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MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 22-05-2012 04:08

[MZUSA]
President

Here is the newest place for managers from the USA to check in with each other, seek advice, discuss the game or seek encouraging words after discouraging results. Use it well and welcome to the community. Below are the table for the latest round of the MZUSA Federations Friendly League series. If you'd like to join in the next round post on this thrad and you will be added to the waiting list. [image url=http://mzplus.com.ar/imgdin_liga?user=&idla=495907&nombre=MZUSA%20FL%20A%20League] [image url=http://mzplus.com.ar/imgdin_liga?user=&idla=495936&nombre=MZUSA%20FL%2017th%20ed%20B%20League] [image url=http://mzplus.com.ar/imgdin_liga?user=&idla=495980&nombre=MZUSA%20FL%2017th%20ed%20C%20League] [image url=http://mzplus.com.ar/imgdin_liga?user=&idla=496018&nombre=MZUSA%20FL%2017th%20ed%20D%20League]Here is the newest place for managers from the USA to check in with each other, seek advice, discuss the game or seek encouraging words after discouraging results. Use it well and welcome to the community.

Below are the table for the latest round of the MZUSA Federations Friendly League series. If you'd like to join in the next round post on this thrad and you will be added to the waiting list.

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Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By pulginh0 - 13-07-2012 18:53

[MZUSA]

@tree You can add me as well@tree

You can add me as well

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 13-07-2012 21:24

[MZUSA]
President

Up to 15 interested folks. I'll send all the names along in case he needs extras. 1. tree_amigos 2. dowopado 3. fernandiuxz 4. mchutio_fc 5. s08sstrom 6. quazz56 7. thunderthunder 8. adv41449 9. dark228 10. apwall21 11. nick_shopenko 12. darkline 13. jdub 14. pabloland 15. pulginh0 Also, invites have started going out for the next round of the MZUSA Friendly League series. We are hoping to start matches near the beginning of next season (S43) so please accept you invites as soon as possible or let us know if you will not be partaking this round so we can find another manager to take your spot. Thanks.Up to 15 interested folks. I'll send all the names along in case he needs extras.
1. tree_amigos
2. dowopado
3. fernandiuxz
4. mchutio_fc
5. s08sstrom
6. quazz56
7. thunderthunder
8. adv41449
9. dark228
10. apwall21
11. nick_shopenko
12. darkline
13. jdub
14. pabloland
15. pulginh0

Also, invites have started going out for the next round of the MZUSA Friendly League series. We are hoping to start matches near the beginning of next season (S43) so please accept you invites as soon as possible or let us know if you will not be partaking this round so we can find another manager to take your spot. Thanks.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By fernandiuxz - 14-07-2012 00:31

[FLUSA]

Ill join as soon as they fix paypal [:$][:$]Ill join as soon as they fix paypal :$:$

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By adv41449 - 14-07-2012 20:14

[CUFC]
President

How will we know if an invite is for this thing? I get plenty of friendly invites, I just need to know which is which.How will we know if an invite is for this thing? I get plenty of friendly invites, I just need to know which is which.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 14-07-2012 22:55

[MZUSA]
President

Are you asking about the Federations Cup? I'm pretty sure they haven't gone out yet. I'll try to get the exact name he's calling it so you will know. As for the MZUSA FL series, the title will start with that info.Are you asking about the Federations Cup? I'm pretty sure they haven't gone out yet. I'll try to get the exact name he's calling it so you will know.

As for the MZUSA FL series, the title will start with that info.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By c-ronaldo - 15-07-2012 02:18

[303132]

Hello everyone,Thank you for your support in the elections,many of you voted for me,I really appreciate your support, Thank you so much.[image url=http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac355/ccc_vader/24-rock.gif]Hello everyone,Thank you for your support in the elections,many of you voted for me,I really appreciate your support, Thank you so much.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By fernandiuxz - 19-07-2012 04:22

[FLUSA]

How's evrybody doing? [:O]How's evrybody doing? :O

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By dowopado - 19-07-2012 06:50

[BotP]

Okie dokie, I suppose. Getting a taste of how the big boys play in div 1. Lost first game 2-1 to New England Minas.Okie dokie, I suppose. Getting a taste of how the big boys play in div 1. Lost first game 2-1 to New England Minas.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 19-07-2012 10:03

[MZUSA]
President

Big victory in my first game back down in Div 3. Relegation sell off is going well, but taking some big losses from what I paid for the players - so far down 200K and unless there's a bidding war might lose 500K on another tonight. At least it helps keep bankruptcy at bay until mid-season. Getting back to basics and buying a couple of promising youngsters to develop rather than established players this season.Big victory in my first game back down in Div 3. Relegation sell off is going well, but taking some big losses from what I paid for the players - so far down 200K and unless there's a bidding war might lose 500K on another tonight. At least it helps keep bankruptcy at bay until mid-season. Getting back to basics and buying a couple of promising youngsters to develop rather than established players this season.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 22-07-2012 00:24

[MZUSA]
President

Things are looking good for the next round of the MZUSA FL. A League is almost full, just waiting to see who takes 3rd in the B League for the final invite to A. B is over half full as is C. D continues to be the rough spot with only 6 teams signed up so far. This is a typical problem and if anyone is interested in joining the D League - usually newer or lower division teams please let us know.Things are looking good for the next round of the MZUSA FL. A League is almost full, just waiting to see who takes 3rd in the B League for the final invite to A. B is over half full as is C. D continues to be the rough spot with only 6 teams signed up so far. This is a typical problem and if anyone is interested in joining the D League - usually newer or lower division teams please let us know.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By pabloland - 23-07-2012 04:44

[MZUSA]

thanks for the invite to the mzusa league again. I also was relegated to div 3 again tres_amigos but started on the right foot. both games with a 6 to 0 result. but there is 1 maybe 2 that will be pretty hard. not sure if I should rid of some costly players for this season and hope to get something better if I go back to div 2 next season.thanks for the invite to the mzusa league again.

I also was relegated to div 3 again tres_amigos but started on the right foot. both games with a 6 to 0 result. but there is 1 maybe 2 that will be pretty hard. not sure if I should rid of some costly players for this season and hope to get something better if I go back to div 2 next season.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 23-07-2012 12:48

[MZUSA]
President

I weighed the value of keeping players against the risk of bankruptcy and determined that I needed to sell off a few players. If your finances are solid and your not worried about potential retirements from older players you could probably keep everyone. If getting rid of a couple high priced players makes more sense and doesn't hurt your chances of promotion, I'd say sell and hope to get good replacements for next season.I weighed the value of keeping players against the risk of bankruptcy and determined that I needed to sell off a few players. If your finances are solid and your not worried about potential retirements from older players you could probably keep everyone. If getting rid of a couple high priced players makes more sense and doesn't hurt your chances of promotion, I'd say sell and hope to get good replacements for next season.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 26-07-2012 03:33

[MZUSA]
President

Final promotion spot in B League wasn't decided until the final match of the season. Congrats to Real Salt Lake on narrowly edging out SE Firewheel on goal difference. A League is now full. B and C are only a couple of places away at 15 and 14 places respectively. D League is a little farther behind but still has 11 spots full. We are hoping to start the FL's next week and I will open a new MZUSA Federation thread with the new FL tables when that happens.Final promotion spot in B League wasn't decided until the final match of the season. Congrats to Real Salt Lake on narrowly edging out SE Firewheel on goal difference.

A League is now full. B and C are only a couple of places away at 15 and 14 places respectively. D League is a little farther behind but still has 11 spots full. We are hoping to start the FL's next week and I will open a new MZUSA Federation thread with the new FL tables when that happens.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By pabloland - 26-07-2012 18:56

[MZUSA]

Yeah, i'm not worried about bankruptcy. Just trying to squeeze as much as possible while saving some ching for next year. The problem is that the players i have today is what made me fell from Div. 2. so if they are not enough for Div2. and putting some youths in my starting squad seems enough for winning Div. 3... one thought would be to sell now and save those salaries... However, another thought would be to think outside of the league but i'm far away from trying to win any official cup so...Yeah, i'm not worried about bankruptcy. Just trying to squeeze as much as possible while saving some ching for next year. The problem is that the players i have today is what made me fell from Div. 2. so if they are not enough for Div2. and putting some youths in my starting squad seems enough for winning Div. 3... one thought would be to sell now and save those salaries... However, another thought would be to think outside of the league but i'm far away from trying to win any official cup so...

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 27-07-2012 01:24

[MZUSA]
President

I spent a number of seasons in Div 3 working on improving my younger players before I finally made it to Div 2. Selling older, more expensive players could pay off as not only will you get the cash from the sale, but you will also clear the money you would have spent on wages. I've considered selling some of my older players as well this season (beyond those I needed to sell to stay afloat), but many of them started with my team as youths and I've grow attached to them so most likely will hold on to them.I spent a number of seasons in Div 3 working on improving my younger players before I finally made it to Div 2. Selling older, more expensive players could pay off as not only will you get the cash from the sale, but you will also clear the money you would have spent on wages. I've considered selling some of my older players as well this season (beyond those I needed to sell to stay afloat), but many of them started with my team as youths and I've grow attached to them so most likely will hold on to them.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By mchutio_fc - 27-07-2012 03:52

[MZUSA]

Only two spots remain in the MZUSA FL D League. If you're considering participating this season, act now and sign up!Only two spots remain in the MZUSA FL D League. If you're considering participating this season, act now and sign up!

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 27-07-2012 23:40

[MZUSA]
President

Two spots as well in the C League. And one in the B League. If you've gotten an invite and would like to partake now is the time to accept the invite.Two spots as well in the C League. And one in the B League. If you've gotten an invite and would like to partake now is the time to accept the invite.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 29-07-2012 02:36

[MZUSA]
President

The B, C, and D leagues of the MZUSA FL series are all very close to full (15,14,15) and each league currently has more invites sent than there are spots remaining. If you would like to participate this season, please accept your invites. We are also soliciting other teams to find willing managers.The B, C, and D leagues of the MZUSA FL series are all very close to full (15,14,15) and each league currently has more invites sent than there are spots remaining. If you would like to participate this season, please accept your invites. We are also soliciting other teams to find willing managers.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 30-07-2012 12:54

[MZUSA]
President

A and D Leagues are full, B and C both have one slot remaining.A and D Leagues are full, B and C both have one slot remaining.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By mchutio_fc - 01-08-2012 19:34

[MZUSA]

Is it just me, or does anyone else have an issue with league opponents Instant Matching you the day of your league match? I think it's unethical and the wrong way to play.Is it just me, or does anyone else have an issue with league opponents Instant Matching you the day of your league match? I think it's unethical and the wrong way to play.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By dowopado - 01-08-2012 20:20

[BotP]

It's everyones option if they choose to do it. I have done it a few times for FLs but have yet to have done it for league games. My opponents have done it a few times in league games. It really doesn't bother me because instant matches play a lot different than league games, it really doesn't always portray what will happen in league games.It's everyones option if they choose to do it. I have done it a few times for FLs but have yet to have done it for league games. My opponents have done it a few times in league games. It really doesn't bother me because instant matches play a lot different than league games, it really doesn't always portray what will happen in league games.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By s08sstrom - 02-08-2012 00:41

[MZUSA]

I had that happen to me today. I got instant matched twice and won 3-0 and 3-1, then lost the league game 4-0 against the same tactic that I beat 3-1. In the instant match I outchanced the opponent 20-4, but was outchanced 15-13 in the league game. I'm not sure how it is possible to have that big of a difference between the games when the same tactics were used.I had that happen to me today. I got instant matched twice and won 3-0 and 3-1, then lost the league game 4-0 against the same tactic that I beat 3-1. In the instant match I outchanced the opponent 20-4, but was outchanced 15-13 in the league game. I'm not sure how it is possible to have that big of a difference between the games when the same tactics were used.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By mchutio_fc - 02-08-2012 01:33

[MZUSA]

i've always liked to use my instant matches to play foreign clubs in an attempt to collect their flag on my ticker, in a way sending my club on a world tour and speading my brand. i've also used them to test tactics against myself i personally frown on using the instant matches on upcoming opponents for that's not an option any real club has in actuality. my club will win and lose with honor. Also, if the instant matches always playout so differently as you say @dowopado, what purpose do they really serve if the instant match data isn't applicapble to other matches? i haven't heard that beforei've always liked to use my instant matches to play foreign clubs in an attempt to collect their flag on my ticker, in a way sending my club on a world tour and speading my brand. i've also used them to test tactics against myself

i personally frown on using the instant matches on upcoming opponents for that's not an option any real club has in actuality. my club will win and lose with honor.

Also, if the instant matches always playout so differently as you say @dowopado, what purpose do they really serve if the instant match data isn't applicapble to other matches? i haven't heard that before

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By dowopado - 02-08-2012 06:11

[BotP]

@mchutio....." that's not an option any real club has in actuality" You puzzle me with this statement. If MZ didn't intend for that to be an option in actuality, then they wouldn't have it there. I have several incidents where opponents have instant match me before games but it wasn't indicative of the result in the actual match. Such as s08sstrom has experienced in the above post. Generally, I will test tactics against myself then instant match a friend to test the tactic then try the tactic in a friendly. Sometimes I use FLs to test tactics. Whatever you draw from all this, remember one thing. You can play the game however you want for the sake of your honor but don't expect others to follow suit. They pay for the right to play the game however they see fit with the tools available to them.@mchutio....." that's not an option any real club has in actuality" You puzzle me with this statement. If MZ didn't intend for that to be an option in actuality, then they wouldn't have it there.
I have several incidents where opponents have instant match me before games but it wasn't indicative of the result in the actual match. Such as s08sstrom has experienced in the above post. Generally, I will test tactics against myself then instant match a friend to test the tactic then try the tactic in a friendly. Sometimes I use FLs to test tactics.
Whatever you draw from all this, remember one thing. You can play the game however you want for the sake of your honor but don't expect others to follow suit. They pay for the right to play the game however they see fit with the tools available to them.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 02-08-2012 13:21

[MZUSA]
President

Only time I've used IM's against potential opponents was going into the relegation playoffs last year. Played a few matches against the teams who looked to be potential foes just to gauge their strength. Usually I use mine to play against the National Team or against national teams of smaller countries. Sometimes I'll play them against friends when trying to decide which player is better in a certain spot - same tactic but switch out the one player for another. Some months I don't get around to using them, which I guess is a waste.Only time I've used IM's against potential opponents was going into the relegation playoffs last year. Played a few matches against the teams who looked to be potential foes just to gauge their strength. Usually I use mine to play against the National Team or against national teams of smaller countries. Sometimes I'll play them against friends when trying to decide which player is better in a certain spot - same tactic but switch out the one player for another. Some months I don't get around to using them, which I guess is a waste.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By mchutio_fc - 02-08-2012 17:10

[MZUSA]

@dowopado did Chelsea get to practice or 'instant match' the Bayern Munich squad before the Champions league final? I think not, if that helps explain what ive puzzled you over. I get the most enjoyment from MZ by managing in the most realistic sense allowable, and you're right not to expect other clubs to share my principles when they don't have to. That would be naive.@dowopado did Chelsea get to practice or 'instant match' the Bayern Munich squad before the Champions league final? I think not, if that helps explain what ive puzzled you over. I get the most enjoyment from MZ by managing in the most realistic sense allowable, and you're right not to expect other clubs to share my principles when they don't have to. That would be naive.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By dowopado - 02-08-2012 19:42

[BotP]

I see, I see said the blind man as he tripped over a stick going through the door. I see, I see. Yet, the tool is still there as a option. Maybe its because MZ is not real life. In reality managers/coaches would be able to make changes and substitutions as the game progresses so they don't need to practice prior to the game.I see, I see said the blind man as he tripped over a stick going through the door. I see, I see.
Yet, the tool is still there as a option. Maybe its because MZ is not real life. In reality managers/coaches would be able to make changes and substitutions as the game progresses so they don't need to practice prior to the game.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By mchutio_fc - 02-08-2012 22:09

[MZUSA]

You would like a more realistic sim? So would I as would most clubs! MZ is not perfect, and practicing against your match day opponenet makes MZ even more imperfect and unrealistic! I prepare by looking at my opponents prior matches: what formations they use and what's been used against them; who plays where and so forth, as any real manager does. There is plenty of film on any opponent you'll ever play! There's too much information already there on your opponent to warrant such actions with instant matches.You would like a more realistic sim? So would I as would most clubs!
MZ is not perfect, and practicing against your match day opponenet makes MZ even more imperfect and unrealistic!
I prepare by looking at my opponents prior matches: what formations they use and what's been used against them; who plays where and so forth, as any real manager does. There is plenty of film on any opponent you'll ever play!
There's too much information already there on your opponent to warrant such actions with instant matches.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By dowopado - 03-08-2012 02:16

[BotP]

Ok. My last comment on this topic. We all do the same things, you speak of, in scouting our opponents prior to matches. The only difference is you don't like users using IMs on the same day as the match. I don't care it doesn't bother me at all if the user decides to use that technique it's his perrogative. We will have to deal with it until MZ decides to eliminate the IM, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Friends with different opinions. Maybe you can put it as a poll question on the Manager Talk forum. It might get some reviews and Crews attention for future improvements.Ok. My last comment on this topic. We all do the same things, you speak of, in scouting our opponents prior to matches. The only difference is you don't like users using IMs on the same day as the match. I don't care it doesn't bother me at all if the user decides to use that technique it's his perrogative. We will have to deal with it until MZ decides to eliminate the IM, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Friends with different opinions.
Maybe you can put it as a poll question on the Manager Talk forum. It might get some reviews and Crews attention for future improvements.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 03-08-2012 23:42

[MZUSA]
President

Also keep in mind that IM plays his tactic against the tactic from your last league match. If you've altered your tactics at all the match really doesn't help to figure out effective counter strategies.Also keep in mind that IM plays his tactic against the tactic from your last league match. If you've altered your tactics at all the match really doesn't help to figure out effective counter strategies.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By dowopado - 03-08-2012 23:54

[BotP]

Very true.Very true.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By fernandiuxz - 04-08-2012 20:48

[FLUSA]

Usa 4 brasil 1 ,good job cronaldo NCUsa 4 brasil 1 ,good job cronaldo NC

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By dowopado - 04-08-2012 21:35

[BotP]

YOOHOO!!!!!! Thats awesome.YOOHOO!!!!!! Thats awesome.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By c-ronaldo - 05-08-2012 00:10

[303132]

First title in the history of USA, thank you to all for your help and support,I am very happy and without words of the emotion to having this first title.First title in the history of USA, thank you to all for your help and support,I am very happy and without words of the emotion to having this first title.

Re: MZUSA Federation #7

By tree_amigos - 05-08-2012 07:25

[MZUSA]
President

Excellent job. Fantastic game. Don't know what else to say except keep up the good work.Excellent job. Fantastic game. Don't know what else to say except keep up the good work.

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