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Coalition for a new simulator

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[RAF]
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As it can be seen in the rare appearances of Crew nowadays on the forums, they don't seem to believe that a new simulator is actually a priority and they are even having Marcus, the guy brought especially (at least claimed) for improving the simulator, working on other stuff.

Okay, maybe they just don't understand how many of us believe that the main priority in order to save this game (or make it better) is a new simulator (aside establishing some form of communication with the communities) so I decided to help them understand this. And I need your support!

Thus, I hereby establish the Coalition for a New Simulator, in brief CNS, which is, for the moment, a topic where we are gathering subscriptions to this noble idea, in order to show that a new simulator should actually be the foremost priority in this game. A simple "+1" will suffice to show your adhesion to CNS - if you want to insert some brief comments, please go ahead but remember that this is a thread to see how many we actually are.

Please, tell me if you agree, or not, so that we may show Crew that we are not so few as they must believe it if they keep neglecting improving the simulator.
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[RAF]
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Guys,

Thank you all for the support shown in this thread but as mentioned previously, Crew have become very aware of this thread and have put in place a plan to work and change the sim, as most of us in here (and not only) requested.

So, from my point of view, any discussion in here is useless as it's goal was reached and I would suggest continuing in the specific new H2H sim threads that Patrick created, in order to provide useful feedbacks for the future sim.

In other words (take it as a request for a FA)...

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All simulators matter.

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aemi wrote:
All simulators matter.


Good addition to the topic.

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Coco, this topic proved that the sim was, is and will always be the main concern of the communities. At the time this topic, created across all national forums, lead to a rather interesting change in the simulator.

And I know that the new old Crew guys is aware that the user base is mainly into MZ because of the sim and 3D, which has made the difference between MZ and hattrick or the likes of...

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civilu wrote:
hatt+=*&#@ or the likes of...

Don't you dare mention that again, uncensored. True what you have said though. I agreed with you twice in a day, this is to much for me to handle...



coconut_wolf_bandit wrote:
Good addition to the topic.

Show me a post where I added something to the discussion, and I'll show you a dozen where I didn't.

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aemi wrote:
Show me a post where I added something to the discussion, and I'll show you a dozen where I didn't.


Just a dozen?

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coconut_wolf_bandit wrote:
Just a dozen?


For starters...

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edit yeh im up for a new stimulator

edit - swearing - smiller29
Edited: 26-11-2016 08:12
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+1

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+1

I h8 wings....

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civilu wrote:
+1 because I want a stable simulator, where tactics actually work as they are supposed to in 95% of the games, where tactic rules don't actually mess up your team's performance, where subs work as they are supposed to, where back passes don't occur, where keepers perform according to their value, where strikers don't pass to keepers, where wings and long balls become again valid options, where passing skill is actually implemented correctly, where corners don't en up 99% in the arms of the keeper, where boosts of all sorts don't count for more than 5%...


Well... you got your wish with the wings part at least..... to be honest, even if I don't think the 2011 was a masterpiece, I believe it was a lot better than the current one. People always complain about the SIM, I complain too because I want better but I don't think the SIM back in 2011 was as random as the SIM is today and I recall games where a lot more fun to watch too...

So if there's no money for a new SIM (and I'm not talking about tweaking this one), then maybe recycling older SIMs could be an option to bring back some fun into the game....

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Btw, found an old video on youtube comparing the "old" 2011 SIM wings play to the "new" 2011 SIM wings play...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lRmi3iuG4k

Now it seems that on the "new" 2011 SIM wings play, the winger didn't just run on the side and crossed the ball in the air, if I go by the comparison, it seems that on the first versions of the current SIM wings worked nicer... by nicer I mean, sometimes the winger would pass the wall on the ground, sometimes he'd take a crack at goal and sometimes he would cross the ball in the air...

Like I said, I think it's worth exploring older versions of the SIM... I'm not sure that since the early version of this SIM, every step taken was on the right direction.

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I like how wings play looks like back in 2011, they seem more flexible when holding the ball and it's fun to watch.

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darkline wrote:
So if there's no money for a new SIM


Are they having difficulties at times?

Maybe I should buy CM after all, I just don't use the features...

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You know edit is real when the best suggestion for making this game better is to change it back to how it was 5 years ago.

edit - swearing - smiller29
Edited: 26-11-2016 08:14
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aemi wrote:
All simulators matter.

What actually is the point of bringing up a dead forum post from 5 years ago? It's more annoying than anything else...

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darkline wrote:
Btw, found an old video on youtube comparing the "old" 2011 SIM wings play to the "new" 2011 SIM wings play...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lRmi3iuG4k

Now it seems that on the "new" 2011 SIM wings play, the winger didn't just run on the side and crossed the ball in the air, if I go by the comparison, it seems that on the first versions of the current SIM wings worked nicer... by nicer I mean, sometimes the winger would pass the wall on the ground, sometimes he'd take a crack at goal and sometimes he would cross the ball in the air...

Like I said, I think it's worth exploring older versions of the SIM... I'm not sure that since the early version of this SIM, every step taken was on the right direction.


The difference being that that sim worked with players who didnt even aerial passing. I played and won 2 U23 National Cups with that tactic with 75% of my squad lacking aerial passing. Also, even more so than this SIM, that tactic couldnt be defended.

No, the '11 Sim was a real trainwreck.

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michael9599 wrote:
What actually is the point of bringing up a dead forum post from 5 years ago? It's more annoying than anything else...


Troll. You didn't think I was serious, did you? I thought the British had a good sense of humor, but it looks like the Aussies are getting ahead of yea... just saying.

Btw, don't take this serious either.

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coconut_wolf_bandit wrote:
You know edit is real when the best suggestion for making this game better is to change it back to how it was 5 years ago.

edit - swearing - smiller29


Gold. :)

#EditIsReal
#LongLiveTheEdit
#IStandWithEdit

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I have sold all my players and only login now occasionally for NT sake. Many of my friends all over MZ have already left. All SIM updates after the first wing domination season for me were mostly Superficial.

The sim does not reflect the players stats or formation better. Even after seeing n trying countless game you can never be sure.(except for wings which is pretty static n boring formation wise)

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chelseax1 wrote:
The sim does not reflect the players stats or formation better. Even after seeing n trying countless game you can never be sure.(except for wings which is pretty static n boring formation wise)


Umm...it does. I don't know why people complain. Wings is a much more realistic tactic than the weird short passing formation that everyone uses. Short passing is as much of an exploit as wings.

Wings does not even dominate anymore since the sim update.

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bestplaymaker2134 wrote:
Wings does not even dominate anymore since the sim update.


That.

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Outplayed by a redcarded team from same division.Fk this BS this sim belongs in the national bananarepublic tombola lottery.WOTAM im done gg take care

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+1

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Set plays not exist. This is dead skill. Absolutely unavailable.

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I'm just to say, dam wings!

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I have been a long time away, and have little desire to get into this much. However the post 2011 sim has been less good as I remember. The whole having to "learn" the sim each time was a pain in the arse.

However my understanding was there was not the resources to build a new sim that resembled football. I was told so in very strong, and non too polite terms. Some of the users I used to know would say, "it is not a football game, it is MZ" and that is probably the easiest coping strategy.
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