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I wandered lonely as a cloud and gazed up to the moon and

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Hi ,
I looked up to the moon the other night, and thought to myself, there is just no way that man has ever walked onto that planet , it looks to be glowing hot, so, does anyone have a full dossier of how the moonwalks were planned, right from day one, from outer temperature and atmospheric analysis, to craft experiments, with regard to coping with inner and outer pressuring, and also the calculations to get how much weight an astronaut would need to avoid flailing into the stratospheres , I would also like to know if there were any rescue plans on stand by , also, how was it possible to plan and achieve a launch from an area never been visited before, what was the pre planning with regards to astronaut clothing , and how did they manage to get it right first time on all fronts, thanks for your help..
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I often wonder why did astronauts say they can't go to the sun until today. I mean just go at night and there you go. Didn't take a genius.

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Its like the Offside Rule!!!
You either Understand the Concept and Theory off How it All Works or you Don't??? as your Brain Burns out in Overdrive trying to Figure it out :O LOL

Good Luck with finding that out on here Mate I'm sure you have come too the Right Place for an in-depth Professional Analysis and Insight on this Matter as NASA don't have a Clue about the Universe :)

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maria171 wrote:
I often wonder why did astronauts say they can't go to the sun until today. I mean just go at night and there you go. Didn't take a genius.


Hahaha

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No one went to the moon, NASA is full of it, with their CGI.

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albeagle wrote:
No one went to the moon, NASA is full of it, with their CGI.


The Russians got to the moon first, in an unmanned mission.

Also, the flags planted by the Americans are still standing today on the moon, check out wiki for more details. Plus more countries got to the moon after, in more unmanned missions.

But don't let the facts get in your way.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing
http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/soviet-union-first-moon

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Hey listen, I won today so Ill take it easy on you. STOP watching TV is brainwashing for the masses. The moon landing was fake. Do you know that Nasa have lost all their original footage of the moon landing? How could they you tell me. Look at NASAs pics and vids closely all they are is CGI, wake up.

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maria171 wrote:
I often wonder why did astronauts say they can't go to the sun until today. I mean just go at night and there you go. Didn't take a genius.


0 points for originality.

albeagle wrote:
Hey listen, I won today so Ill take it easy on you. STOP watching TV is brainwashing for the masses. The moon landing was fake. Do you know that Nasa have lost all their original footage of the moon landing? How could they you tell me. Look at NASAs pics and vids closely all they are is CGI, wake up.


Can't tell if serious.

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bestplaymaker2134 wrote:
0 points for originality.


Well done. Pm me for prize.

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Im serious alright keep watching tv keep sleeping my dear friends.

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albeagle wrote:
Im serious alright keep watching tv keep sleeping my dear friends.


Oh boy, I love this. Finally I can make use of my media and culture degree. (<-- a joke)

So albeagle, please enlighten me on how and on what part of life has the average consumer been brainwashed in?

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keep to the subject BPM, or I will launch you. seriously, I do not think that by the late sixties, we had developed all of that technology in such a short space of time, from the first surface to air missiles, atomic tests , etc , I now find it hard to believe that it just all seemed to come off like clockwork..

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heddo wrote:
keep to the subject BPM, or I will launch you. seriously, I do not think that by the late sixties, we had developed all of that technology in such a short space of time, from the first surface to air missiles, atomic tests , etc , I now find it hard to believe that it just all seemed to come off like clockwork..


Yet, you believe NASA with its limited technology was able to milk the government out of billions of dollars in funding, and fool 500+ million people world wide with live broadcasting of the trip to the moon.hahahaha

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bestplaymaker2134, do a search on youtube subliminal messages on tv. I know youre brainwashed like most people and its hard to comprehend but just keep an opened mind. Tv tells you whats cool and whats not. All you see is sex everywhere< kids watch that stuff too. Don't you think it affects them? Its a psychological war for your mind.

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I still remember where I was the day I watched Homer watch the moon landing. And if it was on The Simpsons, then it's the Gospel Truth!

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bestplaymaker2134, do a search on youtube subliminal messages on tv. I know youre brainwashed like most people and its hard to comprehend but just keep an opened mind. Tv tells you whats cool and whats not. All you see is sex everywhere< kids watch that stuff too. Don't you think it affects them? Its a psychological war for your mind.

"TV tells me whats cool and whats not"...My mates tell me who's who hot and who's not. My local fruit seller tells me whats going to rot and what's not. My high school PE teacher tells me what's a cock and what's not.

We are born with an empty brain, everything we know has been fed to us whether its from the TV, your parents, books or your bloody tribe leader in 2000 BC Central Africa. Childbirth is an amazing process but I'm sure we don't slip out of our mother's womb with a clear mind of what we want, like/dislike and set of moral standards.

You claim the TV is brainwashing us based on a video from another media platform. You're delusional and you're using the term "brainwashed" very loosely. My mind is more opened than aemi's legs, you on the other hand need to take off you tin foil hat.

heddo wrote:
how was it possible to plan and achieve a launch from an area never been visited before, what was the pre planning with regards to astronaut clothing , and how did they manage to get it right first time on all fronts, thanks for your help..

heddo wrote:
seriously, I do not think that by the late sixties, we had developed all of that technology in such a short space of time, from the first surface to air missiles, atomic tests , etc , I now find it hard to believe that it just all seemed to come off like clockwork..

Back to the topic...there were around 60 missions to the moon before Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon. 30 odd years before the moon landing we had big rockets and jet powered planes. A quick scan through history will tell you the moon landing was possible and plausible.

I originally thought this was a joke...

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smiller29 wrote:
I still remember where I was the day I watched Homer watch the moon landing. And if it was on The Simpsons, then it's the Gospel Truth!


this right here proves that Canadians are funny! :)

bestplaymaker2134 wrote:
My mind is more opened than aemi's legs.


Well, as a straight guy, I don't really spread my legs, which kinda limits your argument. But I can't believe a Canadian is on the same page with an Aussie, that can't be right... time to insert a kangaroo joke here...

albeagle wrote:
Hey listen, I won today so Ill take it easy on you. STOP watching TV is brainwashing for the masses. The moon landing was fake. Do you know that Nasa have lost all their original footage of the moon landing? How could they you tell me. Look at NASAs pics and vids closely all they are is CGI, wake up.


Hey, thanks for taking it easy on me. You just saved yourself from my nothing but funny sarcasm.

Here is the thing, NASA lost like 700 tapes, including the original footage of the moon landings. But we have low quality copies of the entire landing. How does this prove that it didn't happen?

If there is no moon landing, how come they can still see the shadows of some of the flags there as of 2012? Silly argument indeed, but if there is no moon landing, then we have just discovered that aliens exist and they either stole our flags, or planted their own.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloFlags-Condition.html

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bestplaymaker2134 Im delusional because I can think for myself? How does nana know how our galaxy looks like, that you have all those CGI. All they see is lights in their telescopes how do they truly know what those lights exactly are. What is wrong with questioning that. If they can see light years away why dont they zoom in to the moon or mars. People forget to question just take everything nasa tells them. Thats how this brainwashing works they come up with something and before you start to figure it out they just give you the answer. There is nothing more powerful than the media. The Media can make the good guy bad and the bad guy good. Because people forget to research for themselves and let the media tell them whats up. Now you have the transgender agenda going on. A few years it wasn't such a big deal, but since the media have pushed it so hard with Catherine Gener, or all the movies and music videos it has become a big deal here in the US they are trying allow transgenders to go to women bathrooms and vice a versa. At least you have to admit that media is very powerful. Imagine if it is on the wrong hands that you have straight up propaganda and thats what it is.

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I truly believe that, one day, aliens will find a way to hack and corrupt our airwaves, and take control of our medial infrastructures , then they will be able to puppeteer us, and turn us into pavement walking, phone tapping zombies , stumbling, shuffling and bumping into each other, hey OMG , is it already happening. ok so answer me this , why were the challenger missions such a big deal, when all they were doing is orbiting, why was this such a big deal , if we had already achieved so much with the Apollo missions..

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Question everything but then who do you believe to have the right answer...
1. Media...certainly not...they are the ones that reported and broadcasted the mission to the moon...besides according to heddo they have been taken over by aliens.

2. Politicians...absolutely not...they are all liars.

3. Neighbor...noped...he is busy watching you.

4. Kin...they made you...are did they...you were brainwashed.

5. Social media...do I even need to come up with a reason for this one.

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albeagle wrote:
bestplaymaker2134 Im delusional because I can think for myself?......Because people forget to research for themselves and let the media tell them whats up.

The problem with conspiracy theorists like you is that you assume that everyone is a brain dead zombie and that your thoughts are somehow above everyone else. Your perspective is a product of the media whether you choose to accept it or not. Your perspective is just another perspective and nothing more.

It's very typical of many Americans to be self-centered. Nothing wrong with that, you guys have all the reason to be. But do you think NASA is the only organisation in the entire planet studying space? There are more space organisations in American than just NASA. Do you also think NASA is strictly American? NASA has a global network with other organisations around the world. NASA is not affiliated with the media nor do they really care about what the population thinks, they've had Nazi scientists working with them from the very beginning. The former head of NASA was a Nazi. This shows they've got their heads out of politics and have only one goal in mind which is to learn.

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How does nana know how our galaxy looks like, that you have all those CGI. All they see is lights in their telescopes how do they truly know what those lights exactly are.

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ok so answer me this , why were the challenger missions such a big deal, when all they were doing is orbiting, why was this such a big deal , if we had already achieved so much with the Apollo missions..

That's science. Science is one big hypothesis. Clearly none of you guys here are astronomers or even aspiring scientists, nor do you have any real interest in science. Don't know why you're questioning something you have no knowledge in. Ask any 15 year old kid with a passion in space and he'll give you an answer in 30 seconds.

The biggest issue with people trying to confront authority thinking that they've been oppressed/brainwashed etc, is that they assume the government and the media is one entity, controlled by some evil mastermind. You're forgetting that people that work for the government and media are average day to day people with friends and families just like you and me.

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At least you have to admit that media is very powerful. Imagine if it is on the wrong hands that you have straight up propaganda and thats what it is.

You're as much of a sheep as anyone else. "Wrong hands", who decides its morally wrong? I don't think you realise that EVERYTHING in the world is subjective and it is impossible to look at something in an objective manner. The human mind has no 'neutral' state. "Straight up propaganda"??? Everything you see or hear is propaganda one way or another doesn't matter if its for a good or bad cause. It has been like that since the civilisations, what's to say it's evil and it's affecting our "independent" minds?

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Question everything but then who do you believe to have the right answer...
1. Media...certainly not...they are the ones that reported and broadcasted the mission to the moon...besides according to heddo they have been taken over by aliens.

2. Politicians...absolutely not...they are all liars.

3. Neighbor...noped...he is busy watching you.

4. Kin...they made you...are did they...you were brainwashed.

5. Social media...do I even need to come up with a reason for this one.


Exactly right.

Most conspiracy theorists have empty claims that do nothing but stir up controversy and make themselves look stupid.

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the media and government are controlled by the same people at the very top. Yes you have normal people working, but they are told what stories to follow and what not too. It may be hard to understand because we are conditioned at a very young age as soon as we start school. Most of us learned about the moon landing in schools, the Evolution theory and history which is written by the victors. Its a whole system at work. The books don't tell you that you about the carpet bombing of Dresden and other German cities. They will not tell you that they will never find a cure for cancer because it is a big business for big Pharma. It wont tell you that 98 percent of opium comes from Afghanistan which is controlled by western countries.

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perhaps you're reading the wrong books and watching the wrong TV channels

anyway, it's up to you (generally speaking) to educate yourself, have an open mind and find what is real or not by using science and your own judgement (based on logic alone)

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yah aldebaran , that is why I am currently divulging in wiki / Apollo missions , they are going to give me all of the stats and facts that I was hoping to get from you guys, at least we now know how to wind up BPM , you can go and find a field to fight in now , cheers . my work is done ..

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...does anyone have a full dossier of how the moonwalks were planned, right from day one, from outer temperature and atmospheric analysis, to craft experiments, with regard to coping with inner and outer pressuring, and also the calculations to get how much weight an astronaut would need to avoid flailing into the stratospheres , I would also like to know if there were any rescue plans on stand by , also, how was it possible to plan and achieve a launch from an area never been visited before, what was the pre planning with regards to astronaut clothing , and how did they manage to get it right first time on all fronts, thanks for your help..


heddo wrote:
I now find it hard to believe that it just all seemed to come off like clockwork..


You are aware that it was APOLLO 11 that landed on the moon and not Apollo 1 right? and that the first unmanned moon landing happened a decade earlier? of course they planned this mission out. of course they ran simulations and tests on their equipment in fabricated environments. they didn't just launch people into outer space and "hope" they'd come back.

"one small step for man. one giant leap for mankind". it's not the first time that man has made a quantum leap over the past century or two; electricity, telephone, automobile, flight, indoor plumbing, nuclear energy / a-bomb, computers/internet. and what about older phenomena like the pyramids - giant leaps in technology are in our nature.

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So here’s my problem with the moon landing being fake. Basically, there are 2 scenarios I can think of.

1) A very small group of people fabricated the moon landing footage and then had to simulate a space flight (including a live launch) to a room full of top notch scientists and other professionals (aka “Houston”) trained to look for the slightest errors in the real time data being fed back from a spaceship that was going absolutely nowhere.

or

2) That entire room of people controlling the space launch was involved in the charade and knew exactly what was going on. At which point you have roughly 100-200 people who are fully aware that one of the greatest moments in human history is a farce and NOT ONE of those people has come forward over the past 50 years to say something about it.

Now honestly, the web of lies has to be HUGE at this point in time. Although I’m sure that NASA workers were subject to a written contract swearing secrecy, I’m pretty sure that any decent lawyer can find a loophole when the divulged secret is a GIGANTIC GLOBAL BOLD FACED LIE. Conversely, they must have used the “we’ll kill your family” technique, which becomes pretty complicated when you’re dealing with hundreds of people. Because it’s been nearly 50 years, some of those original people have surely passed on and I bet at least one of them would have written a confession about the massive weight that has been on their shoulders since they were forced to lie to a nation. Now you have to worry about containing the mouths of all their loved ones and that takes hiring a lot of people who will also be at least somewhat aware of what it is they are trying to prevent. And the tree keeps on growing bigger and bigger…..

The 15 minutes of fame craze is a solid 2 decades old now. Now I’m meant to believe that during that time, and the 25 years prior, no credible source has come forth to say that it was a sham. Not even an anonymous letter or blog about exactly which holes to look for in the story, or which files to check or which people to talk to? Come on! One of those branches has to have fallen by now. We’re not talking about a JFK situation (just an example – not saying it happened) where a small branch of government and military personnel (possibly less than 5 people) decided he needed to be assassinated, took action and then removed the smoking gun immediately. We are not talking about a situation where you come forward and you’re sentenced to the death penalty. Somebody has to have cracked over the past 50 years. Somebody has to have wanted to have their name on television as the one who officially debunked the moon landing.

Quite frankly, if Neil Armstrong was able to sit there and accept credit for something he didn’t even do for 43 years, and not once break under the enormous weight on his shoulder from the guilt & disgust of his own fraudulence, then he must be the most self-righteous prick of all time.

On an unrelated note, Paul McCartney really is dead you know…..

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there should be an episode of X-files around somewhere, where Mulder denies the moon landing and Sculley assures him that the science and facts are there right in front of him

:P

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smiller29 wrote:
On an unrelated note, Paul McCartney really is dead you know…..


Are you saying Tupac is alive, then?

@alde, haha good one

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aemi wrote:
Are you saying Tupac is alive, then?

@alde, haha good one


Tupac's is alive. His spirit is inside me and it feels damn good.

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Tupac is doing great, Elvis is on a beach in Hawaii and Hitler passed away in the late 80's in Argentina

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bestplaymaker2134 wrote:
His spirit is inside me and it feels damn good.

smiller29 wrote:
Tupac is doing great

Didn't my name was great.

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bestplaymaker2134 wrote:
Didn't know my name was great.


We need an edit button.

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thats it heddo, I mean youre questions are pretty legit,, so you got these brainwashed guys ganging up on you and you give up. You know wiki is not even a reliable source for information because anyone can go in there even you and me and put whatever they want. Whatever.

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albeagle wrote:
thats it heddo, I mean youre questions are pretty legit,, so you got these brainwashed guys ganging up on you and you give up. You know wiki is not even a reliable source for information because anyone can go in there even you and me and put whatever they want. Whatever.


so wiki has absolutely nothing to do with my question of how they managed to keep it from leaking for nearly 50 years. if landing on the moon wasn't man's greatest achievement, then clearly keeping a secret of this magnitude in this day and age for a half of a century is.

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Impossible for it to be a fabricated hoax...too many people involved in the whole thing...President making speeches before, during and after the mission...wives and kids of astronauts being interviewed by the media (not just one source of media but TV, radio and newspapers from around the world...plus I was part of the millions of people that watched the whole thing...then the movie industry some years later make a movie about it claiming it is a true story. Really, in my mind, the historians and Smithsonian's minds it is a fact it happen.

I have no doubt there are many covert operations/missions by many countries that are happening around the world but it involves only a very few people knowing it...like, maybe only 10. Yet, over time some of those will leak out to the media.

What we have here is a case of one individual (heddo) who stumbled out of the pub after a few too many pints then passed out on the sidewalk, and when he woke, he was staring at a globe street light which started his thoughts about the mission to the moon. That's all folks!!!

We sure had fun with this...thanks heddo.

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ok albeagle , I am prepared to go back onto the podium , I am going to say that the way that the USA and Russia are still banging on at each other ridiculously, over anything that they can grasp , I am going to say that the moon landings were fake , that it was propaganda , that it was part of the arms race, and that all of those involved swore an oath of allegiance, and that if Donald Trump can survive for so long on any kind of a platform , then anything is believable or unbelievable , I am quite happy to say, and believe, that man walking on the moon was an affront ,from the USA to its opponents , it was just to say , look what we can do , now be afraid of us , but it was also an act of paranoia , a paranoia that the USA has had since it wiped out the native tribes of America , and a paranoia it continued to have when it abolished slavery , and a paranoia it continues to have over gun control , ghettoism , poverty , terrorism , if the USA could pull off another stage show to fend off its rivals and onlookers , then believe me it would..
 
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