fast for me...plus I have lot less problems than when I use firefox or chrome...maybe it is because I am using Windows 7...but like my pappy always said "if it works don't fix it".

aurelrabei wrote:

Have you tried Internet Explorer ?
I know it's slow, but at least you can see the game in 3D.

I use IE and it works fine...nobody seems to like IE but it is fast for me...plus I have lot less problems than when I use firefox or chrome...maybe it is because I am using Windows 7...but like my pappy always said "if it works don't fix it".

Beantwortet: 3D gone forever ?

By kabini - 26-03-2017 21:43

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The IE developement has stopped, there´s now Edge on Windows 10.. IMO it shouldn´t be, that one hase to install outdated unsecure software to see a game 3d!The IE developement has stopped, there´s now Edge on Windows 10..
IMO it shouldn´t be, that one hase to install outdated unsecure software to see a game 3d!

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By kabini - 27-03-2017 23:11

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Why doesn.t managerzone come with a html 5 Version for 3d?Why doesn.t managerzone come with a html 5 Version for 3d?

Re: 3D gone forever ?

By michael9599 - 31-03-2017 10:13

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The 'big' unique selling point on this game was the 3D player. 3D player is SUPER outdated and gone. :)The 'big' unique selling point on this game was the 3D player.

3D player is SUPER outdated and gone. :)

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By kabini - 27-05-2017 11:35

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So we cant games in 3D mode anymore? it doesnt work By Senior Club Member kabini - Today 11:30 Badge image Badge image [MZ] . zorzyior09 wrote: I downloaded and installed mozilla v.51.0.1, stopped it from updating itself, and for the time being I'm back to 3D analyser. Have a great Sunday all! [b] .. the present Version of Firefox should be 53.0.3! older versions really have a security leak - better use the crappy old Internet Explorer just for mz beside Firefox and Edge for other browsing in the Internet, Banking a.s.o.[/b] panthe35r wrote: There was some changes with 3D mode regards browsers,i think a news was published about that before. [b] everybody recongnises that 3d doesn´t work anymore with present save Browsers - News should better say sth. about what they are working on - will managerzone come with a html 5 Version for 3d? / or will there be another solution? just telling it doesn´t work anymore isn´t really a solution nor a customer-friendly statement as the game is more and more not playable without paying for ...[/b] [color=blue][u]http://www.managerzone.com/?p=forum&sub=topic&topic_id=12112279&forum_id=387&sport=soccer#43894462[/u][/color]So we cant games in 3D mode anymore? it doesnt work

By Senior Club Member kabini - Today 11:30

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zorzyior09 wrote:
I downloaded and installed mozilla v.51.0.1, stopped it from updating itself, and for the time being I'm back to 3D analyser.
Have a great Sunday all!


.. the present Version of Firefox should be 53.0.3!
older versions really have a security leak - better use the crappy old Internet Explorer just for mz beside Firefox and Edge for other browsing in the Internet, Banking a.s.o.


panthe35r wrote:
There was some changes with 3D mode regards browsers,i think a news was published about that before.


everybody recongnises that 3d doesn´t work anymore with present save Browsers - News should better say sth. about what they are working on - will managerzone come with a html 5 Version for 3d? / or will there be another solution? just telling it doesn´t work anymore isn´t really a solution nor a customer-friendly statement as the game is more and more not playable without paying for ...

http://www.managerzone.com/?p=forum&sub=topic&topic_id=12112279&forum_id=387&sport=soccer#43894462

Re: 3D gone forever ?

By scruttino - 30-05-2017 13:15

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Look it's a blight on the game, plain and simple. There does need to be a solution other than to use Internet Explorer. The world is moving on from old technology and this is an area of the game that needs urgent attention. You can give old technology a fresh new interface, but you still have to deal with the archaic coding language it's written with. There are options for the future of a completely new 3D engine. But, I would build it in conjunction with sim 3, so the code on which both are based are compatible with each other and supported for at least 20-25 years into the future.Look it's a blight on the game, plain and simple.

There does need to be a solution other than to use Internet Explorer.

The world is moving on from old technology and this is an area of the game that needs urgent attention.

You can give old technology a fresh new interface, but you still have to deal with the archaic coding language it's written with.

There are options for the future of a completely new 3D engine. But, I would build it in conjunction with sim 3, so the code on which both are based are compatible with each other and supported for at least 20-25 years into the future.

Re: 3D gone forever ?

By jahwarrior - 09-10-2017 08:39

if there's no more 3D then managerzone should refund all the tokens that we used to buy player items, and how are we supposed to adjust and fine tune new tactics?if there's no more 3D then managerzone should refund all the tokens that we used to buy player items, and how are we supposed to adjust and fine tune new tactics?

Re: 3D gone forever ?

By aurelrabei - 09-10-2017 12:23

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We still have 3D, it is only hidden by default

jahwarrior wrote:

if there's no more 3D then ...

We still have 3D, it is only hidden by default

Re: 3D gone forever ?

By aurelrabei - 09-10-2017 12:26

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[color=red]Closed 2 more threads on same topic. Aurel [/color]Closed
2 more threads on same topic.

Aurel

 

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