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Training speeds

By k33n3y - 11-01-2021 22:00

I was hoping someone had some knowledge they could share with me or point me in the right direction? Im trying to calculate how long it would take players to pop to their next ball etc. I believe coaching, age and training speed are the 3 things that affect the overall training gain of a player. My question is. Does eveeryball have say 100 segments within them? So if a player trains 5 segments a day. Would it take 20 days to pop in theory? Does anyone know how many segments a player needs total to pop? Does it change player to player? Or is the total number of segments between balls are all static?I was hoping someone had some knowledge they could share with me or point me in the right direction?

Im trying to calculate how long it would take players to pop to their next ball etc.

I believe coaching, age and training speed are the 3 things that affect the overall training gain of a player.

My question is. Does eveeryball have say 100 segments within them? So if a player trains 5 segments a day. Would it take 20 days to pop in theory?

Does anyone know how many segments a player needs total to pop? Does it change player to player? Or is the total number of segments between balls are all static?

 

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Re: Training speeds

By tree_amigos - 11-01-2021 23:50

[MZ]

Interesting question. I'm not sure if anyone has ever calculated that.Interesting question. I'm not sure if anyone has ever calculated that.

Re: Training speeds

By tree_amigos - 12-01-2021 00:09

[MZ]

After a quick look at 3 of my players, it does not look like there is a set number of segments per skill ball. For their 5th ball of speed, my players had 90, 66, and 72 segments after gaining their fourth ball. Numbers were pretty varied for 3rd, 4th and 6th skill balls as well. I did not normalize for player age at the time of training to see if that made a difference.After a quick look at 3 of my players, it does not look like there is a set number of segments per skill ball. For their 5th ball of speed, my players had 90, 66, and 72 segments after gaining their fourth ball. Numbers were pretty varied for 3rd, 4th and 6th skill balls as well. I did not normalize for player age at the time of training to see if that made a difference.

Re: Training speeds

By k33n3y - 12-01-2021 00:38

Thank you for that knowledge. On the 3 players above. Can I ask what their age and training speed were?Thank you for that knowledge.

On the 3 players above. Can I ask what their age and training speed were?

Re: Training speeds

By k33n3y - 12-01-2021 01:05

Did some analyse myself. There seems to he a correlation of needing more segments as the balls increase. So going from balls 3 to 4 would require less overall segments than going from 4 balls to 5. It also seems the training speed is minimal. So unless this is exponentially better when combined with training camp i'm unsure. I've had a range between 51 and 91 balls across a wide variety of players between 16 and 22.Did some analyse myself.

There seems to he a correlation of needing more segments as the balls increase.

So going from balls 3 to 4 would require less overall segments than going from 4 balls to 5.

It also seems the training speed is minimal. So unless this is exponentially better when combined with training camp i'm unsure.

I've had a range between 51 and 91 balls across a wide variety of players between 16 and 22.

Re: Training speeds

By k33n3y - 12-01-2021 01:07

I might look to put a spreadsheet together soon. See if I can figure out what element age, current ball and training speed have. My ultimate goal is figuring out the segments required because we know training speed, coaches and training camps will increase the amount of segments.I might look to put a spreadsheet together soon. See if I can figure out what element age, current ball and training speed have.

My ultimate goal is figuring out the segments required because we know training speed, coaches and training camps will increase the amount of segments.

Re: Training speeds

By chucky06 (RA) - 12-01-2021 06:33

[AUSH]

It’s tough because training can be completely random and all players train at different speeds.

k33n3y wrote:

I might look to put a spreadsheet together soon. See if I can figure out what element age, current ball and training speed have.

My ultimate goal is figuring out the segments required because we know training speed, coaches and training camps will increase the amount of segments.

It’s tough because training can be completely random and all players train at different speeds.

Re: Training speeds

By k33n3y - 12-01-2021 09:23

Do we know this for a fact? There has to be a method in the madness?

chucky06 wrote:

It’s tough because training can be completely random and all players train at different speeds.

Do we know this for a fact? There has to be a method in the madness?

Re: Training speeds

By horas - 12-01-2021 10:41

I agree with chucky06, it`s tough to make clear calculation rule, because all the players are training in different speeds. But if you will make it just share, it`s also interesting for me :)I agree with chucky06, it`s tough to make clear calculation rule, because all the players are training in different speeds.

But if you will make it just share, it`s also interesting for me :)

Re: Training speeds

By k33n3y - 12-01-2021 21:55

Haha ill do it and share all my findings. How will I ever catch up with you lot.Haha ill do it and share all my findings.

How will I ever catch up with you lot.

Re: Training speeds

By tree_amigos - 12-01-2021 23:53

[MZ]

I'm not sure what the ages were when each ball was earned. I may put together a spreadsheet as well when I get some spare time. I know I did some tracking on my youth quite a while back and they were averaging a new ball every 17 days, but that was before the most recent changes to training speed.

k33n3y wrote:

Thank you for that knowledge.

On the 3 players above. Can I ask what their age and training speed were?

I'm not sure what the ages were when each ball was earned. I may put together a spreadsheet as well when I get some spare time. I know I did some tracking on my youth quite a while back and they were averaging a new ball every 17 days, but that was before the most recent changes to training speed.

 

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