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48÷2(9+3) = ???

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This one's got the internet stumped. The main problem here is: when do you stick the value in the brackets into the equation: Before, or after the division is made?

The answers either 2 or 288. Both sides have merit. Enjoy your flame wa- i mean debate :P.
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[Celts]
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BODMAS

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The correct answer, is that the equation is written with ambiguous notation and that in the form it is currently written as is not valid.

It should either be written with the 48 above a line, with 2(9+3) below the line, or written as 48 above the line, 2 below the line, then the (9+3) in a bracket next to it.

There is no answer because there is no valid question.

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This thing has been going on for ages lol

It's written just fine, no problem there.

First do everything in brackets, then do ":" & "x", then the rest, from left to right.

So, the answer is ... :-)

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kevinskyy wrote:
This thing has been going on for ages lol

It's written just fine, no problem there.


There is a problem there, I suggest you re-read my post :-p

It is written as a pre-schooler would write it, the reason that the divisor sign is not used in algebra is because it allows for ambiguity. It is not possible to write the same equation using the divisor line, which shows you it is not valid.

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[MZUSA]
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Per excel spreadsheet answer was 288.

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I reread it, still see no problem :-)

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kevinskyy wrote:
I reread it, still see no problem :-)


Maybe you never advanced past pre-school maths then?

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288 of course.

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288. brackets first, then 24*12

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ivorylegend wrote:
There is a problem there, I suggest you re-read my post :-p

It is written as a pre-schooler would write it, the reason that the divisor sign is not used in algebra is because it allows for ambiguity. It is not possible to write the same equation using the divisor line, which shows you it is not valid.


Well I think it is:

48/2 x (9+3)

;)

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To avoid any confussion:

(48/2) x (9+3)

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BODMAS is misleading - D and M are equal (as are A and S), they are done as they appear left to right.

48÷2(9+3)
Brackets -> 48÷2x12
Orders -> 48÷2x12
Division or Multiplication (in left to right order) -> 288
Addition or Subtraction (in left to right order) -> 288

288

And ivory, there is no problem with how it's written.

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Tuesday, but i think i forgot to carry the pickles.

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Ivory, if I say I have a master in bio-ingenetics, does that answer your question?

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kevinskyy wrote:
Ivory, if I say I have a master in bio-ingenetics, does that answer your question?


If you are resorting to a who has the biggest balls already it means you have very little evidence to support your position.

The bottom line, is that you could never reverse engineer an equation into this format because you would never be left with the obelus nor an equation without full parenthesis.

The equation written in this form is sloppy, the onus is on the writer of the equation to provide clarity that devoids the equation of ambiguity.

You don't use the obelus in Algebra because it encourages ambiguity, its as simple as that.

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48÷2(9+3) = 48÷2x(9+3) = 24x12 = 288 - the correct answer.

48÷[2(9+3)] = 48÷(2x12) = 48÷24 = 2

@fernandes_ - good job! :D

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2 or 288 ? :)

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I dont know!

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48÷2(9+3)
48÷2x12
48÷24
=2

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[Sugar]
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just google for 48÷2(9+3) and you'll have a surprise!

Απ: 48÷2(9+3) = ???

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This is cool!

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I like this :-)

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48÷2(9+3) = 288

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Of course 2

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I think some people need to learn PMDAS (or whatever variation you were taught) all over again. I'll not wear pants until we consistently choose the correct answer.

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Its 288

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what does calculator say?
288.
I'll get stick to that.

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288, but don't quote me on this.

Did anybody ask Trump?

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BODMAS Rule
48÷2(9+3)
= 24 x (9+3)
= 24 x 12
= 288

Solved_

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luapardo wrote:
BODMAS Rule
48÷2(9+3)
= 24 x (9+3)
= 24 x 12
= 288

Solved_


Omg. Drives me nuts.

Brackets (Parentheses) Over Division, Multiplication, Addition & Subtraction. *

This means that the normal order of operations (division and multiplication occur before addition and subtraction) remains the same in all equations UNLESS brackets are present, in which case the equation within the brackets (or multiple brackets) needs to occur/be solved first.

In this instance (where / = divison)

48 / 2 (9+3)
= 48 / 2 (12)
= 48 / 2 x 12
= 48 / 24
= 2

288 is the answer if extra brackets are added:
(48 / 2)(9+3)
= (24)(12)
= 288

I'm sorry but anyone who says that the initial equation equals 288 is an idiot.

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webunited wrote:
just google for 48÷2(9+3) and you'll have a surprise!


Google's answer, if you actually look at the equation they put into the calculator (above the answer) shows you they they put brackets (parentheses) around "48 / 2" which completely changes the equation.

If you put "48÷(2(9+3))" into google then you get 2. And that is the correct answer (and also the correct equation).

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coconut_wolf_bandit wrote:
Google's answer, if you actually look at the equation they put into the calculator (above the answer) shows you they they put brackets (parentheses) around "48 / 2" which completely changes the equation.

If you put "48÷(2(9+3))" into google then you get 2. And that is the correct answer (and also the correct equation).


I didn't say Google was right!
I said that you would have a surprise!

my opinion is that the correct answer is 2
google changes it by adding a bracket that wasn't there

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coconut_wolf_bandit wrote:
Omg. Drives me nuts.
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I'm sorry but anyone who says that the initial equation equals 288 is an idiot.

That's not nice. It's 288.
48÷2(9+3)= 24 x 12 = 288.

I'm not saying go and learn some Math, but some manners.
Good luck and enjoy!

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mihairo wrote:
That's not nice. It's 288.
48÷2(9+3)= 24 x 12 = 288.

I'm not saying go and learn some Math, but some manners.
Good luck and enjoy!

Ofcourse

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mihairo wrote:
That's not nice. It's 288.
48÷2(9+3)= 24 x 12 = 288.

I'm not saying go and learn some Math, but some manners.
Good luck and enjoy!


Haha good because your maths is wrong!

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We have two possible answers: 288 or 2.

If 2 is the correct answer it will be this:
48/2*(9+3) = 2
If we divide both sides for (9+3) we should get the same numbers on both sides, right?
So, we get this:
(48/2*(9+3))/(9+3) = 2/(9+3)
After that, we get:
48/2 = 2/12
24 = 1/6
So, thats wrong.

Same stuff for 288:
(48/2*(9+3))/(9+3) = 288/(9+3)
Getting:
48/2 = 288/12
Then:
So, 48/2 = (288/6)/(12/6)
And VOILA!
48/2 = 48/2

So, 288 is the right answer.

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[H2H]
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For the result to be 2, the expression should be:

48÷[2(9+3)]

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I spoke to a patient of mine at work today who stated what I believe to be true:

- both answers are correct
a) the answer is 2 is correct because the lack of a multiplication sign is said to imply that the "2(9+3)" should be treated as one unit (instead of the equation saying
"2*(9+3)"
b) the answer 288 is correct as the lack of additional brackets complicates the issue.

I won't comment again, I believe that there is room for both answers to be correct and that the question has been designed specifically to cause arguments. The way maths is taught in Australia, anything added onto brackets, with no sign present in between, should be treated as a whole, aka:

~ Re-draw the equation 48/2(9+3) into algebra:

A/B(C+D)
= A/(BC+BD) (expanding brackets)

Let A = 48, B = 2, C = 9, D = 3 (the equation)

= 48/[(2*9)+(2*3)]
= 48/[18+6]
= 48/24
= 2

As you can see there, if you were to solve this equation algebraically, you cannot get 288.

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48÷2(9+3) = 1

It's gotta be 1.

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How much it's 2+2:2 ?

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piti_chivu wrote:
How much it's 2+2:2 ?


9. Is that all you got?

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[MAS]
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oh my god, it's almost the end of 2016 and this debate still going on?
 
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