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Youths from different nationality

By nick_shopenko - 28-04-2014 20:36

[EU/USA]
President

In todays world people migrate from country to country a lot. And their children often become citizens of the country they grew up in, but when it comes to playing for a national team they often choose to play for their native country. Adnan Januzaj is a great example of that. He joined Manchester United at the age of 16 and when he became a professional he was eligible to play for 4 or 5 different countries (Belgium, England, Kosovo, Serbia and Turkey). So why can't we implement that in MZ, it would be nice to have 10-15% of our youths from a different nationality. And it would be even better if we could choose the nationality in advance, maybe by building Youth Camps in different countries and getting youth players from them. I've seen this in other manager games, so why can't we do it here?In todays world people migrate from country to country a lot. And their children often become citizens of the country they grew up in, but when it comes to playing for a national team they often choose to play for their native country. Adnan Januzaj is a great example of that. He joined Manchester United at the age of 16 and when he became a professional he was eligible to play for 4 or 5 different countries (Belgium, England, Kosovo, Serbia and Turkey). So why can't we implement that in MZ, it would be nice to have 10-15% of our youths from a different nationality. And it would be even better if we could choose the nationality in advance, maybe by building Youth Camps in different countries and getting youth players from them. I've seen this in other manager games, so why can't we do it here?

 

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Re: Youths from different nationality

By mosmosmos - 28-04-2014 20:48

[ENG]

There is no logical reason to do it here. Given the fact the foreigner limit is how it is it makes it counter productive. I'd immediately exchange and foreign youths I had.There is no logical reason to do it here.

Given the fact the foreigner limit is how it is it makes it counter productive.

I'd immediately exchange and foreign youths I had.

Re: Youths from different nationality

By nick_shopenko - 28-04-2014 20:51

[EU/USA]
President

This way maybe even countries with little active managers could have good players for their national teams. In the long run this could make the national team matches more competitive.This way maybe even countries with little active managers could have good players for their national teams. In the long run this could make the national team matches more competitive.

Re: Youths from different nationality

By nick_shopenko - 28-04-2014 21:05

[EU/USA]
President

Maybe you would exchange him, but many managers would probably like to grow their own Brazilian striker instead of paying millions on the transfer market. And there are lots of managers here managing teams in a country that is not their native country, including many Polish managers with teams in England and USA, or Argentinians with teams in the USA, who would probably like to have a few players from their native country. Not to mention the managers with teams in MZ Country who would probably like to have players with a real nationality instead of a non-existing one. The foreigner limit could stay the same, once such youth graduates the manager could have the option to keep him if he has a foreign spot or sell him.Maybe you would exchange him, but many managers would probably like to grow their own Brazilian striker instead of paying millions on the transfer market. And there are lots of managers here managing teams in a country that is not their native country, including many Polish managers with teams in England and USA, or Argentinians with teams in the USA, who would probably like to have a few players from their native country. Not to mention the managers with teams in MZ Country who would probably like to have players with a real nationality instead of a non-existing one.
The foreigner limit could stay the same, once such youth graduates the manager could have the option to keep him if he has a foreign spot or sell him.

Re: Youths from different nationality

By mosmosmos - 28-04-2014 23:49

[ENG]

The point of growing home grown youths is to subsidise the massive spending on top foreign players, you spend millions on a Brazilian player because they are very hard to get on your own market. This doesn't make sense. It would be a huge disadvantage to any team to have a foreign spot taken but by a new graduate they have to train and have no control over. If you have the full quota of foreign players already in your first team, and then a promising youth turns up who happens to be foreign, you then are stuck between the choice selling a top player to keep him, or losing a promising youth. It's an idea based entirely on sentiment which from a practical and gameplay point of view has absolutely no advantage for the any manager, and only a list of negatives. And sentiment is one of the massive stumble blocks to success on this game, and you see it a lot.

nick_shopenko wrote:

Maybe you would exchange him, but many managers would probably like to grow their own Brazilian striker instead of paying millions on the transfer market.

The point of growing home grown youths is to subsidise the massive spending on top foreign players, you spend millions on a Brazilian player because they are very hard to get on your own market.

This doesn't make sense. It would be a huge disadvantage to any team to have a foreign spot taken but by a new graduate they have to train and have no control over.

If you have the full quota of foreign players already in your first team, and then a promising youth turns up who happens to be foreign, you then are stuck between the choice selling a top player to keep him, or losing a promising youth.

It's an idea based entirely on sentiment which from a practical and gameplay point of view has absolutely no advantage for the any manager, and only a list of negatives. And sentiment is one of the massive stumble blocks to success on this game, and you see it a lot.

Re: Youths from different nationality

By ivorylegend - 30-04-2014 22:59

[MZ UKI]

There is 0 benefit to the game by doing this.There is 0 benefit to the game by doing this.

Re: Youths from different nationality

By nick_shopenko - 01-05-2014 05:43

[EU/USA]
President

This is a managerial game so if a manager is stuck between the choice of selling a top player or losing a promising youth he will have to make a decision. Not an easy one I agree, but who says this game has to be easy? And if he decides to sell the promising youth, that will make the transfer market of that country more active, so no harm there. Sentiment brings an additional flavor to this game, if the game becomes too practical that would make it less interesting to the average manager. Success is defined differently by every manager, to you maybe it is winning cups and trophies, but for someone else it could be growing a player that makes the U21 national team of his native country. No, maybe there is no benefit to you, but it could be beneficial to many other managers. I am only proposing that there is an option for that, if a manager wants to spend some MZ money and build a camp somewhere in Nigeria and get nigerian youths in his team he should be able to do that. If you only want to have english youths in your team you simply don't build any camps in other countries.

mosmosmos wrote:

If you have the full quota of foreign players already in your first team, and then a promising youth turns up who happens to be foreign, you then are stuck between the choice selling a top player to keep him, or losing a promising youth.

It's an idea based entirely on sentiment which from a practical and gameplay point of view has absolutely no advantage for the any manager, and only a list of negatives. And sentiment is one of the massive stumble blocks to success on this game, and you see it a lot.

This is a managerial game so if a manager is stuck between the choice of selling a top player or losing a promising youth he will have to make a decision. Not an easy one I agree, but who says this game has to be easy? And if he decides to sell the promising youth, that will make the transfer market of that country more active, so no harm there.

Sentiment brings an additional flavor to this game, if the game becomes too practical that would make it less interesting to the average manager. Success is defined differently by every manager, to you maybe it is winning cups and trophies, but for someone else it could be growing a player that makes the U21 national team of his native country.

ivorylegend wrote:

There is 0 benefit to the game by doing this.

No, maybe there is no benefit to you, but it could be beneficial to many other managers.

I am only proposing that there is an option for that, if a manager wants to spend some MZ money and build a camp somewhere in Nigeria and get nigerian youths in his team he should be able to do that. If you only want to have english youths in your team you simply don't build any camps in other countries.

Re: Youths from different nationality

By tennis63 - 21-05-2014 23:53

I like the idea of foreign youths. What I would do is to make foreign youths exempt from the cap until they turn 18 or sign their first professional contract (whatever comes first)I like the idea of foreign youths. What I would do is to make foreign youths exempt from the cap until they turn 18 or sign their first professional contract (whatever comes first)

Re: Youths from different nationality

By tennis63 - 21-05-2014 23:57

This system can give plenty of time for people to determine if they want to keep their player or sell it to someone (that is if their foreign cap is full)This system can give plenty of time for people to determine if they want to keep their player or sell it to someone (that is if their foreign cap is full)

 

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