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what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By gamersrule - 15-02-2013 23:55

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Im a man-utd fan and though i hate arsene wenger i think he is a good manager, he made players like van persie and walcott who is a rising star, he trained a FRENCH striker tiery henry. he knows what he is doing, if players dont perform when given the chance why play them? (like chammakh, gerviniho ect excuse my spelling) its their fault not the managers, he signs players and uses them of their max ability and sells them at the peek. It takes managers like furgie and wenger to do that. Both had their good seasons, arsenal the invincibles and man-utd the trebble and double twice. though both have been known to make some big errors both are great long term managers. All arsenal care bout is the profit side football and you fans gotta accept that coz business wise only man-utd in the premier league could beet them. 8 years trophy less doesnt seem to scare away the investers and sponsors so i guess srsenal will cope fine. ps dont hate on furgiee, i know he has made mistakes but hey, no ones perfect... *editted title* - no swearin/ tonnerwhuIm a man-utd fan and though i hate arsene wenger i think he is a good manager, he made players like van persie and walcott who is a rising star, he trained a FRENCH striker tiery henry. he knows what he is doing, if players dont perform when given the chance why play them? (like chammakh, gerviniho ect excuse my spelling) its their fault not the managers, he signs players and uses them of their max ability and sells them at the peek. It takes managers like furgie and wenger to do that. Both had their good seasons, arsenal the invincibles and man-utd the trebble and double twice. though both have been known to make some big errors both are great long term managers. All arsenal care bout is the profit side football and you fans gotta accept that coz business wise only man-utd in the premier league could beet them. 8 years trophy less doesnt seem to scare away the investers and sponsors so i guess srsenal will cope fine.
ps dont hate on furgiee, i know he has made mistakes but hey, no ones perfect...

*editted title* - no swearin/ tonnerwhu

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By safctillidie - 16-02-2013 00:41

I hate football fans who try and be funny altering the names of managers and players, in order to look hilarious to others. it doesn't make you look hilarious, it makes you look like a cock ( if he can swear I can) and a pathetic child.I hate football fans who try and be funny altering the names of managers and players, in order to look hilarious to others. it doesn't make you look hilarious, it makes you look like a cock ( if he can swear I can) and a pathetic child.

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By kingjaime - 16-02-2013 03:09

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Walcott's 23 now. At some point he's going to become "never reached his potential". "he signs players and uses them of their max ability and sells them at the peek"? Francis Jeffers, Andrei Arshavin, Jose Antonio Reyes, Sebastien Squillaci, Mikael Silvestre, Richard Wright, Pascal Cygan, Luis Boa Morte, Christopher Wreh, Giovanni van Bronckhorst, Fran Merida, Eduardo. Marouane Chamakh, Gervinho, Johan Djourou, Philippe Senderos, Park Chu-Young, Igor Stepanov. Jermaine Pennant, Manuel Almunia. That is all. He's not had as much money as bosses of Man City and Chelsea, but he's had plenty, and he's spent a lot of it fairly poorly. It is absurd to try to give him credit for every success, but blame it on the player every failure. Ultimately, when he leaves, he will be thanked for the superb teams he assembled at times, the fine football they played, and the trophies they won. But he's had a long enough barren run now, with few signs of green-shoots, that I don't think he'll be massively mourned.Walcott's 23 now. At some point he's going to become "never reached his potential".

"he signs players and uses them of their max ability and sells them at the peek"?

Francis Jeffers, Andrei Arshavin, Jose Antonio Reyes, Sebastien Squillaci, Mikael Silvestre, Richard Wright, Pascal Cygan, Luis Boa Morte, Christopher Wreh, Giovanni van Bronckhorst, Fran Merida, Eduardo. Marouane Chamakh, Gervinho, Johan Djourou, Philippe Senderos, Park Chu-Young, Igor Stepanov. Jermaine Pennant, Manuel Almunia.

That is all.

He's not had as much money as bosses of Man City and Chelsea, but he's had plenty, and he's spent a lot of it fairly poorly. It is absurd to try to give him credit for every success, but blame it on the player every failure. Ultimately, when he leaves, he will be thanked for the superb teams he assembled at times, the fine football they played, and the trophies they won. But he's had a long enough barren run now, with few signs of green-shoots, that I don't think he'll be massively mourned.

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By safctillidie - 16-02-2013 22:58

to include reyes and van bronckhorst is a bit unfair kj, both went on to establish solid careers in la liga. the rest are shameful!to include reyes and van bronckhorst is a bit unfair kj, both went on to establish solid careers in la liga. the rest are shameful!

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By kingjaime - 16-02-2013 23:43

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My case would be that Reyes didn't improve at Arsenal, didn't contribute much, wasn't a good attitude around the place, and was sold at a loss. Van Bronckhorst was alright as a player, but for £8.5m he should've been a lot more than that. 2 seasons with 20-odd league appearances in each, departs for less than a quarter of the price Wenger paid. They're the thinner end of Wenger's failures, but if you're looking at "uses them of their max ability and sells them at their peek", they belong as part of the counter-argument ;)My case would be that Reyes didn't improve at Arsenal, didn't contribute much, wasn't a good attitude around the place, and was sold at a loss. Van Bronckhorst was alright as a player, but for £8.5m he should've been a lot more than that. 2 seasons with 20-odd league appearances in each, departs for less than a quarter of the price Wenger paid.

They're the thinner end of Wenger's failures, but if you're looking at "uses them of their max ability and sells them at their peek", they belong as part of the counter-argument ;)

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By gamersrule - 17-02-2013 11:46

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well i hate him simply coz i support man-utd but it would be unfair if he gets the sack, arsenal want top 4 has he has been doing that for as long as i can remember, the most peek sack was de matteo former chelsea manager, i again hated him coz of rivalry but i really feel for him, apparently he was too good for chelsea.well i hate him simply coz i support man-utd but it would be unfair if he gets the sack, arsenal want top 4 has he has been doing that for as long as i can remember, the most peek sack was de matteo former chelsea manager, i again hated him coz of rivalry but i really feel for him, apparently he was too good for chelsea.

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By tosspot - 17-02-2013 11:56

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I don't get why you need to hate someone because of 'rivalry'.I don't get why you need to hate someone because of 'rivalry'.

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By grinner - 17-02-2013 14:41

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Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By safctillidie - 17-02-2013 17:30

see your point in a way kj. at the end of the day the fascinating stat that arsene wenger has never won anything with a team built of his own signings/youth graduates leads you to think he isn't very good in the transfer market at allsee your point in a way kj. at the end of the day the fascinating stat that arsene wenger has never won anything with a team built of his own signings/youth graduates leads you to think he isn't very good in the transfer market at all

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By heddo - 18-02-2013 03:10

well, if you go back to the days of seaman, adams, merson, and all of the others in that era, Arsenal became the first team to have no english players in the starting line up, which means that at some point, a major shake up took place, from the time of the aforementioned names, once that old gaurd in the dressing room fizzled out, then you are left with what you have now, should Arsene Wenger take credit for anything, no , i dont think he should,he is petulant , arrogant, over rated , and has nt really been much good for english football , if the truth be known..well, if you go back to the days of seaman, adams, merson, and all of the others in that era, Arsenal became the first team to have no english players in the starting line up, which means that at some point, a major shake up took place, from the time of the aforementioned names, once that old gaurd in the dressing room fizzled out, then you are left with what you have now, should Arsene Wenger take credit for anything, no , i dont think he should,he is petulant , arrogant, over rated , and has nt really been much good for english football , if the truth be known..

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By kingjaime - 18-02-2013 06:12

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I thought Vialli at Chelsea fielded the first all-foreign team...? Or was that non-British and Wenger the first non-English...? Or maybe Vialli's was the first entire match-day squad, including subs... hmmm... better look this up...I thought Vialli at Chelsea fielded the first all-foreign team...? Or was that non-British and Wenger the first non-English...? Or maybe Vialli's was the first entire match-day squad, including subs... hmmm... better look this up...

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By basswielder - 18-02-2013 07:14

edurado?? pliz.. try breaking messi's legs into 2 and see if he can cope with it. fran merida? got him 4 free from barca's academy. no harm there. Sebastien Squillaci, Mikael Silvestre??, Pascal Cygan, Luis Boa Morte, Christopher Wreh,Fran Merida, Eduardo, Marouane Chamakh, Johan Djourou, Philippe Senderos, Park Chu-Young, Igor Stepanov. Jermaine Pennant, Manuel Almunia.... all cost peanuts or nothing. maybe they wud account 2 only 10% of what fergie paid of obertan's transfer fee!!!edurado?? pliz.. try breaking messi's legs into 2 and see if he can cope with it.
fran merida? got him 4 free from barca's academy. no harm there.

Sebastien Squillaci, Mikael Silvestre??, Pascal Cygan, Luis Boa Morte, Christopher Wreh,Fran Merida, Eduardo, Marouane Chamakh, Johan Djourou, Philippe Senderos, Park Chu-Young, Igor Stepanov. Jermaine Pennant, Manuel Almunia.... all cost peanuts or nothing.
maybe they wud account 2 only 10% of what fergie paid of obertan's transfer fee!!!

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By basswielder - 18-02-2013 07:22

ooohhh!! then there is bebe & Klebersonooohhh!! then there is bebe & Kleberson

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By pho_oenix - 18-02-2013 12:33

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arsene wengers plays it like it sld be played. An idea method along with barcelonas youth system strategy. It wld help improve competitiveness among all countries and sort of among all clubs. Hope FIFA brings in the Fair play rule asap.arsene wengers plays it like it sld be played. An idea method along with barcelonas youth system strategy. It wld help improve competitiveness among all countries and sort of among all clubs.

Hope FIFA brings in the Fair play rule asap.

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By safctillidie - 18-02-2013 18:03

maybe not basswielder, but id rather have a manager at the helm who loses a few quid every now and then but spends on top players ande wins trophies, that cant be said about wenger. deluded arsenal fan........maybe not basswielder, but id rather have a manager at the helm who loses a few quid every now and then but spends on top players ande wins trophies, that cant be said about wenger. deluded arsenal fan........

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By kingjaime - 18-02-2013 21:19

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Yeah but bass, look at the claim I'm responding to. People like Almunia, a prime example, was bought cheap, was crap, and got sold cheap. For Arsenal, Eduardo was poor before the injury and equally poor afterwards, no decline from having his leg broken, sold at a loss. Merida was a bright young talent, it was quite a coup, not to mention typically sly, the way Arsenal got involved in him running away from Barca. And under the much-vaunted tutelage of Wenger he grew into... Meh. And then he left.Yeah but bass, look at the claim I'm responding to. People like Almunia, a prime example, was bought cheap, was crap, and got sold cheap. For Arsenal, Eduardo was poor before the injury and equally poor afterwards, no decline from having his leg broken, sold at a loss. Merida was a bright young talent, it was quite a coup, not to mention typically sly, the way Arsenal got involved in him running away from Barca. And under the much-vaunted tutelage of Wenger he grew into... Meh. And then he left.

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By crispyduck - 19-02-2013 01:50

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I can't help but be critical of Wenger, and arguably the general criticism he's getting is growing each season. Everyone will compare him to Alex Ferguson because the two had a strong rivalry in the past and teams with plenty of history, etc etc. Aren't they the two longest serving Premiership managers? So when Manchester United are winning titles and Arsenal aren't qualifying for the Champions League there's going to be that comparison and of course Wenger looks in bad shape. The problem always is, if you sack Wenger - who replaces him? (first person to say Pep Guardiola gets a thousand lashes). Some might argue for Martin O'Neill but in all honesty you can maybe write Arsenal down as "the new Liverpool" in terms of a team that's fallen from grace and is struggling. No fan of either team incidentally.I can't help but be critical of Wenger, and arguably the general criticism he's getting is growing each season. Everyone will compare him to Alex Ferguson because the two had a strong rivalry in the past and teams with plenty of history, etc etc. Aren't they the two longest serving Premiership managers?

So when Manchester United are winning titles and Arsenal aren't qualifying for the Champions League there's going to be that comparison and of course Wenger looks in bad shape. The problem always is, if you sack Wenger - who replaces him? (first person to say Pep Guardiola gets a thousand lashes).

Some might argue for Martin O'Neill but in all honesty you can maybe write Arsenal down as "the new Liverpool" in terms of a team that's fallen from grace and is struggling.

No fan of either team incidentally.

Re: what i think of arsenals manager - arsene wenger

By chelseax1 - 20-02-2013 13:38

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after last night i think he is going to leave end of season n maybe will be joining "CHELSEA".after last night i think he is going to leave end of season n maybe will be joining "CHELSEA".

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By vanshika - 20-02-2013 14:39

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he wont be joining Chelsea for sure........But i think he has done a good job considering many key players have left the team in the past seasons...It is very difficult to build the team again with new players..and he is still managing to keep the club in top 4.... Though he has not used the transfer resources well....They they have 70 mil to spend this summer as said evry summer....Lets see !!!...In the end he would say He did not get the Right Player in the market...tired of his transfer policy now.... He should learn smthing from AVB he has done wonders in TM..

chelseax1 wrote:

after last night i think he is going to leave end of season n maybe will be joining "CHELSEA".

he wont be joining Chelsea for sure........But i think he has done a good job considering many key players have left the team in the past seasons...It is very difficult to build the team again with new players..and he is still managing to keep the club in top 4....

Though he has not used the transfer resources well....They they have 70 mil to spend this summer as said evry summer....Lets see !!!...In the end he would say He did not get the Right Player in the market...tired of his transfer policy now....

He should learn smthing from AVB he has done wonders in TM..

 

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