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No joke!
Send me in my GB the images of your best players and show me the maxings. I offer about 75'000'000 Mio. USD or about 50'000'000 EURO or exactly 66'666'666 CHF for the best player I get. Put this player on the transfermarket if I choose you and show the maxings... The offer will come for sure from my side...
That's the last action of Brilliant Wildlife XI if the GA's won't stop it. I hope not, because it is like in real life: Think of Gareth Bale, James Rodriguez, ... the best have high prizes. That's all nonsense in my opinion, but in my opinion this game became nonsense as well.
My team was sleeping for several years now and was once the no.1. But now I see all the abuses in this game: Every action has to be paid with money. If you don't spend money you're disadvantaged enourmously (you can't play it anymore) - that's the result of the developement. Wow! Reason enough to say goodbye.
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manolo_jimenez - 27-07-2014 00:16You could just log out, close the door behind you and leave us be.
Making a 50 million euros fuss about it is just inappropriate.
I respect your opinion (and the time you have spent in the game, along with your huge amount of trophies) but you don't get to complain about the EUR 2,21 monthly cost of Club Membership after (you yourself) having spent hundreds of CHF in the past.
bayernallstars wrote:My team was sleeping for several years now
If it is hard for you to adjust, go back to sleep.
(repeating) You can't lecture people about a monthly cost of 2 euros when you have spent hundreds the last 11 years. It seems a bit hypocritical.
(sorry for my tone)
Now bring me the 50 million euros for the best GK in the game :D
MZ;)
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mosmosmos - 27-07-2014 00:29Any transfer attempt you make for such money will be cancelled.
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tosspot - 27-07-2014 01:27I don't think he's talking about just the club member fee. Its all the other crap that's been introduced.
This is probably the best manager in the game. His team at its peak was miles above anyone and from a country as small as Switzerland.
It's disappointing when the game forces real managers to quit so 10yos with mummy's credit card can enjoy it.
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rockstarroberts - 27-07-2014 01:35
tosspot wrote:I don't think he's talking about just the club member fee. Its all the other crap that's been introduced.
This is probably the best manager in the game. His team at its peak was miles above anyone and from a country as small as Switzerland.
It's disappointing when the game forces real managers to quit so 10yos with mummy's credit card can enjoy it.
was the best, not anymore
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adv41449 - 27-07-2014 02:19rockstarroberts wrote:was the best, not anymore
Your point? This is sad day. When one of the best to play the game leaves, innane comments should subside.
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rockstarroberts - 27-07-2014 03:16
adv41449 wrote:Your point? This is sad day. When one of the best to play the game leaves, innane comments should subside.
lol, sad day for you, not us normal folk.
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mansoor-aamir - 27-07-2014 04:23bayernallstars wrote:
and was once the no.1.
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You are truly a Legend, having been won the Top Teams Cup, and finishing 2nd & 3rd in Champions Cup!!
In real life, I believe you would be a very dedicated & prosperous person.
May you have a prosperous life ahead!!!
WAIT!!! Later, I would change my team name to "Brilliant Wildlife XI" just as a token of appreciation!!
“It always is harder to be left behind than to be the one to go...”
“Surely! Heroes are missed after their departure.”
Goodbye!!
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geoclphredux - 27-07-2014 04:48mansoor-aamir wrote:Later, I would change my team name to "Brilliant Wildlife XI" just as a token of appreciation!!
Or you could go with something original, I don't know how long bayernallstars will be here for after a message like this; they may not notice the gesture.
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mansoor-aamir - 27-07-2014 05:06geoclphredux wrote:Or you could go with something original,...
like what?? :)
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adv41449 - 27-07-2014 05:30rockstarroberts wrote:lol, sad day for you, not us normal folk.
Again, brilliant!
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rockstarroberts - 27-07-2014 07:12
adv41449 wrote:Again, brilliant!
The best part is knowing you can't comeback from my witty responses.
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chv1 - 27-07-2014 10:07bayernallstars wrote:But now I see all the abuses in this game: Every action has to be paid with money. If you don't spend money you're disadvantaged enourmously (you can't play it anymore) - that's the result of the developement. Wow! Brilliant Wildlife XI end
Agree with you on that one, its such a shame. Someone got greedy.
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julenfer - 27-07-2014 10:50I disagree. You can perfectly play without money and your game experience is mostly equal. You can't compete properly...live or leave decision.
And well greedy or not, we can't really judge, but the guys running this game need to eat, that we know.
Now with all respect, a swiss complaining bout a few bucks must probably be thinking of all those africans who really cant afford it. Thus wanting to blow the Mz financial order with bank money is logical... (sight)
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tosspot - 27-07-2014 11:02rockstarroberts wrote:was the best, not anymore
Better than you are now, have been and ever will be.
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henningo - 27-07-2014 13:01
I'm not sure I understand this "pay to win" theory. Are we talking about the cost of club membership, or what advantages can you get from paying extra that are so crucial?
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manolo_jimenez - 27-07-2014 14:45tosspot wrote:I don't think he's talking about just the club member fee
henningo wrote:Are we talking about the cost of club membership
No, he is talking about the whole cost, Club Membership plus all the rest (friendly leagues, friendly cups, etc.).
The point is that you can either choose not to pay at all and try to be as competitive as possible or just pay for the (truly) cheap membership of 2.21 euros per month.
The advantages of just being a club member are inversely proportionate to the cost.
Free entrance to all Official Cups, discounts, Training Graphs, player notes, 10 tactic slots, no ads, free scout matches, auto renew for coaches, player availability, etc.
Have you seen other online football manager games? Do you know that in other (famous) games you have to pay real money in order to bid (and re-bid) for a player in the transfer market?
MZ;)
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hanzinho - 27-07-2014 14:51tosspot wrote:
This is probably the best manager in the game. His team at its peak was miles above anyone and from a country as small as Switzerland.
I have never understood the hype. He did win a lot, one year. Thats it. Is Joachim Löw the best manager in the world, ever?
I have seen a skiller of his team at its peak when I was creating the international TZ edition. He had 3, maybe 4 players that was good enough for my team, when my team was at its peak. I suspect that the quality of his rivals was not very high back in 2010.
Now, if he made a comeback, and won even half of the trophies he won in 2010, then I would be a believer. Until then, he was just someone who had a good generation of players. His best player came from his own academy, which is just absurd. You can play MZ for 500 years without being so lucky.
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darkline - 27-07-2014 15:31There are many managers that could be considered "great", there was Valle Vista for example, the guy won 3 major cups back in just a week, back in I think 2004 when cups where dominated by Swedes only....
Now Hanz, back in 2010 players where a lot different, most of the players I had back them would probably be barely decent players by today's standards, accelerated training camps, ITCs, more training spaces, more foreign players on the teams, etc. etc. made a huge difference between the players standards in 2010 and now....
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darkline - 27-07-2014 15:49As a comparison of 2010 and early 2011 standards, this was one of the main strikers for the USA NT back in 2010
Back them he was awesome and ended up top scorer of the MLS for me, but by current standards, he's nowhere near a top player and he wouldn't make my team....Edited: 27-07-2014 15:49
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rockstarroberts - 27-07-2014 16:06
tosspot wrote:Better than you are now, have been and ever will be.
That's nonsense, but continue sucking up to him.
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hanzinho - 27-07-2014 16:31darkline wrote:There are many managers that could be considered "great", there was Valle Vista for example, the guy won 3 major cups back in just a week, back in I think 2004 when cups where dominated by Swedes only....
Now Hanz, back in 2010 players where a lot different, most of the players I had back them would probably be barely decent players by today's standards, accelerated training camps, ITCs, more training spaces, more foreign players on the teams, etc. etc. made a huge difference between the players standards in 2010 and now....
ITC came around after I sold out my golden generation. Work permits was not in place either. Training camps was introduced, what, 2006? Funny thing is, the player you showed, would probably be good enough for the current Norwegian national team. Perhaps only just shy of a spot in the starting eleven. Allthough, if I was NC, I would certainly test him. Some strikers score alot. Others don't. Looking at his skills, I have a feeling he was more of a natural goalscorer than most. I have had similar strikers (8-8-10-8/9), and they always seemed to do well one on one. Perhaps the "lack" of speed gave them more time to finish before the keeper came out..
Alot of things has happened the last year, due to ITC. But from 2010 until 2013, the best players looked pretty much the same. The best player the game has ever seen, retired in 2011(?). Godfried May. No training 2.0. No ITC. And he only had 16-17 seasons of training, as he retired at the age of 32.
The competition at the top level is much more fierce now then it has ever been, and certainly if you compare it with 2010.
Valle Vista had a good week once. Yet, he is mentioned again and again. With very few exceptions, teams of the past are not worthy of mentioning. Exceptions would be Isidor and White Starz. My very subjective opinion ;)
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rivercampion - 27-07-2014 19:09@hanzinho.
Yeah...BUT ..there was a lot of cheating too in the 'good old days'... many Swedish users were virtually untouchable...
The support system of eliminating cheating all over the world was not nearly as efficient as is today. It is sad to say but paradoxically that may have been a problem for the growth of the game, since lots of folks want 'instantaneous success'...and cheating have been a traditional way to get faster to get to that.
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rivercampion - 27-07-2014 20:59And..the complain of the 'two classes of citizens' is older than the beginning of the game. In fact in the time of Isidor that hanzinho referred to there was clearly more than two clases of citizens... 1. The untouchable good ol' boys, 2 the paying, 3 the non-paying peasants. The issue was that for the non-cheating peasants it was simply impossible to make it to the elite in a lifetime.
Now in my view the latest versions of the game the various levels, U18-21-23 leagues etc at the very least the common peasants (paying and not paying) can get the thrill of at least 'winning' something once or twice in their lifetime.
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mosmosmos - 27-07-2014 21:16rivercampion wrote:And..the complain of the 'two classes of citizens' is older than the beginning of the game. In fact in the time of Isidor that hanzinho referred to there was clearly more than two clases of citizens... 1. The untouchable good ol' boys, 2 the paying, 3 the non-paying peasants. The issue was that for the non-cheating peasants it was simply impossible to make it to the elite in a lifetime.
Now in my view the latest versions of the game the various levels, U18-21-23 leagues etc at the very least the common peasants (paying and not paying) can get the thrill of at least 'winning' something once or twice in their lifetime.
Apart from the fact the non payers can't player in the Uxx
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rivercampion - 27-07-2014 22:31mosmosmos wrote:Apart from the fact the non payers can't player in the Uxx
Yes I know that to play Uxx you have to pay, I meant that the common manager can at least win at something. For the non-paying members in particular from small countries with the current game, transfer system etc., foreign transfer quotas is still much more 'possible' to compete and have a realistic chance of winning a local or national cup or in the Seasons cup etc.
Always the paying members had advantages since the beginning of the game I don't argue about that. But the argument, the topic has not change throughout time is always the same deja vu all over again, and always the question has been and is how do the complainers expect that MZ would exist if doesn't make a profit. I never heard a good answer to that one.
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scruttino - 27-07-2014 23:06mosmosmos wrote:Apart from the fact the non payers can't play in the Uxx
Which leads back to a point I made in the retirements thread in which the future of this game requires that the time it takes to go from a nothing club just starting out, to challenging the top teams needing to be rightfully reduced from the 3-4 years bracket down to 1-2 years. As if someone doesn't want to pay to play this game, and one of its main selling points is still that you can actually play it for free with the chance of reasonable success. Which it a rarity among gaming nowadays, but even still at 1-2 years to build a squad is an eternity to most non paying new users (as well as paying users) as they make there way up the lower leagues of non-existent inactive opposition. So most get distracted by life as it takes them on it's many journeys.
Perhaps crew could cap the amount off money inactive teams can acquire, as if someone logged on once every 3 months to sell or discard graduating youth and constantly field a youth team. Over a few years they can accrue a ridiculous bank balance and to be the best you need the finances to bankroll a core group of 20 players to filter down a starting XI from.
But there is no way to stop people paying for success (in game or out of game), as it's built into the social framework of life. This game in many ways flies against the trend, it's struggles it acquire a new user base are to me directly linked to normalisation of social attitudes towards living as life as a series of short term memories that increasingly get replaced. Preventing people from seeing the long term consequences of their actions and how people are increasingly linked through invisible networks that they are unaware of. (Sorry my anthropology degree is kicking in and I might have taken things a bit off track, if so disregard this last bit)
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scruttino - 27-07-2014 23:34I liken this game to a community radio station, it has a core group of followers who cover the cost of its operation. Yet it has no attachment to people's social lives through the sponsorship of local music events, so no new fans learn about it except through people who already play it and word of mouth can only take you so far.
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rivercampion - 27-07-2014 23:44scruttino wrote:I liken this game to a community radio station, it has a core group of followers who cover the cost of its operation. Yet it has no attachment to people's social lives through the sponsorship of local music events, so no new fans learn about it except through people who already play it and word of mouth can only take you so far.
It is a pretty good analogy and at least in the case of my local community radio station in Austin, Texas, KUT one if not the best in the country. The advantage obviously is no commercials and best station for news and music. The paying members which is estimated at <10% of the total audience (unfortunately), received some perks. For instance, there is an 'elite circle' for the highest donors, those guys have the privilege of participating live in studio to some concerts as well as dinners with the radio personalities etc. For those lower in the scale there are some minor perks and gifts. But the bottom line is that without that 10% of donors the radio station 'wouldn't exist for anyone'
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darkline - 28-07-2014 01:34I said it many times, right now the game is mostly dependent on word of mouth and that's not enough to bring new users on the numbers needed, people use google to find what they want and I think one of the reasons we don't get as many new users we should, is because managerzone is badly positioned in google when searching for relevant terms.
Examples of search terms and google positioning:
online football manager game: #26 (3rd page of results)
online soccer manager game: #22 (3rd page)
Soccer manager game: #25 (3rd page)
Football Manager game: #54 (5th page!)
If you want to get new users, you need to be on the first page of google....
I went even further and google for the terms best online football manager games, just to see what are considered the best games by review sites or users.
Worth mentioning that the first two results are paid advertising from two online football games, now for the real results:
1st result is "Top 10 Best Online Football Management Games" and a list of supposedly the top football manager games with a small review, managerzone is not on that list....
2nd result is "List of Online Football manager games - FM Scout" which is a forum in which someone asked for a football manager game and got a lot of replies, different people mentioned games but not a single user mentioned managerzone
3rd result - "5 Best Online Football Games" - No mention of managerzone
I think the problem with the game is that people don't know it exists, I got into the game due to ads in a newspaper way back in 2007, but if I where looking for a football manager game today, I don't really think I'd find my way into managerzone unless maybe a friend told me about it....
Theoretically, a good SEO person can improve your google search standing... no idea if that approach has been tried or not, maybe paid google ads might help?
When it comes to football manager games, I think managerzone is probably one of the most addicting and deserves to be at the top of any list, but unfortunately that doesn't account for much if you can't get the people through the door first.
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mosmosmos - 28-07-2014 02:02darkline wrote:
I think the problem with the game is that people don't know it exists, I got into the game due to ads in a newspaper way back in 2007, but if I where looking for a football manager game today, I don't really think I'd find my way into managerzone unless maybe a friend told me about it....
This...just this. And it is something I was raising as far back as 2009, incidentally when we were still complaining that we needed more users
When I first found MZ in 2003 it was on the very first page with searches of the kind.
I rejoined in 2007 because I was tidying my drawers out and found a print-off of my 2003 team, had nothing better to do, and decided to give it another go.
I know there is a want for short-termism, especially with a new generation of game players, but that isn't entirely representative, and there are still a lot of people who want a long term game.
The fact that MZ is still going now is down to the fact that the long term members are still the ones putting the bulk of the money in, those who have been here over a half a decade. If MZ was a short termist game, with the current level of exposure, it would be gone by now.
How do you find MZ? I'd guess by playing and not liking all of the others out there and getting to page 3 on Google search. I reckon about half the users who have joined recently a stuck around in England are returning users from a by-gone age.
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scruttino - 28-07-2014 02:18darkline wrote:people use google to find what they want and I think one of the reasons we don't get as many new users we should, is because managerzone is badly positioned in google when searching for relevant terms.
Examples of search terms and google positioning:
online football manager game: #26 (3rd page of results)
online soccer manager game: #22 (3rd page)
Soccer manager game: #25 (3rd page)
Football Manager game: #54 (5th page!)
If you want to get new users, you need to be on the first page of google....
When i first started up a team I did just this, admittedly I did look beyond the first few pages of google. But I searched for 'free online football management games'. No one told me about managerzone. I had an old version of football manager that I had played to death and was looking for something different where I could play against real people.
I didn't go on the forums for a year or so, and likewise my team was terrible for a long time (they are still not that great). But I'm stubborn and keep at it, using the slow build long term approach (one day I'll have a great team).
I got a freind to start a team once, but although he loves football and is a playstation FIFA nut, the game didn't capture his attention like it did mine it just took to long to acheive success to sustain his interest.
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zefrenchy - 28-07-2014 02:48
I joined MZ in December 2002 off the back of a post in a Championship Manager forum when Scotland wasn't even in the game. I mentioned this to Johan in 2004 and they were trying to break into Brazil and Italy at the time, then China came along and the smaller nations seemed to have been forgotten about with the previous Crew.
Eddie.
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tosspot - 28-07-2014 02:53@hanz: probably should have said 'one of' in that sentence.
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mansoor-aamir - 28-07-2014 03:15darkline wrote:
I think the problem with the game is that people don't know it exists,
Exactly!!! I never knew such management games existed. I thought only games like FIFA exist.
Once, I was just roaming on Miniclip when I found Power Soccer. The only reason I tried to have a go was 3D gaming & at the same time it was free, then the ads of MZ on Power Soccer brought me here...
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william - 28-07-2014 03:17It is sad that the reason we have taking great leaders to abandon the MZ direction are the fault of the game
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overthetop3 - 28-07-2014 05:22Woah, that's a lot of Mio you have there. Say, are these Mio's you have of the Akiyama variety, the Naganohara variety, or a different kind of Mio all-together?
In all seriousness though... paying customers do have an advantage over non-paying users. This has always been the case, even when I joined back in 2009. There's a small financial advantage, you get access to games that only affect form positively and never negatively, and there's a number of features that essentially allow CM's to play this game in auto-pilot!
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rivercampion - 28-07-2014 06:48
But that's the way it should be!...paying members 'should' have and advantage those are the ones that keep the ball rolling. If not MZ simply wouldn't exist.
I agree obviously with the apparent lack of a scheme for better ranking of the game in Google and others searches i.e. advertising the game and that has been the theme of eternal discussions/comments in these fora. Obviously one of the way you achieve that is again by paying 'real money' to the search engine rulers of the world...But again you need money to do that! And here we are complaining that the paying members have too many advantages...
Also managers (paying and non-paying) are the first ones to complain when we see advertising within the game and of course all of us use ad blockers, but is those clicks in those ads that also make 'money' for the survival of the game.
I know I will be criticized by this but..I know...so please save the insults. but perhaps one way it could help the game, that I have seen in other online 'free' games to make money is to 'guide' (for not using the word force) the non-paying members to gain CM status, is to make them watch short 20 seconds commercials once or twice a day they log into the game, it is those clicks, it is those commercials that provide some revenue. If you don't stand the commercials and have a few bucks to spare become a CM
If you don't pay 'real money' either to Google or to the 'gaming blogs/sites' you don't make it to the first pages of Google
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overthetop3 - 28-07-2014 09:03Are you suggesting that you want MZ to be an almost auto-pilot game?
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manolo_jimenez - 28-07-2014 18:55rivercampion wrote:If you don't pay 'real money' either to Google or to the 'gaming blogs/sites' you don't make it to the first pages of Google
Well, that is true.
Although ManagerZone has followed a rather aggressive and targeted campaign the last couple of seasons in order to promote the game via social media, it hasn't done the same via search engines and gaming blogs/sites.
I guess it requires a lot of money to pay Google, Yahoo!, Bing as well as mmohuts.com, mmobomb.com and the rest of online gaming sites that feature reviews, recommendations etc.
Those who can, support as much as they can.
If you asked me, the primary income of MZ comes from the memberships. There are 8-12k people at the moment, who support MZ with their CM and those are the ones helping the game move forward. The power tokens business is volatile (risky), rather random and "once-used" (e.g. Stadium appearance, Federation pass, etc.). Someone might pay for some features once (using pt) and never pay again. That does not help. Considering that the yearly CM cost is 26,49 euros (2,21 per month), why not apply a 50-100% increase on that and at the same time lower the cost of pt features. Strengthen the steady CM income and motivate the pt business by making it cheaper. More money will be available for search engines and gaming sites, more managers will come and the rest will come naturally.
MZ;)
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darkline - 28-07-2014 20:06rivercampion wrote:If you don't pay 'real money' either to Google or to the 'gaming blogs/sites' you don't make it to the first pages of Google
That might be true.... but then again, there are over 20 football manager games over managerzone in google results, so I guess they're willing to do whatever they have to do in order to be on top... now, are those game really that much better economically than managerzone, that they can invest those resources in good reviews and google ads?
I won't name the games to avoid problems, but it's hard to believe they're so much better off financially that they can do what managerzone can't, the current numbers of online users as of this time on those game are:
Managerzone: 3466
Game #1: Doesn't say but I actually played this one, it was fun but season goes too fast, teams get reset at the end of the season and you get bored quickly and abandon, it's more of a pay to win game with instant success guaranteed.
Game #2: 2496
Game #3: Doesn't say but it was voted Best Sports MMO 2013 & 2012
Game #4: 15 819 (I'll say this one was at a time the only real competitor of MZ)
Game #5: Doesn't say but claims to have 1,272,348 Managers (I think MZ claimed similar numbers)
Game #6: Some weird single player manager game
Game #7: 1319
Game #8: 356
Game #9: Doesn't say
Game #10: Doesn't say but claims 34,981 matches played in the last 24 hours.
So it's hard to compare, but it seems that most games positioned on the first page have a smaller userbase... but then, managerzone should be comparable to game #4 on this list, I believe once upon a time we had almost as many users as they did.... so I guess keeping a high profile on google and other review sites is what made the difference for them, because the that game is unbelievable boring (at least to me)
More to the point, if a game with 356 active users online can be on the first page of google results, then managerzone should be able to do it too..
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darkline - 28-07-2014 20:08I forgot, my search term was online football manager, but similar searches bring similar results really...
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dowopado - 28-07-2014 21:18@darkline...Are these games on the first page because they have more positive reviews by their user's? Can we boost MZ on these pages if our existing users were to provide positive reviews of MZ?
Just wondering if MZ ratings can be increased by our user base? Otherwise, how do they rate these games? Surely, it is not based on number of users, only.
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mosmosmos - 28-07-2014 21:52I have a printscreen somewhere which I took a few years ago with the site showing 9999 users online. I know that went above 10,000 for a period. This was probably around 2009.
Incidentally, Game #4 has 200,000 Facebook 'Likes' compared to MZ's 30,000. Whether this actually counts for anything is a different matter.
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Re: I offer 75 Mio. USD for the best player in this game!
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darkline - 28-07-2014 22:56@dowopado
There are websites specialized in reviewing web games, free MMO's, also blogs that review online games... I'm guessing you need to pay them to get them to review your game, now when an specialized site or blog links to you, is not only the users that might draw to your site that matter, but also that google looks for how many relevant sites are linking to yours to determine how important your site is and how relevant to different searches, I'm guessing that expending some money on google ads might also help them determine you're "more important"......
I'm sure there are other tecnics and methods that can be used to improve your search standings...
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Re: I offer 75 Mio. USD for the best player in this game!
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darkline - 28-07-2014 23:03@mos
You might be onto something with the facebook likes.... I checked the game that despite having 350 users, is on page #1 in google, and found they have a spammy facebook in which they also promote other games (link exchange?) and post spam about their own game all the time and they have 221,023 likes and 1,431 talking about this.....
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Uuesti: I offer 75 Mio. USD for the best player in this game!
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pahandus06 - 28-07-2014 23:53The game should have a DONATE button for the game advertisment.
Example:
Donate 5,10,50 or 100eur. Money needed for advertise 2000eur.
Currenty 126/2000 donated.
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Re: I offer 75 Mio. USD for the best player in this game!
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dowopado - 29-07-2014 00:23I was trying to share info about managerzone to the public through google. Funny thing is...now I have a site on google called the "best online soccer management game".
If you want, go to it and put in a comment, maybe we can keep it up front for requests of online soccer management games. Not sure how all this works, or if it is just there for me. Give it a shot, to see if it is there for you too.
Disregard this info. Seems it only works if connected to my account.Edited: 29-07-2014 02:00
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Re: I offer 75 Mio. USD for the best player in this game!
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tosspot - 29-07-2014 00:32MZ was rated so low because the entire site was behind a login page. To Google the site was just a single page that didn't say what it was.
Why do you think they have now opened the forums up to be visible by everyone?
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Re: I offer 75 Mio. USD for the best player in this game!
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rivercampion - 29-07-2014 02:28Maybe it was said maybe is lost in translations, besides the issue of paying real money to Google or gaming sites, it is well known that you increase your ranking in Google simply by the number of 'hits' the link receives within the search engine itself.
The ranking or finding of the page also is very much influence by the type and number of tags that identify the particular web page, the more comprehensive your description of the site the higher the chances to be picked up.
So a nice task for everybody would be to go to Google every morning look for MZ and hit the link 100 times and yeah...we will increase the ranking no doubt about it! Maybe we could create a new position within the admin structure of MZ for CAs (clickers administrators) and the job of those guys is to click and click and click the link :)
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Re: I offer 75 Mio. USD for the best player in this game!
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tosspot - 29-07-2014 02:37rivercampion wrote:So a nice task for everybody would be to go to Google every morning look for MZ and hit the link 100 times and yeah...we will increase the ranking no doubt about it! Maybe we could create a new position within the admin structure of MZ for CAs (clickers administrators) and the job of those guys is to click and click and click the link :)
lol, you really think Google - probably the smartest company in the world (algorithm wise) - wouldn't detect that and ignore or punish anyone that did it? I know they ban adsense accounts for doing just that.